Episode Discussion II: The TFGH

[OhIKnow]

On 12/17/2021 at 7:28 PM, KittyQ said:

I thought the Brando/Sasha/Liam story was done really well. I even gave a bit of a pass to Sonny's sharing because no matter the age of the person, it can be very hard to accept that it is time to let them go, and you can feel that you've failed by not saving them somehow. 

Yeah, same. 

Having had to make that decision twice (not for babies), I can tell you it isn't easy and even though your logical brain is telling you it's the right thing to do, your emotions always get the best of you. 

I still hate that Sonny had to be a part of the story at all, but I didn't hate the Mike comparison. 

[seasons]

I noticed that Brandon referred to Liam as "our firstborn" when holding Baby Liam with Sasha at the end.  Maybe a clue that at least he hopes for a future with sasha. They sure are two beautiful people!

I like the chemistry of Sasha and Brandon together and hope they stay together. The actors really brought it for this storyline. How about we bump of Michael and Willow and replace them with Brasha? 

Edited December 19, 2021 by seasons

[threebluestars]

I'm trying to figure out what they DO with Sasha and Brando now. Sad, mourning people are not exactly entertaining for me to watch. Where do they go with storylines now?

I don't want Brando back working for Sonny.

They will also have to deal with the Deception/Conception fall out, so I hope they don't go down the "Sasha does drugs again" route.

But aside from those two ideas, I can't really figure out what else they could involve them in.

 

[30 Helens]

Brando has no ties to anyone but the Corinthos, so I can’t imagine his future not being tied to them. (He has a sort-of/begrudging friendship with TJ, but TJ is invisible, so that’s a dead end.)

They have other options with Sasha. She has ties to Nina, Maxie and Britt (sort of), Chase, Willow and Michael (ugh), there’s a whole Deception business to explore— so there are many stories she could be involved in. But we are talking GH writers here, so… drugs it is.

[AryasMum]

On 12/17/2021 at 8:24 PM, Sake614 said:

For one brief moment I thought the writers might redeem themselves by giving Sasha and Brando a Christmas miracle and having Liam survive. I should’ve known better. What I don’t understand is why anyone thought this was an appropriate story to tell at Christmas?

I’m genuinely shocked that they made this decision. I was convinced the entire time that there would be a Christmas miracle. 

[sunnyface]

2 hours ago, AryasMum said:

What I don’t understand is why anyone thought this was an appropriate story to tell at Christmas?

MB involved.  Check.  Potential Emmy Material.  Check. 

Anytime I see MB/Carly in the hospital, I feel like a barrel of Lysol needs to be sprayed at the end of their scenes. Whenever Sonny (the violent murdering thug) is in the chapel, I also am sending up some prayers.  Unfortunately, those prayers have not yet been answered yet.

[dubbel zout]

Sad things happen even during the holidays. The timing doesn't bother me, as I never wanted Liam to exist in the first place.

[Daisy]

Today's Notes

Phylis: I have friends in Nixon Falls. Sonny: Who?
Me: WHO DO YOU THINK?

Lisel: Jason was a good man. 
Me: STOP IT. HE WAS NOT.
also me: i'm sick and tired of people going to Jason's best friends and saying "god I am so sorry for your loss." GO TO HIS MOTHER AND SAY IT. 

Willow is remembering her son that died, and she needs to split.(funny today she is all glad that Chase was there). Willow hopes she can get cold enough so she can forget about everything. (or you know you could process the death of your son). Willow goes i don't want to make this about me. Chase is like it's okay they aren't on today's show so go ahead. Willow apologizes to BLQ for being a cow. BLQ is like maybe Chase wouldn't have worked hard to be better. (oh BLQ. come on now). 

Laura is telling off Cyrus. Cyrus is all gasp seriously? are you okay?! Laura has no time for him but Cyrus is like I swear to God I didn't try to kill you. lmao. Cyrus says he found Jesus. LOL Laura loses it. (though i stopped laughing when she is all you are so evil, Cyrus, but when I go home i'm gonna be BFFs with equally evil Sonny). 

