MyFavShows January 2, 2020 Share January 2, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Loves2Dance said: I didn't realize I shared a birthday with Jalyn. I wouldn't read too much into it, it's a holiday and a lot of people are recovering from NYE parties. You can not focus on ballet as a primary and still come away with a stronger core; which is what my comments were originally about. Victoria isn't the only DCC with lackluster technique, she also isn't the first and won't be the last, but unlike other blenders, she is being showcased in avenues that highlight her lack of technique where others would be hidden. She is not a “blender” at all. She stands out for her power, performance, looks and body type. Lol. Blenders are girls like Brennan, Alanna, Christina, Lily, etc. And there have been plenty of “showcased“ girls w/ less than perfect ballet technique. Much worse than VKs in fact. Maddie, Amy, Hannah, Kashara, etc. - all worse ballet technique than VK - are they not “featured” and on SG? Having good ballet technique doesn’t mean you deserve to be featured on a team like DCC. It also doesn’t always make you fun to watch or something fans want to see - thus why so many good ballet dancers often get cut. Edited January 2, 2020 by MyFavShows 3 2 Link to comment
UnicornKicksBack January 2, 2020 Share January 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, Loves2Dance said: Victoria isn't the only DCC with lackluster technique, she also isn't the first and won't be the last, but unlike other blenders, she is being showcased in avenues that highlight her lack of technique where others would be hidden. This. Right. Here. I think she could’ve made it this year on her own. But then they continue to shove her down our throats and present her as an amazing showstopper and technical dancer, and she is not. I think she thinks she’s a lot better at lyrical than she is, so she focused on what she liked and what she was good at, not what she needed to be a DCC or well rounded dancer. Technique is more and more and more important each year as talent gets better but you can’t deny some of the REAL showstoppers, best case in point Nicole Freakin Hamilton, who had very little dance training and not much technique, but dang she had IT. Raw talent and IT. VK had the potential to grow and eventually become better and make it to triangle , like what should’ve been Heathers case, but instead they shove her everywhere and try to sell how amazing she is. Also - Kelli God love her is not the best judge of technique and gets caught up in tricks - half assed tricks especially re: Melissa, Maddie, everybody who copied Erica’s same combos - so maybe she really thinks VK Is that good. Judy Trammell knows technique but is going to keep her mouth shut and accept it is what it is, but I would love to hear her honest take on the whole thing. Anythin she says is going to be answers with a BUT CASSIE so she knows to just work Lil Precious in there and keep sweet about it. 22 Link to comment
Popular Post Loves2Dance January 2, 2020 Popular Post Share January 2, 2020 15 minutes ago, NinjaMom11 said: BUT we all know if it were Victoria’s Bday...the narrative would be no one wished her happy bday because she’s a horrible person, proof she’s hated and they just wish she’d eat glass. Am I Right? I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens on her birthday. No clue when that is, but it'll pop up eventually. 12 minutes ago, MyFavShows said: She is not a “blender” at all. She stands out for her power, performance, looks and body type. Lol. Blenders are girls like Brennan, Alanna, Christina, Lily, etc. And there have been plenty of “showcased“ girls w/ less than perfect ballet technique. Much worse than VKs in fact. Maddie, Amy, Hannah, Kashara, etc. - all worse ballet technique than VK - are they not “featured” and on SG? Having good ballet technique doesn’t mean you deserve to be featured on a team like DCC. It also doesn’t always make you fun to watch or something fans want to see - thus why so many good ballet dancers often get cut. I didn't say Victoria was a blender, I said she should be. Her power is as much a weakness as it is a strength because it's the thing that makes her stand out when she messes up. I also said the ballet comment was moreso a testament to her lack of core. Maddie, Amy, Hannah and Kashara don't fall out out of turns consistently, which is another red flag of an underdeveloped core. I also would never put Maddie, Amy, Hannah or Kashara next to Caroline in choreography and expect them to leap with the same skill and height; one is trained with technique for days and the others aren't. This is where Victoria should have been blended, not given a showcase section doing something she doesn't do