S06.E11: No Business Like Shade Business

[TexasGal]

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Gizelle hits some speed bumps trying to teach her daughter Grace to drive; Ashley's family isn't happy with Michael's proposed venture into the movie business; Karen and Wendy work on putting together their candle lines.

Airdate: 09.19.2021

[Vanderboom]

I'm not the only one who thought Michael's new business venture was going to be candles, right?

[nb360]

I'm watching Robyn and Juan in the warehouse... and now I understand why they have the financial problems that they do. 

[dosodog]

18 minutes ago, Vanderboom said:

I'm not the only one who thought Michael's new business venture was going to be candles, right?

I think it's porno movies.  Which could involve candles.  I'm not really sure.  Are there candles in porn?

[FlyingEgret]

I honestly assumed Michael's film business was porn; but maybe Candiace could use him for her video...

[spunky]

Mia needs to stay out of Candiace's marriage.  Especially after her behavior on Twitter today. Ashley your family does not need to know all those intimate details. I like Wendy,  but I'm having difficulty believing this dumbed down version of her.

Really Chris?! You had ONE job!

Also Dorothy SHUT UP! Stop trying to sabotage your daughter.  

Edited September 20, 2021 by spunky

[Sharper2002]

I’m just happy Candiace got her music video, chile…

[LaurelleJ]

Mama Dorothy came to be messy. She was trying to spill tea to anyone who would listen. Everyone but Wendy and Askale took a sip. It's season 6, by now she knows they were mic'ed. 

Edited September 20, 2021 by LaurelleJ

[nb360]

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Mia needs to stay out of Candiace's marriage.  Especially after her behavior on Twitter today.

What did she do on Twitter?

[Bronzedog]

I don’t think I’ve ever known, or even heard of, anyone who has had as many problems learning to drive as Grace.  Has to partially be just for a storyline.

[drivethroo]

3 minutes ago, nb360 said:

What did she do on Twitter?

Mia asked if Chris was getting paid then said no because Dorothy said he wasn't hashtag unemployment.  Candiace clapped back by saying she had made it a point to ignore Mia's handsome ass for the rest of the season.

Mia did not like being called "handsome" and agrees with a Twitter user that Candiace was being transphobic by using "handsome" and nneeds to be put off of RHOP.

6 minutes ago, Bronzedog said:

I don’t think I’ve ever known, or even heard of, anyone who has had as many problems learning to drive as Grace.  Has to partially be just for a storyline.

People in Maryland can't drive.

[LaurelleJ]

I'm still trying to get a read on how Andy feels about Candiace. Again on WWHL he spoke about how she was a disaster on twitter, and started his question to her about the mom-shaming by saying that she has pissed off a lot of people. Then they played the regret game and out of 10 scenarios, she regretted none of them. Sometimes I feel like he acts as if he thinks she is team too much. 

[Marley]

Candiaces mom is such a POS. Gossiping about her daughters marriage and saying bitchy little comments at her daughters video shoot is gross. She’s the definition of toxic.

Mia is all over the place. Trying too hard.

Ashley meh. Michael going into the movie biz probably so he can get more access to camera men. 

[Bronzedog]

18 minutes ago, drivethroo said:

 

People in Maryland can't drive.

I’m a Maryland driver.  We were doing all right but now we’re busy dodging Grace. 

[drivethroo]

27 minutes ago, LaurelleJ said:

I'm still trying to get a read on how Andy feels about Candiace. Again on WWHL he spoke about how she was a disaster on twitter, and started his question to her about the mom-shaming by saying that she has pissed off a lot of people.

I am glad she pointed out everyone on the cast has bodyshamed other people, calling their titties saggy (Ashley), talking about stovepipe legs (Karen), talking about flappy vaginas (Karen) etc so if they're going to come after her for bodyshaming they need to come after everyone.

27 minutes ago, LaurelleJ said:

Then they played the regret game and out of 10 scenarios, she regretted none of them. Sometimes I feel like he acts as if he thinks she is team too much. 