Spencer and Mistah Sheffield are talking over Kelly Tea. Spencer is all i need no Cassadine monies. Mistah Sheffield is going to help him. Mistah Sheffield is like i respect your decision to ditch Nik. Mistah Sheffield says what Cam said (more eloquently) that virtue and struggle aren't the same thing and you can be more comfortable at the Metrocourt. 

Carly is thinking what if Jason didn't get me to the hospital. Me: then Michael and Carly would be dead and this show would be so much better. Carly is making this all about her. who didn't see this coming. Michael is pouting that Brad is in Jail. The two are all like. Well at least Nina will suffer for her crimes, Brad got out of jail still not suffering for his crimes against their family. 

Lisel and Scotty are flirting. Scotty is saying the preps for the trial isn't going well. Lisel is all "why? i thought you said what Nina did wasn't fraud." (BECAUSE IT'S NOT FRAUD.). Scotty mutters something about this show dragging out this storyline way too long and then wishes he had info that could get this story twisted around. Lisel goes "what about the fact Nina and Sonny fell in love?" Scotty sprays water all over the place and now he's giddy. 

Sonny says he's preoccupied thinking about sasha and brando. Nina goes yah and me too and Peter. He's in PC. oh noes. Sonny clenches not for long, Nina is like you do something about it. I'm just laughing how Charlies is dead empty ever since Phylis took over. anyway she wants to know how Nina is handling running into the man she used to love and still does.  Phylis is prevacaring basically Secrets come out eventually. 

Sonny shows up at MC, and scotty goes to be confrontational. Michael is like if this is about Nina's trial we don't wanna hear it. Sonny is like if you have something to say to me just say it. lol. Scotty backtracks, and Lisel goes thanks for keeping the secret, Scotty goes yah i'm not really. Scotty is basically going to have this stupid love story be announced on the stand on oath. This storyline is so stupid BECAUSE THIS IS NOT A CRIMINAL CASE. oh my. god. Scotty says he needs to find someone else who knows the secret

Michael is stil convinced that Brad is going to go after Wiley, Sonny is like i'll talk to Selina. Michael is like don't worry dad, I remember my gangster baby days, I did it. Carly is like are you trying to start a mob war? Michael is like. meh. Sonny is like how many times have we talked about you not being this part of my life. Michael pouts. 

Mistah Sheffield And Deputy Mayor Ashby talk. Mistah Sheffield was the one who tried to have Laura killed. He wants a worthy adversary.

Edited December 20, 2021 by Daisy

[Daisy]

2 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Sad things happen even during the holidays. The timing doesn't bother me, as I never wanted Liam to exist in the first place.

that's what i've been saying. even if the baby was wanted. still doesn't mean it couldn't happen this time of year. 

 

Edited December 20, 2021 by Daisy

[statsgirl]

Does Michael work? How can he just take off to have breakfast with Carly and Sonny? He's there to whine about Brad getting out of prison. Carly and Michael are indignant that Selina brought Brad to the Metro Court for breakfast. SONNY says that He will talk to her, Michaelsounding like a yappy puppy that he already did. Sonny is secretly relieved that Michael is nowhere near his business because he would destroy it.

"[Jason] saved my life." "He had a habit of that." Sure Carly , and his day job was murdering others.

If Jason hadn't shown up the night [Michael was] born, he wouldn't be standing here right now. So that's a check in the minus column .

Laura busts a gut laughing at the idea that Killer Cyrus found religion. But it only makes Laura look like a hypocrite for supporting praying Sonny who doesn't even pretend to reform.

Phyllis, Nina really should forget about Sonny instead of you always talking about it.

Victor offers to put up Spencer and Esme at the Metro Court. Spencer to his credit turns him down saying he's doing it on his  own. Victor says that that lifestyle is part of being a Cassadine so we know he's evil.

Laura's deputy mayor is evil too. Good help is hard to find in Port Charles.

[dubbel zout]

40 minutes ago, Daisy said:

Michael is stil convinced that Brad is going to go after Wiley

Hello, Mr. Self-Absorbed. I think Brad has better things to do than antagonize your family. Michael is such a stupid little shit. I wish he'd seen Willow and Chase and realized he (Michael) will never quite measure up.

I'm glad Spencer admitted that his and Esmé's terrorizing of Ava got "more than a bit out of hand." They were WAY out of line.