well. And that is the story of Victoria's year. She was put into positions within routines that rookies traditionally aren't and she did not shine. The question has never been can Victoria dance...because even I have agreed that she could have made the team on her own if the year prior had never happened. The question is, is she good enough to warrant the extraness she's been getting and the answer to that, in my opinion, is no. She is not a dance rock star like Kashara, she doesn't have the sultry dance pop of Holly, or the technical dance skills of Lacey. She should be a blender to gift her more time to hone the style and learn the muscle memory so that when the day came that she was pushed to the front, she wouldn't be the one getting picked apart because she wouldn't be making the mistakes. 4 58 Link to comment
Popular Post Tuxcat January 2, 2020 Popular Post Share January 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Loves2Dance said: And that is the story of Victoria's year. She was put into positions within routines that rookies traditionally aren't and she did not shine. The question has never been can Victoria dance...because even I have agreed that she could have made the team on her own if the year prior had never happened. The question is, is she good enough to warrant the extraness she's been getting and the answer to that, in my opinion, is no. Completely agree and I like Victoria. She is not a showstopper performer in any capacity yet. She could be. She could develop. I think DCC is doing her a disservice at the moment. Take the spotlight off. Give her time and quiet guidance. If she's a true superstar she will naturally rise on her own. Right now, they are highlighting nothing but her obvious youth. 48 Link to comment
DCC-fan94 January 2, 2020 Share January 2, 2020 In this performance from the Christmas Spectacular, you can see bridget as a stand out dancer, at 1:09, se looks so powerful and tbh she is the best in the squad right now. And unpopular opinion, Caroline is blah and boring. (not as much as VK) 5 Link to comment
Lona January 2, 2020 Share January 2, 2020 12 hours ago, tteek74 said: I hope she stays another year. And then after that, many years more! 😉 #GoBrennan ! 8 Link to comment
DCC-UK January 2, 2020 Share January 2, 2020 1 hour ago, DCC-fan94 said: In this performance from the Christmas Spectacular, you can see bridget as a stand out dancer, at 1:09, se looks so powerful and tbh she is the best in the squad right now. And unpopular opinion, Caroline is blah and boring. (not as much as VK) I have to say that Jalyn looks incredible on this, both in the triangle and on the box platform. Amanda looks great at point of the triangle on the floor but sluggish on the box. I think VK's problem is she has too much energy and feels the need to dance over the top all the time. There's a difference between power and messy. She's just very big all the time. Kelcey behind her on the box looks clean and precise. 23 Link to comment
UnicornKicksBack January 2, 2020 Share January 2, 2020 3 hours ago, DCC-fan94 said: And unpopular opinion, Caroline is blah and boring. I’m with you. 1 hour ago, DCC-UK said: I have to say that Jalyn looks incredible on this, both in the triangle and on the box platform. Amanda looks great at point of the triangle on the floor but sluggish on the box. I think VK's problem is she has too much energy and feels the need to dance over the top all the time. There's a difference between power and messy. She's just very big all the time. Kelcey behind her on the box looks clean and precise. Yes, yes, and yes. what is the guy saying about “the one in the bottom middle at the end of the kickline jumpsplit? 2 Link to comment
ByTor January 2, 2020 Share January 2, 2020 25 minutes ago, UnicornKicksBack said: what is the guy saying about “the one in the bottom middle at the end of the kickline jumpsplit? I swear before he said the "bottom middle" thing it sounded like something about having a "great boomerang" 4 Link to comment
dreamcatcher January 2, 2020 Share January 2, 2020 6 hours ago, Loves2Dance said: I didn't realize I shared a birthday with Jalyn. I wouldn't read too much into it, it's a holiday and a lot of people are recovering from NYE parties. You can not focus on ballet as a primary and still come away with a stronger core; which is what my comments were originally about. Victoria isn't the only DCC with lackluster technique, she also isn't the first and won't be the last, but unlike other blenders, she is being showcased in avenues that highlight her lack of technique where others would be hidden. Happy birthday! 