S13.E04: From One Surprise to Another

[TexasGal]

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Cynthia gets some tough love from Kenya after her big argument with Mike; Kenya feels bad about a past mistake and asks Kandi for help to make things right; Drew and Ralph start couples counseling; Porsha's sister, Lauren, throws a party.

Airdate 01.03.2021

[Keywestclubkid]

Really quiet in here lol 

[TexasGal]

That therapy session was just terrible.  So he just wants sex and not to feel emasculated.  He felt good that his mom finally thanked him after she got evicted.  You’re such a manly man.  Dick.

These women hugging people they’ve just met in the middle of a pandemic is making me super anxious.

I love Kandi’s hair at Porsha’s party!

 

[Axie]

I came here to say Drew and Ralph are ruining this show for me, but, now we have this party with all these people hugging and kissing.  What’s the point of wearing a mask one minute and then going to a mask less party the next?  I’m really having a problem caring about this season.

[Stats Queen]

Just starting watching and am watching yoga with YogiA (will we meet YogiB or Yogi the Bear at some point? 3 women, and only 2 of them at a time seemed to know their right from their left.

My opinion of Cynthia is in big downward spiral.

[Keywestclubkid]

Ugh Kenya .... 

[Axie]

Drew is now on WWHL.  She and Ralph must be major stockholders in Bravo to get this much airtime.

Edited January 4, 2021 by Axie

[Stats Queen]

So disturbed by people wearing just visors (no masks) that don’t even cover their mouth and barely cover their nose. 

I live in Metro Atlanta and the level of recklessness around here is appalling. 

Edited January 4, 2021 by Stats Queen

[Momager]

Why did Drew and her husband think that appearing on this show was a good idea? He consistently comes across as an asshole and she consistently looks like a damn fool for putting up with him. 

[Axie]

4 minutes ago, Momager said:

Why did Drew and her husband think that appearing on this show was a good idea? He consistently comes across as an asshole and she consistently looks like a damn fool for putting up with him. 

And, I’m consistently looking for something else to watch.

[Marley]

Ralph and Drew should divorce. There is nothing to save there. It seems like their relationship has always been garbage. Ralph is such a piece of shit too. He’s like sociopathic or something. Too bad they brought kids into that shitshow. They are getting way too much airtime too. They aren’t entertaining or fun to watch.

[Stats Queen]

So disturbed by people wearing just visors (no masks) that don’t even cover their mouth and barely cover their nose. 
 

I live in Metro Atlanta and the level for carelessness from healthy people who would most probably survive COVID and have minor symptoms is frustrating from someone who has been stuck a home for 10 months and who sees no end in sight, because their lives have been in convinced vs. others, like me, who are just existing because we don’t have a live.

More disturbing is that this is not the first time I’ve seen a female therapist on RH giving excuses for a jerk man’s behavior.

[Sheenieb]

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That therapy session was just terrible.  So he just wants sex and not to feel emasculated.  He felt good that his mom finally thanked him after she got evicted.  You’re such a manly man.  Dick.

That was very telling. I realized at that moment that Ralph likes to punish women. It makes him feel wanted and appreciated to see Drew squirm and get upset. He's taking his frustrations for his mother out on her. Drew recognized this as well. Their marriage is crumbling not only because he's an asshole, but because she's doing all of the work. It's interesting that he apparently had a relationship with his father who walked out on his family, but so far, we don't know  the status of his relationship with his mother. I'm also concerned about his relationship with his stepson. So many things to address!

Kenya just doesn't know how to hold on to goodwill. First her crack about Porsha protesting and getting arrested on camera, as if she's doing this solely for clout, and then saying "I want someone to throw me a party for all that I do." Ew, way to make this about you, Kenya. While I didn't blame Lauren for uninviting her, tacky as it was, I thought Cynthia was even worse in a way for even asking if it was OK to bring Kenya knowing that Kenya and Porsha aren't cool.

Riley is so rude. I've never liked her.