"Is Wiley going to get every single thing on his Christmas list?" "Yeah, he is." Way to set limits, Michael. You are the worst.

Scott, your defense of Nina is THE LAW. Use it to show she didn't commit fraud.

The promo for this week was pretty good. It actually made me want to watch.

OMG, Carly, LEAVE BRAD BE. YOU PEOPLE WON. How am I supposed to find these people rootable? They are the worst bad winners.

5 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

If Jason hadn't shown up the night [Michael was] born, he wouldn't be standing here right now. So that's a check in the minus column .

By far the worst thing he ever did.

[ffwbe]

They should have stretched out the Christmas scenes because today’s episode was mostly boring aside from Victor with Spencer and Laura/Cyrus. The other scenes were rehashed dialogue. Also, Sasha was MIA today but we had to hear Willow make their baby’s death all about her pain and Carly/Michael use it as yet another excuse to talk about Jason? This show never fails 

[statsgirl]

5 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Hello, Mr. Self-Absorbed. I think Brad has better things to do than antagonize your family. Michael is such a stupid little shit. I wish he'd seen Willow and Chase and realized he (Michael) will never quite measure up.

Michael will never realize that because he was given everything on his Santa list and thinks that he's God's gift to women, companies and the world  It is so very gracious of him to accept living the Quartermaine lifestyle and be handed CEO jobs because he knows he's the bestest of the best. Spencer is horrible but he had nothing on Michael.

[dubbel zout]

2 minutes ago, ffwbe said:

Also, Sasha was MIA today but we had to hear Willow make their baby’s death all about her pain

I was fine with this. Willow was in her home. It's not as if she were talking to Sasha in the hospital about the baby she lost. It's pretty natural Willow would think of her dead son.

Michael is the epitome of someone being born on third base and thinking he hit a triple. (I think this is what I mean, lol.)

Liesl's dress was fantastic. I wonder if it was a DVF wrap.

[YaddaYadda]

Both Carly and Michael are alive because of Jason. Thanks for nothing, Jason.

Sonny's face when Michael told him he spoke to Selena was priceless. First, turd, she's Mrs. Wu to you. Second, what you did wasn't talking, it was a temper tantrum worthy of a toddler. Good job, Mr. CEO of fortune 500 companies. Take a seat and shut your face.

I like the actress who plays Phyllis a lot. I just can't stand her character and her so-called advice about Sonny to Nina. Like enough of that. Also, I could have sworn that Charlie's was empty. Those tables were always full back in the day.

Cyrus found religion but still called Sonny to rub it in his face about Jason's death. I'm onboard with that. The second he said that he had nothing to do with the attempt on hers and Martin's life, I knew it had to be Victor who set it up. 

BL looking through the window while Chase and Willow were outside, then Willow watching as Chase and BL were essentially flirting and then putting in her two cents in the middle of small moments was so incredibly annoying.

She can say what she wants, the closer Chase and BL become which they already seem to be becoming, she is going to want Chase back. 

Edited December 20, 2021 by YaddaYadda

[statsgirl]

The only thing that I'm interested in about Victor manipulating is Spencer's reaction when he finds out that his sainted "Uncle Victor" is even more evil the his father. Which way will he jump, embrace his Cassadine side or go good?

5 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

She can say what she wants, the closer Chase and BL become which they already seem to be becoming, she is going to want Chase back. 

At least this triangle makes sense if both Willow and Brook Lynn want Chase. Two women wanting Michael for anything but his money is unbelievable.

Phyllis should open a counseling practice because she's never going to make enough money from customers to survive. 

[Daisy]

4 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Phyllis should open a counseling practice because she's never going to make enough money from customers to survive. 

it blows my mind how fast Charlie's went from bustling to empty.

in re: to Michael. honestly. they should stop w/the CEO crap (because who buys it anyway) and just have him go into the business already. then get shot in the head.

 

[Cheyanne11]

4 minutes ago, Daisy said:

re: to Michael. honestly. they should stop w/the CEO crap (because who buys it anyway) and just have him go into the business already. then get shot in the head.

Again.  And this time there's no Jax around to find a world-renowned clinic for him to be kept alive at.  

