S10.E11: Kiss and Tell All

[jewel21]

Lisa invites Dorit and the others on a glamorous Roman getaway; Denise tries to make nice with Erika, but gets an ice-cold shoulder instead; Garcelle digs into Sutton's past, while Brandi drops a bomb on Kyle and Teddi.

Airdate: 07/22/2020

[nexxie]

Well, it’ll be nice to see Rome again.

[Sew Sumi]

Here we go...

[The Ringo Kidd]

When in Rome do as the Romans do!

That’s why they are throwing Denise to the lions.

[Kiki777]

She was 

On 7/21/2020 at 12:22 AM, jewel21 said:

Denise tries to make nice with Erika, but gets an ice-cold shoulder instead

I do like Denise but wish she wouldn’t try with Erika, it just feeds her ego.  It’s ironic- Erika in her first season was actually cool and forgiving, now she is part of the herd attacking Denise.  

[Straycat80]

Ugh, right off the bat my two most hated HW’s Brandi and Kim. Tuning out until this boring party is over. 

[eleanorofaquitaine]

Have to give it to Wilson Phillips, they have made a career of singing exactly one song for 30 years. 

[Rhetorica]

I'm completely lost. I feel like I'm in a time warp....

[janiema]

So far all of Erika’s clothes look like different colors of tin foil.

[eleanorofaquitaine]

Rinna's hair looks bad. 

Oh God, keep these women away from Pope Francis. He's dealing with enough as it is. 

[Thumper]

I missed why they are going to Rome?  She started talking about Erika’s Broadway performance, so I thought they were going to NYC to see her?

Ericka in bitch mode.

[whydoievencare]

I'm thinking that when the Hive talks about "communicating", what they actually mean is that Denise is supposed to sit there and take her lumps until they've decided that there has been enough "communication".  I think Denise summed it up pretty well with the ever bitchy Erica - that she's an open person but she does have boundaries regarding her children.  I'm sure that won't be enough for these bitches.  Certainly it didn't impress Erica.

[eleanorofaquitaine]

It feels a little bit like Garcelle is interrogating Sutton, though I kind of admire her asking Sutton about where she got her money. 

[LibertarianSlut]

Teddi speaking to Camille is possibly the most I’ve ever liked Teddi.  

Did anyone else mix up Denise and Teddi in Teddi’s ‘rona talking head?

When Camille says that “at some point we have to put the past in the past,” that would be true...if she was a cast member of this show.  

I am so beyond tired of bringing out Wilson Philips to sing “Hold On.”  Bridesmaids got there about a decade earlier.  It was weird when Carnie Wilson was on a few seasons ago and everyone sort of bowed down to her as the Sober Whisperer.  I was pretty young in the early 90s, but wasn’t Wilson Phillips like a one-hit wonder?  Why does everyone on this show want to kiss Carnie Wilson’s ass so much?

I never understood why Adrienne would keep her surrogacy a secret, so I was never really sure why she’d be mad at Brandi for revealing that in the first place.  I have no idea how anyone so tiny could just show up with twins one day and everyone not guess that she didn’t give birth.  I do understand that Brandi keeps running into Adrienne though, as I’m quite sure they frequent the same plastic surgeon.  

Where have I been?  Kim and Brandi greeted each other as if they hadn’t seen each other in ages.  I thought they were like soulmates last time we saw them.  

Erika’s shoe dazzle event is the reason I watch the show.  Lisa looks so much younger and better without her iconic hair.  I’m not sure I’ll ever stop saying it.  Erika looked better than I’ve seen in awhile.  I wasn’t digging Denise’s jeans at all.  Why didn’t she just wear sweatpants?  

I guess Denise forgot that Erika apologized to her about talking about the threesomes in front of kids.  I guess that is why Erika ignored Denise when Denise said, “just because I’m an open person doesn’t mean I don’t have boundaries with my children.”  At this point, Erika wanted to talk about Aaron and Denise said “we’ll talk about that in a moment,” but then she walked off.  I guess she doesn’t want to talk about the husband.  

I can’t prove it, but I feel like Dorit was just listing a bunch of designer names when she was “speaking Italian.”

[Axie]

That was a really odd conversation between Sutton and Garcelle.  If I was Sutton I think I would have said I’m not talking about any of this.

