S12.E17: The Girl with the Diamond Earrings

[hoodooznoodooz]

At the end, we hear Erika saying sarcastically, I’m praying your s- - -doesn’t end up like mine. 

Also, Rinna’s trying to wrangle her away from the camera and boom, but she’s hollering about dumb b- - - -es. Kyle and Dorit are the ones who just challenged her. 

[mytmo]

I wouldn't mind seeing what Kathy has in storage including someone that would tell the value and history of the items. 

[SemiCharmedLife]

10 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

When AC asked Jenny McCarthy on WWHL her opinion of Diana, she came right and said that she likes Diana’s money and would ingratiate herself with her for that.

Not unlike many of these cast members!

[RealHousewife]

I also think Jenny was trying to be kind by not saying she doesn't care for her. 

[Maximona]

On 9/8/2022 at 1:29 PM, Lassus said:

As horrifying as it is now, at the time I have to say that Erika's reaction was actually kind of on point and what any decent lawyer would have told her to say.  So.  I mean, she's gross as shit ("I ONLY CARE ABOUT MYSELF") and it ends up she of course DIDN'T follow the court; but for this episode she really wasn't actually wrong on the specific earring point.

I agree.

From a legal standpoint, she would be sabotaging herself.

That doesn't mean that she's not the second-most disgusting person on the planet, of course.  (The first-most disgusting person on the planet is Diana.). She didn't have to go off into a wild rant—I ONLY CARE ABOUT MYSELF!  She only had to pretend that she'd actually asked her lawyers, Gee, can I sell the earrings and donate the $$$ to the victims? and that they told her, No.  That's all she needed to say to her sister House 'hos.

[RealHousewife]

49 minutes ago, Maximona said:

I agree.

From a legal standpoint, she would be sabotaging herself.

That doesn't mean that she's not the second-most disgusting person on the planet, of course.  (The first-most disgusting person on the planet is Diana.). She didn't have to go off into a wild rant—I ONLY CARE ABOUT MYSELF!  She only had to pretend that she'd actually asked her lawyers, Gee, can I sell the earrings and donate the $$$ to the victims? and that they told her, No.  That's all she needed to say to her sister House 'hos.

I was really hoping "the only person I care about is me" was edited from "you guys want it to look like the only person I care about is me." I shouldn't be surprised, I know. 

[ww92]

Kyle telling Erika to stop saying that she didn't care about the victims and that she couldn't defend that has been bugging me. It finally hit me why.

People are assuming (and Kyle is spinning it) that she was aghast that Erika didn't care about the victims and that Kyle couldn't support her in that opinion. But listen to the words Kyle says and how she says them. She keeps saying "stop saying that", "don't say that", "I can't defend that". You can see the panic in Kyle's face. You can see how fast Rinna and Dorit try to shove Erika out the door. They all know that the viewers will be irate with Erika and that there won't be a way for them to defend her as they've all agreed to do. If they were legitimately aghast with what Erika said, they would have responded with something more along the lines of "How could you say that you don't care about the victims?" in an effort to get her to explain. They wouldn't just be all "Erika STFU before you dig a grave so deep we can't get you out."

[Ms Blue Jay]

Do the show/producers force those women to defend Erika? 

It was 100% obvious that Rinna was trying to shove Erika out the door, and it was ONLY to help Erika.

Edited September 10, 2022 by Ms Blue Jay

[Pixilicious]

On 9/8/2022 at 1:37 PM, Cosmocrush said:

But she hasn't lost everything - she's in Aspen in a luxurious home with a private chef where she arrived via private plane for crying out loud. She has "job" on television paying more than most people's real jobs.   And when she goes back it's to an address in Beverly Hills  where she still has assistants and assorted paid friends.  

Erika thinks because she lost her extravagant lifestyle (that she LOVED to brag about) she's somehow in a women's shelter.   In fact, I think visiting a battered women's shelter would do this narcissist a world of good.  

3 minutes ago, Pixilicious said:

On 9/8/2022 at 1:37 PM, Cosmocrush said:

But she hasn't lost everything - she's in Aspen in a luxurious home with a private chef where she arrived via private plane for crying out loud. She has "job" on television paying more than most people's real jobs.   And when she goes back it's to an address in Beverly Hills  where she still has assistants and assorted paid friends.  

