S01.E12: Sinners in the City

[Baltimore Betty]

11 minutes ago, MrsRafaelBarba said:

Coach has a side piece on the road and deep down Jen suspects or knows it.

Please go away Brooks.

I said that from the begining, Coach is doing some coaching on the side and he probably got caught by Jen, makes me wonder if Jen tells him she will kill herself if he leaves her, anything to play up the drama so he will do anything to avoid that mess.  

Brooks, blech.

[Baltimore Betty]

2 hours ago, njbchlover said:

WTF is a $2500.00 coat doing laying on the floor of his closet??  Unless, of course, the dog is so amazing that he can jump up and poop on a coat on a hanger??  You would think that as a "designer", Brooks would have more respect for clothing than to just throw it on the floor.

So far the dog is the MVP of this episode.

[SemiCharmedLife]

9 hours ago, njbchlover said:

I would have LOVED that!!!  Better yet - I wonder who cleaned it up??  Just for the record - I really don't blame the dog for pooping in Brooks Marks' closet.  The poor thing is probably just as sick of Brooks' voice and whining as we are!  😂

The dog was giving his honest critique of the Brooks Marks clothing line.

[princelina]

9 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

The SLC HW's have the worst wardrobes, nobody ever seems to be on the page when they are all at the same event, Whitney lost me with her mom jeans and lug boots at dinner the first night, Meredith in a sweat suit and the others dressed up and then again at that nutjob hypnotists, Heather in that black leather and white tee shirt ensamble was shameful, Jenn in that lime green retro 1960's too tight jumpsuit, was it Lisa or Meredith (they are the Chip and Dale of this show, I could never remember which chipmonk was which), that wore the animal print with the sparkles top was horrid.  

That was Meredith - I think Lisa wins "best dressed" on this franchise, even though I can't remember anything she's ever worn 😄   Except that sparkly track suit from last night - I made fun of it for not being a "Brooks Marks" but actually I did think it was cute.

7 hours ago, Sun-Bun said:

Jen gives me shades of RH of Dallas’s former psycho hosebeast Leanne Locken, therefore I’m thinking her shelf life will be cut similarly short; a little of that madness goes a long way and audiences tire of that. Not to mention this current Dallas season is soooo much better and lighter without her former dark energy. 

They clung to Leanne like grim death while she threatened to kill people and threw glasses.  That is allowed; racist remarks are not.

5 hours ago, heatherchandler said:

He said it was his Monclear coat!  They are about $2,500 so of course he had to throw that in. 

The little fucker 😄 

[Keywestclubkid]

Jen is PSYCHO ... single white female no one can be your friend but her and she will cut you crazy .....lord baby Jesus 

[LakeGal]

Jen took a 4 person glam squad with her and still looked like that?  A person has to be quite ugly to need 4 people along on a trip to attempt to improve her looks.

[bosawks]

Lunacy, if it’s the same lunacy week after week, will always grow tedious.

[b2H]

Interesting that they announce next week’s finale is just a finale and not a season finale.

This one has passed its sell-by date.  Jen ruined the show for everyone else because she is a very sick and sad individual.  Accountability is for everyone but her.

News flash:  if nobody trusts you, you are the problem.

ETA:  was the big guy that escorted Jen from the dinner her bodyguard or a bouncer from the hotel that was gonna take no nonsense from this poor excuse of an adult woman?

Edited January 29, 2021 by b2H

[sauce62]

That was horrible to watch, truly. Jen clearly has a drinking problem. And as someone above so succinctly pointed out, what's so terrible if Lisa and Meredith are afraid of her? Why are they so busy denying that, while flames are shooting out of Jen's nostrils? Painful to watch. Torture really.

Also, Meredith's eyebrows looked particularly huge at the dinner and the long blonde hair looked good on Whitney. 

[SemiCharmedLife]

1 hour ago, b2H said:

ETA:  was the big guy that escorted Jen from the dinner her bodyguard or a bouncer from the hotel that was gonna take no nonsense from this poor excuse of an adult woman?

He was her bodyguard, but I am theorizing that Coach Shah hired him to prevent injuries inflicted on others by his wife.  He's probably there to avoid future lawsuits.

[ichbin]

3 hours ago, LakeGal said:

Jen took a 4 person glam squad with her and still looked like that?  A person has to be quite ugly to need 4 people along on a trip to attempt to improve her looks.