6 hours ago, NinjaMom11 said: Yes! Exactly this. I have a ballet background but I certainly wouldn’t judge a DCC for not focusing on that genre growing up. Look at Maddie and Kashara...obviously no ballet background there and everyone loves their dance style for what it is. I can just appreciate each girl’s style & strong points that contribute to the team as a whole. It’d be so boring to see a bunch of technically perfect ballerinas out there! That’s something I don’t understand. In Europe (at least in a lot of countries, haven’t researched all of them), you can’t possibly go into lyrical or contemporary without going into ballet first and in order to advance you need to pass your exams even if you’re not going pro. Maddie and Kashara were never going into that style so of course they won’t be that interested in ballet. But Lacey and Caroline have obviously had a lot of training in ballet... i don’t know, it just looks to me like competition studios aren’t that much about actually being a good dancer, but more about how you can win competitions with tricks etc. 11 Link to comment
parrotfeathers January 2, 2020 Share January 2, 2020 I think they ALL looked amazing! 3 Link to comment
mizzhyer January 2, 2020 Share January 2, 2020 On 12/31/2019 at 1:55 PM, go4luca said: In my next life, if I could have legs this toned and a booty this firm and lifted, I could die happy. Please and thank you. 🙌 You and me both!! 🙂 1 14 Link to comment
mizzhyer January 2, 2020 Share January 2, 2020 20 hours ago, Muckypup61 said: Just because she doesn't get enough recognition, IMHO. She was my favorite in her rookie class....and she's my favorite veteran now!! I hope she stays another year because they really need her 🙂 12 Link to comment
mizzhyer January 2, 2020 Share January 2, 2020 16 hours ago, scorpio1031 said: I think this is a good one of Taylor she looks a lot like Brennan here 🙂 2 Link to comment
mizzhyer January 2, 2020 Share January 2, 2020 7 hours ago, DCC-fan94 said: In this performance from the Christmas Spectacular, you can see bridget as a stand out dancer, at 1:09, se looks so powerful and tbh she is the best in the squad right now. And unpopular opinion, Caroline is blah and boring. (not as much as VK) Just an aside, I really enjoyed watching the DCRB dancers in this video 🙂 4 Link to comment
mizzhyer January 2, 2020 Share January 2, 2020 16 hours ago, Muckypup61 said: I love the high kicks! Wow! I miss Lacey kicking herself in the nose!😄 She's no Lacey, but that is a pretty kick! 5 Link to comment
Popular Post go4luca January 2, 2020 Popular Post Share January 2, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, UnicornKicksBack said: I think she could’ve made it this year on her own. But then they continue to shove her down our throats and present her as an amazing showstopper and technical dancer, and she is not. VK had the potential to grow and eventually become better and make it to triangle , like what should’ve been Heathers case, but instead they shove her everywhere and try to sell how amazing she is. 12 hours ago, Loves2Dance said: And that is the story of Victoria's year. She was put into positions within routines that rookies traditionally aren't and she did not shine. The question has never been can Victoria dance...because even I have agreed that she could have made the team on her own if the year prior had never happened. The question is, is she good enough to warrant the extraness she's been getting and the answer to that, in my opinion, is no. She is not a dance rock star like Kashara, she doesn't have the sultry dance pop of Holly, or the technical dance skills of Lacey. She should be a blender to gift her more time to hone the style and learn the muscle memory so that when the day came that she was pushed to the front, she wouldn't be the one getting picked apart because she wouldn't be making the mistakes. 11 hours ago, Tuxcat said: Completely agree and I like Victoria. She is not a showstopper performer in any capacity yet. She could be. She could develop. I think DCC is doing her a disservice at the moment. Take the spotlight off. Give her time and quiet guidance. If she's a true superstar she will naturally rise on her own. Right now, they are highlighting nothing but her obvious youth. All. The. Above. Part of me still feels her first rookie season was a set-up to bring her back as some shining comeback star. For me, it utterly backfired. Although I'm not a fan of Victoria's look, I don't hate her. But the constant shoving her down our throats and into our face, has only resulted in me disliking her more. If they had only kept her amongst the rookies and allowed her time to refine and polish, perhaps more of us would be more receptive of her. She is not deserving to be placed ahead of more seasoned, more deserving veterans. She did not earn it. So in my opinion, TPTB, only hurt Victoria. If Victoria wins ROTY, I