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S12.E06: High Cries and Misty Demeanors


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5 hours ago, UsernameFatigue said:

Like others I was impressed that Kyle and Crystal did not have glam squads.

Crystal seems good with money.  Kyle was a hands on mom to four kids and they didn't always have the kind of money they have now; she knows her way around an iron and a kitchen and although she should probably spring for a stylist once in a while I thought her dinner look was beautiful - as good or better than the women who paid to bring their glam squads.  

As far a Rinna goes, I agree she makes everything look cheap.  I don't think she did her own glam though - there was a reason she was hanging out in Erika's room in her bathrobe. 

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The thing about the "glam" that I think makes them look stupid is that they're on an almost local girls trip which involves beach, shops and hotel dinners.  It's like me taking a glam squad to Ocean City or Myrtle Beach!  

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14 hours ago, Mother of Odin said:

Wasn't she Teddi's friend?

I've seen her wearing the art deco ring since.

She was wearing this ring at her trip (she always wears this ring), so it was not stolen.

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13 hours ago, nichelle said:

I was curious and went to her Instagram account and can't find this share. I don't use Instagram much so maybe I am just missing it. Or does her ego have its own account? ☺️

Is there a link?

It seems like an Instagram story. Stories are in the profile photo, and disappear after 24 hours. 

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11 hours ago, JonnieUniteUs said:

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This needs to be Called shop and shrink outfit. I guess you have to remain upright the entire time you have this on. Otherwise you might get arrested for public indecency. 

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2 minutes ago, 65mickey said:

This needs to be Called shop and shrink outfit. I guess you have to remain uptight the entire time you have this on. Otherwise you might get arrested for public indecency. 

Unless you are Erika and don’t care what you show 😂

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Rinna and Erika are working hard trying to get rid of Sutton. And Sutton can't seem to keep it together when they go after her.  

They probably would dearly love to go after Garcelle but they don't have the balls for that. Sutton is easier to run off. Garcell wouldn't stand for this. I will be so disappointed if Crystal, Garcelle and Sutton let the coven tear them apart. Divide and conquer is what they are trying to do. 

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18 hours ago, Mar said:

Give me a freaking break. These women are so over the top. Garcelle and Sutton, i’m disappointed  in you for deciding you needed to travel with a glam squad. Just how helpless are these women? And the need to wear a stupid piece of white cloth with the word Balenciaga blazing across it… I just can’t…

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Where are the CHA NEL earrings? The Versace (or Chanel) hair clips? The Birkin bag?

Does she get a commission for being a walking advertisement?

I’ve always found this display tacky.

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21 hours ago, Pondlass1 said:

And Crystal gets all the attention and SL without saying a word. Just sits there looking glum while everyone around her jabbers on about … what? I don’t know!

Yeah, but when Crystal does speak, it usually ends up being, as she would put it, "problematic." Every time she tried to respond to Sutton, Sutton would interrupt and tell Crystal that whatever she was saying wasn't good enough. We're now in the second season of dealing with her word choices. Crystal has the fundamental Housewife skills of Passive Aggression and Grudge Holding, but isn't confrontational enough to hold her own in an argument. It's wise of her to zip up at this point. Also: why does Kyle seem to hate Crystal so much?

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14 hours ago, tvfanatic13 said:

Regarding the birds, I mean, you are ALWAYS going to see birds…. To me that is a crock of ish, and I believe in stuff like that. 
 

I like Rinna’s long wig in her TH. I am so disappointed in myself.

I think Rinna looks nice, too. Better than that slicked-back do she had a few years ago.

Erika, on the other hand…

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17 hours ago, film noire said:

Yeah, I know Enty and his snaky ways ; ) I stopped reading him years ago, when it was debunked that Downey, Jennifer Lawrence, and Di Caprio were possible sources for his blind items

I heard it was Amanda Peet. 😝

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I think Rinna looks nice, too. Better than that slicked-back do she had a few years ago.

Erika, on the other hand…

Erika used to look like a Vegas cocktail waitress who had a good run at the tables. Now she looks like "a cocktail waitress in a Dolly Parton wig." (TM Confederate Railroad's "Trashy Women.") I mean, the financial come-down is obvious.

ETA: no offense to hard-working waitresses everywhere, of which I once was.

