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xwordfanatik
xwordfanatik

Crybrows saying "it's scary," and not inviting Garrison and Gabriel for the holidays really bothered me.  I wonder if she has regrets about that now. The toxic couple deserve to feel guilty, IMO.

Joan of Argh
Joan of Argh

Saw this on another site, are we supposed to believe these kids got YOUNGER for Thanksgiving?

AZChristian
AZChristian

Y'all are discounting the probable huge income from My Sisterwives Closet.  Jewelry always sells well. (And then I laughed and I laughed and I laughed.)

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Pickleinthemiddle

Pickleinthemiddle

4 hours ago, Libby said:

3. Kody was an absentee father but she understands him. She said he got thrown into plural marriage before he was sure it's what he wanted.

I think this is exactly what he wanted.  Plus he had about 3 years with it just being him and Meri, he could have changed his mind, which would have sent Meri over the moon.  I think he thought it would be easy.  

I watch the National Geographic series about Centennial Park.  Even in this group of polygamists, they admit that polygamy is hard and it is not for everybody and they know not every member will choose to live plural life.  That you have to be dedicated and committed to it.  But that being said, husbands have to devote equal time to each family if they are not living in one house.  Otherwise it's not going to work.

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Tuxcat

Tuxcat

Gwen did an Ig live too.  

Kody does watch the show and he called her when he saw her say that she thought her parents should have divorced a long time ago. He told her he was hurt by that but that he forgives her. And he hopes she forgives him too. 

She said her dad is "worse" than he is on the show but she thinks he's getting better and healing. (in comments she says she sees him about once a month maybe)

All the kids behaved better when the cameras around (lol)

Gwen watched just the first episode this season but most of the kids don't watch anymore. 

She doesn't like Robyn at all.

She thinks "Meri is a sweetie but she's just really busy now."

She likes Aurora.

Her favorite Brown is Ysabel and Christine.

Christine is doing amazing and loving her life and is the best.

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RedDelicious

RedDelicious

On 11/3/2022 at 1:23 PM, Tuxcat said:

Christine has admitted that she was unhappy even back in Lehi but yes I absolutely believe that Robyn is the catalyst for her deeper misery. Kody was in love with Robyn. It was obvious and clear. He was not in love with the OG-3.  And as time went on he attended to Robyn's every need. He was an attentive and involved father - while Christine, Logan and Aspyn raised the others.

All I can think about is how absolutely crushed Christine was when Kody gleefully announced that he picked out Robyn’s wedding dress, when the sister wives were led to believe it was a bonding activity for the four of them. Then there was the big traditional wedding when Truely was what, a month old, and Kody disappeared on his 10-day honeymoon. Robyn couldn’t even let Kody say goodbye to Meri (who I maintain he boinked the morning of). The writing was on the wall. Janelle was just…there.

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Tuxcat

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On Patreon, Gwen is taking questions for her first reaction video. She's filming a reaction to episode one which will be out soon. I'm not sure if she's planning to do the entire season.

I'm not entirely sure how I feel about this! Can't figure it out. On the one hand, these kids are adults and they should have their voice and make that money if they can!

On the other hand, I hate the thought of children watching their parents emotional separation play out week by week- and then filming their reactions to it - in order to make money.

I'm glad she's making money and finding her way. I just hate that it's from this reality show drama and I can't see that this is psychologically healthy. So conflicted.

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Tuxcat

Tuxcat

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4 minutes ago, xwordfanatik said:

What is Patreon?  COL here.

Its a platform that allows a person (like Gwen) to have subscribers. Monthly subscription fees are based on different tiers of access. Lower fees and you're allowed to look at her posts and comments. Higher fees allow you to message her et cetera. She says she'll be posting Q and A's and videos.

If you google it and search Gwendolyn Brown you can see her levels.

People on reddit have subscribed and are reposting some of the content (which technically they shouldn't do) but that's how I found out about it.

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Elizzikra

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I suspect this is why she’s “filing her cup” with making money and online bragging. That seems to be the one way Meri can feel better about herself. To me, that only makes her look more desperate and alone. 

The bragging may make her look desperate and alone but the money-making is probably absolutely necessary. I think she is the only one of the bunch pulling in any significant income and is maybe the most likely of all the adult Browns to be able to survive financially after the show money is gone.

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Art Of Noiz

Art Of Noiz

On 11/6/2022 at 4:23 PM, Libby said:

The way I see it is, polygamy is not good, no way, no how for anyone involved.

Cristine was a cheerleader for polygamy while at the same time showing us that she had problems with the way that Kody was behaving once Robyn joined the family.