will forever feel it's a sham. I see no close relationships with her teammates and my understanding is they are who vote on ROTY. I hope for her sake, Kelli doesn't override the team vote. I still feel this is what happened to Heather re: PB. I can't prove it, it's just my gut feeling and my opinion. I am dreading next season featuring Victoria as a veteran showing the rookies how everything is done. Don't even get me started on the calendar shoot. Please PTB, don't go out of your way to feature Vic or put her on a cover. Let her rise in the DCC happen more organically. If you don't, you certainly aren't doing her any favors. Especially among her own teammates. Just my 2 cents worth which I know matters nothing to the organization. Edited January 2, 2020 by go4luca 47 Link to comment
rl27rl January 2, 2020 Share January 2, 2020 On 12/24/2019 at 9:30 PM, Holly85 said: Look who got a solo dcc in motion Every time she lifts her dress in this video and the other video (Not that I can stomach watching the entire thing), it reminds me of Elizabeth Berkley in Showgirls . . . 14 1 Link to comment
DCC-fan94 January 2, 2020 Share January 2, 2020 8 hours ago, DCC-UK said: I have to say that Jalyn looks incredible on this, both in the triangle and on the box platform. Amanda looks great at point of the triangle on the floor but sluggish on the box. I think VK's problem is she has too much energy and feels the need to dance over the top all the time. There's a difference between power and messy. She's just very big all the time. Kelcey behind her on the box looks clean and precise. Yea, Jalyn looks awesome too on this, definitely a powerhouse, but i'll stop to talk about Jalyn bc makes me remember abt the nasty things she have been through all this year bc of an mediocre Kelli and damn VK 😞 and makes me sick... but like one person said about Bridget, i can also say abt Jalyn that im a life-fan of her ❤️ 10 Link to comment
MyFavShows January 2, 2020 Share January 2, 2020 6 hours ago, dreamcatcher said: TeRoi Happy birthday! That’s something I don’t understand. In Europe (at least in a lot of countries, haven’t researched all of them), you can’t possibly go into lyrical or contemporary without going into ballet first and in order to advance you need to pass your exams even if you’re not going pro. Maddie and Kashara were never going into that style so of course they won’t be that interested in ballet. But Lacey and Caroline have obviously had a lot of training in ballet... i don’t know, it just looks to me like competition studios aren’t that much about actually being a good dancer, but more about how you can win competitions with tricks etc. Most US competition studios do ballet, it’s just not their primary focus as their dancers do not aspire to be ballerinas. My daughter is at a pretty serious comp studio and her and her peers in the senior advanced group do 5.5hrs/week of ballet - that’s the max out physically at her studio - anyone that wants “more ballet” is going extra to a ballet school or paying for privates that are really expensive (a few do this as they are really serious and their families spare no expense). The rest of her technique is leaps & turns 3hrs, combo/improv 3 hours, and Acro 1hr (she could do more of this and most of the younger kids do). She also could do tap for another 1.5 hours a week but choses not to. Then the competition groups all come in on weekends and learn choreo, run dances, do privates, etc. It is a pretty full week - dance alone is a good 16 hours or more a week spread over 4-5 days out of a 7 day week. And some of them do stuff like cheer for their school or other sports as well, in addition to going to school and social life stuff. Now if you compare that to a ballet focused school, ballet schools would spend that entire 16 hours doing only ballet. Some are like 24+ hours a week of ballet and then other styles on top of that, and a good portion of their dancers are homeschooled and hoping to be ballerina when they graduate. These types of schools do showcase performances like the nutcracker and don’t necessarily compete. All the negativity towards competition dancers cause they “don’t do enough ballet” and focus only on tricks is really unwarranted as they work very hard and many are beautiful dancers who are very entertaining to watch. 2 Link to comment
MyFavShows January 2, 2020 Share January 2, 2020 1 hour ago, rl27rl said: Every time she lifts her dress in this video and the other video (Not that I can stomach watching the entire thing), it reminds me of Elizabeth Berkley in Showgirls . . . Last thing I think of is a showgirl when I watch that dance. She’s a beautiful dancer. It blows my mind that people can’t see that and focus in her doing things like grabbing her shirt a few times just to find something negative. I believe the narratives on this site and bad first impressions of her mom over the Chandler grandma incident are really clouding people’s judgement when it comes to VKs dancing. They have been for a very long time. 19 Link to comment
