S10.E11: Kiss and Tell All

[Miss Slay]

2 hours ago, esco1822 said:

 

So is Brandi just in love with Denise and lashing out because her feelings aren’t being reciprocated? Because at the party, she seemed far from upset with Denise but now, all of a sudden, she is a pawn in Vanderpump’s...I mean Denise’s chess game? Nothing adds up here.

This. That's what I got from it. Brandi can say whatever she wants but body language doesn't lie. She looked like she was in love with Denise at Kyle's party/event. She was following her around like a puppydog - and Denise couldn't look less interested.

Maybe Brandi thought it was going to be more but then realized she was just being used for sex. Denise seems like like she pulled a move that a lot of guys do and maybe Brandi wasn't expecting that from a woman?

Either way, Brandi's acting like she's upset because she became the other woman but it actually seems like she's upset that she was rejected.

 

[Marley]

I don’t know why but when Brandi told the girls that her and Denise hooked up and Teddi looks all shocked and is like kissed? It made me laugh quite a bit. She was acting like she was at a junior high school sleepover lol.

I am not a Denise or Aaron fan they annoy at times but next week previews don’t look fun. I hate gang ups. Who cares if Denise fucked Brandi. They are both adults. Altho it is odd a bit she did it with her kids downstairs. Unless I misunderstood the sleeping arrangements. Nobody can have a discussion about threesomes by her kids but she can bring some friend to bang on a trip with her kids while she’s married to someone else and that’s cool? That would weird me out as a kid. I mean my parents aren’t Denise and Charlie tho so it’s prob different lol.

This is of course assuming Brandi isn’t lying.  Discussing on national tv tho is shady on Brandis part seems like she just wants some relevancy again.

Edited July 23, 2020 by Marley

[angelamh66]

Things I learned from tonight’s episode...

1. Apparently that tacky monstrosity in Kyle’s entry way is.... permanent???

2. Amelia Grey is awful human and it’s entirely on Rinna. No, it’s not even a little cute that she raised an entitled a$$hole who thinks her apartment shouldn’t ruin her vibe. Good lord!

3. Kim should most definitely stop wearing her hair in that insane style. It’s so severe and awful.

4. Sutton actually has some charm. 

5. The dogs are the best thing about this show.

[Marley]

That pink neon sign in the entryway at Kyles house is so ugly. It hurts my eyes and it’s just tacky as fuck. Who thought that shot was a good idea lol.

[The Ringo Kidd]

Hey I have a new show tag line for Kyle:

”You know what they say about houses in Beverly Hills.... they are all pink on the inside.”

[swankie]

5 hours ago, eleanorofaquitaine said:

Brandi and Kim are truly an unholy duo. 

Kim should never wear her hair pulled back like that.  That haggard face needs some bangs or tendrils or something.  And Brandi looks like she's trying to give Jocelyn Wildenstein a run for the money for the most plastic surgeries.  Her talking heads were painful to watch.  

And I don't know why Garcelle gets s pass for asking Sutton about her finances.  Whenever anyone else does it on the show they get dragged for filth.  Isn't it supposed to be an unwritten law that a housewife's financial history is forbidden to talk about?  I mean just ask Camille.

The whole reason I think all of the shock over Denise sleeping with Brandi is bullshit because of the fact that they all pretty much admitted to some pretty racy sex acts while at Denise's BBQ.  Erika admitted to being in a throuple and last season Denise admitted to buying her husband happy endings massages, etc.  What's the big deal about her getting it on with Brandi?  I don't get it. 

 

 

Edited July 23, 2020 by swankie
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[Caseysgirl]

I’ve been watching this season rather skeptically but I think I’m kind of done. These are all horrible human beings & Im tired of them calling themselves “friends” yet becoming insanely thrilled to attack them, dish about them and watch them crumble. We’ve seen this happen season after season and with the way the world is currently, this is not entertainment to me. And I don’t even want to watch for the clothing and home porn when the economy is crumbling and people are dying. I think whatever interest I had in the Real Housewives franchises in general is kind of waning.  Am I alone in feeling this way? Iv3 been a fan for years & yet now....

[swankie]

3 hours ago, Marley said:

This is gonna sound bad but I think Rinnas daughter whole anxiety thing is a crock of shit. She just likes to be a high maintenance bitch. I can’t prove it and I don’t judge anyone with anxiety I have anxiety myself but her daughter is a joke. Her pathetic clothing line is making her enough money to pay for a place like she was describing? Yea right. I guess she might have a trust fund.

Did you hear Rinna say that pitching in a thousand a month was ok?  It wouldn't surprise me if Rinna paid the full rent for her spoiled brat.  Of course the daughter would have to pick out all of the plants and flowers to contribute her part and make her mama proud.  <eyeroll>

Edited July 23, 2020 by swankie
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[ShawnaLanne]

9 hours ago, DivaLasVegas82 said:

I really liked Sutton's rapport with Garcelle. Those two should have spent some one-on-one time together sooner.

Um...Denise's affair with Brandi is being used as the main storyline for this season. And I agree that Denise has the right to sleep with whomever she wants as a grown woman. That's not the issue. The issue is Denise lying about it when she could have just admitted it and taken control of the narrative. But with Denise sending cease and desist letters to the network and quitting filming midway through the season, it makes her look like she has something to hide.