Christine deciding to leave was a slow process over years. I believe that she was honest. It was a slow process out of indoctrination and into freedom.

I'm very happy for her. It took a very long time for her to finally follow her feelings and break free.

I think Christine's tenacity in the Principle was in part because she wanted to please her dad. I can't remember the episode, maybe S15 or 16, she said her dad asked her  something to the effect of when would she get something out of the marriage. I know that's vague paraphrasing. 

I see another part of her journey influenced by her adult relationship with her mom. 

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taragel

taragel

So Gwen has seemingly confirmed (via an IG Live) that Janelle has left Kody too. That's incredible. And means at least two more seasons to get to and cover that, I'm guessing? I don't think Kody will be quite as dramatic about it because Janelle has always been pretty independent, but maybe his control issues will rise up to the occasion and make him throw a new tantrum. 

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CSunshine76

CSunshine76

1 hour ago, taragel said:

So Gwen has seemingly confirmed (via an IG Live) that Janelle has left Kody too. That's incredible. And means at least two more seasons to get to and cover that, I'm guessing? I don't think Kody will be quite as dramatic about it because Janelle has always been pretty independent, but maybe his control issues will rise up to the occasion and make him throw a new tantrum. 

I saw the same clip. I sure hope it’s true!! That leaves Kody and Robyn to figure things out once the show is cancelled (because let’s be real, Meri is a non-factor).

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Kellyee

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I saw the same clip. I sure hope it’s true!! That leaves Kody and Robyn to figure things out once the show is cancelled (because let’s be real, Meri is a non-factor).

They are all in serious trouble once the show ends. The MLM businesses that Meri, Janelle, and Christine depend on for their current lifestyles are dependent on the fan base they get from the show. Maddy and Mykelti are also going the MLM route. They're all screwed once they fade into the background after the show is gone. 

But I suspect the show has at least one more season. I believe they are still filming right now?

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taragel

taragel

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2 hours ago, Kellyee said:

They are all in serious trouble once the show ends. The MLM businesses that Meri, Janelle, and Christine depend on for their current lifestyles are dependent on the fan base they get from the show. Maddy and Mykelti are also going the MLM route. They're all screwed once they fade into the background after the show is gone. 

IDK, MLMs have always existed and, honestly, kind of thrived, as dumb as it may seem to us. The fan base has already been established and if they're hooked on those products (however implausibly) they may continue to buy for years to come. (I mean how are people STILL buying LulaRoe with all the ripped/flamable products, lawsuits, bad press/documentaries? But they are.)

And if it's true that all the adults are only splitting like $40k a season now to film the show--$8K each isn't even as much as you'd make at a part-time job. I think they all have some accumulated wealth at this point, that will probably carry them for a few years. 

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TurtlePower

TurtlePower

11 hours ago, Elizzikra said:

The bragging may make her look desperate and alone but the money-making is probably absolutely necessary. I think she is the only one of the bunch pulling in any significant income and is maybe the most likely of all the adult Browns to be able to survive financially after the show money is gone.

I don’t disagree. She was smart to create a hustle, even if it’s a hustle that takes advantage of gullible people. Purchasing the B&B was smart also.

Meri, unlike Robyn, won’t need to depend on anyone once the show is over. I may not like Meri’s bragging, heavily filtered/photoshopped “catfish” photos and inflated ego, but she was very smart to do what she did. 

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Libby

Libby

I think that after all of Gwen's social media comments, Janelle really needs to make an announcement regarding her and Kody's relationship.

From what Gwen said, it's hard to be sure where Kody and Janelle stand.

While it seems that Gwen is saying they are split, she's a little hard to understand on this point.

Janelle should just clear it up one way or the other.

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TurtlePower

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12 minutes ago, Libby said:

I think that after all of Gwen's social media comments, Janelle really needs to make an announcement regarding her and Kody's relationship.

From what Gwen said, it's hard to be sure where Kody and Janelle stand.

While it seems that Gwen is saying they are split, she's a little hard to understand on this point.

Janelle should just clear it up one way or the other.

Yeah it’s not really clear. I just read an article about Gwen’s comments and how just “Robyn, Meri and Kody are together” now. She “thinks”.

Perhaps Janelle, seeing all the talking heads this season realises that Kody just isn’t worth it anymore. He looks for any excuse to remain at Robyn’s, all while denying that he favours her. The fact that he doesn’t want to stay in the trailer is weird — didn’t he grow up on a ranch? Wouldn’t he be used to field time and “discomfort”? He’s just making ridiculous excuses and they’re easy to see through. Maybe Janelle finally saw it and was like, fuck this. 

