2020 Auditions, Finals, and Training Camp

[KoKo]

On 12/2/2020 at 6:33 PM, MeeMee2 said:

I was wondering this too! Ashlinn seemed like a total package. She has great kicks, good dancer,  great figure, and has the DCC look.I keep wondering what the heck happened? Maybe she pulls a Julia? Although I always thought the DCC ( and us) dodged a bullet with Julia putting her foot in her mouth and getting herself cut. I got some serious mean girl vibes from her. 

Agreed. It's all that excited puppy energy she needs to calm. It makes her a little jokery ( right Kelli??) when she smiles. I don't find her beautiful, but I don't find her unattractive. I definitely like her look over Clare D or Sydney's. 

I just can't watch Marissa dance.  To me, with all her "facials" and spastic movements, she comes across as a ten year old girl dancing in front of her mirror trying to be sexy ~ and obviously not.  Her moves are even extremely immature, regardless as to whether she's retaining the choreography!  

[Tuxcat]

25 minutes ago, vanillagum said:

So did McKenzie make the team? I thought she didn't but someone on reddit posted that final squad pic and she's in it. I can't find it on here anymore

LOL who is she? I haven't noticed her! I know she makes it but can't pick her out of the lineup!

[dreamcatcher]

On 12/9/2020 at 8:45 PM, lexie3248 said:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CIlh93nHsee/?igshid=555dbfqjtus4
 

Okay Kelli must be blind at this point. 

Good lord... I’m sorry but anyone who sees this mess, with VK hunching over and again almost falling back from the sheer effort, plus the fact that she always bends her knee, and still insists that she’s a veeery technical dancer... we need to stage an intervention. And i can’t believe Shelly claimed she herself taught her ballet. If she reached her 20s and she still can’t kick properly, as a teacher at least i’d be ashamed to admit I was her teacher.

On 12/9/2020 at 9:32 PM, MeeMee2 said:

Was she injured or something? Why was that single kick so dang heavy? So odd. 

Why, have you ever seen any non heavy kicks from her? In fact she’s lucky she hasn’t injured herself yet, so there’s that at least.

5 hours ago, vanillagum said:

Eh, I really don't think she would've. No chance in hell anyone who looked and acted like her in season 13 would've been brought into training camp, let alone stayed around that long. She was like an overeager puppy dog and she had legit rolls—she was very blatantly out of shape/not meeting their standards. 

So subsequently, she wouldn't have made it to season 14 without connections. No one would've given her a second chance—they barely would've given her a FIRST, if at all. 

Her second time in TC wasn’t a second chance. Her being kept to the end of TC the first time was actually chance no.500.

4 hours ago, NC-CFD09 said:

Yeah, I get what you're saying. Season 13 she was a little bit of a hot mess, but season 14 she had it more together. 

A little bit of a hot mess? What else should she have done then? Make out with a player on screen? She legit lied on her boss’ face, ghosted a veteran, gained way too much weight, had “no words”, acted like a petulant child in front of her boss when she didnt get SG even though she was actually warned she wasn’t even top 36... And she isn’t that great technique wise, that post above proves it. Good enough for dcc? Eh sure they took worse than her. Beautiful? I guess to each their own but while I appreciate she looks like the perfect dcc barbie from afar, I really can’t look away from that horsemouth -which apparently she did to herself anyway, no idea why she thought veneers was a good idea. So no, no second chance would be given to her, especially when next chance she got she fell out of a simple turn, landed OUT of her dance space and almost fall on her face. Not without the Kalina surname at least. 

2 hours ago, NC-CFD09 said:

I agree with a lot of what you said. I definitely don't think she would be as featured or given as many things (SG) as she has now if Kelli and Tina weren't friends. I feel like it is possible that other TC's have done stupid and immature stuff that didn't make it to TV.. but since Victoria was so heavily featured all of her blunders were caught by CMT. Nobody can deny though that her first year in TC was a dang mess so I also see where it is highly possible she wouldn't have been given a second chance.

There is no denying she's a talented dancer though.. Travis Wall said she was his favorite both years and I highly doubt he gives a crap what Kelli thinks. He is a straight up legend in the Dance industry. Talented dancers don't always get handed things like SG though (poor Jalyn), so it's possible she'd be a blender. I wouldn't say she's my all time favorite or anything.. but If I got to be Kelli and pick the team she'd make it.

Considering that they’ve even edited stuff out to create awkward moments etc, do you honestly believe that other girls that made the team had equally embarrassing moments yet TPTB decided to exclude the footage? Really? 

And I didnt actually watch last season, but I think it was proven with screenshots here that Travis was actually talking to amanda and not VK. Which still, just because you can do one style doesn’t mean you’re perfect for the team. Erin her first time around was a hot mess yet she had amazing ballet technique. Fair cut. Meredith is also amazing yet a hot mess when it comes to dcc. Alora Rose the same. VK dances spastic and out of control and her kicks are god awful for someone who claims they want to be a professional dancer and has no other option really. Did she improve? Yes, but so would all the cut girls ever if they had gotten as many chances as she did.