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17 minutes ago, pasdetrois said:

I heard it was Amanda Peet. 😝

Erika used to look like a Vegas cocktail waitress who had a good run at the tables. Now she looks like "a cocktail waitress in a Dolly Parton wig." (TM Confederate Railroad's "Trashy Women.") I mean, the financial come-down is obvious.

ETA: no offense to hard-working waitresses everywhere, of which I once was.

She’s just really let herself go. Just compare now to other seasons. Crazy get-ups aside, she often looked very put together. Now, not so much.

If this is because of her depression, I empathize. But she at least should cut back on the booze. That’s not helping, and may well explain the weight gain.

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15 hours ago, tvfanatic13 said:

Regarding the birds, I mean, you are ALWAYS going to see birds…. To me that is a crock of ish, and I believe in stuff like that. 
 

I thought it was ridiculous.  Yes, birds are everywhere and probably on most wall art in hospice settings in one way or another.  Did Rinna say that they spoke to a medium while Her mother was in hospice?  I know people who want to contact the loved one after death but not during death.  Maybe they were trying to communicate with other family members on the other side waiting for Lois.

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23 hours ago, Dixie Sugarbaker said:

I know Sutton lost it for a minute, but I feel for her. She has been on the hot seat the entire time, and while she expected it and was ready for Erika and Rinna, I think she was blindsided by Crystal. And then to have Diana, who knows nothing, to keep chiming in must have put her on edge. Honestly, she needs to have a stiff drink or two before having any interactions with these broads.

I love Sutton but I can see how she's been wrong in the past, however, I do believe Sutton genuinely felt she and Crystal were legitimate friends, hell, apparently they're still friendly at least, so I can see how that would affect her more had it been Erika or Lisa.

While she did get flustered and dramatic, I think if I was passive-aggressively accused of being racist by someone I thought was my friend AND on national television, I think I'd react strongly too, probably way worse than Sutton. 

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The fact that Diana doesn’t like rumors but has no problem trying to take down Sutton (a women she just met) really really bugs me. Wouldn’t she be the first to say hey I didn’t hear this I can’t comment or I’m new to this group and have only been around her a short time I’m gonna not but into something that obviously has been going on before they folded me into this group. because she knows what people doing that to her does? She’s just doesn’t care… but no she cried she got yelled at because ONCE again Sutton found herself needing to defend herself AGAIN for the 100th time so yes god forbid she snapped. 

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55 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

She’s just doesn’t care… but no she cried she got yelled at because ONCE again Sutton found herself needing to defend herself AGAIN for the 100th time so yes god forbid she snapped. 

Diana, who told the viewers that she used to beat up guys who bullied her brother, cries because of Sutton? 

Yeah. I don't buy that. 

12 minutes ago, Juliegirlj said:

Weren’t Teddi and Chrystal good friends? Was Teddi part of the group of women that dumped Crystal ? That would explain a lot. 

I was wondering if Teddi was behind the rumor. Or, at the very least, affiliated with those who were.

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These women are an excellent example of money not making you happy.  If these women were content, they wouldn't hold grudges.

If Andy Cohen and the producers of this show had common sense, they'd know that if you have to make drama over every little thing then you don't have an interesting cast.

And it's either the chemistry is off, the women lack interesting personal lives, or they're too private to show those lives.

One thing I'll say about OC ( pre season 15) was that those women showed their lives and threw down.

And Atlanta has women that can throw down, show their lives and look like they enjoy one another.

BH..not so much since season 5 or 6.

We need a Kim Richards visit..she always brought stuff up..but only for a visit because her being off the show seems to have helped her.

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14 hours ago, princelina said:

The thing about the "glam" that I think makes them look stupid is that they're on an almost local girls trip which involves beach, shops and hotel dinners.  It's like me taking a glam squad to Ocean City or Myrtle Beach!  

Baltimore girl here cracking up about taking a glam squad to Ocean City. Heaven forbid the Thrasher's fries smudged the makeup or outfit!