Andy wants Candiace to play the role of the chastened and Candiace won't do it because nobody else is being held to that same standard.  He is always trying to browbeat Candiace into being "sorry" but does not do the same to the other RHOP cast members (like Gizelle and Ashley).  He'll probably bring up the Twitter fight between her and Ashley yet without mentioning the part that Ashley was an active participant in that situation.

8 minutes ago, Bronzedog said:

I’m a Maryland driver.  We were doing all right but now we’re busy dodging Grace. 

I'm in Maryland.  Ya'll can't drive.   Maryland drivers go either 40 miles above the speed limit or 40 miles below the speed limit. To be fair, I find my self shaking my fist at Virginia drivers too.

14 minutes ago, Marley said:

Candiaces mom is such a POS. Gossiping about her daughters marriage and saying bitchy little comments at her daughters video shoot is gross. She’s the definition of toxic.

She went to every cast member to talk shit about Chris.  Only Wendy & Askale were like no ma'am.

And why would Dorothy go gossiping about Candiace to KAREN of all people?  Karen, the woman who tried to get your daughter fired?

Edited September 20, 2021 by drivethroo

[For Cereals]

Mia needs to stop trying to use big words…”flunder”

Dorothy is awful.  I think her voice grates on my nerves as much as Heavenly’s cackle, well Heavenly in general.

[truthaboutluv]

Bless Askale. She clearly does not know Robyn of "Robyn and Gizelle" versus the Robyn she knows in private. Girlfriend really thought these two messy heifers would be as bothered as she was by Dorothy and Mia's messiness. 

Instead both Gizelle and Robyn were gleeful that someone was asking what they wanted to. Hell, Gizelle owned it by saying she wanted Mia to get the tea and come spill it all back to her. 

Edited September 20, 2021 by truthaboutluv

[nb360]

I must have missed this, but why is Mia tweeting about Chris?

[spunky]

1 hour ago, nb360 said:

What did she do on Twitter?

Mia tried to throw shade at Chris,  so Candiace clapped back.  She then insinuated that she and Chris had some type of sexual relationship. Which of course made Chris put her in her place.  She then made a fake apology to Chris while still insinuating that she and Chris had an encounter in the past. Now she's calling Candiace transphobic for calling her handsome.

[Marley]

Mia needs to shut the fuck up lol.

[Bronzedog]

7 minutes ago, Marley said:

Mia needs to shut the fuck up lol.

And, go away.

[spunky]

16 minutes ago, nb360 said:

I must have missed this, but why is Mia tweeting about Chris?

She tried to come for Chris and Candiace clapped back by saying she made it a point to ignore her handsome ass for the rest of the season.  She then posted in response, insinuating that she and Chris had a prior sexual encounter.  When Chris checked her by saying he prefers his women au naturale and dark chocolate,  she again insinuated that they had a prior encounter. 

Spoiler

https://twitter.com/mrsmiathornton/status/1439624992392720386?s=20

 

Edited September 20, 2021 by spunky

[nb360]

Ok… but what’s going on now with Karen on Twitter?  

 

[RealReality]

4 hours ago, dosodog said:

I think it's porno movies.  Which could involve candles.  I'm not really sure.  Are there candles in porn?

"making movies" is a great way to launder money.  

It appears to happen in a lot of bollywood movies, the wolf of wall streeet and franchise pictures was able to fiddle with the balance sheets with losing films that it would be an easy way to launder money.  

Listening to Shiela delusionally pretending like she "showed Michael there would be consequences" kinda makes me understand why he hates her.  

Anyways, Michael should get into the wick game, everyone is crazy for these wicks!

 

2 hours ago, Bronzedog said:

I don’t think I’ve ever known, or even heard of, anyone who has had as many problems learning to drive as Grace.  Has to partially be just for a storyline.

Its fully for some storyline and maybe to give Grace a little spending money, IMO.

Gizelle is far too high strung and that child should have a driving instructor.  

[eXiled]

I'm sitting here at 4:00 in the morning watching this, still half asleep, when Ashley says something that I suspect will make sleeping impossible ever after.