Whether it's true or not, and I don't believe Brandi, why would Denise have to agree to that narrative? Because she's on the show? No one else is open and honest on the show. It's a shitty pile on and however Denise deals is cool with me. And the cease and desist letters? That's protecting her marriage, whether from the truth or lies doesn't matter.

Edited July 23, 2020 by ShawnaLanne

[nexxie]

Wow, Denise’s woman-picker is just as broken as her man-picker!

[OdinO.]

8 hours ago, Door County Cherry said:

They want to go before everyone else had other things to do--like Erika being in NY for four months. 

No but as someone who didn't watch earlier seasons, I couldn't tell Kim, Brandi and Adrienne apart. 

They've had three hit singles.  In addition to "Hold On," they've had "Release Me" and "You're In Love." The were the best selling all female group at the time, surpassing The Supremes.  But I also think part of Carnie's appeal is she's the daughter of a Beach Boy. 

Really Brian Wilson was THE Beach Boy.

 

[eleanorofaquitaine]

7 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

No the main storyline was how dare Denise ask these woman not to talk about inappropriate things in front of her underage daughters and their friends ..... how dare she mommy shame them .... Now its lets basically try to insinuate that she is a slut who does slutty things and say see so she shouldn't have cared about us being inappropriate in front of her kids  ..... its now turned into a form of sex shaming like see she isn't a good mother she has sex with other consisting adults while her children are nowhere around... shes the bad mom not us .... its an attack on dense its tacky and its making me dislike everyone on this show for trying it 

They are allowed to talk about other things than threesome-gate, though. I mean, it's "reality tv," not a script, they can discuss more than one subject. 

I don't particularly believe Brandi because it's Brandi. But I don't really understand this argument. 

[Keywestclubkid]

2 minutes ago, eleanorofaquitaine said:

They are allowed to talk about other things than threesome-gate, though. I mean, it's "reality tv," not a script, they can discuss more than one subject. 

I don't particularly believe Brandi because it's Brandi. But I don't really understand this argument. 

The argument is they are trying anything they can to discredit Denise and show she is the one that’s a bad mother.. trotting out Brandi in this gotcha moment when it has nothing to do with her daughters or what they were fighting about is just sad and pathetic 

[eleanorofaquitaine]

I know that Teddi is disliked here but I like her for the most part. And I don't have any problem understanding why she focused on the idea that Denise allegedly said mean things about her. If I found out that someone was saying mean things about me behind my back, I would also first focus on that before focusing on the gossip.

Now, since it is Brandi, Teddi should know to take it with a grain of salt. But I can't blame her for being upset about it. 

[eleanorofaquitaine]

3 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

The argument is they are trying anything they can to discredit Denise and show she is the one that’s a bad mother.. trotting out Brandi in this gotcha moment when it has nothing to do with her daughters or what they were fighting about is just sad and pathetic 

I think that is a theory that some on this board have about Denise and the group but I personally don't subscribe to it. I don't think that there is some coordinated effort to show she is a "bad mother." I think that the main imperative is to stir up drama and Denise is being caught in the crosshairs. But I don't believe this theory that there is an effort to destroy her marriage or show she is a bad mother. 

[Keywestclubkid]

12 minutes ago, eleanorofaquitaine said:

I think that is a theory that some on this board have about Denise and the group but I personally don't subscribe to it. I don't think that there is some coordinated effort to show she is a "bad mother." I think that the main imperative is to stir up drama and Denise is being caught in the crosshairs. But I don't believe this theory that there is an effort to destroy her marriage or show she is a bad mother. 

Actively seeking out Brandi and letting her say this on national television like she was the victim in this and that Denise has done something “wrong” ... did Denise hold a gun to her head? Brandi was a consenting  adult trying to be the wronged party.. let’s flip this why not invite and trot out Someone who says they fucked Harry or Marico or “shudders” PK ... why go so low in this fight with Denise to bring in this “accusation” remember when Rinna freaked at Kim don’t you dare talk about my husband? They don’t want any of their “ugly” business out there aka lawsuits or Harry not ever being around Rinna ever but do this? These ladies are using anything they can to attack her all over them being mad that Denise dare have the gall to ask they don’t speak a certain way while underage children are present  .. this is Atlanta level low they have stooped to .. it’s tacky it’s trashy and it’s not fun 

Edited July 23, 2020 by Keywestclubkid

[Keywestclubkid]

And the accusation of the ladies getting together to talk about who to attack and what to do was brought up before .. at some of the reunions.. so yes there is evidence to back up the theory that this is a coordinated effort and attack  

[Kiki777]

Hate Kyle but loved seeing her 3 big dogs!  Bambi got gray in the face suddenly (sorry, age shaming)

I loved Dog in a Wig, but he’s gonna get himself fired.  He broke the fourth wall by licking the camera.

Yeah I’m only posting about the dogs, because the humans on this show suck.