1 hour ago, lexie3248 said:

I saw this reposted on Caroline's story with Ashlee, Caroline, Victoria, and Kelcey kicking. 

Just look at caroline’s kick. Then VK’s. Can they have ONE post and ONE event where that girl isn’t featured? Otherwise Charlotte, since you’re too cheap to pay these girls fairly anyway, just cut the team to like 5 girls and have VK upfront all the time. It’s a much cheaper solution.

1 hour ago, LilyDutch said:

I like Maddie too, a lot actually , for most of the reasons you pointed out. So couldn’t agree more with you.

But... that does not make you the right person to have that no. 1 position in the team.
A point has to be front and center all the time, not just during Thunderstruck. Someone who stands out, even in a group of beautiful women. How can you make someone point of 36 people in a massive stadium when you can barely utter an audible sentence in front of a group of people with a look on your face that shouts “can I please hide or run from here?”

I know her primary task is to dance, but I also remember Jenn and Kash as points and good representatives in lots of other situations like interviews and appearances.

That’s exactly my issue with her. That interview with Kelli was so cringey. And I still can’t get over that GL meeting her first round as 1GL, she looked absolutely terrified. It’s not her fault Kelli wanted to punish Heather, but I can’t get over the fact that Maddie took Heather’s spot. She might be vanilla to some, but Kelli highlighted her her second season on the show as one of the rookies that she noticed the more, she immediately stepped up to a leadership role, she was a great spokesperson... That’s what you want from your leaders and the faces of the team, not someone who clearly wishes she could die everytime they ask her a question.

[Manc.UK.DCCfan]

Okay so my opinions on ep 3.

of all the shots Brennan, Lily (yes Lily) and Hannah are featured in (you can see Lily in a background dancing) there was nothing wrong at all with their dancing, no errors, no timing nothing they nailed it. My eye was actually drawn to Lily not the rookie the camera was trying to focus on.

 Meredith did make some errors. I wouldn’t have cut Lily, Brennan or Hannah for some of these rookies who made the team as some of them were awful.

I really liked Elli, Dani & Armani in the latest episode. I did feel bad for Sheridan but she definitely shot herself in the foot by calling Kelli girl. 

[NC-CFD09]

3 minutes ago, dreamcatcher said:

That’s exactly my issue with her. That interview with Kelli was so cringey. And I still can’t get over that GL meeting her first round as 1GL, she looked absolutely terrified. It’s not her fault Kelli wanted to punish Heather, but I can’t get over the fact that Maddie took Heather’s spot. She might be vanilla to some, but Kelli highlighted her her second season on the show as one of the rookies that she noticed the more, she immediately stepped up to a leadership role, she was a great spokesperson... That’s what you want from your leaders and the faces of the team, not someone who clearly wishes she could die everytime they ask her a question.

Punish Heather?! OMG why? Heather was one of the best ever IMO. Sweet, well spoken, classy had her stuff together.

[NC-CFD09]

11 minutes ago, dreamcatcher said:

A little bit of a hot mess? What else should she have done then? Make out with a player on screen? She legit lied on her boss’ face, ghosted a veteran, gained way too much weight, had “no words”, acted like a petulant child in front of her boss when she didnt get SG even though she was actually warned she wasn’t even top 36... And she isn’t that great technique wise, that post above proves it. Good enough for dcc? Eh sure they took worse than her. Beautiful? I guess to each their own but while I appreciate she looks like the perfect dcc barbie from afar, I really can’t look away from that horsemouth -which apparently she did to herself anyway, no idea why she thought veneers was a good idea. So no, no second chance would be given to her, especially when next chance she got she fell out of a simple turn, landed OUT of her dance space and almost fall on her face. Not without the Kalina surname at least. 

Everything you mention is totally fair. I knew me saying I liked her would be an unpopular opinion. I think I have a tendency to root for the ones that people hate even if a lot of the criticism is justified.

edit: for example.. I actually like Marissa, and a lot of people can't stand her either. 

Edited December 10, 2020 by NC-CFD09

[dreamcatcher]

 

9 minutes ago, NC-CFD09 said:

Everything you mention is totally fair. I knew me saying I liked her would be an unpopular opinion. I think I have a tendency to root for the ones that people hate even if a lot of the criticism is justified.

edit: for example.. I actually like Marissa, and a lot of people can't stand her either. 

That’s fair enough and you can like anyone for any reason! But at least for Marissa, if you take away the personal stuff (social media etc), on screen she hasn’t done much to be disliked. I don’t like er look but it’s not the first dcc I don’t find attractive. However, when someone gets the same criticism for so many different people, I think there might be some truth there. It’s not like we decided to conspire to persuade everyone that hunching over and bending your supporting knee isn’t proper technique, that has been true for longer than any of us had been on this earth!

for VK, I just won’t ever change my mind because no matter what she does, she is on the team only thanks to her mama. if she had come in last season directly? Eh, I’d still wouldn’t be excited but at least she wasn’t that obnoxious and well, we knew for the past decade that she would eventually make the team and stay for like another decade so fair enough. But after seeing her make not just one mistake that would end the “dcc journey” for any other girl, she legit has made everything but sleep with a player. And it’s not enough she still got a place on the team, she’s constantly featured, she got a LEADERS position in the triangle (no rookie would ever be allowed to be upfront like that) AND messed up but still just got Heather’s position after that... I just can’t deal with kelli’s bullshit anymore.