Edited January 4, 2021 by Sheenieb

[Stats Queen]

So I have major respect for Porsha’s activism and she earned my respect and admiration.

But then we have a party to celebrate what she did? It was a major production that I found disingenuous. Her actions should speak for themselves, but a party that was focused on Porsha herself felt very myopic.
I know it was COVID and they were trying to produce a show to entertain us at home. However, it seemed too much. Then of course, they weren’t quarantined together but were not masks and were hugging.

COVID, it doesn’t care if you are out fighting injustice or attending a political rally - it’s a virus and is apolitical and doesn’t discriminate- it will infect whoever it can, because it has one purpose.

Edited January 4, 2021 by Stats Queen

[ridethemaverick]

1 hour ago, Stats Queen said:

So I have major respect for Porsha’s activism and she earned my respect and admiration.

But then we have a party to celebrate what she did? It was a major production that I found disingenuous. Her actions should speak for themselves, but a party that was focused on Porsha herself felt very myopic.
I know it was COVID and they were trying to produce a show to entertain us at home. However, it seemed too much. Then of course, they weren’t quarantined together but were not masks and were hugging.

COVID, it doesn’t care if you are out fighting injustice or attending a political rally - it’s a virus and is apolitical and doesn’t discriminate- it will infect whoever it can, because it has one purpose.

She seemed to think it was weird, too, which makes me think she really didn't know it was happening. 

I think a welcome home party would have been less awkward.

[Marley]

Yea I was about to be all wtf about that party for Porsha but she seemed to think it was weird and maybe was a bit embarrassed by it. 

Marlo should’ve got a peach over Drew. I feel like it would’ve been more entertaining.

[Pearson80]

Kenya is just awful full stop.   I always knew that Kenya and Porsha being polite and friendly to each other after they had their daughters would not last because of Kenya.  Kenya believes she is superior to Porsha and will never big up Porsha for anything that she does.  She has to always find a way to belittle her to make herself feel good.  Her rants on twitter against Porsha are disgusting..  I would think as a Black woman she would be proud of Porsha's activism but she is so filled with hatred bitterness and jealousy over any woman who does something successful. I absolutely loathe Kenya...

Edited January 4, 2021 by Pearson80

[Axie]

Judging from the number of posts, either very few of us are watching, or, it’s so boring, no one has much to say.

[nexxie]

I always thought Pilar looked like Dennis, but maybe not...

 

[Adgirl]

Drew and Ralph are one of those couples that "play fight" in front of friends and make everyone feel awkward. I say that because only a couple with that mindset could have come on a show this big to show all the cracks in their relationship.

What's up with production becoming part of the show?

Edited January 5, 2021 by Adgirl

[NowVoyager]

Porsha Luther King is everything! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

Riley is in that late brat stage. I didn't grow up with her advantages or her pain from her absentee father. Yet, I remember calling home freshman year of college & apologizing. Maybe a good dose of real life will help her get it together.

Cynthia-zilla is slowly coming around.

Kenya's been very entertaining this season. But, lezzzz----be honest about her relationship with Latoya.... Latoya's skin is so pretty! Was she really a stripper? I'm wondering if Latoya was in the room at the bachelorette party.

Sick of Drew & the husband-beast & I hate the therapist. I keep looking at the kids.... & I'm just gone say it: the baby girl looks like both parents; the boys look exactly alike, but like neither parent. But, the eldest has a different father?

[Chatty Cake]

Kenya can never be happy or proud of anyone else. I’m not sure why she’s on this season. I don’t think Lauren should have uninvited her though. 
Latoya was rude to Farryn for no reason commenting on her husbands age. She must have heard of her before. 
Drew and her husband are not enjoyable to watch. I want to see a fun couple who enjoys being together. 

[luckyroll3]

10 hours ago, Stats Queen said:

More disturbing is that this is not the first time I’ve seen a female therapist on RH giving excuses for a jerk man’s behavior.