[eleanorofaquitaine]

Oof, Amelia is high maintenance. I do like the way that Alexia handled that, though. 

[Straycat80]

Rinna’s daughter, entitled much? What does she do for a living, didn’t she fail at the modeling career? 

[janiema]

Rinna’s daughter is going to have a hard time living down her appearances on this show.

[eleanorofaquitaine]

I'm with Teddi about opening gifts at a shower. I know it is the convention but I find it awkward. 

[Andi27]

Are we really supposed to believe that Kyle would ever wear Kim's clothes?

And we watched an entire season of Kyle hating Brandi for getting between her and Kim, but now she claims that 'at least when [she] was mad at Kim, [she] knew Brandi was there for [Kim]"?

 

Edited July 23, 2020 by Andi27

[Pop Tart]

7 minutes ago, LibertarianSlut said:

 I guess that is why Erika ignored Denise when Denise said, “just because I’m an open person doesn’t mean I don’t have boundaries with my children.”  At this point, Erika wanted to talk about Aaron and Denise said “we’ll talk about that in a moment,” but then she walked off.  I guess she doesn’t want to talk about the husband.  

Agreed. Denise is beating the dead horse of her kids and boundaries far more than any of the others are at this point. Erika was wanting to talk about Aaron’s behavior and Denise wanted to bring it back to her being a victim of their talking about her kids.

I think what is really behind their irritation with Denise and her always walking out is that she is effectively, repeatedly  leaving work early. They never like when a cast member keeps missing events. Same has been the case with Ramona on RHONY. She keeps leaving events and they get irked.

And here is Brandi. Say what you will about her being a pot-stirrer, but she’s got a pretty good record for truth-telling.

[eleanorofaquitaine]

Brandi and Kim are truly an unholy duo. 

[Straycat80]

Both Kim and Brandi need to lay off the plastic surgery, they both look like ghouls.

Here we go, whether the Brandi and Denise hook up is true or not it’s Brandi trying desperately to stay relevant. What a skank. 

[eleanorofaquitaine]

Just now, Pop Tart said:

And here is Brandi. Say what you will about her being a pot-stirrer, but she’s got a pretty good record for truth-telling.

I'm not sure I would call what Brandi does "truth-telling." I don't particularly like Denise, but Brandi's record about telling the truth is spotty, at best. I wouldn't really trust what she said unless I saw the event in question happen with my own two eyes. 

[LibertarianSlut]

I didn’t mind the conversation between Garcelle and Sutton for some reason.  I don’t mind Garcelle earning her paycheck and asking Sutton where she got her money and whether she lost her virginity to her husband.  And Sutton did something that is never done that I absolutely love—she said where she got her money, but when asked to talk about her virginity, she very simply and very kindly said she was not going to answer that question.  It is not rocket science, and it is so elegant!!  So many of these women—across the franchises—lie through their teeth over and over.  When confronted with the truth, their defense is that they didn’t want to talk about it on camera, or that it isn’t our business.  That’s not a defense to lying!  You can just say “I don’t feel like discussing that.”  Looking at you, Gretchen, season seven of RHOC, when you flat-out denied having had your lips done until Alexis called you out at the reunion and you had to admit it!  And you, Melissa Gorga, for denying you had rhinoplasty for a bunch of seasons, and you Bethenny Frankel for lying about having breast implants and saying you just got a lift for years!!  Not that this is a big issue for me or anything!! 😖

“Amelia Grey” is a model, yet I find Alexia Umansky significantly more attractive than she is.  No contest.  

I’m pretty sure Lisa had financial help from her parents until she was successful.  I remember reading her life story somewhere, and she was pretty pampered growing up.  

I’m bored of Brandi and Kim suddenly coming around the way I complained last week about Camille suddenly being a factor.  You’ve got seven women plus a friend.  Make them air their real stories or recast.  I feel like it breaks some unspoken reality TV rule when we start following the stories of women who are not in the opening credits because....they don’t want to tell them for some reason?  I’d rather the show just be honest and fire Kyle, Dorit and Erika mid-season and put Brandi, Camille and Kim back into the opening and put out a statement that the former three women weren’t giving reality on reality TV.  And I don’t even have a strong dislike for Kyle, Dorit and Erika!  I just don’t want this to continue to be a show about nothing with no guiding principles.  Why don’t they call each out anymore?  What happened to “you’re lying, you’re sick and you’re an alcoholic” and “you stole my goddamn house”?