[EvergreenLove]

I rarely comment about Victoria, but I’m convinced that her time in Season 13’s TC was a made-for-TV dramatic storyline which set her up to be the comeback story for Season 14 and her future as the poster girl for DCC. This is common practice in the nepotistic world of DCC. They knew what they were doing with Victoria, and I have no doubt she will be Cassie 2.0 going forward. I don’t know if it will be a bride/wedding special, but she’ll definitely have some sort of special feature at some point.

Change my mind. 😊

Edited December 10, 2020 by 123DCCWoooo

[MeeMee2]

1 hour ago, NC-CFD09 said:

Everything you mention is totally fair. I knew me saying I liked her would be an unpopular opinion. I think I have a tendency to root for the ones that people hate even if a lot of the criticism is justified.

edit: for example.. I actually like Marissa, and a lot of people can't stand her either. 

I understand wanting to root for the underdog...I do it too. However at this point I wouldn't even call Victoria an underdog. People on this board have strong opinions on Victoria, but I won't call it the norm. If you look at her insta, her following shot WAY up after her "bullying" edit came out. Nothing gains sympathy more than a victim. Also, most of the "rude" comments I saw coming out was about her how she treated Jinelle . I could see someone calling Victoria out on her behavior online, her running to Mommy Kalina about it, and mommy telling Kelli... hence why she was asked that question at her panel interview instead of getting her thoughts on world issues or the #metoo movement. 

[rl27rl]

1 hour ago, NC-CFD09 said:

Punish Heather?! OMG why? Heather was one of the best ever IMO. Sweet, well spoken, classy had her stuff together.

Rumor had it, she had/sent/got hacked of nude photos of herself and were leaked somewhere . . . similar to what happened to Holly Arielle when she was on the team.

[scorpio1031]

14 minutes ago, rl27rl said:

Rumor had it, she had/sent/got hacked of nude photos of herself and were leaked somewhere . . . similar to what happened to Holly Arielle when she was on the team.

Her pics were never leaked - she was hacked and told K&J in case they were leaked.  They weren't happy cause the girls had been told to not have photos like that on their phones after what had happened before.  

[Pies]

On 12/9/2020 at 5:10 PM, TB12 said:

My two cents i'm sad that Sheridan seems to have morphed into Emily, with her sickle feet who tried out twice & was cut, the one who danced for the Mavs, I got such odd vibes from her but I'll chalk it up to nerves bc I've been rooting for her since her first audition but 'girl' better check herself!

Also is it me or has Kat put some weight on, again, not fat shaming she looks heavier by DCC standards or did she have her boobs done? Maybe that's what is making her look bigger to me... 

Kat is beautiful

[DCCFan197605]

4 hours ago, LilyDutch said:

I like Maddie too, a lot actually , for most of the reasons you pointed out. So couldn’t agree more with you.

But... that does not make you the right person to have that no. 1 position in the team.
A point has to be front and center all the time, not just during Thunderstruck. Someone who stands out, even in a group of beautiful women. How can you make someone point of 36 people in a massive stadium when you can barely utter an audible sentence in front of a group of people with a look on your face that shouts “can I please hide or run from here?”

So, here’s a question.   If a point girl achieves that status as a young person, and wants to have a long tenure with DCC, how is she politely demoted?  Certainly, point should be neither forced retirement or permanent.  Have we seen a demotion for fairness (not infraction) before?  What is that conversation like?

[SMP637]

5 hours ago, 5678Pixie said:

Tori is teaching Jennifer Amburn's class this Thursday.  I predict she will make the team next year.  She probably would have made the team this year if it wouldn't have been the year of the WOC.  Jen has a big influence on Kelli.  Lisa kissed Jen's butt before making the team.  Went to all of her classes and took privates from her.  Also ratted out Ashley and Julia to Jen knowing the infor would get back to Kelli.  Lisa is not dumb and she is all about herself.  That is how she gets places because we all know it it not her looks or her wardrobe.  

Year of the WOC?  Like they don't deserve their spots and they only made it bc they were WOC?  All if the WOC have been standouts.....Tori should've made it over Alora Rose....but Armani, Darian, Jada, Elli, and even Sydney have earned their places.  They are better than a few of the senior vets. 

[SMP637]

5 hours ago, Stee said:

Is that Armani in the center?  After rewatching this week's episode, and also watching her dance on her instagram account, she is quickly becoming my #1 favorite of all - and that includes veterans.  She and Amanda are 🔥🔥🔥

 

Edit: It seems like it is Armani in the center - she's the only rookie in this!  Sad she didn't make Showgroup!