What the fuck is a prolapsed uterus? Seriously, y'all. I'm child-free, so I've never heard of such a thing. I'm sitting here traumatized, especially since sis so casually updated her fam around the kitchen table like she was telling them about her latest protein mask.

[Chatty Cake]

Why would Ashley talk about her reproductive body issues to her family while they are eating? Nasty! 
I know Dorothy is messy but she’s only saying what the others are thinking. Most people want their child’s spouse to have a real job. Candiace is not big enough to need a hand holder husbandger. She can’t dance or sing. She’s too short to model. Maybe she can land some Lifetime or Hallmark style movies. What we saw of the video shoot looked lame. Let Chris do his work and get your own cars for your video that you wasted money on.

[Baltimore Betty]

3 hours ago, eXiled said:

What the fuck is a prolapsed uterus?

It is something you don't want and it is something that would keep Michael from having sex with Ashley and we all know that is the most important thing, right? You know whether or not Michael can get his.

The prolapse is due to weaken muscles and the uterus slips down, way down to as Ashley said, down thru her lady bits.  Why she needed to announce that first thing during breakfast we will never know but I guess that is her story line for the rest of the season, it is her prolapesed uterus.

I wish the costumer for Candiace's video put her in something better than swap meet tube sox, a shiny pair of spanks and a white tube top, everyone else looks a million times better than she does.

At the video shoot Askale looked like Slash.

Their location for the shoot is an odd choice, it looks like a professional office park, hardly the back streets of a city.

Wendy has no game in the home decor arena, a house full of fake HomeGoods plants and dust collectors does not an interior designer make.

We learn that Karen was vassinated or was it vaginated, a grown women with kids does not know it is vaccinated?

Edited September 20, 2021 by Baltimore Betty

[LaurelleJ]

8 hours ago, drivethroo said:

I am glad she pointed out everyone on the cast has bodyshamed other people, calling their titties saggy (Ashley), talking about stovepipe legs (Karen), talking about flappy vaginas (Karen) etc so if they're going to come after her for bodyshaming they need to come after everyone.

The selective outrage over Candiace vs the rest of the cast is getting ridiculous. People don't like her so they attack everything she says. I'm so glad that she pointed this out. Whether you like Candiace or not, it is clear that there is a serious double standard. 

 

8 hours ago, truthaboutluv said:

Bless Askale. She clearly does not know Robyn of "Robyn and Gizelle" versus the Robyn she knows in private. Girlfriend really thought these two messy heifers would be as bothered as she was by Dorothy and Mia's messiness. 

Instead both Gizelle and Robyn were gleeful that someone was asking what they wanted to. Hell, Gizelle owned it by saying she wanted Mia to get the tea and come spill it all back to her. 

If Askale becomes full time, I see this as being a part of her storyline, "discovering RHOP Robyn". 

 

6 hours ago, nb360 said:

Ok… but what’s going on now with Karen on Twitter?  

 

When I saw this on twitter, it made me think that Karen is actually an episode behind all of us and watching last week's episode where Gizelle said Karen AND Ray will be dad before she apologized. Maybe her tweets are scheduled and she messed up. She will blame Siri again. 

[eXiled]

I think my favorite line of the whole episode was: "Not the skip-hop!" Was that Robyn? I hollered.

Y'all, Gizelle dances exactly the way I imagined she would. I say that as a rhythm-less non-dancer in my own right. We know our own. Loved how Giz drank all the tea Miss Dorothy was pouring even from a distance.

Robyn and Askale (them boots!) were given me cute video girl ho-ness. Loved it! Mia was probably wearing the outfit she gardens in on the weekends. No shade. Kurn was doing sexy auntie.

Wendy running to tell Candiace about Mia was ... fine. Wendy is holding on to her champagne flute for dear life. I did giggle when she said Mia had yet to meet rat-ta-tat-tat Candiace.

Miss Dorothy ain't shit. Got me out here feeling sorry for Candiace. That girl needs real therapy -- not that on-screen Bravo mess. REAL therapy to sort out her issues with that dragon lady of a mother. Dot is amusing, but being in her orbit must be exhausting.

Edited September 20, 2021 by eXiled

[RealReality]

So is Ashley preemptively giving Michael an excuse for his pending infidelity?