I had a friend who took over two hours to apply her make-up to go out clubbing.  When another person heard about that she said "She only looks fair to middling with it on, how bad does she look with it off?"  I think of that most times I see a glam squad on one of these shows.  

[ichbin]

32 minutes ago, SemiCharmedLife said:

He was her bodyguard, but I am theorizing that Coach Shah hired him to prevent injuries inflicted on others by his wife.  He's probably there to avoid future lawsuits.

He looked like he could have been of Pacific Islander descent so I figured he was another one of her relatives.  Didn't she say she was related to some of the people working at that party she threw for someone (Meredith?) in one of the first few episodes?

[princelina]

3 hours ago, ichbin said:

I had a friend who took over two hours to apply her make-up to go out clubbing.  When another person heard about that she said "She only looks fair to middling with it on, how bad does she look with it off?"  I think of that most times I see a glam squad on one of these shows.  

Glam squads usually make me roll my eyebrows, but there was something hilarious when Heather entered what appeared to be a tiny hotel room crowded with people showing off on behalf of "Jen Shah" that made me lol 😄 

[65mickey]

16 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I said that from the begining, Coach is doing some coaching on the side and he probably got caught by Jen, makes me wonder if Jen tells him she will kill herself if he leaves her, anything to play up the drama so he will do anything to avoid that mess.  

Brooks, blech.

More likely she threatened to kill him. And he took it seriously because he knows her.

[65mickey]

Bravo put up with drunk crazy Dorinda for way too many seasons before she became a liability. But before she self destructed she could be fun and clever and she threw great parties. Jen in my opinion has never been fun or witty or entertaining.  She has nothing to offer unless people want to watch a psyco bitch lose her shit week after week. 

[luckyroll3]

Damn, I thought Mary was the crazy one, but Jen....I see you girl!

[MaggieG]

I actually like Heather so I'm glad she confronted Jen on her behavior. So Jen texted Heather she was leaving and per Jen, she went halfway to the airport and turned back? I highly doubt it. 

I thought this was an entertaining episode. It wasn't boring, but I do agree that Jen is a lunatic. I'm over her and her ridiculous "Shah squad". To follow her logic, she is upset because Whitney ruined her husband's birthday by bringing up the fact that Mary said that Lisa and Meredith said they were scared of her. So now that Lisa and Meredith are good with Whitney it means to Jen that what they supposedly said was true? Because if it wasn't true, that means Whitney lied and why would Lisa and Meredith be good with her if she lied about them. At this point, they all need to confront Mary because it started with her. Get Mary out of the closet!

I kind of like Whitney just spilling all the tea after Jen went off on her. She thought they moved past it. Why would she continue to stay loyal to Jen?

Can we have the hypnotist host the reunion?

[Baltimore Betty]

6 hours ago, 65mickey said:

Bravo put up with drunk crazy Dorinda for way too many seasons before she became a liability. But before she self destructed she could be fun and clever and she threw great parties. Jen in my opinion has never been fun or witty or entertaining.  She has nothing to offer unless people want to watch a psyco bitch lose her shit week after week. 

I cannot wait for the reunion, I hope Andy plays a montage of every flip out Jen ever had!

[SweetieDarling]

1 minute ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I cannot wait for the reunion, I hope Andy plays a montage of every flip out Jen ever had!

She'll blame editing.

[heatherchandler]

2 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I cannot wait for the reunion, I hope Andy plays a montage of every flip out Jen ever had!

Are they having a reunion?  Next week is the finale.

[65mickey]

3 hours ago, SweetieDarling said:

She'll blame editing.

Or she will say look what you made me do. 

[Baltimore Betty]

1 hour ago, heatherchandler said:

Are they having a reunion?  Next week is the finale.

I would hope they would since this is the first season of a new HW city...I keep imagining a montage of Jen flipping out at various times in slow motion with a 70's power ballad playing like "The Winner Takes it All," or maybe "All By Myself."  Close ups on her distorted crying face...some days I have too much time on my hands.

[DeeplyShallow]

1 hour ago, heatherchandler said:

Are they having a reunion?  Next week is the finale.