Did Armani make SG?

[Weeklydcc]

7 minutes ago, SMP637 said:

Year of the WOC?  Like they don't deserve their spots and they only made it bc they were WOC?  All if the WOC have been standouts.....Tori should've made it over Alora Rose....but Armani, Darian, Jada, Elli, and even Sydney have earned their places.  They are better than a few of the senior vets. 

Thank you.  Every rookie WOC looks great so far.  It's not like there's a shortage of white women on the squad.  I hope every year is the year of the WOC from now on.  A diverse squad is more interesting to me.

6 minutes ago, SMP637 said:

Did Armani make SG?

Are we sure that isn't Chandi in the photo?  Armani is great, but only Show Group women are included in stuff like that.  Is Chandi in SG?

[DCCFan2021]

5 hours ago, lexie3248 said:

I saw this reposted on Caroline's story with Ashlee, Caroline, Victoria, and Kelcey kicking. 

Victoria is the only girl not doing this correctly. Ashlee, Caroline, and Kelcey are all up on releve with a straight supporting leg, Victoria is in plie on a flat foot. Why is she is SG and doing appearances/performances like this when she can't even handle a straight kick?

[scorpio1031]

3 minutes ago, DCCFan2021 said:

Victoria is the only girl not doing this correctly. Ashlee, Caroline, and Kelcey are all up on releve with a straight supporting leg, Victoria is in plie on a flat foot. Why is she is SG and doing appearances/performances like this when she can't even handle a straight kick?

Is that why she is so “stomp-y” in that other ig post where she does the one kick?  

[BunnyHop96]

7 hours ago, lexie3248 said:

I saw this reposted on Caroline's story with Ashlee, Caroline, Victoria, and Kelcey kicking. 

Flat foot only tightens your hamstring and makes it harder to kick higher and control the kick, thus why her supporting legs knee is bent to relieve some of that pressure. No wonder she hunches so much to get her leg up there and has so little control on it coming down yeesh. If this confuses non-dancers, sit on the floor with your legs together and straight out in front of you, with a straight back and pointed toes, reach down to your toes (like that dreaded toe touch thing in high school PE) and feel the stretch in the back of you leg (hamstring). Now, sit back up, flex your feet, and try again. Your leg will feel much tighter through the back and you'll feel more of a stretch. This is basically what VK is doing in her kick, she's making it so much harder for herself than it has to be.

All of the other girls are on relevée and stretching through the leg in order to get that kick higher, back straighter, and have a nice straight line through the supporting leg and into the one kicking. Common. Ballet. Technique.

Edited to add that I just realized this kind of answers your question @scorpio1031 lol

Edited December 11, 2020 by BunnyHop96

[BunnyHop96]

6 hours ago, LilyDutch said:

I like Maddie too, a lot actually , for most of the reasons you pointed out. So couldn’t agree more with you.

But... that does not make you the right person to have that no. 1 position in the team.
A point has to be front and center all the time, not just during Thunderstruck. Someone who stands out, even in a group of beautiful women. How can you make someone point of 36 people in a massive stadium when you can barely utter an audible sentence in front of a group of people with a look on your face that shouts “can I please hide or run from here?”

I know her primary task is to dance, but I also remember Jenn and Kash as points and good representatives in lots of other situations like interviews and appearances.

Oh she 100% just made point because of her seniority and the fact that she doesn't make waves. She's deff a solid dancer and eye catching in her own way but I agree that point should have that little something extra, some extra sparkle that just draws you in. I just think the team is severely lacking in those type of leaders these past few seasons. Amy was okay, Maddie, is okay, Rachel W is gorgeous but she just doesn't catch my eye the way someone like Holly P or Hannah did. DCC are really digging their own graves with their double standards for cutting dancers and getting bit in butt for it when they don't have anyone left that can fill that point position all on their own.

[Stfarris]

So, after watching MTT over the years, I have noticed that more often than not the vets who talk about getting their spots back when they enter at finals (and this year, the bubble) are the vets who get cut.  This year: Lily and Meredith. Last year: Gabby. One of the first seasons: a fourth year vet whose solo was a hula dance (not Jasmine).  

[Trixi]

58 minutes ago, Stfarris said:

So, after watching MTT over the years, I have noticed that more often than not the vets who talk about getting their spots back when they enter at finals (and this year, the bubble) are the vets who get cut.  This year: Lily and Meredith. Last year: Gabby. One of the first seasons: a fourth year vet whose solo was a hula dance (not Jasmine).  

I think you’re thinking of Carmen Butler. Cut her 3rd year. She did a talking head prior to finals that year. 