[eleanorofaquitaine]

21 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Actively seeking out Brandi and letting her say this on national television like she was the victim in this and that Denise has done something “wrong” ... did Denise hold a gun to her head? Brandi was a consenting  adult trying to be the wronged party.. let’s flip this why not invite and trot out Someone who says they fucked Harry or Marico or “shudders” PK ... why go so low in this fight with Denise to bring in this “accusation” remember when Rinna freaked at Kim don’t you dare talk about my husband? They don’t want any of their “ugly” business out there aka lawsuits or Harry not ever being around Rinna ever but do this? These ladies are using anything they can to attack her all over them being mad that Denise dare have the gall to ask they don’t speak a certain way while underage children are present  .. this is Atlanta level low they have stooped to .. it’s tacky it’s trashy and it’s not fun 

I understand you subscribe to the theory of an active campaign to discredit Denise. I don't. I'm not trying to argue you out of your belief, I'm just saying I don't agree with it.  Obviously, Brandi has an agenda - I am not disagreeing with that. I just think that this happened somewhat organically, as opposed to some coordinated campaign to destroy Denise's marriage and show her to be a a bad mother for... reasons, I guess?. 

Anyway, while we both agree that Brandi's appearance is trashy, we're just going to have to agree to disagree on whether or not this shows that the group is trying to undermine Denise's marriage and motherhood. 

[Gini67]

So my biggest question after watching for an hour... that pink neon sign in Kyle’s house is not just for the party??.... it’s permanent??

[geauxaway]

8 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Oooh! Dorit was the one who invented surprise concerts.

I read this in Kathy Hilton’s “you do magic?” voice.  🤣

[ParadoxLost]

1 hour ago, eleanorofaquitaine said:

I think that is a theory that some on this board have about Denise and the group but I personally don't subscribe to it. I don't think that there is some coordinated effort to show she is a "bad mother." I think that the main imperative is to stir up drama and Denise is being caught in the crosshairs. But I don't believe this theory that there is an effort to destroy her marriage or show she is a bad mother. 

I'm probably one of the some on this board.

Everything about this meeting of Kim, Brandi, Kyle, and Teddi was contrived to get something discussed among some combination of them off camera to be said on camera. 

But its the details Brandi gave of the hookup are what makes me think that its either outright lies or embellished, under Kyle's direction, to specifically make Denise look like a bad mother. Brandi's detail of Denise's daughters being downstairs and there was no door fits too perfectly into the other HWs stance that Denise is feigning more distress at the threesome talk at her dinner to protect or improve her image at their expense. You did a threesome in a movie didn't work.  Look what you said on camera didn't work. Look what you posted on social media didn't work.  Now they get to try you had sex with someone not your husband on a trip with your daughters and you didn't even have a door to close.

Because really, Brandi claiming to still be close to  Denise and saying Denise talked shit about all of them would have been enough for drama and would have been somewhat believable.  Because we do know what Denise says about them when they aren't there.

Talking about this hookup would normally be on the list of things, even if they happened, that are supposed to be off limits.  Its not this time because they want to use that detail that the kids were in the house with no door.  And that I think is a total fabrication.

I'm coming down on the side of this being an outright lie even though I'm struggling a bit with the idea that four people could be that evil to cook this up and go along with putting it on television.  I want to revert to thinking maybe its an embellishment or maybe some of them don't really know its lies.  But I don't really see how this can be much of anything besides Brandi being desperate to get back on the show and Kyle using it for her own purposes.

This is basically a redux of LvP getting Brandi to bring  the Mauricio is cheating tabloids on their trip.  Only turned up to eleven because of the seasons in between where vile behavior has become more and more normalized.

Edited July 23, 2020 by ParadoxLost

[suomi]

I think the suppressed reactions to Brandi's reveal were telling, especially when considering the energy levels of previous conversations we've seen during this particular campaign. 

Especially when considering that this coup was hand-delivered by a tag team of two ragamuffin refugees from The Island of Misfit Toys.

Such serious faces, quietly shocked yet noncommittal, reflecting sober digestion of a shocking accusation that typically would have Kyle twirling her pony and splitting in celebration.

None of it was organic. Kim haltingly said too much, oops, so she could pass the ball to Brandi who, golly gee, as much as she hated doing so, allowed the story to be pried from her. 

It's a given that Brandi is glib and when she was recounting the details that in her mind prove her accusation it was like she was checking off items on a list. Door, no door, loft, floor plan, Aaron knows, Aaron is in the dark. 

It almost makes sense now as to why Brandi returned to the fold and all was forgiven. (/s)

The significance of which cast members were present for the reveal and which were not isn't known yet  but that is half of the fun, right? 

I found it ironic that Brandi, of all people, tossed off the line "She's not who you think she is."

Nah. It was like watching a lackluster effort by a high school drama department with a shallow bench of talent. 

Edited July 23, 2020 by suomi
ETA Paradox, I missed seeing your post while I was typing mine.

[ShawnaLanne]

17 hours ago, suomi said:

... ...

Nah. It was like watching a lackluster effort by a high school drama department with a shallow bench of talent. 

I agree with what you wrote. Nothing much to add, but I wanted to say that I love this statement and in many ways it encompasses all the interaction of Vyle, Ericunt, and Lipsa for the last two years.