The double standard for candace is pretty ridiculous but she has gotten that song played on air like 15 times.  

Michael is involved in something shady with those movies.

Ashley sounds like she is parroting some nonsense.  And it's funny to me that she delusionally thinks she is going to be an equal partner in any of this.  

ALMOST as funny as shiela acting like her broke ass "taught" Michael a lesson.  She better check her tone before Michael cuts off her allowance. 

[goofygirl]

10 hours ago, Marley said:

Candiaces mom is such a POS. Gossiping about her daughters marriage and saying bitchy little comments at her daughters video shoot is gross. She’s the definition of toxic.

Mia is all over the place. Trying too hard.

Ashley meh. Michael going into the movie biz probably so he can get more access to camera men. 

Not just cameramen! Sound guys, tech guys, lighting guys, catering guys, glam squad guys....... The list is ENDLESS!!

[Pop Tart]

2 hours ago, LaurelleJ said:

The selective outrage over Candiace vs the rest of the cast is getting ridiculous. People don't like her so they attack everything she says. I'm so glad that she pointed this out. Whether you like Candiace or not, it is clear that there is a serious double standard. 

 

11 hours ago, drivethroo said:

I am glad she pointed out everyone on the cast has bodyshamed other people, calling their titties saggy (Ashley), talking about stovepipe legs (Karen), talking about flappy vaginas (Karen) etc so if they're going to come after her for bodyshaming they need to come after everyone.

 

All of those other examples? The cast members who said them were dragged for it at the time. Just because they're not brought up now doesn't mean they weren't criticized for their body shaming comments in the past. Right now it's Candiace who has said some things and she's rightly getting heat for it. Karen and Ashley did get hate for their comments in the past. Now it's Candiace's turn. 

[jmcd44]

12 hours ago, drivethroo said:

People in Maryland can't drive.

Can confirm-I learned to drive there and still think a blinker is a suggestion. No need to get over to the right lane to exit until you are 0.1 miles away. I'm mostly kidding-all of my limited driving is usually in heavy traffic. But I scream when I go home and Maryland drivers are just driving in the left lane at the speed limit when the middle lane is open and inviting to them. 

12 hours ago, drivethroo said:

To be fair, I find my self shaking my fist at Virginia drivers too.

That's because we all moved here from Maryland. 😄

Dorothy is awful. I think Candiace takes everything too far, but to grow up with Dorothy as a mother must've done some damage. Isn't she a psychologist? I would never want to work on myself with this woman as my doctor. That said, I laughed when Mia said Dorothy was asking if Chris was on the payroll and Gizelle said "Is he?" I'm nosy so I would want to know also.

Why didn't they start shooting the video earlier if they were worried about the sun going down? And I'm glad they used the wives cars-they were probably just as nice as the ones MIA.

[bichonblitz]

Ashley, you got your two kids now, just what you wanted. Leave that old pervert, collect your 18 years of child support and keep all your checks to yourself that you're making on this show. You will be just fine.  Do it!

Didn't Gizelle's daughter just get her DL? Why all the screaming every time she had to turn the corner in the empty parking lot? Was avoiding the cones that traumatic? Something is out of sequence. Also, side note, that girl is unbelievable gorgeous! Looks just like Gizelle with dark hair. Good genes for sure. 

When you are raised by Dorothy there is no way you will come out of it being a happy, well adjusted, kind individual. Candyass is a mess and she is mean. She needs many years of deep therapy. 

[drivethroo]

1 hour ago, Pop Tart said:

All of those other examples? The cast members who said them were dragged for it at the time. Just because they're not brought up now doesn't mean they weren't criticized for their body shaming comments in the past. Right now it's Candiace who has said some things and she's rightly getting heat for it. Karen and Ashley did get hate for their comments in the past. Now it's Candiace's turn. 