[rungirl46]

10 hours ago, 5678Pixie said:

Tori is teaching Jennifer Amburn's class this Thursday.  I predict she will make the team next year.  She probably would have made the team this year if it wouldn't have been the year of the WOC.  Jen has a big influence on Kelli.  Lisa kissed Jen's butt before making the team.  Went to all of her classes and took privates from her.  Also ratted out Ashley and Julia to Jen knowing the infor would get back to Kelli.  Lisa is not dumb and she is all about herself.  That is how she gets places because we all know it it not her looks or her wardrobe.  

Why pin this on the WOC?  They have been absolute showstoppers this year! 

[Blue hues]

10 hours ago, Holly85 said:

Jeesh!  Is that VK hamming it up on the first row, far left?  She is more extra than Gina ever was!

[Holly85]

10 minutes ago, Blue hues said:

Jeesh!  Is that VK hamming it up on the first row, far left?  She is more extra than Gina ever was!

Yes it is 

[UnicornKicksBack]

10 hours ago, LilyDutch said:

I like Maddie too, a lot actually , for most of the reasons you pointed out. So couldn’t agree more with you.

But... that does not make you the right person to have that no. 1 position in the team.
A point has to be front and center all the time, not just during Thunderstruck. Someone who stands out, even in a group of beautiful women. How can you make someone point of 36 people in a massive stadium when you can barely utter an audible sentence in front of a group of people with a look on your face that shouts “can I please hide or run from here?”

I know her primary task is to dance, but I also remember Jenn and Kash as points and good representatives in lots of other situations like interviews and appearances.

Thank you. Maddie cannot make a sentence and it looks horrible. 

10 hours ago, NC-CFD09 said:

Armani is freaking adorable. I knew I loved her from her audition video & she has not let me down one bit in TC. She just looks like she loves dancing and it makes me love watching her.

Yes! Armani looks like she is having the time of her life aka Amanda and Bridget. Almost gives me Robyn vibes a little.

3 hours ago, BunnyHop96 said:

Oh she 100% just made point because of her seniority and the fact that she doesn't make waves. She's deff a solid dancer and eye catching in her own way but I agree that point should have that little something extra, some extra sparkle that just draws you in. I just think the team is severely lacking in those type of leaders these past few seasons. Amy was okay, Maddie, is okay, Rachel W is gorgeous but she just doesn't catch my eye the way someone like Holly P or Hannah did. DCC are really digging their own graves with their double standards for cutting dancers and getting bit in butt for it when they don't have anyone left that can fill that point position all on their own.

You forgot she nannied some for the Jones fam

[Blue hues]

On 12/8/2020 at 11:29 AM, DCCOracle said:

 

Oh my...Kat doesn’t even look real here!  Can’t decide if she looks more like a mannequin. Or one of those toddlers and tiaras girls with that expression!  Rachel W has more life in her face than Kat has here!

19 minutes ago, Holly85 said:

Yes it is 

Why is she doing a different pose than the others?  Shouldn’t she match the girl on the far right?  And where is her right arm?

[sATL]

On 12/9/2020 at 1:37 PM, 5678Pixie said:

Knowing how Lisa is a kiss up to Kelli I am not surprised she wore jeans with stars thinking Kelli would be impressed that her whole world is DCC.  I laughed so hard when I saw these, no one would be caught dead anyplace in Dallas wearing those.

  

Does this even go together ? I mean the top is decent on its own (not the best color) and with many other pants/skirts styles. The pants are "ok" but not in this setting, nor with this top.

https://www.altardstate.com/as/all-clothing/bottoms/jeans/star-struck-flare-jeans/1002043501.html?gclid=CjwKCAiAq8f-BRBtEiwAGr3Dga3USIHLfZhNFx-bUa0Qlo1QjXB82lzkUiDIcDoK79gw-nTbuXcf3xoC5QUQAvD_BwE

I didn't think DCC were allowed to wear jeans in the presence of the mighty K&J - esp from a veteran . The only pants I think I saw were like jumpsuits or a something similar that Belk (all of their dress clothes seem to be the same material) would sell. Surely Belk was opened for customer curbside pickup by the time camp started.

And I thought they always wore brighter, lighter colors, like the vet in the background - which I guess is a sign of starting camp in the late spring. Its almost the vets seem to have a dress code and standard sorority colors outside of  being in uniform. Maybe she is trying to break the mold of not dressing like a DCC. 

Edited December 11, 2020 by sATL

[Holly85]

9 minutes ago, Blue hues said:

Oh my...Kat doesn’t even look real here!  Can’t decide if she looks more like a mannequin. Or one of those toddlers and tiaras girls with that expression!  Rachel W has more life in her face than Kat has here!

Why is she doing a different pose than the others?  Shouldn’t she match the girl on the far right?  And where is her right arm?

To be honest I have no idea maybe it was just a spur of the moment nothing planned out picture 

[scorpio1031]

27 minutes ago, Blue hues said:

Why is she doing a different pose than the others?

 

18 minutes ago, Holly85 said:

To be honest I have no idea maybe it was just a spur of the moment nothing planned out picture 

Has to be - Kelcey has both arms in the air, Rachel W is the only one in her row with one arm in the air 

[sATL]

49 minutes ago, UnicornKicksBack said:

Thank you. Maddie cannot make a sentence and it looks horrible. 