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1 hour ago, Keywestclubkid said:

The fact that Diana doesn’t like rumors but has no problem trying to take down Sutton (a women she just met) really really bugs me. Wouldn’t she be the first to say hey I didn’t hear this I can’t comment or I’m new to this group and have only been around her a short time I’m gonna not but into something that obviously has been going on before they folded me into this group. because she knows what people doing that to her does? She’s just doesn’t care… but no she cried she got yelled at because ONCE again Sutton found herself needing to defend herself AGAIN for the 100th time so yes god forbid she snapped. 

But Diana was correct in that instance and Sutton was flat wrong.  It’s ok to correct someone!

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2 minutes ago, ancslove said:

But Diana was correct in that instance and Sutton was flat wrong.  It’s ok to correct someone!

Someone that has criticized this person since they met them? It wasn’t coming from a place of help (I call bull with that) she saw an opportunity to jab and took it 

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14 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Someone that has criticized this person since they met them? It wasn’t coming from a place of help (I call bull with that) she saw an opportunity to jab and took it 

Agreed. Diana's been on Sutton since the start of the season. I get the distinct feeling that Erika and Rinna probably "prepped" her about Sutton off camera.

I get it too. Diana and Erika are basically the same person, except Erika's poorer now (and likely in a lot of trouble when the lawsuits go through).

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On 6/16/2022 at 10:33 AM, Straycat80 said:

Kyle was on WWHL. And what is this trend of women wearing dresses barely covering their boobs? I thought the top of her dress was going to slip down and expose everything. Anyway…she said there will be something coming up between Kathy and Rinna so that will probably kill the Crystal vs. Sutton story (until the reunion). 

Is this what she wore?

hope Herman Munster doesn’t go all Oklahoma on her ass for stealing his shoes.

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19 minutes ago, JonnieUniteUs said:

Is this what she wore?

hope Herman Munster doesn’t go all Oklahoma on her ass for stealing his shoes.

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Looks like she's trying to prove she still has perky boobs, after that disaster of a reunion dress.  Love the Muensters reference!

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1 minute ago, RecoveringLawyer said:

Looks like she's trying to prove she still has perky boobs, after that disaster of a reunion dress.  Love the Muensters reference!

I mean now that you mention it :) Andy did out her about her breast reduction .. she got them reduced so "she would never have to wear a bra again"

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2 hours ago, Surrealist said:

Diana, who told the viewers that she used to beat up guys who bullied her brother, cries because of Sutton? 

Yeah. I don't buy that. 

I was wondering if Teddi was behind the rumor. Or, at the very least, affiliated with those who were.

Ya know, it’s been really interesting to me to see just how personal the gossip about Crystal seems to be to Kyle.  She sure does seem invested in smearing her.  She’s campaigning pretty hard.  Nicey-nice, play-both-sides Kyle is out the window on this one.  I’d love to know the story!  

I’m thinking it’s highly possible that you’re right, and Teddi is tied to the friend group.  I don’t think that’s Kyle’s only link to it.  Kyle acts as if she’s been personally affected by something that happened involving Crystal - or maybe someone close to her was.  She’s not acting on this one - this seems all too REAL!

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1 hour ago, Keywestclubkid said:

I mean now that you mention it :) Andy did out her about her breast reduction .. she got them reduced so "she would never have to wear a bra again"

I always thought Kyle had the best boobs on Housewives. I'm surprised she had them reduced because she seemed proud of them, and they didn't look painfully heavy. Maybe they were though. My boobs hurt even thinking about a reduction, so there had to be more to it than not wanting to wear a bra. Are breasts more perky after a reduction, or would that require a lift? 

Anyway, I probably wouldn't have noticed the difference if I hadn't heard about it. Cosmetically, I didn't think Kyle needed to change a thing, but she does look thinner now. Hopefully she's happy, and no back pain or anything. 

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Crystal is NOT having fun.  Even with all of the anti-Suttons surrounding her and encouraging her, playing up to her ego, etc., she is not enjoying this bullshit.  

I think she might be the most real of the bunch - right alongside Garcelle.  She’s also the least pretentious and isn’t obsessed with the superficial crap these other broads live and breathe.  At this point in the season, I get the feeling she’s regretting signing up for this.  I think it’s safe to say she’s the smartest one in the room, but agreeing to be on this show was probably a momentary lapse in judgment. 