Popular Post go4luca January 2, 2020 Popular Post Share January 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, MyFavShows said: I believe the narratives on this site and bad first impressions of her mom over the Chandler grandma incident are really clouding people’s judgement when it comes to VKs dancing. They have been for a very long time. I can't speak for anyone else, but at the moment, I can't even recall what the Chandler grandma incident is so that doesn't influence my opinion. My take on Victoria's dancing is based on my own years of training and knowing the mechanics of proper technique which @Loves2Dance has far better explained than I've had the patience to do. 37 Link to comment
Muckypup61 January 2, 2020 Share January 2, 2020 19 minutes ago, go4luca said: I can't speak for anyone else, but at the moment, I can't even recall what the Chandler grandma incident is so that doesn't influence my opinion. My take on Victoria's dancing is based on my own years of training and knowing the mechanics of proper technique which @Loves2Dance has far better explained than I've had the patience to do. I believe TK and Melissa referred to Chandler C. as "looking like a grandma". On this forum it's Season 9, Episode 6, page 3. 3 1 Link to comment
go4luca January 2, 2020 Share January 2, 2020 From Erin's IG story. My take is this was in honor of Jalyn's b'day. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. 16 Link to comment
MyFavShows January 2, 2020 Share January 2, 2020 38 minutes ago, Muckypup61 said: I believe TK and Melissa referred to Chandler C. as "looking like a grandma". On this forum it's Season 9, Episode 6, page 3. Then shortly after it Chandler was cut and the majority of this board has hated TK since. I think the Chandler incident was one of her first speaking features on the show. 1 Link to comment
klopie January 2, 2020 Share January 2, 2020 19 minutes ago, go4luca said: From Erin's IG story. My take is this was in honor of Jalyn's b'day. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. You’re right as this immediately followed a story about her forgetting to post on the right day but she wished Jalyn a happy birthday in a pic of just the 2 of them. 6 Link to comment
Popular Post Lunacat January 2, 2020 Popular Post Share January 2, 2020 7 minutes ago, MyFavShows said: Then shortly after it Chandler was cut and the majority of this board has hated TK since. I think the Chandler incident was one of her first speaking features on the show. Not fair to paint this board with a broad brush. TK made a rude comment but it did not color my opinion of VK.... any opinion I hold of VK is due to VK’s own actions as shown on the show. 37 Link to comment
MyFavShows January 2, 2020 Share January 2, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, go4luca said: I can't speak for anyone else, but at the moment, I can't even recall what the Chandler grandma incident is so that doesn't influence my opinion. My take on Victoria's dancing is based on my own years of training and knowing the mechanics of proper technique which @Loves2Dance has far better explained than I've had the patience to do. Well I have a lot of experience and knowledge of proper dance technique as well - I’ve been emerged in it for going on 12 years now and spend a considerable portion of my time and money on dance training and watching young dancers perform and be judged...and in my opinion Victoria is good and that the vast majority of people involved in today’s dance scene would agree. She may not be everyone’s favorite type or style, but I seriously question the judgment of anyone who would call her a “bad dancer” or someone with “bad technique”. Especially when the frame of reference that she’s being compared to is the DCC, and especially after watching that solo. Edited January 2, 2020 by MyFavShows 7 2 Link to comment
MyFavShows January 2, 2020 Share January 2, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Lunacat said: Not fair to paint this board with a broad brush. TK made a rude comment but it did not color my opinion of VK.... any opinion I hold of VK is due to VK’s own actions as shown on the show. So your judging her dancing on her non-dance actions that were portrayed on a highly edited reality show? Cause that’s what I mean. It’s personal preconceptions about her (mostly related to her mom) that are clouding the judgement on her dancing. Edited January 2, 2020 by MyFavShows 1 Link to comment
