lah715 January 28, 2020 Share January 28, 2020 12 minutes ago, SmpIsimon said: TPTB can override the vote of the girls -- hence, Victoria will likely win ROTY, which is ironic given that she is the LEAST liked person on the whole squad. Or seems maybe LEAST like person on this board 😏 2 1 Link to comment
Popular Post SmpIsimon January 28, 2020 Popular Post Share January 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, lah715 said: Or seems maybe LEAST like person on this board 😏 It's both. 12 15 Link to comment
Popular Post go4luca January 28, 2020 Popular Post Share January 28, 2020 10 minutes ago, lah715 said: Or seems maybe LEAST like person on this board 😏 If the squad likes her so much, where are all her BFF photos? It's weird how lacking that content is. If Victoria wins ROTY, I will forever believe TPTB overrode the popular vote. 28 Link to comment
SmpIsimon January 28, 2020 Share January 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, go4luca said: If the squad likes her so much, where are all her BFF photos? It's weird how lacking that content is. If Victoria wins ROTY, I will forever believe TPTB overrode the popular vote. Exactly. Just look at how few of her teammates commented on the Spotlight pix that DCC posted of her. 1 11 Link to comment
scorpio1031 January 28, 2020 Share January 28, 2020 10 minutes ago, go4luca said: If the squad likes her so much, where are all her BFF photos Maybe they all got tired of being shoved out of the way so she could be front and center:) 4 6 Link to comment
lah715 January 28, 2020 Share January 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, go4luca said: If the squad likes her so much, where are all her BFF photos? It's weird how lacking that content is. If Victoria wins ROTY, I will forever believe TPTB overrode the popular vote. Has anyone considered maybe she feels isolated ... I feel bad for her ... if she was not known she would not be such a target for mean posts ... social media has made it clear that anyone that dares to befriend her is a suck up or open to the same social media hazing. She is not going to get ROTY .. its gonna be Lily ... 🙄 5 Link to comment
Popular Post SmpIsimon January 28, 2020 Popular Post Share January 28, 2020 (edited) Any isolation she feels is 100% attributable to her own actions. I have zero pity for her -- well maybe a little for having Tina as a mother. Edited January 28, 2020 by SmpIsimon 4 21 Link to comment
go4luca January 28, 2020 Share January 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, SmpIsimon said: Any isolation she feels is 100% attributable to her own actions. I have zero pity for her -- well maybe a little for Tina as a mother. Exactly. Any legacy knows going in they are going to be under the microscope. So when I see someone shoved down our throats and given Gina's spot ahead of better veteran dancers, then no, I can't consider how isolated they feel. I'm guessing nor can many other ladies on the squad. A legacy knows going in it isn't going to be easy. It was her choice to audition. Along with Tina's. 9 Link to comment
Jazzmom January 28, 2020 Share January 28, 2020 This team is a special sisterhood, and the teammates will make friends for life. At least that is what I’ve heard. It would be hard to believe someone feels isolated amongst the team, and that the girls would stay away from another sister because she isn’t popular in part of the online world. If someone feels isolated, it is probably another reason or reasons. Sounds like the whole team could use a Dale Carnegie course! 1 Link to comment
Popular Post TxBex January 28, 2020 Popular Post Share January 28, 2020 36 minutes ago, go4luca said: Any legacy knows going in they are going to be under the microscope. So when I see someone shoved down our throats and given Gina's spot ahead of better veteran dancers, then no, I can't consider how isolated they feel. I'm guessing nor can many other ladies on the squad. A legacy knows going in it isn't going to be easy. It was her choice to audition. Along with Tina's. I agree, but I don't even think it's a legacy issue though. Victoria gives off a level of entitlement that I didn't feel with Dayton or Madeline Salter. Her preferential treatment by Aunt Kellie has given her show group, triangle positions, social media exposure, etc. before more deserving DCC vets . Every DCC accomplishment she has comes with an asterisk because it's been handed to her, and not rightfully earned. If she feels isolated, she has no one to blame but Victoria. She doesn't exactly come across as concerned with anyone but herself. 25 Link to comment