There is a clear double standard for when Candiace says something versus when the other cast members say something.  The people who got their lives to Karen calling Gizelle "stovepipe legs" and talking about her "fat vagina" are the same folks OMG CANDIACE IS BODY SHAMING when she says anything about Ashley.  We don't see Andy Cohen continuously pressing Karen or Gizelle or Ashley or anyone else about their bodyshaming like he does with Candiace.   I hope Candiace brings her own binder of receipts about bodyshaming when she's asked about it again at the reunion and when Ashley pretends to be so hurt again at the reunion.  Everyone on the cast has bodyshamed another cast member; don't just single out Candiace.

If a viewer don't like Candiace, just say "I don't like that bitch, I'm glad Monique beat her up, I hope somebody else beat her up and I want her fired from the show."  All of this pretzel twisting about why Candiace needs to get it but not wanting to shine the light on other, more liked cast members ...no ma'am.

35 minutes ago, jmcd44 said:

Can confirm-I learned to drive there and still think a blinker is a suggestion. No need to get over to the right lane to exit until you are 0.1 miles away

It's like Really? I'm going 15 mph over the speed limit in the center lane, you are tailgating me, zoom around me in the left lane only to swerve across the highway to exit on the right lane.  Really?

37 minutes ago, jmcd44 said:

That's because we all moved here from Maryland. 😄

I will be shaking my fist at Virginia drivers tomorrow.  Please pray.

39 minutes ago, jmcd44 said:

Why didn't they start shooting the video earlier if they were worried about the sun going down? And I'm glad they used the wives cars-they were probably just as nice as the ones MIA.

I wondered why they didn't switch timing of the auto body scene with the parking lot scene but I wonder if the videographer wanted to capture that Golden Hour light.  The Golden Hour is that hour before sunset where the sunlight is not as harsh and gives a nice golden filtered effect.  If they filmed the outdoor scene earlier in the day, the sunlight may have been a bit too harsh for filming.

25 minutes ago, bichonblitz said:

Didn't Gizelle's daughter just get her DL? Why all the screaming every time she had to turn the corner in the empty parking lot? Was avoiding the cones that traumatic?

I think she was doing that on purpose to scare Gizelle, lol.

43 minutes ago, jmcd44 said:

That said, I laughed when Mia said Dorothy was asking if Chris was on the payroll and Gizelle said "Is he?" I'm nosy so I would want to know also.

Chris was pissed off when he saw that scene, too.  Don't be smiling in my face, then running around to all of my wife's coworkers and talking shit about me.

[byrd]

On 9/17/2021 at 2:53 PM, TexasGal said:

Airdate: 09.19.2021

Me thinks Grace does not need to be driving ..

13 hours ago, Bronzedog said:

I’m a Maryland driver.  We were doing all right but now we’re busy dodging Grace. 

This !!!

[Iguessnot]

36 minutes ago, drivethroo said:

There is a clear double standard for when Candiace says something versus when the other cast members say something.  The people who got their lives to Karen calling Gizelle "stovepipe legs" and talking about her "fat vagina" are the same folks OMG CANDIACE IS BODY SHAMING when she says anything about Ashley.  We don't see Andy Cohen continuously pressing Karen or Gizelle or Ashley or anyone else about their bodyshaming like he does with Candiace.   I hope Candiace brings her own binder of receipts about bodyshaming when she's asked about it again at the reunion and when Ashley pretends to be so hurt again at the reunion.  Everyone on the cast has bodyshamed another cast member; don't just single out Candiace.

If a viewer don't like Candiace, just say "I don't like that bitch, I'm glad Monique beat her up, I hope somebody else beat her up and I want her fired from the show."  All of this pretzel twisting about why Candiace needs to get it but not wanting to shine the light on other, more liked cast members ...no ma'am.

It's like Really? I'm going 15 mph over the speed limit in the center lane, you are tailgating me, zoom around me in the left lane only to swerve across the highway to exit on the right lane.  Really?

I will be shaking my fist at Virginia drivers tomorrow.  Please pray.

I wondered why they didn't switch timing of the auto body scene with the parking lot scene but I wonder if the videographer wanted to capture that Golden Hour light.  The Golden Hour is that hour before sunset where the sunlight is not as harsh and gives a nice golden filtered effect.  If they filmed the outdoor scene earlier in the day, the sunlight may have been a bit too harsh for filming.

