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At nearly 1000 pounds, Samantha is dangerously close to dying.  To make matters worse, she's paid to eat by making videos online. If Samantha doesn't overcome her toxic relationship with food, she worries that she will leave her daughter motherless.

Welcome back, Pounder!  Season 9 starts with Samantha, a woman tipping the scales at close to 1,000 pounds who makes a living through eating.  Let's see where this season takes us.

Original air date 2020.12.30

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Samantha does online porn involving food and exposing herself. She also consumes a tremendous amount of medical resources in the midst of the pandemic. In addition to killing herself, Samantha seems eager to ruin her daughters life. She is, however, articulate but otherwise completely unsympathetic. 

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So the ending self-filmed part was some kind of fake wasn't it?   Filters or something?   She looked like she weighed 100 lbs max, and was 12.   There's no way that's the way she looks in real life.  

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Just now, CrazyInAlabama said:

So the ending self-filmed part was some kind of fake wasn't it?   Filters or something?   She looked like she weighed 100 lbs max, and was 12.   There's no way that's the way she looks in real life.  

Check out vanilla hippo on YouTube. She explains where she is now.

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1. Initially I kind of liked her. She's articulate, intelligent and seemed completely aware of her situation and what she needed to change. However...

2. Her BS 140 lb (!!!!!) weight gain in the hospital??!?!? What??????

3. Her ordering garbage food every chance she got???

4. Her poor daughter. She seemed sweet, caring and is super cute. Although, I see her mom's bad habits being passed down.

5. My take: This whole thing was to sell her food eating porn site and YouTube channel.

6. In the end....a complete waste of time. (Loved the hottie Denver doc though.)

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1 hour ago, CrazyInAlabama said:

So the ending self-filmed part was some kind of fake wasn't it?   Filters or something?   She looked like she weighed 100 lbs max, and was 12.   There's no way that's the way she looks in real life.  

She used filters to film herself.  And wtf, she worked too hard?   She sat in a hospital bed and lost weight in a controlled environment.

She was whiny and dramatic and tried to make up reasons why she ate too much. She loved to eat and was addicted to food pretty much sums it up.  So stop whining about feeling like shit.  Two choices, either go on a diet and feel good or continue to eat 10,000 calories a day and feel lousy.  

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Wow, Samantha's mother and sister have obviously written her off and are counting the days. I'm with 'em 100%. 

How does Samantha afford all that food? And to send her daughter to college? The "person" is just a barnacle on society. And what are the mechanics of such a mountainous person getting preggers?

Does it ever occur to these people to eat a little less? It's also fascinating that they all have the time and devotion for elaborate hair, makeup, and nails. Her daughter is remarkable and kind, and I wish she'd just turn her back as well. The kid also needs to get her weight in check or here we go again.

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It finally dawned on me why she lost so much in the hospital the last time.     She went in about the time of the Covid lockdown in Colorado, stayed five months and lost hundreds of pounds.    Once lockdown happened there were no visitors, and no food deliveries.    Once she couldn't have thousands of calories a day delivered, then she dropped weight very quickly.   Then at the rehab center, I bet there was the same lockdown, so six months, with rehab, of no deliveries.     

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And was the video she posted filtered, with a light ring, and altered?  It was on You tube.   It certainly looked like it.    Also, she had 27 lbs. of stomach excess skin removed, but I bet that was also after more restrictions in visitors.   

Also, I've read that the fetish website actresses make a lot of money, and it's all off the books, so it's pure profit.  

I hope her daughter graduated, and went off to her own life.       I thought Samantha said college, but I bet it was just graduating, at least she finished high school, which was better than her mother did.    Whatever, I hope the daughter makes her own life, and doesn't get caught in the cesspool of her mother's pathetic life.  

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So much to unpack. I started out liking Samantha. She seemed intelligent and her home was clean. Watching her place her food on her stomach to eat was a first, and the way she ate her breakfast, one bite of each sandwich at a time, wow! Wanted to scream when she said food was her life, your child is supposed to be your life. At the end, no sympathy for her. She was/is a leech on society and had so many chances. First episode in a long time that I had trouble watching, and I survived all Assanti bros episodes.