[Daisy]

6 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Again.  And this time there's no Jax around to find a world-renowned clinic for him to be kept alive at.  

exactly. bonus points if it hits him in the exact same spot.

i just keep thinking about the AMC Baby Switch and how I was mad at Babe because she knew about the switch, but because she loved Jr (and she thought she lost her baby) she kept the truth from Bianca. and only told Binks about Miranda because Babe realized that her baby wasn't dead either so she could have her kid, screw JR, and "give Binks peace." and Bianca had none of that, gave her the best bitch slap ever and said she only did what was right because she got what she wanted. Babe never showed any real remorse for anything that she did.

That's not brad here at all. again I never watched the whole baby switch. but i did see near the end and Brad was just awash with guilt and wanted to do right by Michael but honestly didn't know how. (was he friends with Nelle too? like was some of this out of protection for Nelle as well?). Brad has never once asked to be in contact with Wiley, actually said he'll stay away from him, he's  never defended his actions, thought what he did was right, none of that. And yet Michael is like but he needs to suffer MORE. I NEED TO PROTECT MY FAMILY FROM BRAD. protect them from what? a Grey's Anatomy marathon?
 

[dubbel zout]

8 minutes ago, Daisy said:

Brad was just awash with guilt and wanted to do right by Michael but honestly didn't know how.

Julian also blackmailed him to keep quiet because Julian knew about the switch and didn't want the Corinthii to also know. There were some layers; it wasn't Brad being a selfish baby-stealer. But Michael doesn't care, he just wants to wring every ounce of revenge out of this as he can. Asshole.

9 minutes ago, Daisy said:

And yet Michael is like but he needs to suffer MORE. I NEED TO PROTECT MY FAMILY FROM BRAD.

Brad stayed away from Wiley once the switch was discovered and he turned over the brat to Michael. That was probably harder then than it would be now. I continue to be astonished the show expects me to be on Michael's side.

[YaddaYadda]

14 minutes ago, Daisy said:

That's not brad here at all. again I never watched the whole baby switch. but i did see near the end and Brad was just awash with guilt and wanted to do right by Michael but honestly didn't know how. (was he friends with Nelle too? like was some of this out of protection for Nelle as well?). Brad has never once asked to be in contact with Wiley, actually said he'll stay away from him, he's  never defended his actions, thought what he did was right, none of that. And yet Michael is like but he needs to suffer MORE. I NEED TO PROTECT MY FAMILY FROM BRAD. protect them from what? a Grey's Anatomy marathon?

The problem is that the show is all about the truth according to the Corinthos clan.

Brad actively lied about Wylie? Yes. Brad is an evil elf who stole Nelle's baby after she gave birth and passed out and then switched healthy baby with dead baby? No. Michael and his inner circle actively hate Nelle and know what a liar she is, but choose to believe this because they were the injured party, so they always have to believe the worst of other people, even though that collection of douchebags are THE worst.

Nina kidnapped Sonny and kept tied to a bed Misery style. No. That's not what happened.

Michael barking at Chase about how he had sex with BL and conceived a child with her but actively made Michael and Willow feel guilty for being disgusting. Clean the wax out of your ears, mop head. You clearly listened to nothing BL just got done explaining. 

AJ is the worst. Julian is the worst, Nina is the worst. Chase is a cheating cheater. Brad stole a baby like Sonny and Carly don't hoard babies.

It's really tiresome. They have 5 seconds of self-awareness, then go back to being the absolute fuckheads we know them to be.

They don't know what to do with Michael. They gave him the child, they gave him the girl. Now he goes around town beating his chest at anyone who will listen and throwing threats around. Nobody cares about Michael trying to swing his tiny little member. 

Edited December 20, 2021 by YaddaYadda

[dubbel zout]

And we're supposed to root for these miserable excuses for human beings.

[KittyQ]

Even though I have my law degree is from "Law and Order U.", I don't understand why Scotty, as Nina's defense attorney said he couldn't call any witnesses, that only the prosecution could do that. Is that a rule in PC, or was Scotty talking about a deliberate strategy? Because I've never heard of a criminal (HAH!!) case where the defense couldn't call witnesses.