Erika thinks because she lost her extravagant lifestyle (that she LOVED to brag about) she's somehow in a women's shelter.   In fact, I think visiting a battered women's shelter would do this narcissist a world of good.  

[Pixilicious]

A normal person with a conscience could be influenced by time spent with real homeless women...however, Erica is a true narcissist and i honestly don't think it would have any effect on her...sad to say, but she'll never have compassion for what others go through...but if a camera were on her and there was a check in it for her, i bet she'd try to fake emotion and briefly act it out...even a moron would see through the act, though

Speaking of morons, i sure messed up quoting cosmocrush...i apologize 😂

Edited September 10, 2022 by Pixilicious
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[Shannah Banana]

3 hours ago, ww92 said:

People are assuming (and Kyle is spinning it) that she was aghast that Erika didn't care about the victims and that Kyle couldn't support her in that opinion. But listen to the words Kyle says and how she says them. She keeps saying "stop saying that", "don't say that", "I can't defend that". You can see the panic in Kyle's face. You can see how fast Rinna and Dorit try to shove Erika out the door. They all know that the viewers will be irate with Erika and that there won't be a way for them to defend her as they've all agreed to do. If they were legitimately aghast with what Erika said, they would have responded with something more along the lines of "How could you say that you don't care about the victims?" in an effort to get her to explain. They wouldn't just be all "Erika STFU before you dig a grave so deep we can't get you out."

Ding, ding, ding...I think you hit the nail on the head.  I guess they aren't called the Coven for nothing.  Dang, what did they do, take some kind of blood oath? This tolerance of Erika's delusions is making them look like idiots too...which they are.  Lay down with dogs, get up with Erika.

[Ms Blue Jay]

41 minutes ago, Shannah Banana said:

Ding, ding, ding...I think you hit the nail on the head.  I guess they aren't called the Coven for nothing.  Dang, what did they do, take some kind of blood oath? This tolerance of Erika's delusions is making them look like idiots too...which they are.  Lay down with dogs, get up with Erika.

[Talented Tenth]

On 9/8/2022 at 7:23 AM, Slakkie said:

I used to ride horses with one of the Rothchilds.  One day she wanted a drink but had no change so I gave her a quarter (it was eons ago) and when her parents came to pick her up she told her Dad to reimburse me - he handed me a $100 bill.  She was mortified.

They drove a nice but older car, dressed nice but not showy and had more money than God, Moses and Mohammad.  You never would have known it because when you are THAT rich you do not have to be showy - they were lovely people.

Kyle - that is not you.

Just curious, why was she mortified?

[65mickey]

When they got back from the snowmobile ride and skiing Erika agreed that it was an enjoyable time and that she and Sutton had "peace" the look on Kyle's face was not happy. The last thing that she wants is to lose a member of the coven. She wants the pile on of Sutton to contnue and she does not want Sutton to have fun lest she decide to stay on RHBH. It is so obvious what she is up to. I feel like her treatment of Kathy is also her way of driving Kathy off the show. I am sure that when Kathy came on Beverly Hills housewives Kyle thought that she had another ally to go up against Garcelle and Sutton. But Kathy didn't play that game so she has to go as she is not useful for Kyle's plan. 

Edited September 10, 2022 by 65mickey

[Slakkie]

3 hours ago, Talented Tenth said:

Just curious, why was she mortified?

Because her parents had no idea you cannot reimbursed a quarter with a $100 bill - they literally had no concept what was acceptable.  To be fair when her horse went lame they bought the HORSE its own farm so there is that - they were really nice people but so rich money was not even understood.

[Jel]

2 hours ago, Slakkie said:

Because her parents had no idea you cannot reimbursed a quarter with a $100 bill - they literally had no concept what was acceptable.  To be fair when her horse went lame they bought the HORSE its own farm so there is that - they were really nice people but so rich money was not even understood.

This is a great story, Slakkie! They sound like Lovie and Thurston Howell III. 

[Wollstonecraft]

Erika is such a bitch.  I have no sympathy for this vain selfish woman. She knows she has to depend on Bravo as she has no other talent and she's too long in the tooth for a sugar daddy.  