Edited July 24, 2020 by ShawnaLanne

[eleanorofaquitaine]

33 minutes ago, ParadoxLost said:

I'm probably one of the some on this board.

Everything about this meeting of Kim, Brandi, Kyle, and Teddi was contrived to get something discussed among some combination of them off camera to be said on camera. 

But its the details Brandi gave of the hookup are what makes me think that its either outright lies or embellished, under Kyle's direction, to specifically make Denise look like a bad mother. Brandi's detail of Denise's daughters being downstairs and there was no door fits too perfectly into the other HWs stance that Denise is feigning more distress at the threesome talk at her dinner to protect or improve her image at their expense. You did a threesome in a movie didn't work.  Look what you said on camera didn't work. Look what you posted on social media didn't work.  Now they get to try you had sex with someone not your husband on a trip with your daughters and you didn't even have a door to close.

Because really, Brandi claiming to still be close to  Denise and saying Denise talked shit about all of them would have been enough for drama and would have been somewhat believable.  Because we do know what Denise says about them when they aren't there.

Talking about this hookup would normally be on the list of things, even if they happened, that are supposed to be off limits.  Its not this time because they want to use that detail that the kids were in the house with no door.  And that I think is a total fabrication.

I'm coming down on the side of this being an outright lie even though I'm struggling a bit with the idea that four people could be that evil to cook this up and go along with putting it on television.  I want to revert to thinking maybe its an embellishment or maybe some of them don't really know its lies.  But I don't really see how this can be much of anything besides Brandi being desperate to get back on the show and Kyle using it for her own purposes.

This is basically a redux of LvP getting Brandi to bring  the Mauricio is cheating tabloids on their trip.  Only turned up to eleven because of the seasons in between where vile behavior has become more and more normalized.

To be clear, I don't believe Brandi - but not because I don't think Denise is incapable of cheating on Aaron with a woman (or with a man, for that matter) or that she's such a sainted presence that she would do such a thing. I don't believe Brandi because it's Brandi, not because of Denise. In short, I feel about Denise the same way I feel about LvP - her fans attribute to her a level of saintliness that she doesn't deserve.  She's a human being, with good aspects to her character and flaws, and not every action she takes can be attributed to her so-called goodness. 

But I do think that the scene last night was coordinated to get this info out from Brandi - but again, I think that the main reason for it was to stir up drama, not some huge, coordinated effort to undermine Denise's marriage and motherhood.  I think that there are people on this board and elsewhere who think that these shows are chessboards where everything is laid out from the beginning, and I don't think that is it. I think that there was some effort early in the season to go after Kyle, but actual events as they happened overtook that effort to focus on Denise. But again, that's because the drama was better, not because Kyle and Teddi and what have you got together before filming and began to twirl their mustaches about ways they could destroy Denise's marriage and undermine her image as a good mother.  If the drama about Kyle was more interesting, the producers would have gone with focusing on that. 

Edited July 23, 2020 by eleanorofaquitaine

[Baltimore Betty]

55 minutes ago, Gini67 said:

So my biggest question after watching for an hour... that pink neon sign in Kyle’s house is not just for the party??.... it’s permanent??

I know!!! What a disappointment!

[eleanorofaquitaine]

I will say that for all I am not a big Denise fan, I can absolutely understand why she would be livid about Brandi being able to put these things out there on camera, especially without her knowing. So her anger there is IMO totally justified. 

[njbchlover]

9 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Oooh! Dorit was the one who invented surprise concerts.

Ha-ha!!  I thought the same thing!  I guess Dorit was just a little put off that someone else in the group has a connection to a slightly dated, slightly "has-been" performer(s).  

Seems to me that most charity functions have some type of entertainment, and it should be of no surprise that in Beverly Hills, that entertainment is going to be a familiar name.  

I don't know if Wilson-Phillips were lip-syncing or not, but if not, their voices sounded wonderful.  (I was a fan back in the day!)  

[Ohiopirate02]

For the record, I think everything that came out of Brandi's mouth was lies.  Her story was so inconsistent.  First Denise talked shit about all of the other Housewives that sounded like the CliffsNotes version of what people say about them online.  Brandi wanted to sound like she and Denise were besties meeting all the time to kiki about the other wives.  But then, when she got to her story about the "affair," she said she and Denise had not talked since that incident happened in April.  I heard her say that the first time she talked to Denise after that incident was Kyle's party which would have been in November.  We all know Brandi is too much of a drunk to remember what Denise said about Teddi or Erika six months or more later.  

[TattleTeeny]

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Also, Rinna's daughter needs a TWO bedroom apartment? Unless she's planning for a roommate, wtf?

That was pretty much the only reasonable, "normal" thing I noticed about her list of requirements. I've always had 2-BRs whether or not I had a roommate (although, in my last place, "bedroom" was a generous word for the extra room).

Edited July 23, 2020 by TattleTeeny

[suomi]

The underlying premise of this show is that it's a game of chess and sometimes it's a 3-dimensional game. The season doesn't begin with a set strategy in mind but the mustache twirling begins at the moment the producers detect in which direction the foulest wind is blowing.