[GHScorpiosRule]

2 minutes ago, KittyQ said:

Even though I have my law degree is from "Law and Order U.", I don't understand why Scotty, as Nina's defense attorney said he couldn't call any witnesses, that only the prosecution could do that. Is that a rule in PC, or was Scotty talking about a deliberate strategy? Because I've never heard of a criminal (HAH!!) case where the defense couldn't call witnesses.

it's the FUCKED UP RULE according to Port Charles.

[Blackie]

2 hours ago, Daisy said:

Phylis: I have friends in Nixon Falls. Sonny: Who?
Me: WHO DO YOU THINK?

 

I know !!  that was so stupid.  Also Nina  " ooooh are you going to get rid of Peter, Mike would never kill somebody". I think she was turned on when she should be replulsed

 

and below is something I wrote a few days ago and forgot to post I guess

On 12/17/2021 at 4:55 PM, YaddaYadda said:

She's a new mom to a little boy, playing a fictional new mom who has to take her newborn son off life support. I imagine that this is very emotional for her. 

 

Wasn't there another actress who just had a baby and then she had to play she had a miscarriage or stillbirth or something, I can't remember I just remember the actress saying how hard it was.

When did Sophie have her baby in real life? I wonder if that is still her postpartum bump or padding, anyways I'm glad they are showing that women who just have babies are with a flat belly!! It was a good story, well acted by Brando and Sasha actors but definitely could have done with out the whole Sonny and Mike stuff (and I am a Max Gail fan but am tired of his ghost). Also how many people need to hang around a hospital to "give support". That would have driven me nuts if I was the new mom, I would have told everyone to go home.

[statsgirl]

I think that Brad was Nelle's only friend by that point but she was definitely the dominant one in the relationship.

Julian discouraged Brad from confessing even thought he wanted to because he wanted Lucas to be able to keep Wylie and because he knew how vindictive the Corinthos clan is.

23 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

It's really tiresome. They have 5 seconds of self-awareness, then go back to being the absolute fuckheads we know them to be.

Sonny occasionally does, I'll give him that. Carly, Michael and Joss never do. They have zero self-awareness, complete entitlement, and if they perceive anyone  who goes against them or doesn't give them the respect they are owed (as Cameron did when he accused Jason of killing Franco), they are on the warpath. "Off with their heads and in jail for life"is the family motto.

20 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

And we're supposed to root for these miserable excuses for human beings.

It's beyond belief. Certainly beyond entertainment.

16 minutes ago, KittyQ said:

Even though I have my law degree is from "Law and Order U.", I don't understand why Scotty, as Nina's defense attorney said he couldn't call any witnesses, that only the prosecution could do that. Is that a rule in PC, or was Scotty talking about a deliberate strategy? Because I've never heard of a criminal (HAH!!) case where the defense couldn't call witnesses.

Scott was talking about something pre-trial hoping to get it dismissed before it went to the actual trial but I thought that the arraignment was already done.

11 minutes ago, Blackie said:

Wasn't there another actress who just had a baby and then she had to play she had a miscarriage or stillbirth or something, I can't remember I just remember the actress saying how hard it was.

Sarah Drew on Grey's Anatomy and Caterina Scorsone on Private Practice both had pregnancies written in and dead babies on the show.

Edited December 20, 2021 by statsgirl

[YaddaYadda]

12 minutes ago, Blackie said:

Wasn't there another actress who just had a baby and then she had to play she had a miscarriage or stillbirth or something, I can't remember I just remember the actress saying how hard it was.

I remember Passions (what a throwback!). They had the actress who played Sheridan miscarry her storyline baby after the actress had just had a miscarriage, which I thought was completely gross. 

The actress over at B&B who plays Hope recently wrote a piece about having two miscarriages while her character was going through the loss of her daughter (stillborn). The only difference is that she didn't tell anyone about it.

I wish the writers would scrap pregnancy storylines or not write a real life pregnancy into the show if they're going the "we're killing off the baby" route. 

I know they are actresses and paid to act, but storylines like this are not worth the emotional toll it takes on the person.