Edited September 10, 2022 by Wollstonecraft

[hoodooznoodooz]

1 hour ago, Wollstonecraft said:

Erika is such a bitch.  I have no sympathy for this vain selfish woman. She knows she has to depend on Bravo as she has no other talent and she's too long in the tooth for a sugar daddy.  

I am seething.

She is absolutely disgusting, insisting to the housewives that they are still investigating to learn whether or not there were trauma victims who actually did not receive settlement money.
Throwing a tantrum because people are critical about how she feels about the fraud. 
They are shocked and critical because she has zero compassion. Tom pulled the rug out from under her. 

That’s the only thing she’s angry about.

[ladle]

On 9/7/2022 at 8:33 PM, njbchlover said:

Me, too....I can't stand Erika, but somehow, when she's calm and collected, she's almost palatable.  

Why, though, is she very nice to Sutton when it's just the two of them, or when she's in a small group, but she turns into a nasty bitch when she has the back  up of Rinna, Diana and Kyle?

It's not just Erika though. Kyle, Rinna ... they're all like this with Sutton! 

[ladle]

On 9/7/2022 at 8:37 PM, RoseAllDay said:

I think Garcelle is right. They all need to get past the bullshit. 

BUT…bringing up the (soon to be auctioned) earrings at the dinner isn’t exactly a good idea. Garcelle should know where this will go.

Yeah, as much as I love Garcelle, she isn't exactly an innocent babe in the woods here. She plays the game too. I do think that with Garcelle, though, it comes less from a malicious place of "I want to take this person down" and more from a place of "I can't stay silent about how I feel here." But Garcelle has definitely shit-stirred in the past.

I'm actually surprised that Erika was as calm as she was when Garcelle brought up the issue at dinner! Of course we know what happened later...

[ladle]

On 9/7/2022 at 8:41 PM, eleanorofaquitaine said:

I think that Erika is saying that if she volunteered giving up the earrings, then it would be tantamount to admitting that she's guilty, which I guess I can understand, but since she's evinced no sympathy for the people her husband swindled, I am not into giving her the benefit of the doubt.

I'm just dumbfounded by how she's handling this all. Kyle sucks but she's also 100% right that there was a way to do this where you show sympathy for the victims and agree that they need to be made whole, and also say "but please be patient while the legal process plays out." And also, like, not fucking flaunting your wealth at every turn. Who is giving Erika PR advice? Mikey?? There was a way for her to come out of this where she didn't look like a complete asshole! She clearly has no intention of choosing that way. It's fascinating. 

[ladle]

On 9/7/2022 at 8:53 PM, Surrealist said:

Has anyone created a gif of Erika snearing "Cite them!" at Crystal. 

I'm going to add that to my repertoire. CITE THEM.

Can somebody pretty please do this?? I'm a college professor and this would be a great add to my syllabi. 

[Castina]

So there is a new 6 min video up on Bravo website.  Long story short when Erika is shuffled out following her outburst she went straight back to Kyles house, packed up her stuff with the help of at least Dorit and moved into the hotel with Diana and Dorit. 

This is relayed by Kyle (who left the house earlier that morning with Kathy and Rinna and her dog) to meet up with the other ladies (Garcelle, Sutton and Crystal) at a coffee shop.  Rinna is up at the counter ordering a coffee when Kyle is filling the others in and when she returns and Kyle asks if she heard from Erika and Rinna stumbles a bit with her words and says she just texted her and asked if she was okay, Erika answered just "no" and Rinna says that's all I know and changes the subject to ask where Kathy wandered off to.  Kathy left the house with them but didn't enter the coffee shop with them.  

The clip then flips to the hotel three (Diana, Dorit and Erika) in a "chic" ski ware brand store (Dorit's words ;) ).  This appears to be the store where we have seen in the mid season trailer where Kathy shows up, tries to open the door and one of those three say not to open it.  So I am thinking maybe Kathy wandered off to this place on the way to the coffee shop for whatever reason.  

The coffee shop crowd appear to be in the same outfits we saw a preview of for tequila 818 gate which might be a hat store that Kyle had pre-booked for them all to have a private showing and hat measuring before they arrived (clip shown of her telling them all about it at the disco party).   In the shop Dorit mentions this to the other two and Erika has no plans to go and also mentions she would rather fly home commercial the next day than be on a private plane with them. 