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So is her food fetish show actually supposed to be sexually stimulating (to weirdos)?  Or is it more like an old time freak show? I thought it was funny that she ate a meal before she got out the carrot cake to do her show. Also, Samantha, 'Vanilla Hippo'? You flatter yourself. 'Vanilla Jabba' would be more descriptive.

 

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Only look at Vanilla Hippo's photos or videos if you have a strong stomach.       I'm not talking about her You Tube channel, just the porn site videos.    

I think Samantha is another poundticipant who could lose all of the weight, and keep it off forever, and still be the same selfish, entitled person underneath.     She had zero redeeming qualities.    It makes me angry that she occupied a private room (I'm guessing because of the infection, but partially for filming), during Covid, and for five full months, and another in rehab.    I noticed the last time they showed her room, it had a double door, and was much wider than the usual hospital doors.      

I wouldn't be surprised to see her sign on with the lawsuit, she sounds like the other 10 or 11 who have.  

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Vanilla Hippo has a TikTok. She posted a video last night about how, during that episode, she was at her "lowest and darkest moments of her life" which were recorded and put on TV to exploit her" And that people are "cruel." 

Samantha's a jerk. 

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15 hours ago, Giant Misfit said:

You’re welcome, everyone! 
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Wanted to share this here for those who don't read the live chat.  Vanilla Hippo in all her glory!  This was after she bitched about them leaving her in her own filth.  The nurses get so much credit for staying pleasant when Samantha snapped at them.  I am yet again astonished by the physical flexibility of some of these folks. Of course, they are as inflexible as possible when it comes to how they demand to be treated, treat others and what they want to eat. 

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7 minutes ago, PrincessPurrsALot said:
16 hours ago, Giant Misfit said:

You’re welcome, everyone! 
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Wanted to share this here for those who don't read the live chat.  Vanilla Hippo in all her glory!  This was after she bitched about them leaving her in her own filth.  The nurses get so much credit for staying pleasant when Samantha snapped at them.  I am yet again astonished by the physical flexibility of some of these folks. Of course, they are as inflexible as possible when it comes to how they demand to be treated, treat others and what they want to eat. 

OMG. I only watched and joined the Live Chat with about 25 minutes left in the show so I missed this gem. No words. 

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Well, that was two hours I'll never get back. What a waste of (tons of) skin this bitch is. Lazy, entitled, and awful. Not nearly enough Dr. Now to make this episode even a tiny bit interesting. 

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She reminded me of Penny, the way she held her fingers while she ate.  Oh, if I eat in a dainty way it will deflect that I am consuming 15,000 calories a day.

I wonder which show smells worse, 600 lb Life or Hoarders?

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2 hours ago, hookedontv said:

Vanilla Hippo has a TikTok. She posted a video last night about how, during that episode, she was at her "lowest and darkest moments of her life" which were recorded and put on TV to exploit her" And that people are "cruel." 

Samantha's a jerk. 

That makes me feel so much better about my immense dislike of her. She had no redeemable qualities, at all, and I have no well wishes for her.

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She lost hundreds of pounds when she had no choice. She was locked in a hospital and fed a specific diet.  When she is released to the wild, she will likely again wallow in the mud, er, consume mass quantities of food on camera for money.  We saw no attitude change or real desire to change her habits.  But hey, now that I've ordered enough food for a family of ten, what would you kids like? 

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5 hours ago, CrazyInAlabama said:

It finally dawned on me why she lost so much in the hospital the last time.     She went in about the time of the Covid lockdown in Colorado, stayed five months and lost hundreds of pounds.    Once lockdown happened there were no visitors, and no food deliveries.    Once she couldn't have thousands of calories a day delivered, then she dropped weight very quickly.   Then at the rehab center, I bet there was the same lockdown, so six months, with rehab, of no deliveries.     

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And was the video she posted filtered, with a light ring, and altered?  It was on You tube.   It certainly looked like it.    Also, she had 27 lbs. of stomach excess skin removed, but I bet that was also after more restrictions in visitors.    