Maybe the 14 are a bunch of snooty, self-important, immature, competitive social climbers and she didn’t fit into their little circle of narcissists?  Ya never know…

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Sutton needs to cool it with that “scoldy” bullshit.  Her choice of words, her tone, and that finger-wag would not go over well with me, even if she were doing it to someone I didn’t care for.  I can’t stand that shit.  

When she was basically demanding that Crystal repeat after her when promising not to commit future offenses against her, I was seething.  Who the fuck does she think she is?! Nope…

A confident, empowered woman doesn’t DEMAND anything.  She shouldn’t need to.  She is so out of her element.  Now that I think about it, what in the hell IS her element?

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When did Crystal lose her voice and why does she need Erikuh to speak up for her? 

I mean it is crystal (no pun intended) clear what EJ is up to. But still. STFU Erika.

I loathe her so much. Can't they cast someone who is not the one with her? Someone who will knock her off her narcissistic pedestal? Calling RHONY Dorinda...Bethenny... Anyone??? Bring back Brandi G? Someone that would intimidate her a bit. I'm so tired of the Rinna Jayne show. And then they bring on Diana who is clearly part of the coven. Yeesh.

ETA: I can't imagine getting off on making someone else feel bad the way EJ and LR do to others. They live for that chit and it's just not cool. That knowing grin between each other is gross. I do have faith that EJ will F with the wrong one and find out. It's only a matter of time.

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On 6/15/2022 at 6:12 PM, ancslove said:

Sorry, but I honestly think Garcelle is as manipulative as Erika.  She’s as much a shit-stirrer as Erika and Kyle.  And none of this would be happening if she hadn’t accused Crystal of always planning to say “Are you that girl?” no matter what Sutton said.  And I still don’t know where Garcelle got that idea.  And now she’s accusing Crystal of projecting a false demeanor to gain sympathy.  
 

Diana maybe shouldn’t have got involved, but she was correct about the instance she weighed in on.  Sutton did say about Crystal “I like you but I hate you but I like you” and didn’t water it down with “I hate what you’re doing”. 

Exactly. How Garcelle is sailing through this with supposedly clean hands is beyond me. She completely minimized what Sutton said last year by making it seem like something of Crystal's invention, which, we all saw, is fundamentally not true. And also? Where is Sutton coming from with, "You keep doing this to me!" When did it happen the first time? If we're talking about Crystal's alleged "pattern" of making up lies behind about people behind their backs, that never happened last year. Crystal *did* feel violated by Sutton catching her naked, and she spoke to that very directly to Sutton's face - you can have an issue with Crystal's choice of the word "violated," but nothing about what happened fits this so-called pattern. This whole thing is such a clusterfuck. All I know is Sutton proclaiming, "I did nothing wrong!" doesn't sit well with me when we all saw that she did in fact display some incredibly embarrassing and ignorant white fragility that night.

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1 hour ago, CallmeCray said:

Ya know, it’s been really interesting to me to see just how personal the gossip about Crystal seems to be to Kyle.  She sure does seem invested in smearing her.  She’s campaigning pretty hard.  Nicey-nice, play-both-sides Kyle is out the window on this one.  I’d love to know the story!  

I’m thinking it’s highly possible that you’re right, and Teddi is tied to the friend group.  I don’t think that’s Kyle’s only link to it.  Kyle acts as if she’s been personally affected by something that happened involving Crystal - or maybe someone close to her was.  She’s not acting on this one - this seems all too REAL!

The plot sickens. 

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47 minutes ago, BodhiGurl said:

Can't they cast someone who is not the one with her? Someone who will knock her off her narcissistic pedestal? Calling RHONY Dorinda...Bethenny... Anyone??? Bring back Brandi G? Someone that would intimidate her a bit. I'm so tired of the Rinna Jayne show. And then they bring on Diana who is clearly part of the coven.

I was thinking of them bringing back Camille. We've seen Brandi go after Rinna. What I'm curious about is whether she'd bring that level of smoke to Erika, and even Diana. I can see Brandi targeting Sutton and Garcelle too, tbh. She's a loose cannon.

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1 hour ago, Surrealist said:

I was thinking of them bringing back Camille. We've seen Brandi go after Rinna. What I'm curious about is whether she'd bring that level of smoke to Erika, and even Diana. I can see Brandi targeting Sutton and Garcelle too, tbh. She's a loose cannon.