lah715 January 28, 2020 Share January 28, 2020 32 minutes ago, go4luca said: Exactly. Any legacy knows going in they are going to be under the microscope. So when I see someone shoved down our throats and given Gina's spot ahead of better veteran dancers, then no, I can't consider how isolated they feel. I'm guessing nor can many other ladies on the squad. A legacy knows going in it isn't going to be easy. It was her choice to audition. Along with Tina's. Wow tough group ... As for being stuffed down your throats ... that was CMT's choice ... notice this year because there was no drama from her so they latched on to Merideth and Kat . I am not easily swayed by editing to make assumptions about a person ... or hear say by "anonymous insiders". This girl has done nothing to gain such disdain ... yes she has a foot in the door for being a legacy but beyond that what exactly has she done??? Its not like she pushed someone down the stairs or had a knee taken out to gain a spot .... if we are talking show group (again) that is on Kelly and Company. Anyway we saw the judges they were brutal first year and yes that was Kelly's choice to put her into training camp anyway just like her other pet projects that dont turn out (Briana) ...at least she came back prepared and more mature ... judges noticed that .. some of the negative social media post come off as jealousy and petty . No I am not Tina and no I am not a friend of the family ... I am someone that does not have horse in this race as to where anyone is in the triangle or show group ... just an avid watcher of the show 😏 10 4 Link to comment
Popular Post go4luca January 28, 2020 Popular Post Share January 28, 2020 1 minute ago, lah715 said: I am not easily swayed by editing to make assumptions about a person ... or hear say by "anonymous insiders". This girl has done nothing to gain such disdain ... yes she has a foot in the door for being a legacy but beyond that what exactly has she done??? Its not like she pushed someone down the stairs or had a knee taken out to gain a spot .... if we are talking show group (again) that is on Kelly and Company. Nor am I. Having worked in the film industry since 1988, I am far too familiar with the tricks of editing. Everyone's milage will vary. I'm not here to convince anyone. I've made my judgment of Victoria based on many things. My own eyes and gut have rarely failed me. That is enough for me. 1 26 Link to comment
lah715 January 28, 2020 Share January 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, TxBex said: I agree, but I don't even think it's a legacy issue though. Victoria gives off a level of entitlement that I didn't feel with Dayton or Madeline Salter. Her preferential treatment by Aunt Kellie has given her show group, triangle positions, social media exposure, etc. before more deserving DCC vets . Every DCC accomplishment she has comes with an asterisk because it's been handed to her, and not rightfully earned. If she feels isolated, she has no one to blame but Victoria. She doesn't exactly come across as concerned with anyone but herself. I think the reason it comes off as entitled is drama from CMT ... had the cameras been the other legacy Meredeth (Season 2) constantly we might have a different opinion about her. There is assumption of special treatment but no one knows that truly if so she would have been put on first season no matter what ... special treatment would be say blowing out your knee and sitting out all season and still being kept on (Brooke) that still gets to me. 1 minute ago, go4luca said: Nor am I. Having worked in the film industry since 1988, I am far too familiar with the tricks of editing. Everyone's milage will vary. I'm not here to convince anyone. I've made my judgment of Victoria based on many things. My own eyes and gut have rarely failed me. That is enough for me. Agreed I have no real feeling if she is or not on the team ...everyone will have a different opinion that what makes the boards so great ... if there is unnecessary roughness that gets to me though 3 2 Link to comment
go4luca January 28, 2020 Share January 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, lah715 said: Agreed I have no real feeling if she is or not on the team ...everyone will have a different opinion that what makes the boards so great ... if there is unnecessary roughness that gets to me though I've learned to get some fresh air and let it go. For sanity reasons. Plus my Lab enjoys the one on one play time. 😉 5 Link to comment