I hope her daughter graduated, and went off to her own life.       Something's off on the timeline.   If the daughter was graduating college, even an associates two year degree,   If her daughter is 20-22 and Samantha's 35, then how is having her at 17 or after possible? 

She said her daughter was 18 years old.  I doubt that girl will ever see the inside of a college.  

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4 hours ago, Bluesky said:

She said her daughter was 18 years old.  I doubt that girl will ever see the inside of a college.  

Sorry about that when Samantha said her daughter was graduating, I assumed something besides high school.    I hope her daughter makes her own life, and doesn't get sucked into her mother's awful life.   

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30 minutes ago, magemaud said:

 

Is it still a Caesar salad if you put ranch dressing on it? Asking for a friend 

We’ve had this debate in my house before, lol. Pretty sure it’s not.

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2 hours ago, AZChristian said:

NOTHING is partially eaten in a 600-pounder's house, nor is it allowed to get old.

I would bet that carrot sticks or a stalk of broccoli would completely decompose in her refrigerator before it ever got touched.  I can feel sympathy for a lot of these people, but Samantha was just exhausting.  She also kept saying "to be honest", which is a dead giveaway that someone is lying.

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My guess was last night was an attempt to get more followers for her various online sites.    I see zero chance that Samantha will be a success long term. 

Too bad the adorable doctor in Denver did the surgery, I really was hoping Samantha would be hauled to Houston in the back of a rental moving truck, rolling around on a mattress.    

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Exhausting is an understatement! The only thing that impressed me about Samantha was that she was able to get her legs up in the air so the poor nurses and other hospital staff could clean her urine-soaked bed. 

If Samantha makes her living doing food porn (I can’t bring myself to look at her videos), there’s little chance for long-term weight loss.  I doubt she wants to venture out into the real world to earn a living like normal people do. 

Too much Samantha and too little Dr Now. 

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38 minutes ago, CrazyInAlabama said:

  I see zero chance that Samantha will be a success long term. 

The way she's going, I don't see that she'll have a very long term.

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5 hours ago, CrazyInAlabama said:

Sorry about that when Samantha said her daughter was graduating, I assumed something besides high school.    I hope her daughter makes her own life, and doesn't get sucked into her mother's awful life.   

I watched this today as someone in the household was watching the Cotton Bowl last night.   I think her reference to seeing her daughter graduate from college was a goal she wanted to achieve before she ate herself to death.  At some point during filming Samantha had a birthday, because she referred to herself as 36.  In the intro she is 35.  The daughter was 18.  The girl's boyfriend Ivan seemed nice, but I felt sorry for both of them living in that small apartment with her bed and potty in the living area 

I was annoyed when she talked about how hard she worked, although I think there is a standard script they get from TLC and then they fill in the blanks in parts of it.   Her weight loss was mostly passive--she was in either a hospital or rehab setting where she got no excess food.  I will give her credit for working with the PT person, but she didn't seem willing to do the work with the therapist.

I am not sure how she will adapt her youtube program if she successfully loses and maintains it which I am not optimistic about.  Won't her viewers just gravitate to another super obese person doing food porn.   I have no clue how much these people make. 

I think this was one of the most boring episodes ever.  That is possibly due to COVID but I see this person as one of the ones who never loses enough to get to Houston.  Or arrives just as the show is about to end.   I hope there are a few successes in the next episodes.

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What really amazed me is that most of the people we see on the show have been obese since childhood. When your kid is over 200 pounds in elementary school, there is a problem. 
Why aren’t these problems addressed early? 

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55 minutes ago, PradaKitty said:

What really amazed me is that most of the people we see on the show have been obese since childhood. When your kid is over 200 pounds in elementary school, there is a problem. 
Why aren’t these problems addressed early? 

Abusive dad who didn't give a shit, mom working, and having no time for her.

Here's what she would have had to eat to gain 140lbs in six weeks:

1 lb of fat=3500 calories.