They are having a reunion. Andy had Whitney on WWHL and they talked about it. Plus, there are pics out there of the women on set

[MrsWitter]

They filmed a reunion and the fashion is... something. Apparently Andy said during a WWHL aftershow that the show is definitely getting a second season. 

[Baltimore Betty]

1 minute ago, MrsWitter said:

They filmed a reunion and the fashion is... something. Apparently Andy said during a WWHL aftershow that the show is definitely getting a second season. 

Those are some really bad fashion choices.  Did Brooks design those gowns 😏

[eclectcmoi]

There's a reunion.  Andy has mentioned that it took a long time to film.  

I love Heather... she called Jen out, putting the blame directly back on Jen's ugly behavior from the night before. I've said it before, Jen is seriously damaged and it's not fun watching her spiral. 

I like Meredith and her disengaging.  It might not make for the best reality TV, but I respect the hell out of her removing herself from drama that's negative to her well being. Now if I didn't have to see or even hear Brooks anymore, my like would move to love. 

This franchise needs an Archie or a River.  And not just for shitting in a closet. 

[MrsWitter]

29 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Those are some really bad fashion choices.  Did Brooks design those gowns 😏

LOL! I do think these looks are a little too complex (labor-intensive) for the clearly labor-averse Brooks. Also, I can’t believe he would let anything out under his “fashion label” that doesn’t have his name all over it. Like, maybe the ribbon from the tracksuits along the hemlines. He has the BEST name. He told us so. 

36 minutes ago, eclectcmoi said:

This franchise needs an Archie or a River.  And not just for shitting in a closet. 

River is my favorite cast member across all of Bravo.

[LakeGal]

I hope Brooksie doesn't find a way to show up on the reunion.

Jen is one of those people that likes to cause all her friends to fight with each other.  She doesn't want them to be friends without her. That way they only confide in her.  I knew a girl in high school like that.  We all compared notes and figured out what she was doing. But of course that was back in High School.  Adult women normally don't act this way.  

[njbchlover]

42 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Those are some really bad fashion choices.  Did Brooks design those gowns 😏

Doubtful....there's no "Brooks Marks" bias tape plastered all over any of the dresses.  

But - I agree - lots of really bad fashion in that one photo.  And, wtf - did Whitney have huge implants done or did she attach two flesh-colored bowling balls to her chest??  

That is one of the most awkward Reunion photos I've ever seen, from any franchise.  Those that are smiling look like their smiles are extremely forced, and the others just look constipated.

Edited January 30, 2021 by njbchlover

[Stats Queen]

6 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

That is one of the most awkward Reunion photos I've ever seen, from any franchise.  Those that are smiling look like their smiles are extremely forced, and the others just look constipated.

Great summary. So, so many things wrong with that photo and their non BM (I mean Brooks Marks) tracksuits.

I miss the first few years of the RH franchise where they showed up in nice dresses and their original faces. As with many things in life, I guess I give those times a sad adieu.

 

[njbchlover]

2 hours ago, MrsWitter said:

They filmed a reunion and the fashion is... something. Apparently Andy said during a WWHL aftershow that the show is definitely getting a second season. 

I'm sorry and I hope I don't offend anyone, but this group, in those outfits, are not exactly what I think of when I imagine a group of Mormon women.  

[Legalbeagle421]

20 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

I'm sorry and I hope I don't offend anyone, but this group, in those outfits, are not exactly what I think of when I imagine a group of Mormon women.  

That's an interesting observation. I guess the women who seem to identify most with religion (Heather--though she's conflicted; Lisa; and Mary) are the most covered up. 

[SimonSeymour]

Jen said that there are only two options: either Lisa and Meredith are lying, or Whitney is.  

How is there not a third option: Mary is lying?

Not that it matters anyway because Jen is violent and mentally disordered and this argument is both stupid and boring. But if I had to guess, I think Lisa probably did tell Mary that she and Meredith are scared of Jen. And Jen just keeps proving that they are right to be.

 

Edited January 30, 2021 by SimonSeymour

[njbchlover]

Another little takeaway I just remembered from this episode:

Whitney is extremely limber!!  When she was doing those yoga moves in her bed, and she lithely pulled her leg straight up and behind her head, I was like "WHOA"......no wonder Justin is happy with her!  🤣

[Wicked]

Heather looks like she has lost quite a bit of weight in that reunion photo

[emmawoodhouse]

Jen looks like she's also lost a ton and had her face pulled even tighter.