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altopower

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Janelle doesn't have to make any announcement about her relationship with Kody until she's ready, for whatever reason. It's likely to be the center of next (hopefully last) season, which they're apparently filming now. I want her to leave but she doesn't owe me or anyone else an announcement, no matter what Gwen is saying about it.

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Roslyn

Roslyn

6 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

Why does Gwyn hate Paedon?

Just watching the show you get the sense that they easily butt heads, and there was one tiny tidbit on camera when some family was traveling to watch Hunter in his wrestling for State Championships. A driveway conversation was trying to figure out what cars were going and what people were going when Gwen decided that she didn't want to go, she wanted to stay home with Aurora....but "all about the family" Robyn put up every possible excuse why she didn't want to be saddled with Gwen. Christine dropped that her mother wouldn't always be around and that Gwen and Paedon could not be left alone together. At the time it just seemed like they were siblings that just picked at each other.

Relatively recently Paedon (when he was really milking the audience on TickTock) admitted that Gwen was frightened of him and wouldn't be around him ever. When he was a large man sized (he is 6'6" tall-2meters) 16 year old he "slapped" Gwen and now she is afraid of him. He is kinda taking responsibility for it, but when I watched his confession video I was not impressed. He came off as many adult bullies do that he didn't feel it was that big of a deal to be held accountable by Gwen this many years later.  However, yes, he admits that his bullying was from not having his needs met as a child, but if his victim does not want a relationship of any kind, that is their decision. I suspect WAY more than "just a slap" from a 16 year old to a 13 year old was all that happened for Christine to never allow them near each other and for Gwen to now refuse to say his name and to openly wish him harm.

In more recent history Paedon has stated on social media that "bi sexual" doesn't exist and he is very clear with his political thoughts and feelings. Gwen stated her bi sexuality on her social media several years ago and on camera just recently.

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RedDelicious

RedDelicious

37 minutes ago, Absolom said:

Picture of Robyn from an article about Gwen's comments:

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https://www.theashleysrealityroundup.com/2022/11/08/gwendlyn-brown-spills-sister-wives-tea-says-she-dislikes-robyn-seemingly-confirms-janelle-has-left-kody-says-kody-is-nicer-on-the-show-than-in-real-life/

She looks like a Disney World animatron from that time Pirates of the Caribbean shorted out. 

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BAForever

BAForever

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I think it's a blast wondering and hoping if Janelle has left the building,  er, um Kody. More fun for us to speculate and hunt for clues. 

Sad that Gwen and Paeden are not, at least, civil to each other. I'm 80% sure he joined the Morman Church (he was wearing a shirt with a cross on it in a recent picture). If he is religious and conservative, he may so disapprove of Gwen's bi-sexuality that he feels he cannot have any relationship with her. And she may feel his intolerance is a deal-breaker.

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Teafortwo

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On 11/8/2022 at 12:49 AM, the-grey-lady said:

Straight shooter Gwen apparently has a Patreon, and a few leaks have come out.

She hates Robyn.

Also this gem about her father is...something.

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Omg, just what I've been waiting for!!! I joined at $5/month immediately. She's working on editing a commentary video about Season 17, episode! I always hoped Gwen would do a Tell - All. Here it is! It looks like she created it 2 days ago and has almost 500 comments on her "Welcome" post alone. She's gonna have trouble keeping up with her schoolwork lol.

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Elizzikra

Elizzikra

3 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:

So, if they lose the show, Kody’s income is just from the gun sales, right? I’ve read that might be limited, according to online a average ranges.  I would image that is rather concerning for him and Robyn, since they are seven people in the house, right? 

I believe he also does Cameos though I don't know how much he actually makes from those. I don't think there are any other revenue streams of which we are aware. Maybe he will become a traveling wedding minister?

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altopower

altopower

Oh good grief. Of course Robyn is crying. And of course Meri says she feels distain from Christine. I'm so proud of Christine for her calm composure and stating what she wants and doesn't want. It's about damned time. Robyn wants a relationship with Christine after she moves. Really? I didn't see a whole lot of interest in having one while she was THERE.

This show is really crazy-making.

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toodywoody

toodywoody

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18 minutes ago, Libby said:

Christine tells Robyn flat out that Janelle is the only adult she wants to deal with once she leaves. I love this sneak peek. Good for Christine!

Like either one of them tried. Like Meri was too busy being a bitch and so was Robyn. And now they both care about their relationship with Christine? Bullshit. And where was all this worry during Covid or pre Covid? Those two have found away to make it all about themselves because they always have looked out for themselves and their kids. Those two should have worked on shit with their sister wife long before now. Quit acting like they are so devastated by this. Neither one of them are ever around Christine and her kids. So stfu and quit making it all about yourself. They both got what they wanted and now are like oh wait, oh shit....