Popular Post SmpIsimon January 28, 2020 Popular Post Share January 28, 2020 Some of these comments are hilarious! You can blame the VK dislike on editing, but keep in mind that most of VK's ridiculousness hasn't even been shown. Specifically, things "editing" didn't do: --Show Victoria lying about a medical condition; --Show Victoria lying about going to the Dr. regarding said medical condition; --Show Victoria blaming Jinelle when her lies were uncovered; --Show Victoria winning a "Barbie" two years in a row despite being unable to do a simple turn without falling out; --Show Victoria running to Kelli with gossip about the other girls. But yeah, editing MUST the reason we dislike Victoria. It couldn't have anything to do with the fact that she made training camp one year, and then proceeded to gain a massive amount of weight. Then told multiple lies to excuse the weight gain and finally, when Kelli had NO CHOICE, she was cut. Only to come back next year -- still unable to do a simple turn and with sloppy technique -- to not only make the team, but make SG AND get a plum spot in the triangle that she totally doesn't deserve. Yeah, must be the editing! :eyeroll 1 52 Link to comment
MyFavShows January 29, 2020 Share January 29, 2020 (edited) 53 minutes ago, SmpIsimon said: Some of these comments are hilarious! You can blame the VK dislike on editing, but keep in mind that most of VK's ridiculousness hasn't even been shown. Specifically, things "editing" didn't do: --Show Victoria lying about a medical condition; --Show Victoria lying about going to the Dr. regarding said medical condition; --Show Victoria blaming Jinelle when her lies were uncovered; --Show Victoria winning a "Barbie" two years in a row despite being unable to do a simple turn without falling out; --Show Victoria running to Kelli with gossip about the other girls. But yeah, editing MUST the reason we dislike Victoria. It couldn't have anything to do with the fact that she made training camp one year, and then proceeded to gain a massive amount of weight. Then told multiple lies to excuse the weight gain and finally, when Kelli had NO CHOICE, she was cut. Only to come back next year -- still unable to do a simple turn and with sloppy technique -- to not only make the team, but make SG AND get a plum spot in the triangle that she totally doesn't deserve. Yeah, must be the editing! :eyeroll A huge portion of that stuff was never been proven in a way that can be objectively verified. Yes she gained weight in training camp, but all that stuff about her lying and blaming Jinelle and tattling on others has not been. It’s mostly rumors on here that people can chose to believe or not believe. And we have no evidence at all that VK didn’t deserve her Barbies. If she did that solo from her DCC in motion, IMO it’s the opposite - looked like a beautiful solo and better than a lot of other “Barbie winners” I’ve seen - for ex. some of Maddies. Plus a person falling out of turns in a few tidbits of reality show footage doesn’t completely discredit them as a dancer. Every guest choreographer gave VK stickers this year as did all the GLs. That part was verifiable. Edited January 29, 2020 by MyFavShows 17 Link to comment
GonnahearmeRoar January 29, 2020 Share January 29, 2020 3 hours ago, lah715 said: So Gina and Savannah's dresses yikes ... what were they thinking I like Savannah’s. I was thinking WTF does Maddie have on? Ugliest wallpaper I’ve seen😬 2 7 Link to comment
EricaShadows January 29, 2020 Share January 29, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, MyFavShows said: A huge portion of that stuff was never been proven in a way that can be objectively verified. Yes she gained weight in training camp, but all that stuff about her lying and blaming Jinelle and tattling on others has not been. It’s mostly rumors on here that people can chose to believe or not believe. And we have no evidence at all that VK didn’t deserve her Barbies. If she did that solo from her DCC in motion, IMO it’s the opposite - looked like a beautiful solo and better than a lot of other “Barbie winners” I’ve seen - for ex. some of Maddies. Plus a person falling out of turns in a few tidbits of reality show footage doesn’t completely discredit them as a dancer. Every guest choreographer gave VK stickers this year as did all the GLs. That part was verifiable. I think there was a post on one of Victoria's Instagram posts about the thyroid and the doctor's visits, etc., and she replied to it saying that she indeed "has a thyroid condition" and that the nutritionist prescribed medication for it, but that Victoria didn't like the way the medication made her feel so she took herself off the medication. Ummm . . . . yeah, so much for the thyroid claim not being proven. Plus a nutritionist can't prescribe medication and, if my extremely limited knowledge of thyroid treatment is correct, the medication is not something that an individual can choose to wean themselves off of. It requires specialized treatment. More to come later when I'm not pressed for time (including a screen-grab of Victoria's response if I can find it). Edited January 29, 2020 by EricaShadows 1 13 Link to comment