[Chatty Cake]

Hey Brooks, get your lazy ass out of bed and take the poor dog outside to pee and poop. Just hearing his voice was too much. 
Oh Jen why so crazy? I think we understand why Coach Shah is never around.

[KnoxForPres]

5 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

Hey Brooks, get your lazy ass out of bed and take the poor dog outside to pee and poop. Just hearing his voice was too much. 
Oh Jen why so crazy? I think we understand why Coach Shah is never around.

Hey Brooks pick your fancy ass jacket up too if you know your dog is doing what we are all thinking!  By the way- he was aiming for the track suits. 

I actually found this a solid episode. I thought the disengaging was wonderful while I found the reasoning sad she said it in a way I really felt for her instead of traditional HW moves  

People seem to think alcohol is a problem for Jen and while I don’t disagree I just find her an extremely angry person and able to be set off at any time. She is not good tv and needs to be gone- Mary too.  Mar bc she is stuck in a closet.

There are good bones here and I think it could be a good franchise.

[Bossa Nova]

On 1/28/2021 at 10:56 AM, 65mickey said:

I want to see that too and because he said he almost cried because the dog shit on his blue coat I want to see him cry. 

If his coat was that important/valuable, ......why did he have it laying on the floor ? (only way the dog could have pooped on it !)

[KoKo]

On 1/28/2021 at 2:53 PM, heatherchandler said:

She does seem to have a problem speaking.  She also has some very strange facial tics.  I can't figure her out.  I think she really loves to brag about all of her stuff and her homes, but she kind of keeps it in the back of her head that she should not really do that because a pastor shouldn't brag.  And a pastor shouldn't really be using her money from the church to buy GUCCI!  But she can't help herself so she brags.  

I really feel for her maid, her cousin Charlinda.  She doesn't treat her well, she really shows a lack of respect.  Also she has this woman wear a hair net?  I am sure it is to make sure that the cousin knows her place.  When she said that she knows nothing about the cousin's private life, it was said in a way to show that Mary doesn't consort with the "help."

I kind of hope that Charlinda is stealing from her.  Or, I hope Charlinda starts fucking the grandpa and gets to kick Mary out of the 25 homes.  I shouldn't wish this, I know it is wrong.  

 

I think Mary is just creepy as hell on so many levels.  Those HORRIBLE wigs. Just no.  Her interior is as gawdy and cheap looking as Jennifer's in RHNJ, DAYYUUMM!!  When she starts showing the attitude and her tics and the eyes start bugging out......While I'm not a fan of Jen's, Mary's excuse for disrespect because Jen smelt like a hospital ~ not because it brought back a bad memory of a loved one, but did I hear this right,  "Because she (Mary) was in the hospital for about a month (?) because of her leaking glands?" Is that what she said?  Somebody please feel free to correct me. I hope you're able to correct me.    The way she treats her own cousin, smdh ~ disgraceful !!!    Her taste in her own clothes, like the interior of her house is just hideous.  just no. I don't care if she's wearing Versace, YSL, Gucci, etc... she chooses the worst of their collection!   And then the obvious....I don't care if this grandpa isn't her own "blood", there's just lines that you don't cross- and the fact that her mother is livid because it should've been her? HER stepdad ?  WTH ??!!!  And then there's Brooks. What a horrible little bitch. 

[Bossa Nova]

57 minutes ago, KoKo said:

I think Mary is just creepy as hell on so many levels.  Those HORRIBLE wigs. Just no.  Her interior is as gawdy and cheap looking as Jennifer's in RHNJ, DAYYUUMM!!  When she starts showing the attitude and her tics and the eyes start bugging out......While I'm not a fan of Jen's, Mary's excuse for disrespect because Jen smelt like a hospital ~ not because it brought back a bad memory of a loved one, but did I hear this right,  "Because she (Mary) was in the hospital for about a month (?) because of her leaking glands?" Is that what she said?  Somebody please feel free to correct me. I hope you're able to correct me.    The way she treats her own cousin, smdh ~ disgraceful !!!    Her taste in her own clothes, like the interior of her house is just hideous.  just no. I don't care if she's wearing Versace, YSL, Gucci, etc... she chooses the worst of their collection!   And then the obvious....I don't care if this grandpa isn't her own "blood", there's just lines that you don't cross- and the fact that her mother is livid because it should've been her? HER stepdad ?  WTH ??!!!  And then there's Brooks. What a horrible little bitch. 