140 lbs x 3500cals= 490,000 cals.

490,000 cals/45 days = 10,888 cals a DAY.

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Two comments:

This  episode was boooooorrrrring. 

Is it my imagination,  or did daughter  Bella  appear to have gained weight over the year?

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1 hour ago, PradaKitty said:

What really amazed me is that most of the people we see on the show have been obese since childhood. When your kid is over 200 pounds in elementary school, there is a problem. 
Why aren’t these problems addressed early? 

I agree!  The weight doesn't appear instantly!  Before you're 800 lbs, you're 700 lbs, before 700 lbs, you're 600 lbs and on it goes.  If the school didn't report Samantha's exponential weight gain year after year (there are health records) that would indicate someone "dropped the ball." A child who is becoming more and more morbidly obese is definitely a health issue that should be addressed by some school agency.  Child abuse comes in many forms and it's fair to assume that the MASSIVE amount of health resources given to Samantha on the show were not created in a vacuum!  Her weight is her responsibility as an adult; however, it is her parent's responsibility to care for her while she's still a child!  This was a very sad situation!!

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7 hours ago, AZChristian said:

Most people don't gag when they meet a 600-pounder.  Many gag on Hoarders.  Plus, 600-pounders probably don't have outdated or partially eaten plates of food in their house.  NOTHING is partially eaten in a 600-pounder's house, nor is it allowed to get old.

That's my answer to your question.  LOL.

When she was plopping her ass down to take a shit in the living room at the new apartment, Bella said something like “I’m leaving the room before I vomit.” 

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10 hours ago, pdlinda said:

I agree!  The weight doesn't appear instantly!  Before you're 800 lbs, you're 700 lbs, before 700 lbs, you're 600 lbs and on it goes.  If the school didn't report Samantha's exponential weight gain year after year (there are health records) that would indicate someone "dropped the ball." A child who is becoming more and more morbidly obese is definitely a health issue that should be addressed by some school agency.  Child abuse comes in many forms and it's fair to assume that the MASSIVE amount of health resources given to Samantha on the show were not created in a vacuum!  Her weight is her responsibility as an adult; however, it is her parent's responsibility to care for her while she's still a child!  This was a very sad situation!!

Too bad Dr. Phil didn't see Samantha when she was 200 pounds in elementary school.  He's a mandated reporter (as he reminds on almost every show), and he would have had that child out of the house "before the sun sets TONIGHT" . . . 

I agree, though . . . someone "dropped the ball" for this child.

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1 hour ago, AZChristian said:

Too bad Dr. Phil didn't see Samantha when she was 200 pounds in elementary school.  He's a mandated reporter (as he reminds on almost every show), and he would have had that child out of the house "before the sun sets TONIGHT" . . . 

Our tax-funded social services providers don't even protect actual beaten children from their parent(s), if you've paid attention to the news stories about kids killed after being briefly removed, then returned to their abuser. That's at least partly due to the shortage of foster homes, of course, which would be exacerbated by adding fat kids to the group needing fostering.

I think you'd also run into cultural/racial issues, as there are definitely communities with a far greater tolerance-even approval- of childhood (and adult) obesity.

 

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8 minutes ago, sempervivum said:

Our tax-funded social services providers don't even protect actual beaten children from their parent(s), if you've paid attention to the news stories about kids killed after being briefly removed, then returned to their abuser.

Yes . . . which is why I laugh out loud when Dr. Phil gets on his "mandated reporter" high horse and says he's going to have a child removed "before the sun sets tonight."  We've had enough interaction with social services to know that children are NOT removed for most of the reasons Dr. Phil thinks they should be.  

I apologize . . . my sarcasm apparently didn't come through.

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I don't think Samantha is worse than the other pounticipants we've seen.  She ticks all the boxes of the poundticipants, sure:  sneaks food, disgusting body put on display for purposes of hygiene, no insight, inability to follow through once she's out of controlled environment--but that's the way they almost all are, isn't it?   It's maddening to see these guys unable to make the connection between eating less and losing weight, but that's part of their situation (I don't know whether you could call it a sickness, or an addiction, or what; it's certainly some kind of emotional disorder, and her refusal to participate fully in psychotherapy is a big black mark against her).