I think she was doing that on purpose to scare Gizelle, lol.

Chris was pissed off when he saw that scene, too.  Don't be smiling in my face, then running around to all of my wife's coworkers and talking shit about me.

I think Candiace was stupid for meanly calling a pregnant woman wide ass. I can't stand Kenya Moore, but I felt the same way when Nene called her a buffalo.  I'm not going down the "body shaming" rabbit hole. I dislike insulting (not playful teasing) the ladies for the physical symptoms of pregnancy.  

[Maire]

“Pass me by Oh Gentle Savior”🎼

I love Karen! 

[gwen747]

Really Dorothy? That gigantic sofa in Candiace's living room is something you would have in your first apartment?  She's ridiculous. 

[Mr. Miner]

I was embarrassed for Candiace and her video shoot because, you know, it was embarrassing. When she jumped into Chris’s arms at the end she was acting like a pouty five year old. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[LaurelleJ]

9 minutes ago, gwen747 said:

Really Dorothy? That gigantic sofa in Candiace's living room is something you would have in your first apartment?  She's ridiculous. 

Chile, I wish. That sofa wouldn't even fit in my first apartment.

[Hiyo]

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Are there candles in porn?

Ask RHOC's Tamra.

[Marley]

1 hour ago, gwen747 said:

Really Dorothy? That gigantic sofa in Candiace's living room is something you would have in your first apartment?  She's ridiculous. 

Lmao right? That couch was prob bigger then most of my first apartment combined.

[Boo Boo]

Why is Wendy dressed like she's a member of the Bloods in the video shoot?

[Boo Boo]

17 hours ago, drivethroo said:

 

I'm in Maryland.  Ya'll can't drive.   Maryland drivers go either 40 miles above the speed limit or 40 miles below the speed limit. To be fair, I find my self shaking my fist at Virginia drivers too.

 

Marylander here too.  YES  to all that -- add in the left lane hoggers.  Also, add in shaking first at West Virginia drivers.  Terrible!  

[RealReality]

As a California driver, I, too, feel that the blinker is a discretionary tool.  

Everyone is on edge and in a competition driving driving freeways so the minute you put your blinker on to pass someone they will try to speed up.  So they can be in front of you and drive 47 miles an hour on the freeway. 

[TheCouchPotato]

God I love Karen - “I had to get a ‘vassination’ to be here.”  She is everything! 
My husband would show my Mom the door if she was anything Iike Dorothy. Then again, my Mom doesn’t pay our bills or mortgage….
 

[Baltimore Betty]

27 minutes ago, Boo Boo said:

Marylander here too.  YES  to all that -- add in the left lane hoggers.  Also, add in shaking first at West Virginia drivers.  Terrible!  

Ugh, I do not miss Maryland rush hour traffic, the turn only lanes that are passing lanes for some folks, the need to tailgate to get to the next lane only to stop short and stand still in that lane too...horrible.  

Come up 795 some time and experience the thrill of someone deciding not to get off at Owings Mills Blvd. and just merging back over without a care in the world.

[RealReality]

3 minutes ago, TheCouchPotato said:

God I love Karen - “I had to get a ‘vassination’ to be here.”  She is everything! 
My husband would show my Mom the door if she was anything Iike Dorothy. Then again, my Mom doesn’t pay our bills or mortgage….
 

I kinda thought that was the cruelest part of what Dorothy said.  

She knows how much flack candiace got for having  Dorothy pay for that townhouse.  

Candace made a big deal about her and Chris buying that house on their own and I think they likely did.  

Dorothy didn't directly say anything about paying for the house because it would be a lie,  but she knew the implication and allowed it.  

It seemed mean spirited to me.  I think Dorothy, loves, hates and envies candace. 

[FlyingEgret]

What are the chances Chris never ordered the fancy cars - with Candiace's knowledge and approval - knowing the ladies would be driving nice enough cars to the shoot.  The cars were always going to be in the background and it sure saved a bunch of cash...

Also - in one of Mia's tweets, she added #souschelf - is that a thing or does she not know how to spell chef???