My take is Erika is pissed at Kyle, Kyle is mad/upset she left at night without talking to her and Rinna is not going to engage with Kyle and that group discussing the previous night.  Lines are being drawn and one can see how Diana, Erika and Rinna became a threesome and Dorit is riding the middle (which is alluded to in the two t's podcast by teddi, who I loathe lol but have listened to recently as I find she gives things away).  

So if this is the moment that the FFF starts to fall apart I can see why Rinna and Erika go after Kathy (as they will feel Kyle betrayed them so they will feel no loyalty to her).  

Going to be interesting to see when the so called slur occurs and who hears it as Erika is no longer staying in the same house as Kathy which brings us back to the original rumours it was said at a bar or something. 

[ladle]

On 9/7/2022 at 9:02 PM, Stats Queen said:

I’m about 25 minutes behind, but why is Mauricio at all the events on a girls vacation. It’s just creepy. My husband would run far, far away

Yes! Thank you! I feel like his presence must have been explained at some point?? At least he's not all up in the women's business like the men on RHONJ. 

On 9/7/2022 at 9:05 PM, RoseAllDay said:

Damn, Erika I didn’t work at Girardi Keese either, but I feel for the victims. It’s not zero-sum. It’s called not being a reptile. 

Diana: "You rang?"

On 9/7/2022 at 9:20 PM, Melonie77 said:

Kyle has always treated both her sisters badly on this show since the beginning of the series.

I don't disagree, but they treat her pretty poorly too. That whole sibling dynamic is pretty warped.

[Castina]

29 minutes ago, ladle said:

Yeah, as much as I love Garcelle, she isn't exactly an innocent babe in the woods here. She plays the game too. I do think that with Garcelle, though, it comes less from a malicious place of "I want to take this person down" and more from a place of "I can't stay silent about how I feel here." But Garcelle has definitely shit-stirred in the past.

I'm actually surprised that Erika was as calm as she was when Garcelle brought up the issue at dinner! Of course we know what happened later...

I think the reality is they all play the same game.  Sutton mentioned previously that she first spoke to production when the LA Times article came out and was "encouraged" to bring the ladies together and discuss it as a group.  I would think Garcelle and Crystal were nudged to bring up the earrings more than the once.  

Production wants story lines, they want to know what the women have going on in their lives etc... They are brought together to discuss these things for the cameras. 

For me the difference seems to lie in what or how they make a storyline.  And it just comes across that the FFF, in an effort to avoid any chance of focusing on real drama in their own lives, harp on petty or malicious stuff. Erika's life is in the press, it's fair game and reasonable to talk about it.  But bringing Brandi on to get her to say something on camera (pre-mediated) so you can spend the season focusing on a potential affair is just bullshit.  

[hoodooznoodooz]

17 minutes ago, Castina said:

So there is a new 6 min video up on Bravo website.  Long story short when Erika is shuffled out following her outburst she went straight back to Kyles house, packed up her stuff with the help of at least Dorit and moved into the hotel with Diana and Dorit. 

This is relayed by Kyle (who left the house earlier that morning with Kathy and Rinna and her dog) to meet up with the other ladies (Garcelle, Sutton and Crystal) at a coffee shop.  Rinna is up at the counter ordering a coffee when Kyle is filling the others in and when she returns and Kyle asks if she heard from Erika and Rinna stumbles a bit with her words and says she just texted her and asked if she was okay, Erika answered just "no" and Rinna says that's all I know and changes the subject to ask where Kathy wandered off to.  Kathy left the house with them but didn't enter the coffee shop with them.  

The clip then flips to the hotel three (Diana, Dorit and Erika) in a "chic" ski ware brand store (Dorit's words ;) ).  This appears to be the store where we have seen in the mid season trailer where Kathy shows up, tries to open the door and one of those three say not to open it.  So I am thinking maybe Kathy wandered off to this place on the way to the coffee shop for whatever reason.  