Popular Post go4luca January 29, 2020 Popular Post Share January 29, 2020 25 minutes ago, MyFavShows said: Every guest choreographer gave VK stickers this year as did all the GLs. That part was verifiable. But how do we know some of that is not editing? Not aimed at you personally. I am suspect of many things on the show. Regardless, I'm not impressed by Victoria's dancing. I find it average at best. They did her a disservice moving her into Gina's spot before she was ready. That early pop up in formation looked bad. 25 Link to comment
Erinbridget January 29, 2020 Share January 29, 2020 I really like Chandi too. I wish she got more attention. 24 Link to comment
scorpio1031 January 29, 2020 Share January 29, 2020 1 minute ago, go4luca said: But how do we know some of that is not editing? Not aimed at you personally. I am suspect of many things on the show. Regardless, I'm not impressed by Victoria's dancing. I find it average at best. They did her a disservice moving her into Gina's spot before she was ready. That early pop up in formation looked bad. Was it Evan Miller complimenting someone to his right? And the camera shows VK, but she was actually on his left and Amanda was on his right? 20 Link to comment
MyFavShows January 29, 2020 Share January 29, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, scorpio1031 said: Was it Evan Miller complimenting someone to his right? And the camera shows VK, but she was actually on his left and Amanda was on his right? I believe that was disproven, and regardless he still gave her a sticker. Things that were for sure shown on show - 1. VK had stickers from everyone 2. VK was highest scoring rookie and scored higher than many vets. She had to be a standout in a positive way in order for those things to happen. Edited January 29, 2020 by MyFavShows 15 Link to comment
scorpio1031 January 29, 2020 Share January 29, 2020 17 minutes ago, MyFavShows said: I believe that was disproven Oh, I'm sorry. That's what I was trying to say. It was disproven that he complimented Victoria. Just another example of CMT creating a narrative. And of course, by them doing it so much, it hurts her in the long run. 13 Link to comment
meg.r January 29, 2020 Share January 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, scorpio1031 said: Oh, I'm sorry. That's what I was trying to say. It was disproven that he complimented Victoria. Just another example of CMT creating a narrative. And of course, by them doing it so much, it hurts her in the long run. IMO everything they do to try and redeem her only hurts her more. A lot of it feels forced, disingenuous or even scripted. 21 Link to comment
Popular Post chabelisaywow January 29, 2020 Popular Post Share January 29, 2020 Judges and guest choreographers who don't follow the script don't get asked back, Same reason girls have to place nice. 2 27 Link to comment
MyFavShows January 29, 2020 Share January 29, 2020 1 hour ago, chabelisaywow said: Judges and guest choreographers who don't follow the script don't get asked back, Same reason girls have to place nice. So all guest choreographers, all judges and all group leaders are lying. Along w/ those who have judged VK at dance competitions throughout the years? Oh and CMT is also in on this vast conspiracy and fakes footage to make it look like she’s been complimented by a guest choreographer when it was really someone else - which would have taken effort to create - but then at the same time they willingly put IN footage of her falling out of a turn at prelims when they could easily just leave that out and help their narrative that she’s amazing? Whats that phrase that the easiest explanation for something is usually the right one. In this case it’s that VK was a standout in training camp and on the team. That’s why she scored really high, got the barbies, got all those stickers, got all that guest choreographer praise...and why she’s on show group. I’m not sure why it’s so easy to believe all these crazy conspiracies, but not all the overwhelming evidence that she’s pretty darn good. 15 Link to comment
go4luca January 29, 2020 Share January 29, 2020 32 minutes ago, KnyghtRyder said: Victoria is pretty, tall, and bright with a big smile and a decent grasp on power Pom dancing. But she’s definitely not the best. And that’s what I don’t like - this narrative that she’s this amazing dancer. I actually feel like the DCC In Motion have done her a complete disservice. Before she was lost in the crowd of poms and hair flips and ‘sexy hips’ and flirty dance faces. For me, DCC In Motion has really highlighted that her skills just do not compare to Caroline, Amber, or Gina. I don’t blame Victoria for that. I blame the TPTB. Pretty: Don't find Victoria pretty. Too much teeth and gums for my taste. Her forehead comes across somewhat masculine to me. Too broad/cro-magnon or something. Then there's the rats nest hair. Ick. Tall: Okay, will concede that. Still don't think she quite knows what to do with those long legs (reference several pages back the discussion about her lack of technique in her fan kicks). Bright?: Umm......."Bull in China..." Yeah, that's a #nope from me. 🤦♀️ Agree 100% on the bolded "not the best, not an amazing dancer" part. 2 14 Link to comment