[Thumper]

They’re going to believe BRANDI???????

How long is she going to be on this show?  I left the last time she was on; may be time again,

[Mr. Miner]

Season 2 was on Bravo today and all I can say is that Kim is one horrible human being.

[Legalbeagle421]

Brandi's face in her confessional is something else. Whoa. Crazy after seeing reruns of season 2 today. Just whoa. 

Edited July 23, 2020 by Legalbeagle421

[tranquilidade]

1 minute ago, Legalbeagle421 said:

Brandi's face in her confessional is something else. Whoa. Crazy after seeing reruns of season 2 yesterday. Just whoa. 

She destroyed her looks.   She won't ever get them back.

[Axie]

Kim looks like hell and Brandi looks like Charo.

[janiema]

Brandi and Kim are the axis of evil. But Kyle, Rinna, Teddi and Erika also belong to that group.

[TexasGal]

7 minutes ago, Legalbeagle421 said:

Brandi's face in her confessional is something else. Whoa. Crazy after seeing reruns of season 2 yesterday. Just whoa. 

Yeah, she has lizard eyes.  One looks like its peering out the side while the other looks straight ahead.  Shudder.

When Brandi stood up to leave she was like a foot taller than everyone else.  Which gave me the giggles. 

[esco1822]

1 minute ago, Axie said:

 

Kim looks like hell and Brandi looks like Charo.

 

I actually thought the reverse, especially with Kim wearing her hair the way she did.

They should have called this episode Parade of the Mangled Faces. Kim, Brandi, Adrienne, Erica in her confessionals. This group is terrifying. This is a walking advertisement against Botox and fillers. I’ve never been so happy to be poor.

[Mr. Miner]

Kim looks like a drug addled scarecrow.

[JD5166]

3 minutes ago, Andi27 said:

Are we really supposed to believe that Kyle would ever wear Kim's clothes?

And we watched an entire season of Kyle hating Brandi for getting between her and Kim, but now she claims that 'at least when [she] was mad at Kim, [she] knew Brandi was there for [Kim]"?

 

This whole scene is so natural and not planned at all. LOL JUST STOP......This is so ridiculous......As Aaron might say...

[nexxie]

Well, that was.....different.

 

[QQQQ]

Brandi's eyes are two different sizes. She is making the other women look natural in comparison.

[FlyingEgret]

There is no way Kyle didn't know what Brandi was going to say.  Convenient pinch of spice for an underwhelming season...

[Axie]

OK.  This is ridiculous.  Brandi feels guilty about sleeping with Denise.  Brandi.  Feels guilty. Nope.  So, to feel less guilty she’s going to try to destroy Denise on national tv but she doesn’t feel guilty about that.  And, I’m also confused.  Is she afraid of Aaron? Is he going to send the tin foil hat mafia after her?  And then my last question is, why would anyone believe Brandi?

[Straycat80]

At much as I hate Brandi I wish they had dragged her to Rome and had her repeat her story to Denise face to face. It’s always easy to talk shit about someone behind their backs. 

[Door County Cherry]

37 minutes ago, Thumper said:

I missed why they are going to Rome?  She started talking about Erika’s Broadway performance, so I thought they were going to NYC to see her?

They want to go before everyone else had other things to do--like Erika being in NY for four months. 

26 minutes ago, LibertarianSlut said:

Did anyone else mix up Denise and Teddi in Teddi’s ‘rona talking head? 

No but as someone who didn't watch earlier seasons, I couldn't tell Kim, Brandi and Adrienne apart. 

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I am so beyond tired of bringing out Wilson Philips to sing “Hold On.”  Bridesmaids got there about a decade earlier.  It was weird when Carnie Wilson was on a few seasons ago and everyone sort of bowed down to her as the Sober Whisperer.  I was pretty young in the early 90s, but wasn’t Wilson Phillips like a one-hit wonder?  Why does everyone on this show want to kiss Carnie Wilson’s ass so much?