Yes! Armani looks like she is having the time of her life aka Amanda and Bridget. Almost gives me Robyn vibes a little.

You forgot she nannied some for the Jones fam

Nannied ? The Jones' have babies in the family, the 4th generation, - meaning the Jones children (charolotte and 2 brothers) are newly grandparents? Boy how time flies.. 

Edited December 11, 2020 by sATL

[scorpio1031]

2 minutes ago, sATL said:

Nannied ? The Jones' have babies in the family, the 4th generation, - meaning the Jones children (charolotte and 2 brothers) are newly grandparents? Boy how time flies.. 

The brothers might have grandchildren.  Charlotte isn't a granny yet:)

[DCCFan2021]

1 hour ago, Blue hues said:

Why is she doing a different pose than the others?  Shouldn’t she match the girl on the far right?  And where is her right arm?

I agree with the others, I don't think that they were supposed to be perfectly symmetrical. I'm more disturbed by the fact that she thinks that pose is cute at all. Look at her body compared to the other girls in the front row. Pulling her leg up so far is going to create rolls no matter how tiny you are, and she's not naturally tiny, so that pose makes it even more obvious. I agree with the arm thing as well, and her head is tilted too far back, to the point where we lose most of her hair despite it always being heavily teased. For a posed picture like this, VK really needs to learn to be aware of the camera angle and her body positioning.

[dreamcatcher]

11 hours ago, 123DCCWoooo said:

I rarely comment about Victoria, but I’m convinced that her time in Season 13’s TC was a made-for-TV dramatic storyline which set her up to be the comeback story for Season 14 and her future as the poster girl for DCC. This is common practice in the nepotistic world of DCC. They knew what they were doing with Victoria, and I have no doubt she will be Cassie 2.0 going forward. I don’t know if it will be a bride/wedding special, but she’ll definitely have some sort of special feature at some point.

Change my mind. 😊

I absolutely believe she was supposed to have a “struggler” editing in order to make her more likable, make sure people don’t accuse Kelli of handing the position to her AND to give her screentime -if she was as amaaaaazing as Kelli claims, she wouldn’t even be shown. We all know the actual good dancers are always hidden away because there is no drama there.

However, I think it backfired when mtt saw how much of a trainwreck she was and there was no way around it. Still, she was absolutely going to make the team that year, had she not managed to gain so much weight that even kelli couldn’t justify keeping her any longer.

10 hours ago, scorpio1031 said:

Her pics were never leaked - she was hacked and told K&J in case they were leaked.  They weren't happy cause the girls had been told to not have photos like that on their phones after what had happened before.  

Yes, but punishing a girl who was matured enough to come clean is such an asshole move. Heather could’ve (and should’ve imo) acted like nothing had happened until she had gotten her 1GL position back. And well, since they were never leaked, she would have kept that 1GL position and defo gotten triangle if not point (you can’t convince me they would rather have Amy share point with Maddie instead of Heather).And if they were happy with making a girl that made headlines for being a racist point, Heather shouldn’t have been punished for being the victim of a crime. Say what you want about the random rules they have, but further victimizing and victim is never ok in my books. At the very least, after putting her in the doghouse for a whole year and seeing her keeping her head up and being applauded for it by her teammates, she deserved better for her final year. #justiceforheather

9 hours ago, Weeklydcc said:

Thank you.  Every rookie WOC looks great so far.  It's not like there's a shortage of white women on the squad.  I hope every year is the year of the WOC from now on.  A diverse squad is more interesting to me.

Are we sure that isn't Chandi in the photo?  Armani is great, but only Show Group women are included in stuff like that.  Is Chandi in SG?

I think the point was that they kept all of woc this year particularly because of what had been happening all over the country. I’m not saying these women didn’t earn their spots, but I’m sure there were just as many woc in the previous year who were killing it and were cut either before tc or during tc because there were only 2-3 positions available for woc. Unless they keep it up for a few more years, I’m not gonna act like suddenly this org is woke or whatever.

7 hours ago, BunnyHop96 said:

Oh she 100% just made point because of her seniority and the fact that she doesn't make waves. She's deff a solid dancer and eye catching in her own way but I agree that point should have that little something extra, some extra sparkle that just draws you in. I just think the team is severely lacking in those type of leaders these past few seasons. Amy was okay, Maddie, is okay, Rachel W is gorgeous but she just doesn't catch my eye the way someone like Holly P or Hannah did. DCC are really digging their own graves with their double standards for cutting dancers and getting bit in butt for it when they don't have anyone left that can fill that point position all on their own.