parrotfeathers January 29, 2020 Share January 29, 2020 Maddie's dress color didn't fit in with the others, but at least it covered her *** and ***. 3 11 Link to comment
go4luca January 29, 2020 Share January 29, 2020 7 minutes ago, KnyghtRyder said: I just meant “bright” as in she stands out. Not that I’d expect her to discuss the troubled literary legacy of Kipling and the detrimental effects of Imperialism during a Show Group visit 😆 Note to Brenda the Judge...please ask that during panel interviews. Please? Just once. 🙏🏻 Gotcha! 😂 3 Link to comment
Popular Post TxBex January 29, 2020 Popular Post Share January 29, 2020 1 hour ago, MyFavShows said: Whats that phrase that the easiest explanation for something is usually the right one. In this case it’s that VK was a standout in training camp and on the team. That’s why she scored really high, got the barbies, got all those stickers, got all that guest choreographer praise...and why she’s on show group. I’m not sure why it’s so easy to believe all these crazy conspiracies, but not all the overwhelming evidence that she’s pretty darn good. Because we've seen her dance! We've seen her fall out of turns. We've seen her heavy leaps. We've seen her miss her marks. We've seen her dance without precise control. We've seen her pop her head early. I have yet to be impressed by any performance I've seen from her. There's a general consensus on who good dancers are like Gina, Bridget and Holly Powell. But there's a general consensus that Victoria is not as good as she's been made out to be. Still waiting to see anything that shows me she's best in the room good. I think you had it right. Whats that phrase that the easiest explanation for something is usually the right one. In this case, Victoria received preferential treatment and a very complimentary tv edit because of her close personal relationship with Kelli (DCC Director and Executive Producer of DCC:MTT). 46 Link to comment
J-R January 29, 2020 Share January 29, 2020 5 hours ago, go4luca said: I've learned to get some fresh air and let it go. For sanity reasons. Plus my Lab enjoys the one on one play time. 😉 Oh My Gosh! I have 2 Labs. Black Boys. 2 Link to comment
go4luca January 29, 2020 Share January 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, J-R said: Oh My Gosh! I have 2 Labs. Black Boys. I've had 2 yellow and my present 103 pounder is a black English Lab male. Sawing serious zzzz's next to me on the bed as I type. 😁 6 Link to comment
J-R January 29, 2020 Share January 29, 2020 1 minute ago, go4luca said: I've had 2 yellow and my present 103 pounder is a black English Lab male. Sawing serious zzzz's next to me on the bed as I type. 😁 Mine are sitting at my feet watching me work and try to catch up on the forum, waiting for me to give them a piece of kibble. What is your boy's name and how old is he? Link to comment
go4luca January 29, 2020 Share January 29, 2020 10 minutes ago, TxBex said: Because we've seen her dance! We've seen her fall out of turns. We've seen her heavy leaps. We've seen her miss her marks. We've seen her dance without precise control. We've seen her pop her head early. I have yet to be impressed by any performance I've seen from her. There's a general consensus on who good dancers are like Gina, Bridget and Holly Powell. But there's a general consensus that Victoria is not as good as she's been made out to be. Still waiting to see anything that shows me she's best in the room good. I think you had it right. Whats that phrase that the easiest explanation for something is usually the right one. In this case, Victoria received preferential treatment and a very complimentary tv edit because of her close personal relationship with Kelli (DCC Director and Executive Producer of DCC:MTT). 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯 Print, publish and frame this one!!! 1 17 Link to comment
Popular Post J-R January 29, 2020 Popular Post Share January 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, go4luca said: I've had 2 yellow and my present 103 pounder is a black English Lab male. Sawing serious zzzz's next to me on the bed as I type. 😁 25 Link to comment