I noticed this too. Ralph shares that he's been emotionally manipulating women, and being successful at it, since childhood, and the therapist turns to Drew and asks her if she has apologized yet for forcing him to leave, instead of checking him for using leaving as a tactic to get his way? Like WTF?!?!  And then there's Drew on WWHL talking about how great he is because he's just surprised her and the kids with a beach vacation and his "impromptu" Tampa trip was the only time he's actually left because that one time he booked a plane ticket to LAX, went to the airport, and got off the plane at the last minute so that he could tell her he could have gone if he really wanted to didn't count. Girl run!

[Baltimore Betty]

10 hours ago, Sheenieb said:

Riley is so rude. I've never liked her.

I have never been a fan, she seems uncomfortable in her own skin but mostly I got the vibe that she really did not want to be on camera.  

 

[nexxie]

Lauren’s instincts were good - she just let Cynthia talk her into something temporarily. Kenya has a need to ruin others’ happy moments and actually had been throwing shade at Porsha’s good trouble behind her back. But Kenya sure did show her true self when she snapped at the producers and said someone was going to pay for her hair and makeup - I feel for her, given her horrible mother and husband, but she needs way more therapy.

[Keywestclubkid]

Kenya needs to take several seats with her attacking anyone doing a protest ...at least they are out there trying to make a change. what the fuck is she doing other then looking like a hater?

[Cosmocrush]

2 hours ago, nexxie said:

Lauren’s instincts were good - she just let Cynthia talk her into something temporarily. Kenya has a need to ruin others’ happy moments and actually had been throwing shade at Porsha’s good trouble behind her back. But Kenya sure did show her true self when she snapped at the producers and said someone was going to pay for her hair and makeup - I feel for her, given her horrible mother and husband, but she needs way more therapy.

I agree but I don't feel for Kenya at all.  She's long past the age when she needs to be responsible for her own behavior.  She has a long history of trying to tear other people down.   The thing with the producers is exactly the kind of behavior I would expect - Kenya never cared about celebrating Porsha - only camera time.

And Kenya trashing Porsha for speaking at an outdoor protest without a mask - while dining indoors two feet from Kandi was ridiculous. 

Edited January 4, 2021 by Cosmocrush

[dosodog]

More Falynn!  Less Toya.

 

[qtpye]

2 hours ago, nexxie said:

Lauren’s instincts were good - she just let Cynthia talk her into something temporarily. Kenya has a need to ruin others’ happy moments and actually had been throwing shade at Porsha’s good trouble behind her back. But Kenya sure did show her true self when she snapped at the producers and said someone was going to pay for her hair and makeup - I feel for her, given her horrible mother and husband, but she needs way more therapy.

I thought it was rude of Cynthia to ask Lauren to bring Kenya. Cynthia knows how Kenya is like and that she does not have a good history with Porsha. Heck, Kenya has to pretend her party for Cynthia is being thrown by Kandi, otherwise no one would come.

Maybe, it's time for Kenya to take a look at herself.

I think she is a little jealous that Porsha has the legacy of her grandfather and that Porsha is surrounded by such loving family.

[SuburbanHangSuite]

I'm glad Lauren followed her instincts and told Cynthia to drop her hateful plus one.  And Kandi was absolutely correct in pointing out that if Kenya was so quick to shade Porsha's activism, then she had no business being a part of the event.  That's all I got.  Except for this:  We need to contract out hair and makeup for backyard gatherings now?  🤔

[byrd]

On 1/2/2021 at 11:55 AM, TexasGal said:

Airdate 01.03.2021

I m already bored as hell with this season !! Just not feeling it yet, it's not the same flavor..

[byrd]

16 hours ago, Pearson80 said:

Kenya is just awful full stop.   I always knew that Kenya and Porsha being polite and friendly to each other after they had their daughters would not last because of Kenya.  Kenya believes she is superior to Porsha and will never big up Porsha for anything that she does.  She has to always find a way to belittle her to make herself feel good.  Her rants on twitter against Porsha are disgusting..  I would think as a Black woman she would be proud of Porsha's activism but she is so filled with hatred bitterness and jealousy over any woman who does something successful. I absolutely loathe Kenya...