I agree with this so much. Rachel is gorgeous and photographs well, and I mean, definitely an improvement over last season’s snoozefest. However she looks so....vacant? Uninterested? Point for me needs to have that extra something even if she’s not the most technical dancer (like Kashara) or the most drop dead gorgeous of the team (like JenK). Otherwise, they could just pick the prettiest every year and put her upfront. #Abigailforpoint

 

[Manc.UK.DCCfan]

7 hours ago, BunnyHop96 said:

Flat foot only tightens your hamstring and makes it harder to kick higher and control the kick, thus why her supporting legs knee is bent to relieve some of that pressure. No wonder she hunches so much to get her leg up there and has so little control on it coming down yeesh. If this confuses non-dancers, sit on the floor with your legs together and straight out in front of you, with a straight back and pointed toes, reach down to your toes (like that dreaded toe touch thing in high school PE) and feel the stretch in the back of you leg (hamstring). Now, sit back up, flex your feet, and try again. Your leg will feel much tighter through the back and you'll feel more of a stretch. This is basically what VK is doing in her kick, she's making it so much harder for herself than it has to be.

All of the other girls are on relevée and stretching through the leg in order to get that kick higher, back straighter, and have a nice straight line through the supporting leg and into the one kicking. Common. Ballet. Technique.

Edited to add that I just realized this kind of answers your question @scorpio1031 lol

Do we think perhaps she’s trying to copy Tess? Tess kicks with her supporting leg straight but flat footed as she does have good luck technique from previous dance teams along with some of the others, and it EPICALLY failed where VK is concerned as she’s neither trained that way or bothers stretching or bother to take any critique or feedback off anyone.

 

yeah to me it’s like try to copy Tess and failed miserably. 

[LilyD]

12 hours ago, DCCFan197605 said:

So, here’s a question.   If a point girl achieves that status as a young person, and wants to have a long tenure with DCC, how is she politely demoted?  Certainly, point should be neither forced retirement or permanent.  Have we seen a demotion for fairness (not infraction) before?  What is that conversation like?

That’s an interesting question... uhm I don’t know... I did wonder whether Kash retired after 4 years because she had been point for 2 years. Has anyone ever done 3?

as for politely demoted: I kinda feel it happened to Maddie going from point 2 to point 1, which is a lot shorter and less spectacular (my opinion)dance-wise. 

[DCCFan2021]

 

2 hours ago, Manc.UK.DCCfan said:

Do we think perhaps she’s trying to copy Tess? Tess kicks with her supporting leg straight but flat footed as she does have good luck technique from previous dance teams along with some of the others, and it EPICALLY failed where VK is concerned as she’s neither trained that way or bothers stretching or bother to take any critique or feedback off anyone.

 

yeah to me it’s like try to copy Tess and failed miserably. 

I seriously doubt Victoria is trying to copy anybody.

Also, I find it extra interesting that she (or anyone, for that matter) would stay flat-footed if they're supposed to go on releve, because it does make it harder and typically forces your kicks lower. Normally K&J have to tell a girl to not go on her toes when they're doing kicks down the floor, because they want them to practice kicking with that extra stretch to improve flexibility.

[Pau84]

8 minutes ago, LilyDutch said:

That’s an interesting question... uhm I don’t know... I did wonder whether Kash retired after 4 years because she had been point for 2 years. Has anyone ever done 3?

as for politely demoted: I kinda feel it happened to Maddie going from point 2 to point 1, which is a lot shorter and less spectacular (my opinion)dance-wise. 

Insane to have 2 point girls whom have never been and never will be point girl material. Incredible bad decision making, blending and/or ignoring  objectives and validating irrational motives.

These are the potential point girls (a lot of rookies!) 

1. Alora-Rose Morgan
2. Armani Latimer
3. Claire Wolford
4. Dani McGinnis
5. Darian Lassiter
6. Elli DiGiovanni
7. Jada McLean
8. Jessica Bowman
9. McKenzie Sherman
10. Alanna Tarango
11. Amanda Dilks
12. Ashlee Yesbanks
13. Caroline Sundvold
14. Chandi Dayle
15. Cici Levi
16. Erin Sauerhage
17. Amanda Dilks
18. Jalyn Stough
19. Kat Puryear*
20. Kelcey Wetterburg
21. Kristin Dodd
22. Lexie Smith
23. Rachel Alexander
24. Amanda Dilks
25. Rachel Wyatt
26. Savannah Heineken*

* are a teensy-weensy of a dance risk, however we shouldn't overestimate the dance aspect

[parrotfeathers]

3 hours ago, dreamcatcher said:

or the most drop dead gorgeous of the team (like JenK).

I guess beauty really is in the eye of the beholder.

[NC-CFD09]

15 hours ago, rl27rl said:

Rumor had it, she had/sent/got hacked of nude photos of herself and were leaked somewhere . . . similar to what happened to Holly Arielle when she was on the team.

 

15 hours ago, scorpio1031 said:

Her pics were never leaked - she was hacked and told K&J in case they were leaked.  They weren't happy cause the girls had been told to not have photos like that on their phones after what had happened before.  

 

[Manc.UK.DCCfan]

2 hours ago, DCCFan2021 said:

 

I seriously doubt Victoria is trying to copy anybody.