Edited July 23, 2020 by suomi
noticed jarring typo

[watcherwoman]

So pregnant Teddy flies off to Rome with the other bitches?  She looks at least 6 months pregnant at that time.  I wouldn't do it, but it's her life.   A few seasons back there was a housewife that was into witches or some weird stuff.  She had a strange looking house, but I can't remember her name.  Brandi flirted like crazy with her too.  That lady was also married and damn, I can't remember her name.  Brandi, flirting with married people isn't right either, so just shut up.

Wilson Phillips had the musical bloodlines.  Brian Wilson was a musical genius IMO.  Chynna Phillip's parents were pretty talented too.  I don't have problem with Carnie Wilson either.

[tranquilidade]

This mom shaming stuff really bothers me.  I don't think for one minute Denise was trying to shame the group but that is what they chose to make it and then retaliate in kind.  I think, and this is just speculation, that Denise was worried about how this looked on tv because she has to answer to family and maybe even her school community  for her children.  I don't think for one second that Denise is worried about it for personal  reasons other than parenting and the structures  outside the home.  She was not trying to make the others look like bad parents, they said this not Denise.  I don't find Denise judgmental, but they do.   Since Brandi was not on the show and none of this alleged stuff happened on the show I don't know why it is relevant and none of it even if true changes how I feel about Denise at all.  A drunken night between Brandi and Denise is not even interesting.  I don't live like Denise and I was never her fan and I still feel this way.  The others are so offensive in so many ways that Denise looks like an angel even though she isn't. 

I think that Kyle with the others want to establish some rules for the show such as when and where husbands participate, attending events so that each person contributes the same about of time to the show making it equitable,  and Denise is not following them. As a result, they want to get rid of her because she is not a "team" player in this manipulation of the plot and production.   

  I also believe that is why Kyle and LVP finally came unglued because they both were trying to control and produce the drama of the show but both had different agendas.  I also think they fought over the fact of equitable distribution of work since  appearances on the show are a sacrifice   and so when one person bails out on an event this gets the ones who go really angry because none of them like being together.   

 LVP was not putting in the hours and still getting paid and she and Kyle could not agree on plot.  Kyle got the others to gang up on LVP over the work distribution issue even though LVP's brother died which was disgusting to me.  The only thing any of them care about is fame and money and so they all wind up never satisfied or really happy.   LVP had other projects in the works and walked away at just the right time.  Good for her. 

 

 

[Baltimore Betty]

7 hours ago, angelamh66 said:

Things I learned from tonight’s episode...

1. Apparently that tacky monstrosity in Kyle’s entry way is.... permanent???

2. Amelia Grey is awful human and it’s entirely on Rinna. No, it’s not even a little cute that she raised an entitled a$$hole who thinks her apartment shouldn’t ruin her vibe. Good lord!

3. Kim should most definitely stop wearing her hair in that insane style. It’s so severe and awful.

4. Sutton actually has some charm. 

5. The dogs are the best thing about this show.

I would be more inclined to spend big bucks on a fancy apartment for all the dogs on this show than I would for that spoiled, entitled child of Rinna's, she is doing that girl a disservice.  If Amelia having anxiety that precludes her from going to school or getting a real job than Rinna should be getting that girl in to some clinic not a high rise with a doorman, cabana boy, gym, security, massage therapist, on call manicurist, sock putter onner and sage burners on call.

So sad about that tacky neon, the 80's called and said even they were tired of that look.  Maybe that is why Kyle put the house on the market, it was easier to move than take that down, lol. 

Kim, oh dear Kim, she seemed blasted when she showed up at the charity event then appeared to be sleeping in her chair during the auction.  

I do not remember the location of that Mexico vacation from the auction but as we have seen on the HW's shows that not all amazing Mexico vacations are close to the airport as in a few hours or more by car and a pain to get to, I wonder if Garcelle is aware of that if it is the case.  Wilson Phillips singing made me think of "Bridesmaids." I wonder if that is all the do these days, show up at random events and sing that song.  

I have a feeling that Sutton's money came from her husband, Garcelle probably knows that in real life and she does not seem the type to ask that question in real life...that crap is better left to Rinna to ask, it would be more organic.

Brandi's story seems there is a tinge of truth to it, when she, Aaron and Denise were talking at the bar in Kyle's house Brandi said that she really likes them and wanted to be a thruple, Aaron looked a little confused as to why she would say that, he may have been in the dark about things.  Although, Brandi used to cozy up to LVP and Ken in the same fashion so maybe that is her thing to do with couples, try to get in there, you know.

 

[eleanorofaquitaine]

3 minutes ago, watcherwoman said:

So pregnant Teddy flies off to Rome with the other bitches?  She looks at least 6 months pregnant at that time.  I wouldn't do it, but it's her life.   A few seasons back there was a housewife that was into witches or some weird stuff.  She had a strange looking house, but I can't remember her name.  Brandi flirted like crazy with her too.  That lady was also married and damn, I can't remember her name.  Brandi, flirting with married people isn't right either, so just shut up.

Wilson Phillips had the musical bloodlines.  Brian Wilson was a musical genius IMO.  Chynna Phillip's parents were pretty talented too.  I don't have problem with Carnie Wilson either.