go4luca January 29, 2020 Share January 29, 2020 1 minute ago, J-R said: Mine are sitting at my feet watching me work and try to catch up on the forum, waiting for me to give them a piece of kibble. What is your boy's name and how old is he? Real quick before the mods kill us for forum interruptus: Timeless Legacy, call name "Sinjin" (the original nick name the Brits gave the origin of the breed, the St. John's Water Dog when they exported them to develop into the Labrador Retriever. He's 9.5 yrs young. I've had him since he was a pup. Will send you a pic privately. To keep this somewhat DCC related: Maybe now some here will understand why Bridget's vet tech training and love of dogs initially drew me to liking her so much. Dogs know when someone is genuine. You can't fool them, they sense when someone is fake or disingenuous. 16 Link to comment
Agent Gully January 29, 2020 Share January 29, 2020 From photos of DCC taken at social events, I haven't seen that many with Victoria. I would guess that she may be viewed as someone who might talk to TK or Kelli about them and that when with her socially they have to be guarded in what they say and do. Much easier not to invite her, it doesn't mean they hate her, but they can relax more when not in her company. Until exposed to diverse groups of people and gaining more experience in "the real world", Victoria will react and behave as she has been allowed to in her life up to this point. If you are allowed to get away with things and there are few to no admonishments, chances are your behaviors will continue until finally corrected (usually by a new peer group). Kelli giving her perks before she had earned them was a huge disservice to Victoria and IMO has made it harder for VK to grow up, face consequences, and make genuine friends. On another note, I liked Maddie's dress, maybe simply because it was so colorful. Everything here in winter is so dull and drab. It gave me hope for warmer weather in a few months! 16 Link to comment
sATL January 29, 2020 Share January 29, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Agent Gully said: On another note, I liked Maddie's dress, maybe simply because it was so colorful. Everything here in winter is so dull and drab. It gave me hope for warmer weather in a few months! I liked it too. I liked it because it was different, than the norm. The DCC has a tendency to kinda have the same dress style at events in dress clothes, even down to the shoes. Is it because of the sponsorship with Belk - so everyone is shopping at the same store? Are they not allowed to wear dress pants? flats? Edited January 29, 2020 by sATL 6 Link to comment
pinkandsparkly13 January 29, 2020 Share January 29, 2020 I was thinking about the rookie of the year discussion from before and when I was counting all the girls in my mind, for some reason I totally forgot about Kat and Meredith. And both of them have been pretty talked about. Lol Sometimes I just forget some girls. But just now I realized I didn't remember Lisa at all! Now there would be the most surprising girl to get ROTY, I think. 1 1 Link to comment
MyFavShows January 29, 2020 Share January 29, 2020 2 hours ago, TxBex said: Because we've seen her dance! We've seen her fall out of turns. We've seen her heavy leaps. We've seen her miss her marks. We've seen her dance without precise control. We've seen her pop her head early. I have yet to be impressed by any performance I've seen from her. There's a general consensus on who good dancers are like Gina, Bridget and Holly Powell. But there's a general consensus that Victoria is not as good as she's been made out to be. Still waiting to see anything that shows me she's best in the room good. I think you had it right. Whats that phrase that the easiest explanation for something is usually the right one. In this case, Victoria received preferential treatment and a very complimentary tv edit because of her close personal relationship with Kelli (DCC Director and Executive Producer of DCC:MTT). It’s really only a general consensus on this board that she can’t dance - many, many fans think she’s a great dancer and so do many crédible people in the dance industry. And just cause she’s not as good as Holly Powell doesn’t mean she isn’t good enough to be a star DCC and on show group - more than a third of the team is on show group. I mean Maddie is a star DCC and she’s shown bad technique and turn issues all the time on the show - no one is obsessed w/ that and says it’s a vast conspiracy involving every judge, GL, guest choreographer, etc. that she gets the attention that she does. 13 3 Link to comment
Popular Post Tulip86 January 29, 2020 Popular Post Share January 29, 2020 Maybe because this is the only place where you don't get skinned alive for saying she's a mediocre dancer 32 Link to comment
GonnahearmeRoar January 29, 2020 Share January 29, 2020 6 hours ago, KnyghtRyder said: Agreed! But I think something like this dress would have been a better silhouette for her - demure but bright and flirty without being “grandma”: That would have been perfect and age appropriate. 9 Link to comment