Popular Post Jess14 January 2, 2020 Popular Post Share January 2, 2020 7 minutes ago, MyFavShows said: She may not be everyone’s favorite type or , style, but I seriously question the judgment of anyone who would call her a “bad dancer” or someone with “bad technique”. Especially when the frame of reference that she’s being compared to is the DCC, and especially after watching that solo. FWIW, I don't think most people are saying that she’s an awful dancer. During the season of the show, Meredith took most of the criticism for making the team when she didn’t deserve too, not VK. think most people are simply saying that she doesn’t have good enough technique to be featured as much as she is, nor good enough showmanship to be put towards the front of the formation, in front of more seasoned vets. If you look at some of the strongest, pure dancers of the last few years - Whitney, Lacey, Caroline, Megan C, Holly, Olivia, etc- VK does not compare. You didn’t see those girls regularly fall out of simple turns like we see with VK for example. If you look at some of the best performers of the last several years - Mia, McKenzie, Jacie, Jenna, Bridget, Kashara... again, she doesn’t compare in terms of being a dynamic performer. That’s ok. She’s only a rookie. She has time to get there, but there’s no reason for her to jump to Gina’s spot in the formation or to get multiple featured dances over other girls. That’s the issue. 63 Link to comment
UnicornKicksBack January 2, 2020 Share January 2, 2020 Oh I def thjnk TK being so obnoxious and calling that girl who has less gums than VK a grandma def set the stage for instant VK dislike. However, she appears to have done NOTHING to turn that situation around. it does happen. Remember how hated Tasha was at first, how ugly a lot said Heather and Jinelle were, etc? 8 Link to comment
Tulip86 January 2, 2020 Share January 2, 2020 1 hour ago, go4luca said: I can't speak for anyone else, but at the moment, I can't even recall what the Chandler grandma incident is so that doesn't influence my opinion. My take on Victoria's dancing is based on my own years of training and knowing the mechanics of proper technique which @Loves2Dance has far better explained than I've had the patience to do. Same, my opinion of her dancing (which is that she's good, but not yet great. good showmanship, technique not her strong suit) is based on my 30+ years of dancing and teaching dance 16 Link to comment
BossKeyBlessed January 2, 2020 Share January 2, 2020 In my opinion...as some say they resent VK because so many try to “push” her down their throat...I’m feeling that same way about Bridget now. 🤮 I was just neutral about her before, she’s cutesy, a little awkward but a solid dancer...but it’s funny how my opinion is turning negative now because SO many are over the top pushing her and I’m definitely not seeing the talent or “look” others claim she has. Funny how that works. 9 Link to comment
Popular Post Glamourdoll January 2, 2020 Popular Post Share January 2, 2020 1 hour ago, MyFavShows said: Last thing I think of is a showgirl when I watch that dance. She’s a beautiful dancer. It blows my mind that people can’t see that and focus in her doing things like grabbing her shirt a few times just to find something negative. I believe the narratives on this site and bad first impressions of her mom over the Chandler grandma incident are really clouding people’s judgement when it comes to VKs dancing. They have been for a very long time. I can look at any cheerleader and decide for myself how I feel about them and how they perform. Also, I don't give a gnat's arse about TK and would never judge how someone dances by their Mom being well, TK. Blame the show itself for a decade and a half of teaching us how to criticize like K & J. 27 Link to comment
pinkandsparkly13 January 2, 2020 Share January 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, NinjaMom11 said: In my opinion...as some say they resent VK because so many try to “push” her down their throat...I’m feeling that same way about Bridget now. 🤮 I was just neutral about her before, she’s cutesy, a little awkward but a solid dancer...but it’s funny how my opinion is turning negative now because SO many are over the top pushing her and I’m definitely not seeing the talent or “look” others claim she has. Funny how that works. Well that's life and people's opinions. I didn't like Kashara when she was shoved down our throats IMO. 7 Link to comment
go4luca January 2, 2020 Share January 2, 2020 12 minutes ago, Tulip86 said: Same, my opinion of her dancing (which is that she's good, but not yet great. good showmanship, technique not her strong suit) is based on my 30+ years of dancing and teaching dance We match! High five! 🖐️ 10 Link to comment