Also, I find it extra interesting that she (or anyone, for that matter) would stay flat-footed if they're supposed to go on releve, because it does make it harder and typically forces your kicks lower. Normally K&J have to tell a girl to not go on her toes when they're doing kicks down the floor, because they want them to practice kicking with that extra stretch to improve flexibility.

You can see it here though, Tess is flat footed and basically kicking her shoulder (she needs a better pointed toe) next one is on Relevé and is at the same kick height as Tess, the girl after is also flat footed but got great height in her kicks.

I’m certain someone on here said it was due to where they’ve previously danced and the training they’d had. 

[ByTor]

21 hours ago, parrotfeathers said:

Speaking of Brennan, where is ByTor these days?

I've been deep into a state of avoidance & denial 🤣

I've been seeing a lot about Brennan's jeans, and that as a vet she should have known better.  Maybe I've become way too cynical, but it makes me wonder if she and perhaps others who may have been on the cut bubble (I saw some rumors about Savannah) were told to wear jeans to set it up as "ohhh, so THAT'S one of the reasons a veteran was cut."  Sorry, I don't trust them as far as I can throw them.

I have an idea. I think that I, along with any of the other Brennan Backers (hey, it's only fair if Marissa can have her "Marauders") should come up with a clothing brand called "Arrogant Jeans" 😉

[cherryblossom]

I’ve always thought that Kelli told the producers who to interview about “possibility of the veterans getting cut at finals”. Actually the only one who did an interview who was not cute was Cassie who seemed at a loss for words & finally came up it would SUCK if she couldn’t be a cheerleader!  If they interview someone who ends up not being cut, then that is never shown.

[Kitkatkitty]

44 minutes ago, Manc.UK.DCCfan said:

You can see it here though, Tess is flat footed and basically kicking her shoulder (she needs a better pointed toe) next one is on Relevé and is at the same kick height as Tess, the girl after is also flat footed but got great height in her kicks.

I’m certain someone on here said it was due to where they’ve previously danced and the training they’d had. 

The order here is Tess, Gina, Claire, Daphne 

[TB12]

She has to leave mommy's house to meet a man that would date her let alone marry her... 

[ByTor]

2 hours ago, parrotfeathers said:

5 hours ago, dreamcatcher said:

or the most drop dead gorgeous of the team (like JenK).

I guess beauty really is in the eye of the beholder.

I read @dreamcatcher's comment to mean they don't select the most drop dead gorgeous as point, and as an example, Jen K was point.

2 hours ago, Pau84 said:

24. Amanda Dilks

Is there a reason you have her so low on the list (as I know you're a big fan)?  My opinion on her has totally changed, I'd have her as 1, assuming she stays.

 

3 hours ago, DCCFan2021 said:

Normally K&J have to tell a girl to not go on her toes when they're doing kicks down the floor, because they want them to practice kicking with that extra stretch to improve flexibility.

Thank you for this comment! I always thought they were told to not go on their toes because going on their toes was wrong.

[5678Pixie]

5 hours ago, dreamcatcher said:

 

I think the point was that they kept all of woc this year particularly because of what had been happening all over the country. I’m not saying these women didn’t earn their spots, but I’m sure there were just as many woc in the previous year who were killing it and were cut either before tc or during tc because there were only 2-3 positions available for woc. Unless they keep it up for a few more years, I’m not gonna act like suddenly this org is woke or whatever.

 

 

Yes, that was the point thank you for saying this so well.  I am not aware of any of the TCC saying the woc didn't deserve to make the team but they have talked about how the TC this year was all about the woc.  I blame that on Kelli because of the way she handled some things.

[NC-CFD09]

3 hours ago, Pau84 said:

Kat Puryear*

* are a teensy-weensy of a dance risk, however we shouldn't overestimate the dance aspect

I know Kat is not the best dancer in the group.. but I honestly could see them putting her as point in a couple years because she is so gorgeous. They'd probably make her split it with someone who can dance crazy well though.. Maybe an Amanda/Kat shared point?

[Manc.UK.DCCfan]

7 minutes ago, NC-CFD09 said:

I know Kat is not the best dancer in the group.. but I honestly could see them putting her as point in a couple years because she is so gorgeous. They'd probably make her split it with someone who can dance crazy well though.. Maybe an Amanda/Kat shared point?

If Amanda gets point she’s too gorgeous and too much of a good dancer to not need to share point, if she gets point she’s one that deserves to have it solely and not share 

[parrotfeathers]

1 hour ago, ByTor said:

 

3 hours ago, parrotfeathers said:

7 hours ago, dreamcatcher said:

or the most drop dead gorgeous of the team (like JenK).

I guess beauty really is in the eye of the beholder.

I read @dreamcatcher's comment to mean they don't select the most drop dead gorgeous as point, and as an example, Jen K was point.

 

Gosh thank you so much for that clarification.  I had only had one cup of coffee when I read the comment.  I thought she was saying she was drop dead gorgeous !

So glad  you are back in the trenches.