Misery loves company . Kenya life is so jacked up, she can't sincerely be happy for anyone else.

[nexxie]

imo introducing three new cast members at once takes away the comfortable familiarity of shows like this - not sure why Bravo thought this was a good idea. Also, I’d rather have Lauren, Marlo and Tanya get a peach.

Edited January 4, 2021 by nexxie

[Rlb8031]

14 minutes ago, byrd said:

I m already bored as hell with this season !! Just not feeling it yet, it's not the same flavor..

Do you think part of this is a result of the pandemic? I'm thinking that part of the issue is some of this feels very forced and non-organic.

[Caseysgirl]

I have to say, all these franchises are feeling stale and generic.  I think I must be over the Housewives because this is the third one that I have no interest in whatsoever.  And though I never actually liked a lot of them, without the OG’s most of these show feel particularly lifeless.

[Mr. Miner]

That Ralph is a loathsome POS! Huh? 🖕🏻

[howiveaddict]

7 hours ago, qtpye said:

I thought it was rude of Cynthia to ask Lauren to bring Kenya. Cynthia knows how Kenya is like and that she does not have a good history with Porsha. Heck, Kenya has to pretend her party for Cynthia is being thrown by Kandi, otherwise no one would come.

Maybe, it's time for Kenya to take a look at herself.

I think she is a little jealous that Porsha has the legacy of her grandfather and that Porsha is surrounded by such loving family.

We sure don't see anyone throwing a party for Kenya, do we?

I can see why Lauren did not want Kenya there.  Last season Kenya lied about being there for when either Lauren or Shamea went into labor. Kenya said she was the first one called I think. This was at Porsha's fundraiser for March of Dimes.  Kenya had to have the attention on her.  

Kenya is a miserable person.

 

[Cosmocrush]

6 hours ago, Rlb8031 said:

Do you think part of this is a result of the pandemic? I'm thinking that part of the issue is some of this feels very forced and non-organic.

This is a good point and I think you're on to something here.   It does feel forced.   Maybe it's because I live in the PNW where everyone I know has forgone daily social life for almost 10 months - working from home, grocery pick up, Zoom bookclubs etc.  Maybe it feels forced because there are so many new women that this "group" isn't much of a group.   Most of them barely know each other.  

Edited January 5, 2021 by Cosmocrush

[Vanderboom]

I also think that this season is dragging because it's lost the balance between drama and fun. I know it's hard to find the fun in these Covid Times, but watching terrible marriages implode is definitely not the way to go. I felt bad for Kenya in the first episode this season, but I'm over it now. It's as if she was offended that people expect her to be shitty after she has treated people shittily. Her sour-grapes response didn't help, but it was nice to tread familiar Housewife ground over party invitations.

[byrd]

20 hours ago, Caseysgirl said:

I have to say, all these franchises are feeling stale and generic.  I think I must be over the Housewives because this is the third one that I have no interest in whatsoever.  And though I never actually liked a lot of them, without the OG’s most of these show feel particularly lifeless.

Absolutely agree ! I believe the OG's should have their own Housewives show 

[lasu]

Drew's husband makes me want to puke.  His name is Ralph, man.

 

 

Edited January 5, 2021 by lasu
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[ButterQueen]

That gift Kenya sent to Porsha’s daughter....😂😂😂.....first we see the doll in the nice box; then Porsha opens it and it appears to be in an Amazon cardboard box....with janky wrapping.  I loved Porsha for not opening it all the way when she saw the box.

Kenya is horrible.  
 

I hated seeing the ladies being so close at the party without masks.

[For Cereals]

Drew and her husband need to be one and done.  He seems like he will snap one day.  I would rather see Falynn’s house porn.

Riley, those street smarts paid for your nose and your lifestyle.  That said, she’s still young.  I see her as being very introverted and awkward.