I was so pleased to see the supportive attitude of her (anorexic?) sister to news that she was going to try WLS.

Honestly, I found Samantha a lot more likable than many of the favorites discussed her.  Maybe it's the fact that she's found a way to turn a negative into a way to support herself.

I do wonder about what, if anything, she revealed to the therapist.  They usually show at least a hint of the trauma underlying the eating.  Maybe therapists in CO have higher professional standards than the ones in TX.

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My opinion of Samantha is pretty much in line with the general consensus I see in the above posts. I didn't care for her from the beginning as, to me, she came across that her opinion of herself is that she is much too smart to be in this situation

. What irritated me the most was when she kept saying that she needs to be here for BELLA. She needed to add to that "for BELLA to be around to spend the rest of my life taking care of my every need and whim. She will wipe my big ass, clean my folds, procure my food, clean my house, and generally tie herself to me forever. Thank God I had a child!"

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1 hour ago, Mothra said:

I am surprised about the violently negative reactions here to Samantha.  She ticks all the boxes of the poundticipants, sure:  sneaks food, disgusting body put on display for purposes of hygiene, no insight, inability to follow through once she's out of controlled environment--but that's the way they almost all are, isn't it?   It's maddening to see these guys unable to make the connection between eating less and losing weight, but that's part of their situation (I don't know whether you could call it a sickness, or an addiction, or what; it's certainly some kind of emotional disorder, and her refusal to participate fully in psychotherapy is a big black mark against her).

Agree. I thought she was realistic about her situation. She flat out admits she is a burden to society after calling an ambulance (which could have been performative, of course). She needs therapy bad for her food addiction. And how do you gain 140 pounds???

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What bothered me about Samantha was her disingenuousness. She seemed very fake. She appeared to be repeating a script that she thought we all wanted to hear. At times her daughter seemed to have trouble containing a laugh or smile, like she was in on the joke or the scheme. Something was not right about this episode. 

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I both fully understand that she has a mental disorder and dislike her greatly.  I feel for all of the poundticipants.  They have major issues to work through and have done severe harm to themselves, often because of severe harm that was done to them in their youth.  At the same time, I also distinguish between the ones who really seem to understand that they are hurting those around them and those that seem to revel in the attention their size and related issues garner. 

Samantha seems like a very unhappy person who tries to claim she is happy.  She did find a way to make a living from being obese.  However, she also seems to abuse the services that she bemoaned needing.  The EMTs and firefighters treated her like she is a frequent flyer.  One said something along the lines of nice to see you again.  She was content laying in the hospital and ordering extra food because the quality and portions of the hospital food weren't up to her standards.  That is not showing the gratitude she claims she shows to others; it is acting as if others exist to bend to her whims.

Her family seemed very cautiously supportive.  I think they've been here before and like many of us on the board doubt her true desire to change.  There is also an attitude we have seen repeated among several of the unsuccessful poundticipants of how much their family needs them.  The martyrdom is very strong.  How much is Samantha providing to her family? How much is she wanting from them?  I think I know which way that scale tips. 

We all, at times, need more from others than we can give.  There is no shame in that.  There is a problem if we demand so much from others and give little to nothing in return when we are capable of giving something. Her daughter and her daughter's BF are lucky Sam even remembered to ask if they wanted anything to eat.  She snapped at the nurses who were caring for her as if it was their fault she had gotten so large she couldn't get up to go to the bathroom.  She swung between the show of horror/extreme need with the firefighters and flirting.  She ticks all of the boxes of someone who has deep seated issues that also has no problem actively harming others. 

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22 hours ago, magemaud said:

Is it still a Caesar salad if you put ranch dressing on it? Asking for a friend 

It is if you eat it in Rome the Ides of March and afterwards a friend stabs you. 

So Samantha was horrible and I don't know how she and other heathens live with the psychological abuse they inflict on their kids.