They all did their own damage to Christine over the years and now they want to play like they were this happy family. Why would anyone want to be around people that damaged  you? Go get fucked.

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mythoughtis

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Robyn has been divorced.  Did she continue continue relationships with her ex-husbands family?  No she did not.  In addition she severed the legal ties her children had with them by having Kody adopt them. 
So why is she thinking that Christine should develop a separate relationship with her? Christine is not legally a mother or a step-mother to any of the five of Robyn's children.   If she feels close to the 5 children, and they with her, then yes, she could try to see them- but she has no legal right to.   Given Kody’s absolute hatred of Christine right now, he isn’t going to allow Christine to see them anyway. 
Meri says she felt Christine has disdain for her.  And just exactly how did Meri treat Christine?   Her children weren’t allowed to use Meri’s apartment as a gateway to Janelle’s in  Utah.  They had to go outside - otherwise known as the servant’s entrance. 

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Joan of Argh

Joan of Argh

11 minutes ago, mythoughtis said:

Robyn has been divorced.  Did she continue continue relationships with her ex-husbands family?  No she did not.  In addition she severed the legal ties her children had with them by having Kody adopt them. 
So why is she thinking that Christine should develop a separate relationship with her? Christine is not legally a mother or a step-mother to any of the five of Robyn's children.   If she feels close to the 5 children, and they with her, then yes, she could try to see them- but she has no legal right to.   Given Kody’s absolute hatred of Christine right now, he isn’t going to allow Christine to see them anyway. 
Meri says she felt Christine has disdain for her.  And just exactly how did Meri treat Christine?   Her children weren’t allowed to use Meri’s apartment as a gateway to Janelle’s in  Utah.  They had to go outside - otherwise known as the servant’s entrance. 

Exactly plus when Christine went to Meri in Vegas to ask for help with her relationship with Kody…. Meri just sat on her bed like Jabba the Hut and looked down her nose at Christine and basically said it was all Christine’s fault and that she need to be nicer and sweeter to Kody 🙄

All the while Meri had her marriage certificate proudly nailed to the wall by her bed for Christine to see and feel even worse.

Then fast forward a few years, Kody has kicked Meri’s old ass to the curb because of the catfish and Meri finally admitted that she wasn’t very nice or helpful to Christine when she came to her for help but she wants Christine to help her now that her relationship to Kody is in the toilet.     

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Tuxcat

Tuxcat

I get why people think this is gaslighting. But I really think we all should zoom out.

Christine did have disdain for Meri.  Meri's behavior warranted her disdain. Those two have not been friends for a very long time -  and they were locked in daily combat. A 25 year power struggle for Kody's attention isn't the greatest when you are trying to be "friends." I have no idea why people expect Meri to start loving and supporting Christine all of sudden now. They have not loved and supported each other for decades. 

And Christine was jealous of Robyn/Kody's relationship which she fully admits.

So these statements by Meri are true. Even if those feelings of disdain and non-acceptance were completely understandable on the part of Christine. The power struggle was real.

That doesn't make Christine a bad person at all. It makes polygamy an awful institution. Look at what it has done to these women. 

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altopower

altopower

6 minutes ago, Tuxcat said:

I have no idea why people expect Meri to start loving and supporting Christine all of sudden now. They have not loved and supported each other for decades. 

Oh, I never expected Meri to start loving and supporting Christine. They were rivals for the same deeply flawed man-child. Same with Robyn.  Things changed when Robyn came, and when the TV show started (which was basically the same time). But they were never good. And as Robyn grabbed more and more of Kody's time, the others were squabbling for smaller and smaller shares of it, making their rivalry even more charged. I'm just surprised that Robyn thinks they're all some really great family when any observer would know they're not.

3 hours ago, Elizzikra said:

I don't think there are any other revenue streams of which we are aware. Maybe he will become a traveling wedding minister?

Oh that would be fun! But only if he gets to dance after the ceremony. Maybe he can set up a website to advertise his availability. Well, not Kody HIMSELF setting it up. I doubt he'd have a clue how to do it.

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drinavictoria

drinavictoria

20 hours ago, BAForever said:

I get the kids mixed up. It might have been Garrison I saw.

Yeah someone asked Paedon on TT ages ago if he is still Mormon and he said no.

As to Gwen's disdain for him, it's probably based on a number of things. The "slap," his politics, his hateful rhetoric... When you have that many siblings there's bound to be a jackass or two in the group.

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