The coffee shop crowd appear to be in the same outfits we saw a preview of for tequila 818 gate which might be a hat store that Kyle had pre-booked for them all to have a private showing and hat measuring before they arrived (clip shown of her telling them all about it at the disco party).   In the shop Dorit mentions this to the other two and Erika has no plans to go and also mentions she would rather fly home commercial the next day than be on a private plane with them. 

My take is Erika is pissed at Kyle, Kyle is mad/upset she left at night without talking to her and Rinna is not going to engage with Kyle and that group discussing the previous night.  Lines are being drawn and one can see how Diana, Erika and Rinna became a threesome and Dorit is riding the middle (which is alluded to in the two t's podcast by teddi, who I loathe lol but have listened to recently as I find she gives things away).  

So if this is the moment that the FFF starts to fall apart I can see why Rinna and Erika go after Kathy (as they will feel Kyle betrayed them so they will feel no loyalty to her).  

Going to be interesting to see when the so called slur occurs and who hears it as Erika is no longer staying in the same house as Kathy which brings us back to the original rumours it was said at a bar or something. 

Thank you for this! I can’t seem to locate the clip? Could you please offer guidance?

[Castina]

3 minutes ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Thank you for this! I can’t seem to locate the clip? Could you please offer guidance?

https://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/season-12/videos/erika-jayne-packed-her-things-and-left-kyle

[tranquilidade]

46 minutes ago, ladle said:

Yeah, as much as I love Garcelle, she isn't exactly an innocent babe in the woods here. She plays the game too. I do think that with Garcelle, though, it comes less from a malicious place of "I want to take this person down" and more from a place of "I can't stay silent about how I feel here." But Garcelle has definitely shit-stirred in the past.

I'm actually surprised that Erika was as calm as she was when Garcelle brought up the issue at dinner! Of course we know what happened later...

I'm not a fan of Erika by any means but the earing thing isn't what bothers me,  If she is told to give them back she will and she said that but lawyers always appeal because they don't like to lose and if she has any chance of having some money she is in a position to try to get it right now.  In addition, you can't just hand them over to victims.  Which victim gets it and how much?  It's not that simple.  That being said, Erika's real problem lies with the fact that she bragged about gluttonous consumption and spending for years and now that we find out it was on the backs of people who suffered she seems to think it doesn't matter.  She was telling the truth when she said she only cares about herself and that is exactly why she is in this situation.  She has an ugly inner self and I'm sure she is miserable.  To say she is the wife left in shambles or however she said it is a revealing statement. This is what you get when you enter a fake marriage.  She was only a wife on paper. 

[ladle]

39 minutes ago, tranquilidade said:

I'm not a fan of Erika by any means but the earing thing isn't what bothers me,  If she is told to give them back she will and she said that but lawyers always appeal because they don't like to lose and if she has any chance of having some money she is in a position to try to get it right now.  In addition, you can't just hand them over to victims.  Which victim gets it and how much?  It's not that simple.  That being said, Erika's real problem lies with the fact that she bragged about gluttonous consumption and spending for years and now that we find out it was on the backs of people who suffered she seems to think it doesn't matter.  She was telling the truth when she said she only cares about herself and that is exactly why she is in this situation.  She has an ugly inner self and I'm sure she is miserable.  To say she is the wife left in shambles or however she said it is a revealing statement. This is what you get when you enter a fake marriage.  She was only a wife on paper. 

I'm not 100% sure how this relates to the quote from me but -- yes, I agree with all of this! I think it's easy to say "Just give it all back!" but it doesn't really seem like there's any straightforward way to figure out what goes back, and to whom, without going through the legal process. So the fact that she's not just, like, throwing the earrings at the nearest plaintiff is, whatever. It's every other aspect of how she's handling this situation that makes her so reprehensible. 

[Cosmocrush]

2 hours ago, ladle said:

Yes! Thank you! I feel like his presence must have been explained at some point?? At least he's not all up in the women's business like the men on RHONJ. 

On the show, there was a scene pre-trip where Mo told Kyle he was going because there was no way he was going to miss out on the great skiing at that time.  On WWHL Kyle confirmed this and the fact that he arranged and paid for the plane so...

Anyway, it's not like he goes on every trip with Kyle or really any trip.