Edited December 20, 2021 by YaddaYadda

[hypnotoad]

Quote

This storyline is so stupid BECAUSE THIS IS NOT A CRIMINAL CASE. oh my. god. Scotty says he needs to find someone else who knows the secret

I know lawyers are terrible on this show and I know this isn't a criminal case since no crime was committed but wouldn't the secret be bad for his client? I mean Smike and Nina falling in love just means she had even more reason to keep him a prisoner in NF. So she could do all that identity theft (that's the alleged crime right?) or whatever it is dumb Michael had her pretend charged with.

 

[ulkis]

Willow has been consisting in wanting Michael for over a year now, imo.

Hope they have a Victor and Laura scene soon. I want to know what his agenda is.

Edited December 20, 2021 by ulkis

[dubbel zout]

7 minutes ago, ulkis said:

I want to know what his agenda is.

World domination, of course. He's a Cassadine!

[Tenshinhan]

Sasha and Brando's baby dying around Christmas time works for me.  It's not so much about bad things happening during the holiday season in real life, the show is not reality.  It's more to do with how Christmas itself isn't just about joy and happiness, it's also about tragedy and sorrow.  That's the other side of the holiday season that people often forget.  However, many classic Christmas-themed fiction stories revolve around darkness and grief.  So I think that this dead baby plot is just following in that tradition.

Edited December 20, 2021 by Tenshinhan

[statsgirl]

37 minutes ago, ulkis said:

Willow has been consisting in wanting Michael for over a year now, imo.

Without any competition for Chase.

There was a lot of Chase/Brook Lynn flirting going on today, and Willow noticed..

[racked]

I love that on GH, not telling someone who they are is criminal identity theft, but a valid legal defense is if you had feelings for that person. 

Willow so regrets letting Chase go. I suspect Michael is deeply unsatisfying in bed. 

[Daisy]

1 minute ago, racked said:

I love that on GH, not telling someone who they are is criminal identity theft, but a valid legal defense is if you had feelings for that person. 

Willow so regrets letting Chase go. I suspect Michael is deeply unsatisfying in bed. 

you would know that just by looking at Michael. 

honestly. there is nothing attractive about that man 

[YaddaYadda]

21 minutes ago, racked said:

Willow so regrets letting Chase go. I suspect Michael is deeply unsatisfying in bed. 

No one would be shocked if that were the case. In both cases.

Quote

There was a lot of Chase/Brook Lynn flirting going on today, and Willow noticed..

She was definitely the odd man out in those scenes. When she was putting in her two cents, all I kept thinking was "why are you still here?" and "go away!"

Edited December 21, 2021 by YaddaYadda

[Cheyanne11]

Sonny, Carly, and Michael showing such contempt for the father of one of Sonny's victims is just typical of that disgusting lot.  I don't care how 'harebrained' it is, Scotty needs to get someone to reveal all on the stand so Carly's and Michael's heads both explode, simultaneously, in the courtroom. 

[TVbitch]

Those looks the Willow actress was shooting were probably legit. Let's face it, she got SHAFTED when they rewrote her from fun, dynamic professional woman with super hot boyfriend to meek stepford wife to milquetoast.

I still like the Willow/Chase chemistry better than the BLQ/Chase chemistry, though. Meanwhile, Michael doesn't even have chemistry with Anabelle. 

[Artsda]

Scott's reaction to Sonny and Nina in love line was hilarious.

Carly and Michael caring about law and justice is eye rolling. Jason and Sonny should have been locked up forever. Carly stole identity, Sonny shot Dante to kill him, hanging AJ on a meat hook. 

[ciarra]

3 hours ago, racked said:

I suspect Michael is deeply unsatisfying in bed. 

And out of bed.

[Suicidy]

5 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Julian also blackmailed him to keep quiet because Julian knew about the switch and didn't want the Corinthii to also know. There were some layers; it wasn't Brad being a selfish baby-stealer. But Michael doesn't care, he just wants to wring every ounce of revenge out of this as he can. Asshole.

Brad stayed away from Wiley once the switch was discovered and he turned over the brat to Michael. That was probably harder then than it would be now. I continue to be astonished the show expects me to be on Michael's side.

The writing for CD is just awful.  I wonder if he brings that up to the writing staff.