Carlton. She was also incredibly annoying. 

[TV Diva Queen]

11 hours ago, Door County Cherry said:

They want to go before everyone else had other things to do--like Erika being in NY for four months. 

No but as someone who didn't watch earlier seasons, I couldn't tell Kim, Brandi and Adrienne apart. 

They've had three hit singles.  In addition to "Hold On," they've had "Release Me" and "You're In Love." The were the best selling all female group at the time, surpassing The Supremes.  But I also think part of Carnie's appeal is she's the daughter of a Beach Boy. 

and the other one is the kid of the Mama's and the Papa's.  I was never a fan and I'm right at the age group when Hold On was all the rage.  I pretty much hate that song.  

[TattleTeeny]

I'm confused about the timing of Brandi's story. So, per her, sometime in the recent past, she got into a fling with Denise, thinking that Aaron knew about and was OK with it. When the fling ends for whatever unclear reason, Brandi finds out that Aaron didn't know and she is very upset that she was a party to cheating, and is then disgusted by Denise and sick with guilt? But when she sees Denise at Kyle's party, she is no longer disgusted and ashamed? 

Edited July 23, 2020 by TattleTeeny

[Baltimore Betty]

I am jealous of the HW's going to Rome, I have been to that city 3 times and not once was I ever able to get a good photo of the Trevi Fountain without a million people in the way, but those women get a front row photo alone, no heads of strangers in the midst. UGH.

[njbchlover]

8 hours ago, princelina said:

She got an eyeball roll from me for congratulating herself on having a "deeper" conversation than the other women are capable of 😄 

That hairdo!  Her hairdresser must despise her.  Kyle was caught in a lie tonight when she told the dastardly duo "you both look so pretty!"

Out of curiosity, does "everyone" know that she is bisexual?  I was as surprised as Kyle and Boring Betty were to hear that.  "Not that there's anything wrong with it 😄 " of course.  I don't follow these women on social media but I do follow the threads here and do not ever recall anything about that.

Agreed.  I'll give her a bit of a break because she's horribly spoiled and young and I'm sure thinks she is cool as can be, sitting there listing her extravagant requirements in that deadpan voice, and posting on SM about all of her disorders.  But I hope she finds something to actually do with her life; otherwise she will be as dull and pathetic as the Kardashian/Jenners.

I hope Dorit is available to give Kyle and Teddi an etiquette lesson about having a baby shower for your 3rd kid (not done!). I wonder if native Italian speakers hear her talking Italian and wonder what kind of accent she is faking? 😄 

I just figured "bi-sexual" to Brandi means ANYONE that is willing to hook up with her - man or woman, it doesn't matter, as long as she gets the sexual attention she desires.  

I watched some of Season 2 today (I think that was Brandi's first season), and LVP made a comment about Brandi - "any port in a storm" while on a catamaran ride in Hawaii.  That comment was very telling, even then.  

Brandi is a very damaged soul.  If she wasn't so vile, I would feel sorry for her.  She looks for attention and personal affirmation in any possible way, and most times, it is an outrageous method.  She has a serious drinking problem, and she is so low on self-esteem, she is willing to debase herself (and, others who are involved with her) over and over and over again for the attention she craves and seems to need to survive.

Aside from the whole conversation about Denise, which I don't really care one way or the other about Denise's or Brandi's sexual exploits, I was disgusted and appalled at her behavior at Kyle's event.  Falling all over everyone, falling on stage, the crappy comment/toast she made with Adrienne (did she really NEED to bring up the whole surrogacy thing again??).  She should have been escorted out, put in a car and sent on her way.  

This show has become so disappointing.

 

Edited July 23, 2020 by njbchlover

[tranquilidade]

8 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

I just figured "bi-sexual" to Brandi means ANYONE that is willing to hook up with her - man or woman, it doesn't matter, as long as she gets the sexual attention she desires.  

I watched some of Season 2 today (I think that was Brandi's first season), and LVP made a comment about Brandi - "any port in a storm" while on a catamaran ride in Hawaii.  That comment was very telling, even then.  

Brandi is a very damaged soul.  If she wasn't so vile, I would feel sorry for her.  She looks for attention and personal affirmation in any possible way, and most times, it is an outrageous method.  She has a serious drinking problem, and she is so low on self-esteem, she is willing to debase herself (and, others who are involved with her) over and over and over again for the attention she craves and seems to need to survive.

Aside from the whole conversation about Denise, which I don't really care one way or the other about Denise's or Brandi's sexual exploits, I was disgusted and appalled at her behavior at Kyle's event.  Falling all over everyone, falling on stage, the crappy comment/toast she made with Adrienne (did she really NEED to bring up the whole surrogacy thing again??).  She should have been escorted out, put in a car and sent on her way.  

This show has become so disappointing.

 

Yes when she comes over hide your dog, just to be safe.

[njbchlover]

1 hour ago, suomi said:

I think the suppressed reactions to Brandi's reveal were telling, especially when considering the energy levels of previous conversations we've seen during this particular campaign. 

Especially when considering that this coup was hand-delivered by a tag team of two ragamuffin refugees from The Island of Misfit Toys.