Edited September 11, 2022 by Cosmocrush

[albarino]

3 hours ago, Castina said:

My take is Erika is pissed at Kyle, Kyle is mad/upset she left at night without talking to her and Rinna is not going to engage with Kyle and that group discussing the previous night.  Lines are being drawn and one can see how Diana, Erika and Rinna became a threesome and Dorit is riding the middle (which is alluded to in the two t's podcast by teddi, who I loathe lol but have listened to recently as I find she gives things away).  

Interesting.  Didn't Erika and Rinna also fall out at some point in time?  I seem to remember this and wonder if it was due to the whole Erika bailing on Kyle without Rinna knowing about it.

Along with all of you, I am so surprised Erika has played her hand so poorly.  She had months to think about her approach when the show was on hiatus.  Couldn't she at least say something like:

             "We know there were victims--these people were represented by Tom who won lawsuits on their behalf.  With Tom's loss of mental functioning, we all learned there were irreguarlities in some of the firm's accounts and we have all been terribly affected.  While I can't discuss the specifics but thankfully, with some forensic accounting and oversight by the courts, we can all come to an end to this mess Tom left us.  Hopefully we will all be made whole."  

Our something like that.  NOT, all I care about is ME.  

[hoodooznoodooz]

3 hours ago, Castina said:

https://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/season-12/videos/erika-jayne-packed-her-things-and-left-kyle

Thank you so much!

(Dorit thinks that skiwear shop is as chic as a Thermos.)

[Cheyanne11]

Erika making herself the victim in that preview--lord, save me from this vicious piece of work.

[hoodooznoodooz]

I really wish we had a transcript of Kyle, Rinna, Erika and Dorit when they first discussed forming this alliance. 
 

Rinna is the only one who has never wavered. It does make me wonder what Erika would reveal about Rinna. 

Edited September 12, 2022 by hoodooznoodooz

[Cosmocrush]

1 hour ago, albarino said:

Or something like that.  NOT, all I care about is ME.  

Not only that but she told Kyle and company all THEY should care about is her because she was in front of them and they didn't even know the victims.  😬

[hoodooznoodooz]

“I’m getting my a- - kicked daily.”

That’s her reason for having no sympathy.

But that’s WHY everyone is criticizing her!

[hoodooznoodooz]

WWCL:

They joke that when Dorit FaceTimes Jaggar and says, “Jaggy! You won’t believe what Mommy did today!”

Jaggar asks, “Did you wear clothing with no designer names on them?”

[Pattycake2]

5 hours ago, ladle said:

I'm not 100% sure how this relates to the quote from me but -- yes, I agree with all of this! I think it's easy to say "Just give it all back!" but it doesn't really seem like there's any straightforward way to figure out what goes back, and to whom, without going through the legal process. So the fact that she's not just, like, throwing the earrings at the nearest plaintiff is, whatever. It's every other aspect of how she's handling this situation that makes her so reprehensible. 

The court ordered that Erika turn over the earrings and the court ordered that the house, belongings, etc, be sold.  All assets collected are held by the court which will also create a plan for the division of all assets collected to the plaintiffs and their lawyers.  So Erika only has responsibility for surrendering items and assets she received which deemed by the court were purchased or received from victim settlement funds.  She is not involved in their distribution.  She should have turned over the earrings.  

[Melonie77]

Does anyone know how many more episodes will be centered on the Aspen trip? I know there is much more drama to unfold so I'm wondering how long they will drag this out. I'm getting impatient and want the whole story!

[Hiyo]

Quote

In addition, you can't just hand them over to victims.  Which victim gets it and how much?

I don't think anything is being handed over directly to the victims themselves...

[hoodooznoodooz]

“Those are f- - -ing facts.”

I think that’s the first time Crystal used the F word on this show.

[hoodooznoodooz]

I guess they can’t create fake accounts on Reddit? Everyone hates Erika, Rinna, Diana and Kyle there, too! 

[ladle]

7 hours ago, Pattycake2 said:

The court ordered that Erika turn over the earrings and the court ordered that the house, belongings, etc, be sold.  All assets collected are held by the court which will also create a plan for the division of all assets collected to the plaintiffs and their lawyers.  So Erika only has responsibility for surrendering items and assets she received which deemed by the court were purchased or received from victim settlement funds.  She is not involved in their distribution.  She should have turned over the earrings.  