[Suicidy]

7 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

I was fine with this. Willow was in her home. It's not as if she were talking to Sasha in the hospital about the baby she lost. It's pretty natural Willow would think of her dead son.

Michael is the epitome of someone being born on third base and thinking he hit a triple. (I think this is what I mean, lol.)

Liesl's dress was fantastic. I wonder if it was a DVF wrap.

Your a analogy of SLS is spot on.  I would only add….

”……and then walked to home plate.”

[methodwriter85]

4 hours ago, Tenshinhan said:

Sasha and Brando's baby dying around Christmas time works for me.  It's not so much about bad things happening during the holiday season in real life, the show is not reality.  It's more to do with how Christmas itself isn't just about joy and happiness, it's also about tragedy and sorrow.  That's the other side of the holiday season that people often forget.  However, many classic Christmas-themed fiction stories revolve around darkness and grief.  So I think that this dead baby plot is just following in that tradition.

I have a friend who died of a heroin overdose when we were 27 on the day after Thanksgiving in 2013. He had lingered for a bit on life support before his parents made the choice to take him off. It was a week before my 28th birthday. So yeah, crap happens. I was glad to see this actually being General Hospital for once.

Being a Holiday Season baby, I've always felt there was this underlying sense of grief and darkness and reflection going along with all the Yuletide joy and wishes, and losing my friend at that time really underscored that for me.

Edited December 21, 2021 by methodwriter85

[threebluestars]

Isn't Willow supposed to be in nursing school or something? Or did that drop that so she could be useless?

[Tenshinhan]

2 minutes ago, threebluestars said:

Isn't Willow supposed to be in nursing school or something? Or did they drop that so she could be useless?

Dropped that so she could be useless.

[Daisy]

No it's not dropped. she picked up her schedule the other day. 
She, like Michael talk about doing work, but is never shown doing it. 

[movingtargetgal]

Laura helped bring down Victor and his brother way back in the late 70s/early 80s Ice Princess story line.  The Cassidines had built a weather machine and froze Port Charles in August.  Victor was the only one of the 3 brothers to survive and spent decades in prison.  He has been planning his revenge for 40 years.  Victor's pride had to be hurt when Laura, dressed in a pink evening gown and high heels, held him at bay with a machine gun.  Here is a link to the video.  The Laura/Victor scene starts at 1:35.

 

[Suicidy]

2 hours ago, movingtargetgal said:

Laura helped bring down Victor and his brother way back in the late 70s/early 80s Ice Princess story line.  The Cassidines had built a weather machine and froze Port Charles in August.  Victor was the only one of the 3 brothers to survive and spent decades in prison.  He has been planning his revenge for 40 years.  Victor's pride had to be hurt when Laura, dressed in a pink evening gown and high heels, held him at bay with a machine gun.  Here is a link to the video.  The Laura/Victor scene starts at 1:35.

 

I rewatched that awhile back.  19 year old Genie Francis was so hot holding that rifle.  Great acting chops too.  The good old days.

[Winston Wolfe]

2 hours ago, Suicidy said:

I rewatched that awhile back.  19 year old Genie Francis was so hot holding that rifle.  Great acting chops too.  The good old days.

Jeez, GH was SO good back then.

[BlancheDevoreaux]

12 hours ago, racked said:

Willow so regrets letting Chase go. I suspect Michael is deeply unsatisfying in bed. 

I expect he is like a teenage boy having sex for the first time - doesn't really know what to do with his hands, foreplay is nothing more than a Van Halen song, and he lasts 5 second. BUT, I'm also assuming he turns to her when they are finished and says, "Well you are welcome, Willow Tait" before admiring himself in the mirror. And I'm certain he's sweaty. Why else would his hair always be so nasty?

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1 hour ago, BlancheDevoreaux said:

I expect he is like a teenage boy having sex for the first time - doesn't really know what to do with his hands, foreplay is nothing more than a Van Halen song, and he lasts 5 second. BUT, I'm also assuming he turns to her when they are finished and says, "Well you are welcome, Willow Tait" before admiring himself in the mirror. And I'm certain he's sweaty. Why else would his hair always be so nasty?

A gross image to go with my tea. Thank you so much for that!