How many people would give their right leg to have a loving daughter like she's got, and she won't give up Chili's baby back ribs?  Bella if you're reading this we'll adopt you. 

 

 

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4 hours ago, AZChristian said:

Yes . . . which is why I laugh out loud when Dr. Phil gets on his "mandated reporter" high horse and says he's going to have a child removed "before the sun sets tonight."  We've had enough interaction with social services to know that children are NOT removed for most of the reasons Dr. Phil thinks they should be.  

I worked on the defense side of the criminal justice system for many years and I can say with utmost authority that the courts will prioritize ABOVE ALL ELSE the bio family remaining INTACT REGARDLESS of how atrocious a "normal person" presents the level of abuse toward the child in the bio family home!  MANY, if not most of the defendants I worked with were hooked on illegal drugs to cope with the extreme emotional/physical trauma of child abuse/neglect they suffered as children.  Their "parents" did not have the interest/awareness/resources to seek out social service resources for their young children due to the parents' own issues/problems!  That's how so many criminal defendants entered and constantly cycle in and out of jail/prison.

In the case of our pounticipants, their "drug of choice" is obviously food and food is not illegal so they are spared the indignity and emotional/physical ruin experienced by most of the defendants I worked with over the years.  However, it doesn't make the abuse they suffered any less damaging as is graphically demonstated by such as Samantha!

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3 hours ago, lilysmom said:

What irritated me the most was when she kept saying that she needs to be here for BELLA. She needed to add to that "for BELLA to be around to spend the rest of my life taking care of my every need and whim. She will wipe my big ass, clean my folds, procure my food, clean my house, and generally tie herself to me forever. Thank God I had a child!"

Bella didn't live with her, so she wasn't responsible for helping her get up, get dressed, bathe her, toilet her, or feed her, as most of the really, really obese people here have their children doing.  Bella seemed to have her own life.  It seems odd that she would say she had to be there for Bella, since there wasn't that daily, parasitic relationship, but Bella did say (iirc) that her mother was her best friend.  It is hard for me to see how Samantha's death would have a lot of impact on Bella's life, beyond the normal grief anyone would experience over losing a parent.  IOW, it seems to me that either of them could get along fine if the other were not there.

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On 1/1/2021 at 12:25 PM, Mothra said:

I do wonder about what, if anything, she revealed to the therapist.  They usually show at least a hint of the trauma underlying the eating.  Maybe therapists in CO have higher professional standards than the ones in TX.

She was doing phone call sessions with Lola.  I'm betting lots of letters to dead Dad were involved in her therapy.   Dr. Now said that after he was talking to Dr. Cutie Pie in Denver about Samantha's case. It was part of the sound track that was hard to figure out.   I only caught it because I put the closed captions on.    

There is no way CPS or anyone else would have intervened with Samantha and her siblings.    There are much worse abuse cases, and no one does anything, even now.   Back then, CPS probably wouldn't even have made a visit.     

 

 

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What a waste of space Samantha is. Her forcing that mental stress on her daughter pisses me off. I’m so sick of the excuse of a “bad childhood” .... what is she whining about? Her father tried to get her weight under control but she did what she wanted anyways. I don’t mean to discredit anyone claiming abuse but I wanna know what these people’s definition of abuse is, because if it’s  being told NO to unlimited amounts of oreo’s that’s not abuse.  Samantha said she lived with her dad for 1 year when she was 5? She can’t let shit that happened when she was 5 go?  Really?

I don’t believe a word Dr. Phil says. He’s proven time and time again that he has no idea what goes on in the CPS  system these days,and how overwhelmed local agencies are.  I’d you don’t believe me watch the Netflix documentary Trials of Gabriel Fernandez, a little boy that was killed by his Mother and her BF, after years of being locked in a cabinet, where he was beaten handcuffed,gagged,starved, no bathroom, forced to watch them have sex, the list goes on. This little boy still went to school everyday covered in bruises and didn’t whine as much as Samantha. CPS had atleast 5 known chances to help the boy and did nothing. So Dr. Phil can shut up with his holier than thou attitude. 

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