ByTor January 29, 2020 Share January 29, 2020 7 hours ago, MyFavShows said: CMT is also in on this vast conspiracy and fakes footage to make it look like she’s been complimented by a guest choreographer when it was really someone else - which would have taken effort to create Effort that all reality shows put in to tell the story they want to tell. 5 hours ago, Agent Gully said: From photos of DCC taken at social events, I haven't seen that many with Victoria. I would guess that she may be viewed as someone who might talk to TK or Kelli about them and that when with her socially they have to be guarded in what they say and do. Much easier not to invite her, it doesn't mean they hate her, but they can relax more when not in her company. Could be...or it could be that they don't want another Jenna/Holly situation with an underage girl. 4 Link to comment
Popular Post hannahbanana January 29, 2020 Popular Post Share January 29, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, MyFavShows said: It’s really only a general consensus on this board that she can’t dance - many, many fans think she’s a great dancer and so do many crédible people in the dance industry. And just cause she’s not as good as Holly Powell doesn’t mean she isn’t good enough to be a star DCC and on show group - more than a third of the team is on show group. I mean Maddie is a star DCC and she’s shown bad technique and turn issues all the time on the show - no one is obsessed w/ that and says it’s a vast conspiracy involving every judge, GL, guest choreographer, etc. that she gets the attention that she does. Actually, Maddie is criticized quite a bit on here for her poor technique & horrible kicks, not to mention her terrible hip hop & the fact that her solo this year was a repeat of last year's solo. Her hair, weight, & looks (too young looking/no glam) also get criticized quite a bit. The majority on here are not happy that she was in the triangle last year or co-point this year & post about it quite a bit. Many believe she only got triangle & co-point, not because she's a great dancer/star DCC, but because she's a goody two-shoes who toes the company line & doesn't make waves (Kelli et al making a point after the Holly/Jenna/Erica snafus). The difference is is that there isn't a group of staunch pro-Maddie posters taking exception & posting rebuttals to every post that is critical of Maddie insisting that it isn't so because she's the best of the best/can do no wrong. So, instead of page after page of back and forth over every criticism, there's a few posts back and forth & then people move on to something else. Edited January 29, 2020 by hannahbanana 1 53 Link to comment
mizzhyer January 29, 2020 Share January 29, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, KnyghtRyder said: Agreed! But I think something like this dress would have been a better silhouette for her - demure but bright and flirty without being “grandma”: I love that dress!!! My daughter (she's 26 and loves vintage clothes) has one in dark green that's almost identical to it 🙂 It has a really cute vintage look. It's super flattering to most body types and even I can carry it off with my stocky 5'3 frame!! I would love to see Maddie in something like this 🙂 7 hours ago, sATL said: I liked it too. I liked it because it was different, than the norm. The DCC has a tendency to kinda have the same dress style at events in dress clothes, even down to the shoes. Is it because of the sponsorship with Belk - so everyone is shopping at the same store? Are they not allowed to wear dress pants? flats? Molly had on a pant suit but I don't guess that matters since she is retiring. 🙂 Edited January 29, 2020 by mizzhyer 5 Link to comment
mizzhyer January 29, 2020 Share January 29, 2020 12 hours ago, Erinbridget said: I really like Chandi too. I wish she got more attention. I love Chandi 🙂 I think she is absolutely adorable and she is a good dancer!! I would love to see Kelcey and Kristin featured a little more as well. Just my opinion 🙂 22 Link to comment
lah715 January 29, 2020 Share January 29, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, TxBex said: Because we've seen her dance! We've seen her fall out of turns. We've seen her heavy leaps. We've seen her miss her marks. We've seen her dance without precise control. We've seen her pop her head early. I have yet to be impressed by any performance I've seen from her. There's a general consensus on who good dancers are like Gina, Bridget and Holly Powell. But there's a general consensus that Victoria is not as good as she's been made out to be. Still waiting to see anything that shows me she's best in the room good. I think you had it right. Whats that phrase that the easiest explanation for something is usually the right one. In this case, Victoria received preferential treatment and a very complimentary tv edit because of her close personal relationship with Kelli (DCC Director and Executive Producer of DCC:MTT). Complimentary tv edit???? The girl will be forever on Pluto TV and CMT with mascara stained face 🤣🤣 (once 13 is on there) Edited January 29, 2020 by lah715 clarification 4 2 Link to comment