Right, but-- and I could be wrong??-- I think this is a real-time development that happened after that scene was shot. 

[Slakkie]

2 hours ago, ladle said:

Right, but-- and I could be wrong??-- I think this is a real-time development that happened after that scene was shot. 

When this was shot Erika had told the court the earrings were with a third party - they saw her WEARING THEM in some shots on IG and thats what started the shitstorm - SHE was her own third party. 

[Baltimore Betty]

I was in Las Vegas the past few days, (Hubs won a trip from the MD State Lottery, long story but we did not win the grand prize but a guy in a wheel chair won, I am guessing it will cover more than a few medical bills for him, sad story there but I digress), I made a point to go to Vanderpump at Caesars, there was one at our hotel too, (Paris), sadly I could not get in, there was a line and the bar was full so no Oliver sighting to share with you all.  

In regards to Erika's earrings, whether or not the court tells her to relinquish the earrings and whether or not it would look like admitting guilt to simply hand them over I cannot imagine wanting to wear them, the stigma attached to those earrings would make it unenjoyable to wear, why hold on to them, why is that the hill she wants to die on?  

If this was happening to Kandi Burrus not EJ, Kandi would have marketed fake look-a-like earrings and made bank off them, lol. 

[Baltimore Betty]

16 hours ago, Castina said:

https://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/season-12/videos/erika-jayne-packed-her-things-and-left-kyle

I don't buy it, the likelyhood of Erika knowing how to pack her own suitcase is pretty low, lol.

With all her refusing to hand over jewelry and other items and her wanting to be the victim she is giving me Marie Antoinette vibes big time.  Is she staving off the eneviable, I think so.

Everytime she snarls and shows her canines I feel like she is giving a shout out to her dentist.

[eleanorofaquitaine]

20 hours ago, ladle said:

I'm just dumbfounded by how she's handling this all. Kyle sucks but she's also 100% right that there was a way to do this where you show sympathy for the victims and agree that they need to be made whole, and also say "but please be patient while the legal process plays out." And also, like, not fucking flaunting your wealth at every turn. Who is giving Erika PR advice? Mikey?? There was a way for her to come out of this where she didn't look like a complete asshole! She clearly has no intention of choosing that way. It's fascinating. 

Please keep in mind that people can give someone PR advice but that doesn't mean the person takes it. Erika is responsible for her own actions; it's not because she's getting bad PR advice, it is because she isn't a particularly good person. 

[Slakkie]

On 9/8/2022 at 11:03 AM, RoseAllDay said:

Not as yet AFAIK, but she may not have much choice.

https://realityblurb.com/2022/07/19/is-erika-jayne-considering-bankruptcy-rhobh-stars-finances-reportedly-in-dire-state-as-source-shares-if-she-planned-to-sell-750k-earrings/

After last night, she should be radioactive in terms of publicity, gigs, promotional offers, etc.

If you believe Ronald Richards - the reason she cannot file bankruptcy is then she has to tell people who is paying her legal bills. 

[ladle]

4 hours ago, Slakkie said:

When this was shot Erika had told the court the earrings were with a third party - they saw her WEARING THEM in some shots on IG and thats what started the shitstorm - SHE was her own third party. 

Oh shit! That is some tea. 

1 hour ago, eleanorofaquitaine said:

Please keep in mind that people can give someone PR advice but that doesn't mean the person takes it. Erika is responsible for her own actions; it's not because she's getting bad PR advice, it is because she isn't a particularly good person. 

Good point! I will say, though, that while these are all pretty awful people (Garcelle exempted, maybe?), I feel like anyone else in the cast would be much, much savvier in how they handled this. So the big surprise, to me, is not that she's so awful but that she's letting her Awful Flag Fly so brazenly. If that makes any sense.

[ladle]

I'm loathe to even mention this because we have far bigger fish to fry here, and in general as much as I don't like Dorit she seems like a great mom and her kids seem lovely... but why does she talk to her children like they are three years old?? Her son is 8, right? If I talked to my 8-year-old in that wittle baby voice she'd tell me I'm embarrassing and ask me to stop!