Such serious faces, quietly shocked yet noncommittal, reflecting sober digestion of a shocking accusation that typically would have Kyle twirling her pony and splitting in celebration.

None of it was organic. Kim haltingly said too much, oops, so she could pass the ball to Brandi who, golly gee, as much as she hated doing so, allowed the story to be pried from her. 

It's a given that Brandi is glib and when she was recounting the details that in her mind prove her accusation it was like she was checking off items on a list. Door, no door, loft, floor plan, Aaron knows, Aaron is in the dark. 

It almost makes sense now as to why Brandi returned to the fold and all was forgiven. (/s)

The significance of which cast members were present for the reveal and which were not isn't known yet  but that is half of the fun, right? 

I found it ironic that Brandi, of all people, tossed off the line "She's not who you think she is."

Nah. It was like watching a lackluster effort by a high school drama department with a shallow bench of talent. 

That's the best description of Kim and Brandi that I've ever seen!!  Hysterical!!  

[Ohiopirate02]

15 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

I just figured "bi-sexual" to Brandi means ANYONE that is willing to hook up with her - man or woman, it doesn't matter, as long as she gets the sexual attention she desires.  

I watched some of Season 2 today (I think that was Brandi's first season), and LVP made a comment about Brandi - "any port in a storm" while on a catamaran ride in Hawaii.  That comment was very telling, even then.  

Brandi is a very damaged soul.  If she wasn't so vile, I would feel sorry for her.  She looks for attention and personal affirmation in any possible way, and most times, it is an outrageous method.  She has a serious drinking problem, and she is so low on self-esteem, she is willing to debase herself (and, others who are involved with her) over and over and over again for the attention she craves and seems to need to survive.

Aside from the whole conversation about Denise, which I don't really care one way or the other about Denise's or Brandi's sexual exploits, I was disgusted and appalled at her behavior at Kyle's event.  Falling all over everyone, falling on stage, the crappy comment/toast she made with Adrienne (did she really NEED to bring up the whole surrogacy thing again??).  She should have been escorted out, put in a car and sent on her way.  

This show has become so disappointing.

 

I really felt for Brandi back in season 2.  I do firmly believe that Eddy and LeAnn went out of their way to make Brandi's life hell those first few years they were together. LeAnn was a bitch and I was Team Brandi.  But, at some point you have to let go of that hate, move on, and take responsibility for your own happiness.  Brandi has never done this.  Instead she burrowed deeper into the bottle, and spent way too much trying to fix her face, and keeps on trying to stay in a spotlight that has never been kind to her.  

[njbchlover]

35 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I would be more inclined to spend big bucks on a fancy apartment for all the dogs on this show than I would for that spoiled, entitled child of Rinna's, she is doing that girl a disservice.  If Amelia having anxiety that precludes her from going to school or getting a real job than Rinna should be getting that girl in to some clinic not a high rise with a doorman, cabana boy, gym, security, massage therapist, on call manicurist, sock putter onner and sage burners on call.

So sad about that tacky neon, the 80's called and said even they were tired of that look.  Maybe that is why Kyle put the house on the market, it was easier to move than take that down, lol. 

Kim, oh dear Kim, she seemed blasted when she showed up at the charity event then appeared to be sleeping in her chair during the auction.  

I do not remember the location of that Mexico vacation from the auction but as we have seen on the HW's shows that not all amazing Mexico vacations are close to the airport as in a few hours or more by car and a pain to get to, I wonder if Garcelle is aware of that if it is the case.  Wilson Phillips singing made me think of "Bridesmaids." I wonder if that is all the do these days, show up at random events and sing that song.  

I have a feeling that Sutton's money came from her husband, Garcelle probably knows that in real life and she does not seem the type to ask that question in real life...that crap is better left to Rinna to ask, it would be more organic.

Brandi's story seems there is a tinge of truth to it, when she, Aaron and Denise were talking at the bar in Kyle's house Brandi said that she really likes them and wanted to be a thruple, Aaron looked a little confused as to why she would say that, he may have been in the dark about things.  Although, Brandi used to cozy up to LVP and Ken in the same fashion so maybe that is her thing to do with couples, try to get in there, you know.

 

The resort for the vacation that Garcelle purchased/won is the Fairmont Mayakoba in the Riviera Maya.  It's a stunning resort!!  She would fly into Cancun, and it's about a 40 minute drive from the airport.  

[TexasGal]

42 minutes ago, watcherwoman said:

Wilson Phillips had the musical bloodlines.  Brian Wilson was a musical genius IMO.  Chynna Phillip's parents were pretty talented too.  I don't have problem with Carnie Wilson either.

This is making me feel bad for the 3rd member that no one ever talks about.  Who I will freely admit, before I googled her just now, I thought was also a Phillips.  But she's also Brian Wilson's daughter, Wendy.  #neverforgetwhatshername 

[njbchlover]

28 minutes ago, TattleTeeny said:

I'm confused about the timing of Brandi's story. So, per her, sometime in the recent past, she got into a fling with Denise, thinking that Aaron knew about and was OK with it. When the fling ends for whatever unclear reason, Brandi finds out that Aaron didn't know and she is very upset that she was a party to cheating, and is then disgusted by Denise and sick with guilt? But when she sees Denise at Kyle's party, she is no longer disgusted and ashamed? 