My prediction for Mary: one and done. She is weird too. Why wasn't she cast first as "Friend Of" ?

Declined to film alot of stuff with the rest of the SLC cast. 

I think she wont be asked back. 

Plus, she may have opened herself up to quite a bit of financial /tax liability by exposing her home, purchases, and asset braggadocio.

I really don't get how preachers can have so much wealth and skirt the tax laws. Osteen, all of them.

Not to mention the ethics and morality of it all.  Sellin' Jesus without the personal sacrifice. 

 

Edited February 3, 2021 by Bossa Nova

[Stats Queen]

5 hours ago, KoKo said:

I think Mary is just creepy as hell on so many levels

Ain’t that the truth. Between her lavish lifestyle, the high end hoarding and her wigs/or hair that don’t seem to work, and her general oddness, it’s a no for me.
Then there is that whole non-christian thing of taking hard earned money from her parishioners to support her and her lifestyle. Some people work really hard to put food on the table for their family and then feel guilty if they don’t tithe the right amount (because they are real Christians). I find that so abhorrent and anathema to Jesus’s entire message.

[Shannah Banana]

5 hours ago, Bossa Nova said:

My prediction for Mary: one and done.

From your lips to God's ears.  Ha.

[Sage47]

Jen’s face in the reunion pic-and always-is scary AF. I can guarantee she has threatened to kill herself, or to poison Coach Shah if he even thinks of ever leaving her. Thus, there he is. There is no other explanation for them to still be married. 

I haven’t watched this crap show in weeks. I tuned in tonight and saw Meredith walking around in her Brooks Marks sweatsuit and almost rolled my eyes to another galaxy. Enough of trying to make that whining, shitty kid happen. 

Enough too of weirdo Mary who steals from her parishioners. ENOUGH of severely mentally ill and violent Jen Shah. Bravo, who is in charge of casting this show, AND RHOC which has also been unwatchable for two years? Fire those people now, gawd. 

Heather is looking prettier. I like Whitney’s shorter hair. That’s all I got. 

[Boo Boo]

It's actually refreshing that two grown women -- Meredith and Heather -- shut down the wannabe reality TV villain.  Well done.

[KoKo]

19 hours ago, Bossa Nova said:

My prediction for Mary: one and done. She is weird too. Why wasn't she cast first as "Friend Of" ?

Declined to film alot of stuff with the rest of the SLC cast. 

I think she wont be asked back. 

Plus, she may have opened herself up to quite a but of financial /tax liability by exposing her home, purchases, asset braggadocio.

I really don't get how preachers can have so much wealth and skirt the tax laws. Osteen, all of them.

Not to mention the ethics of it all.  

 

Agree !  100 %  !!  

I have a real problem with seeing these so-called preachers living in mansions, driving lamborghinis, etc.......while their congregation are barely making ends meet.  Don't get me started, lol......

[KoKo]

15 hours ago, Stats Queen said:

Ain’t that the truth. Between her lavish lifestyle, the high end hoarding and her wigs/or hair that don’t seem to work, and her general oddness, it’s a no for me.
Then there is that whole non-christian thing of taking hard earned money from her parishioners to support her and her lifestyle. Some people work really hard to put food on the table for their family and then feel guilty if they don’t tithe the right amount (because they are real Christians). I find that so abhorrent and anathema to Jesus’s entire message.

I couldn't agree with you more!!   I had visited a church a year or so ago ~  in an hour and half to two hours on Sunday morning,  15 minutes of it was the sermon. The rest was about tithing. Several were coming up to give testimonies as to how tithing affected them in a positive sense and how they were rewarded by material things.......is that the purpose of tithing?  It was so shocking and so off- putting, I never entered that church again.  

[bosawks]

I kind of think that Meredith having to wear a Brooks Marks “original” is punishment enough for any one person.

[ladle]

Stick a fork in it.  Jen is exhausting and this show is done.  

I have watched a lot of junky reality show in my day, but I finished watching this episode only -- and I mean only -- because I was feeding my baby at the time and couldn't get to the remote.