They've had three hit singles.  In addition to "Hold On," they've had "Release Me" and "You're In Love." The were the best selling all female group at the time, surpassing The Supremes.  But I also think part of Carnie's appeal is she's the daughter of a Beach Boy. 

[LibertarianSlut]

I object to Brandi getting handed such a large presence on the show for form’s sake, but if she is going on to deliver news to some cast members (Kyle and Teddi) about another cast member (Denise), at least it’s relevant to the plot of these “real housewives.”  Why did we get so much of the info in the talking heads though?  That seemed suspicious.  It also felt like it took a whole episode for Brandi to get the story out.  

Brandi’s reaction to the fact that people were talking about sex in front of Denise’s children (“their father is Charlie Sheen”) wasn’t appropriate, but she was the first one on the show to have that reaction, just for the record.  Other women commented that the girls’ father is Charlie Sheen as part of a larger discussion that Denise talked about Charlie’s Thanksgiving hooker on TV, as well as her husband’s penis, as well as her coercing him into getting a hand job from an old lady.  Brandi was the first person to make a direct connection that certain kids should be immune to certain situations just by virtue of who their father is, and I feel like that point gets overlooked.  

I believe Brandi is telling the truth about Denise.  The story just rang true to me, and I don’t remember any lies Brandi has ever told.  I don’t care that she said it on TV either.  I think you run the risk of it all coming out—sex, lies, lawsuits and videotape—when you put yourself in the public eye, as Denise has done.  I just want the other cast members to get the same treatment.  If this is what it takes for the season to finally get started, this is positive turn of events as far as I’m concerned.  

And I am concerned.  Because all we got this episode was two seconds of two parties, a dog in a wig, and a story from the town drunk, (albeit likely true).  It has got to get better than this. 

[TexasGal]

1 minute ago, Axie said:

And then my last question is, why would anyone believe Brandi?

This is the million dollar question.  Teddi and Kyle sure didn’t waste any time sharing that either.

Kyle whispering when telling Brandi and Kim about the threesome talk at Denise’s, and then again after Brandi and Kim left was pretty ridiculous.  Also, Kyle and Teddi’s faces and immediate “not that there’s anything wrong with that” at Brandi’s Tale of BEING MADE A CHEATER Against Her Will.  I don’t think my laughing through that whole thing was the intended reaction.  But then again, it was margarita night at my house so lots of things are amusing to me right now.

[TexasGal]

5 minutes ago, LibertarianSlut said:

 

And I am concerned.  Because all we got this episode was two seconds of two parties, a dog in a wig, and a story from the town drunk, (albeit likely true).  It has got to get better than this. 

But, dog in a wig for the win!!  Especially dog in a wig sticking it’s gorgeous face right into the camera.

[esco1822]

Wow Kyle, what a super casual call to your housekeeper to ask for dos aguas and a glass of wine en Español.

[LibertarianSlut]

I can’t believe the show actually expects us to believe that Teddi, Kyle and Rinna—who were In LAX together and allegedly on the same flight to Rome—waited until they were in country to tell Lisa what Denise said/did.  That’s the biggest fiction perpetuated on the entire episode.  

After Camille’s wedding, did they even make it out of their hotel driveway in Hawaii before bashing her People magazine article?

Edited July 23, 2020 by LibertarianSlut

[Keywestclubkid]

again I am gonna say this UNLESS Brandi & Denise fucked in front of her 3 daughters this has NOTHING to do with anything .....

[janiema]

By the way, have we ever heard anything more about that one room in one restaurant (of a chain) that Dorit was designing?

[Callaphera]

Brandi: *slaps Denise's ass repeatedly and talks about wanting to be a throuple with Aaron and Denise*
Also Brandi: "I can't believe Denise put me in a cheating situation and it's so awkward and waaaah! So horrible! So evil! Am I relevant again?"

[esco1822]

Brandi:I never wanted to see her in that way again.

Also Brandi: I wanna be in a throuple with you guys.

So is Brandi just in love with Denise and lashing out because her feelings aren’t being reciprocated? Because at the party, she seemed far from upset with Denise but now, all of a sudden, she is a pawn in Vanderpump’s...I mean Denise’s chess game? Nothing adds up here.