Yeah but she also likes to cry and play the victim.  Too risky 😄

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7 hours ago, Juliegirlj said:

Weren’t Teddi and Chrystal good friends? Was Teddi part of the group of women that dumped Crystal ? That would explain a lot. 

It’s hard to imagine that Teddi was part of a large group of friends, but it is curious.

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I think that the WWCL guys’ theory why Kyle is gunning for Crystal is because it offended her when Crystal dismissed Kyle, telling her she doesn’t remember hearing Sutton say something problematic and dark because she was drunk. Also because Crystal and Kathy were/are very close.

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On 6/16/2022 at 5:49 PM, RealHousewife said:

Regarding glam, what do you all think about Bravo bringing a makeup artist and hairstylist along to the trips? Could they afford to pay for that? On the practical side, it sounds crazy for one woman to bring multiple employees to fix her up every day, especially when it comes to clothing. 


Remember all of the hoopla when Jill Zaria told Bravo that they should be paying for glam, and she wanted it in her contract.. she asks her lawyer or agent or whatever to let them know she insisted they provide it.  I think Andy fired her shortly after that.  
 

6 hours ago, JonnieUniteUs said:

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Even Versace makes mistakes, darling.

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I didn't think it was possible that the nonsense they've been milking from last season could devolve into something even more embarassing, but this episode was like a junior high fight and we're seeing each warring faction egg on their prize fighter.  Why does Bravo think this is what we want?  It's such a horrible representation of our gender...

I absolutely want Erika off of my TV screen - it's time for her to just fuck off.  She is deplorable. That cackle of hers is worse than nails on a chalkboard. 

I fast forward through any talking head of Dorit.  I can't stand to hear her phony non-accent made up of a combo of accents she never had.  She is the epitome of a poser.   "I'm just such a child of the world..."  Please go back to any of those other countries, woman - and take Bub with ya.

I don't think Rinna is mentally sound, but I think she's a pill popper, at the very least.  I really don't think we ever see her NOT under the influence of something.  I liked her mom WAY more than her, so I'm glad we got to know her before she passed.  I'll think of her every time I see a bird.  I kid.  

Kyle used to be endearing to me, probably because I'm a bit of an overly empathetic sap, which I do believe is her nature - or used to be, so I related to her.  Although I still enjoy her sense of humor, I've finally accepted that she's mostly an ass.  I know she's always been one of the top soldiers for production, but I feel like either we're seeing more of who she always really was, or it's changed her to some degree.  Either way, I'm not a fan anymore.

Come on, Sutton - stop letting your ego (aka insecurities) trip you up!  You, Crystal and Garcelle were the only reason I was still reluctantly watching.  Please get it together if you're going to stay on the show.  Same for Crystal, but the fact that she's not good at this "theater" is a testament to who she really is, in my opinion.  I feel like both Garcelle and Crystal are more grounded in who they are, so they handle "the game" better.  It's sink or swim on this goofy show, and my gut is that Sutton will be the sinker of this bunch.  I believe her divorce, especially the timing of it, strongly affected her identity and she was on shaky ground before she even entered the scene(s).  That put her at a disadvantage, and that face roller was just not enough to take the edge off. 

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6 hours ago, Stats Queen said:

It’s hard to imagine that Teddi was part of a large group of friends, but it is curious.

I'm wondering if the "group of friends" was more of like a Mommy and Me group, or a boot camp, running group, etc. - bonded and gathering regularly for some type of activity - both Teddi and Crystal are in pretty good shape, so my mind immediately went to workout-related associations. 

Was Teddi ever a trainer?

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45 minutes ago, CallmeCray said:

I'll think of her every time I see a bird.  I kid. 

I didn't see any birds today. But I did see the Toronto Blue Jays lose to the New York Yankees. I think it was a sign. It was Lois telling Rinna that she is on a losing team. I hope Rinna is paying attention to this obvious bird sign. 

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3 hours ago, Happy Camper said:

I didn't see any birds today. But I did see the Toronto Blue Jays lose to the New York Yankees. I think it was a sign. It was Lois telling Rinna that she is on a losing team. I hope Rinna is paying attention to this obvious bird sign. 

Beautifully executed!  👊🏼💪🏻👏🏼

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