pdlinda

I'm with you 100% on that conclusion. It seems they have enough material in those old shows to "slice and dice" through editing and create many "new" episodes. I think I watched a few episodes in the beginning, but the cast didn't really interest me so I stopped watching.

After all the YEARS of me watching this show where I was rooting for the pounder to succeed, I would like to make an EXCEPTION in commenting on the Charles episode. With the EXTREME disabilities with which he suffers (physical, emotional, intellectual, spiritual) and the comfort/enjoyment he gets from eating (he and his bro eating in the Bar-B-Q restaurant for example) I say let the guy eat whatever he wishes. Of course, his body will wear out, probably in the near future but he will leave this world in a state of carbohydrate/fat/sugar nirvana.

They both look like they're in a "hostage video" on these last shows. The final show will be next week. They appear as if THEY DON'T WANT TO APPEAR ON CAMERA and/or have anything whatsoever to do with any of the family members. I will note, coincidentally, that I follow Tori on Instagram and she and Zach are going FULL STEAM AHEAD on producing and expanding their podcast to include the children. As the TLC filming apparently concluded last summer, the children are now older and able to do and say more things. Of course, ZiT are producing each episode of the podcast. Who is paying for the production (if there is any planning involved) is unknown as it is new. However, I believe they may have an investor (or maybe using some of their savings) to pay for the equipment and advice on the script. The kids are very cute. Jackson is seated so there's no emphasis on his legs and Lilah says a few garbled things (little to no improvement from last year) while Josiah is basically along "for the ride" at this point. Perhaps, they will find a sponsor, or more, for the podcast. I know that must be their goal. I believe the TLC show will NOT be renewed as there don't seem to be any storylines that the public will likely find compelling enough to warrant viewing.

I doubt their 3 kids will ever go to a public school. The same applies to the Klein kids from the erstwhile "The Little Couple." Those kids also attend a religious school.

Who pays for that?? Those long-term hotels are very expensive.

She wouldn't even have to "argue with him". She would simply give him A LOOK😃and that would end the discussion. The issue with Tori (as with "alll control freaks) is that she has to "run the show." If you assert yourself to her, she shuts you right down with a sarcasm or direct insult and the convo is closed. There are couples who have long-standing marriages in my family whose dynamic is exactly as I describe. For them, it's normal. Zach knows he can have his "perks" (like that workshop and his beautiful kids) with Tori as his wife but he can only go "so far" with bridging the gap with his family or he will face consequences he is not prepared to face.

May I ask what other details you may have about reaching that conclusion?

Certainly not arguing, but recall Audrey being chastised for allowing Ember to do what some viewers considered to be "dangerous" things (like the NUMEROUS occasions when Tori is found lacking for the same reason). Of course, with ZiT, they have special needs children with special challenges. Audrey and Jeremy did not have to deal with that but, it seemed to me, whatever Audrey (mostly her) did, or didn't do was brought into question by the viewers. The point I was trying to make is that in BOTH cases (ZiT and jeremy/audrey), the incessant criticism of all 4 parents, on many levels, drove them away from filming the show as soon as they could establish some financial way to survive maintaining their lifestyle without the TLC check.

Yes, it was Matt Gutman.

What was with David Muir's "sideburns"...he looked kind of weird...

As I recall, there were incessant posts about Audrey's pregnancy and the immediate aftermath of Ember's birth when Audrey was experiencing breastfeeding issues. I also recall, there were frequent negative remarks about Jeremy's skill (or lack of it) while remodeling their kitchen. Finally, if I recall correctly, there were ongoing and continuing negative references to Audrey about how she interacted with Tori,Amy and Matt. They couldn't WAIT to flee from filming the show and, as with ZiT, It's impossible to believe they'd ever appear on camera again (if the show even survives).

I think one of the greatest reasons they left the show was their reluctance to share how they are raising their kids with the viewing public. That was also the case with Jeremy and Audrey after years of both of them facing unrelenting criticism from forums like this over their parenting skills (or lack of same. I read that Audrey's parents are wealthy and that she has income that derives from that, so they're set financially with enough income to live comfortably and don't have to solely depend on whatever they make from their personal website and online presence. We'll see how ZiT manages financially without income from the show.

I would SECOND THAT SUGGESTION 100%!! The matter of dental implants is something I know a lot about as I've basically had my entire mouth restored and restructured about 10 yrs ago due to advanced periodontal disease. Yes, I had insurance; however, very little of the total bill was covered. I paid over $20, 000 for all the work that had to be done. From what I can see of Rose's economic circumstances, I doubt very much that she could EVER come up with that amt of cash. Perhaps her home county has a dental school that can donate the work she so desperately needs! Otherwise, maybe a family member could create a "GO FUND ME" page because if she goes through all the effort to lose her weight and get her extra skin removed, I DEFINITELY would donate to that fund and I believe many other viewers would contribute as well.

I wholeheartedly agree with your comment. I will give Tori credit, however, for building a viable monetized social media presence that took several years to achieve. Now they also have a monetized podcast. Presumably, both of them, especially Zach, have built a financial portfolio adequate to support the family for now and in the future. That income stream plus that social media and podcast $$$ probably allowed them to leave the show as, in my estimation, when I see them on camera, it kind of reminds me of a "hostage video." 😆 They don't seem happy to be there.

Tori is on Instagram and I watch her "reels" almost every day. I keep in mind that the show we're viewing was filmed about a year ago. In the recent videos Tori posted the kids have grown a lot. Josiah is walking and doing a lot of things and Lilah and Jackson have matured. Neither Lilah nor Jackson speak intelligibly but Tori never responds with saying the word or phrase correctly. I did hear Lilah say the word: DaDa and Josiah repeated it. There are no TLC subtitles so most of the time I don't know what Jackson is saying. Jackson, however, is playing baseball and doing very well getting on 1st base by actually hitting the ball. Lilah is still dancing but Tori seems much more affectionate and caring toward her. As we know, Tori shills for a # of children's clothing companies so Lilah, in particular, is always beautifully dressed. That was especially true when Lilah went to her first daddy/daughter dance at her school. The dress she wore was especially beautiful! I would have to say that the family seems to be thriving away from the show and I can't see even a remote possibility they would ever return to filming.