She became disgusted and ashamed again, after the party, because Aaron and Denise did not want to be a "throuple" with her, or even have a one-night stand threesome.  Brandi then decided to get even with them by telling this story about her and Denise.  I'm still skeptical about this story, because I think that Brandi exaggerates and "fills in the blanks" the way she prefers it, especially after black-out drunken nights.  I'm not saying there could be a kernel of truth in her story (maybe a little makeout session, or something), but I'm thinking that there may be some serious embellishing on Brandi's part, as well.

[Persnickety1]

13 hours ago, eleanorofaquitaine said:

Have to give it to Wilson Phillips, they have made a career of singing exactly one song for 30 years. 

Or 3 songs that sound like 1.  

Mini Persnickety thought she had never heard of them.  I told her she'd recognize them when they started singing, and she did.  

13 hours ago, whydoievencare said:

I'm thinking that when the Hive talks about "communicating", what they actually mean is that Denise is supposed to sit there and take her lumps until they've decided that there has been enough "communication".  I think Denise summed it up pretty well with the ever bitchy Erica - that she's an open person but she does have boundaries regarding her children.  I'm sure that won't be enough for these bitches.  Certainly it didn't impress Erica.

I keep waiting for Sonja Morgan to invite Denise over for tea and explain "pecking order" amongst the housewives.

13 hours ago, Straycat80 said:

Both Kim and Brandi need to lay off the plastic surgery, they both look like ghouls.

Here we go, whether the Brandi and Denise hook up is true or not it’s Brandi trying desperately to stay relevant. What a skank. 

Good gawd almighty, Kim looked like a shrunken head in those closeups.  

12 hours ago, Legalbeagle421 said:

Brandi's face in her confessional is something else. Whoa. Crazy after seeing reruns of season 2 today. Just whoa. 

She looks like she's very closely related to Jocelyn Wildenstein.  

12 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

again I am gonna say this UNLESS Brandi & Denise fucked in front of her 3 daughters this has NOTHING to do with anything .....

But, but, but...SHE MADE BRANDI A CHEATER!!!!!!!!!!

Holy cripes, I totally agree with you.  In fact, I said in an earlier thread that I could not possibly care less if Denise prefers tacos or sausage or a combination platter.  The only thing I call into question is choosing the odious Brandi Glanville to canoodle with.  Ugh.  

12 hours ago, janiema said:

By the way, have we ever heard anything more about that one room in one restaurant (of a chain) that Dorit was designing?

The only thing I know about that joint is that Brynn Hartman ate dinner there the night she killed herself and Phil.  Other than that, I got nothing.  

 

ETA:  I posted  this based on page 1 comments...I was glad to see on page 2 that I wasn't the only one that thought Kim looked like a shrunk head.  Oy!!!  😮 

Edited July 23, 2020 by Persnickety1

[Pondlass1]

I think viewers are catching onto the fact that much of this so called reality is not reality at all. There’s a seasonal plot ... the downfall of Denise, and a loose script.  So it begins...

Kyle needs to borrow outfits from sister Kim for the Rome trip! That alone is suspect. Kim and Brandi show up in full makeup, fully mic’ed. Cameras are set up in the bedroom for the big reveal.  Clutching her pearls Brandi tries for an Oscar, the many cameras catch individual reactions of horror, the plot thickens. End of episode.

Next episode. Rome. Cameras are in place. Despite being on the flight together only now can the juicy gossip be spread to the other members of the cast.

It’s not entertaining anymore. It’s sad. Brandi is the saddest of all. I hope they don’t bring her back.

Oddly I’m beginning to like Sutton more and more. She’s got a certain charm. And she’s not got the perfect figure... which makes a change from these skinny bitches.

Not much script is needed for the NY housewives. Ply them with alcohol, all hell breaks lose... next day they’re hugging. 

 

[nexxie]

Brandi’s falling-down-drunk behavior at the party reminded me of Sonja Morgan - two women who never recovered from being cast aside by the men who gave them the identities they most valued. Disturbing.

[Ms Blue Jay]

12 hours ago, Axie said:

That was a really odd conversation between Sutton and Garcelle.  If I was Sutton I think I would have said I’m not talking about any of this.

Very.  And it has nothing to do with being Southern either.  I'm not, but I would be bewildered.

12 hours ago, Straycat80 said:

Both Kim and Brandi need to lay off the plastic surgery, they both look like ghouls.

It's really sad.  I'm very new to this show , so there was another woman at one point, and Brandi was in the scene with her (Arlene?  God knows) and they both looked like the same woman because they probably all go to the same surgeon.

[Ms Blue Jay]

12 hours ago, QQQQ said:

Brandi's eyes are two different sizes. She is making the other women look natural in comparison.

I was thinking that Teddi was looking beautiful pregnant, then I Googled "young Teddi Mellencamp" with these celebrities as I tend to do, to see how much work they've got done.  Well, I take the comment about her being beautiful back.  That's all work.  LOL