Talk about rude, I hope the producers put Cynthia up to the gift presentation and lamenting Kenya’s absence at Porsha’s party.

Latoya can also go.

 

[Stats Queen]

12 hours ago, Vanderboom said:

I also think that this season is dragging because it's lost the balance between drama and fun. I know it's hard to find the fun in these Covid Times, but watching terrible marriages implode is definitely not the way to go. I felt bad for Kenya in the first episode this season, but I'm over it now. It's as if she was offended that people expect her to be shitty after she has treated people shittily. Her sour-grapes response didn't help, but it was nice to tread familiar Housewife ground over party invitations.

I have always watched the RH franchise and other reality TV to shows to escape from my life - to make me laugh, stop thinking and to live another day.

Prior to COVID, this show was becoming awful. It no longer turned my brain off and made me laugh, it was just so nasty and so rude and the silly, stupid, nastiness and vapidness of it sucked all the joy of original brilliance of these shows. I shouldn’t wake up the next day still thinking about this crap, I have actual work and my own real life to deal with.

That being said, it is a reality show and if we are being real, COVID and George Floyd cannot be ignored, because all of this is too real. I actually think the producers did a good job of balancing these realities with some welcome silliness. That is actually not my issue.

What I didn’t need was to see women in awful marriages with aholes being marginalized by so called female therapists telling a female that her husband being a disgusting human being is her problem. 
I lived that and don’t need triggers from almost 30 years ago - thank you Bravo, you just suck. I haven’t been triggered in over 10 years, so there’s that.

Can anyone recommend some reality TV shows to replace this dreck?

[swankie]

On 1/3/2021 at 10:01 PM, Sheenieb said:

While I didn't blame Lauren for uninviting her, tacky as it was, 

I didn't think it was tacky considering she didn't invite Kenya, Cynthia did.  Should she have said no when Cynthia asked if she could bring Kenya as her plus one?  Yes!  But I don't consider what Lauren did as rescinding an invitation since she never invited Kenya in the first place.  To me Cynthia is to blame.  If someone purposely chooses not to invite someone, it's in really bad taste to bring that person as your plus one.  

[qtpye]

3 hours ago, swankie said:

I didn't think it was tacky considering she didn't invite Kenya, Cynthia did.  Should she have said no when Cynthia asked if she could bring Kenya as her plus one?  Yes!  But I don't consider what Lauren did as rescinding an invitation since she never invited Kenya in the first place.  To me Cynthia is to blame.  If someone purposely chooses not to invite someone, it's in really bad taste to bring that person as your plus one.  

Lauren has said in other outlets that she told Cynthia way ahead of party not to bring Kenya. It was Cynthia who waited till Kenya was in hair/makeup (the last minute) to break the news. 

[luckyroll3]

13 hours ago, For Cereals said:

Talk about rude, I hope the producers put Cynthia up to the gift presentation and lamenting Kenya’s absence at Porsha’s party.

My first thought was producer interference.  

4 hours ago, qtpye said:

Lauren has said in other outlets that she told Cynthia way ahead of party not to bring Kenya. It was Cynthia who waited till Kenya was in hair/makeup (the last minute) to break the news. 

I don't doubt that this was also the producers at work here.  It's why Kenya immediately broke the 4th wall to ask, because she knew it as well. She should have just let it go, because all she did was made herself look worse talking about who needs to pay for her glam. 

[goofygirl]

Well, Stats Queen, there's Love After Lockup (Friday nights).  It's ALWAYS good for a laugh or twenty!

[Stats Queen]

9 hours ago, goofygirl said:

Well, Stats Queen, there's Love After Lockup (Friday nights).  It's ALWAYS good for a laugh or twenty!

Thanks for the recommendation 😍

[Lynnlynnlynn586]

On 1/8/2021 at 10:15 AM, goofygirl said:

Well, Stats Queen, there's Love After Lockup (Friday nights).  It's ALWAYS good for a laugh or twenty!

I was going to suggest that one also lol