EricaShadows January 29, 2020 Share January 29, 2020 About the "thyroid" issue, 7 weeks ago, Victoria said the following in response to a question: "Hi! About two months after I was cut I quit taking my thyroid meds and quit going to the nutritionist that put me on the meds. I didn’t like the way the meds made me feel. My thyroid is on the slower end but it’s ok!" I'll take that as proof for some of the claims about her thyroid issue. She was confronted in a highly-edited segment about the doctor's office and the fact that Kelli couldn't bring herself to actually say Victoria was lying when she said "something happened prior to rehearsal between Jinelle and Victoria. Jinelle volunteered her time to help Victoria with nutrition and I'm not accusing anybody of dishonesty but there is something not adding up and I want to explore that." Sounds like someone knows a certain person (and it isn't Jinelle) is lying, doesn't want to call her out on it, but wants to find out what is going on. 3 17 Link to comment
lah715 January 29, 2020 Share January 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, EricaShadows said: About the "thyroid" issue, 7 weeks ago, Victoria said the following in response to a question: "Hi! About two months after I was cut I quit taking my thyroid meds and quit going to the nutritionist that put me on the meds. I didn’t like the way the meds made me feel. My thyroid is on the slower end but it’s ok!" I'll take that as proof for some of the claims about her thyroid issue. She was confronted in a highly-edited segment about the doctor's office and the fact that Kelli couldn't bring herself to actually say Victoria was lying when she said "something happened prior to rehearsal between Jinelle and Victoria. Jinelle volunteered her time to help Victoria with nutrition and I'm not accusing anybody of dishonesty but there is something not adding up and I want to explore that." Sounds like someone knows a certain person (and it isn't Jinelle) is lying, doesn't want to call her out on it, but wants to find out what is going on. I think that was highly edited also ... but anyone that has a weight issue knows we beat ourselves up worse than any comment from strangers/colleagues/friends. I wouldnt wish that situation for anyone ...its uncomfortable to address and admit you feel like a failure even strict diet and exercise or stress binge eat 😥 There is no way Jinelle could ever understand what that is like she can sympathize and advise but unless you are in that situation you cant really know it. Its like trying to explain to a guy about cramps with your period 🙄😏🤣 2 3 Link to comment
evasworld123 January 29, 2020 Share January 29, 2020 12 hours ago, KnyghtRyder said: I rewatched the Victoria/Jinelle scene in S13. In this instance, I think they actually tried to edit the footage in an attempt to make Victoria a more sympathetic character (as opposed to the villain vs sweet beautiful Jinelle). Viewing it closely, it seems like it’s shown out of order and the conversation sounds incredibly stilted. Even through this choppy editing, you could still see how pissed Kelli was, specifically when she tells Victoria that she needs to view DCC TC like a job. Kelli herself used the words “lying” and “dishonesty,” and both Jinelle and Kelli - in front of the cameras - specifically asked Victoria why she never responded to Jinelles communication attempts. It’s evident that something happened here - more than what the final edited product actually showed us. This 1000%. That scene was heavily edited to make her look better, not worse. Everyone on this board and in life has been dishonest at some point. What’s important is that you own up to it. Be accountable. Regarding the Maddie comparisons, the difference is that Maddie is a vet who has been around four years. VK is a rookie. The show has shown that VK falls out of turns — repeatedly. That being said I do think she is fun to watch and has a bold presence on the field. I enjoy the fact that she’s confident and always appears to be having fun. The irony of the whole VK situation to me is that if TPTB stopped promoting her so much, people would warm up to her. It’s the forced nature of it that’s not helping. 19 Link to comment
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