TB12 January 2, 2020 Share January 2, 2020 16 hours ago, Tuxcat said: Completely agree and I like Victoria. She is not a showstopper performer in any capacity yet. She could be. She could develop. I think DCC is doing her a disservice at the moment. Take the spotlight off. Give her time and quiet guidance. If she's a true superstar she will naturally rise on her own. Right now, they are highlighting nothing but her obvious youth. I guess that depends on where the guidance comes from, right? If its TK approved then sure help a sister out, however, if its not its being mean and the girls risk being demoted... 2 Link to comment
go4luca January 2, 2020 Share January 2, 2020 9 minutes ago, TB12 said: I guess that depends on where the guidance comes from, right? If its TK approved then sure help a sister out, however, if its not its being mean and the girls risk being demoted... Vic has one source avail if she's open to it. I believe @ShellyB is a certified Cecchetti instructor. 1 1 Link to comment
fawn January 2, 2020 Share January 2, 2020 On 1/1/2020 at 1:40 PM, go4luca said: Brennan brings valuable maturity to the team. She may not be the top dancer, but she has improved and is a great representative of the organization. I can't help but cheer her on for persevering and in turn, inspiring others to not give up on a dream. But even more than that, for being so down to earth and relatable. I hope she stays another year. Very pretty and so much more relaxed looking... 7 Link to comment
MyFavShows January 2, 2020 Share January 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Jess14 said: FWIW, I don't think most people are saying that she’s an awful dancer. During the season of the show, Meredith took most of the criticism for making the team when she didn’t deserve too, not VK. think most people are simply saying that she doesn’t have good enough technique to be featured as much as she is, nor good enough showmanship to be put towards the front of the formation, in front of more seasoned vets. If you look at some of the strongest, pure dancers of the last few years - Whitney, Lacey, Caroline, Megan C, Holly, Olivia, etc- VK does not compare. You didn’t see those girls regularly fall out of simple turns like we see with VK for example. If you look at some of the best performers of the last several years - Mia, McKenzie, Jacie, Jenna, Bridget, Kashara... again, she doesn’t compare in terms of being a dynamic performer. That’s ok. She’s only a rookie. She has time to get there, but there’s no reason for her to jump to Gina’s spot in the formation or to get multiple featured dances over other girls. That’s the issue. She’s featured cause she does the work of recording on submitting good videos like this latest one. You think TPTB are supposed to sit there and say wow we got another great video from VK, but Bridgette and Erin have been here longer and they don’t fall out of turns (even though these videos don’t require turning) - so we’ll just have to not post it and wait for them to do something so things are fair? That’s not how an organization that looks to get stuff done and entertain fans operates. They are going to post what looks best and they think fans will like - period. 10 1 Link to comment
scorpio1031 January 2, 2020 Share January 2, 2020 Ok, her hair color looks good in this pic:) 13 Link to comment
Lunacat January 2, 2020 Share January 2, 2020 1 hour ago, MyFavShows said: So your judging her dancing on her non-dance actions that were portrayed on a highly edited reality show? Cause that’s what I mean. It’s personal preconceptions about her (mostly related to her mom) that are clouding the judgement on her dancing. Yes, I’m “judging” her (hate that word bc it has negative connotations) and making my own conclusions, based on what’s shown on the show and other DCC-controlled social media (DCC official IG/FB). As for the insinuation that VK is getting a raw deal with editing, well, the CMT team can only work with what you give them. 23 Link to comment
Popular Post Tuxcat January 2, 2020 Popular Post Share January 2, 2020 12 minutes ago, MyFavShows said: She’s featured cause she does the work of recording on submitting good videos like this latest one. You think TPTB are supposed to sit there and say wow we got another great video from VK, but Bridgette and Erin have been here longer and they don’t fall out of turns (even though these videos don’t require turning) - so we’ll just have to not post it and wait for them to do something so things are fair? That’s not how an organization that looks to get stuff done and entertain fans operates. They are going to post what looks best and they think fans will like - period. Listen the branding is important. They sell the "world class and internationally renowned" stuff. They make a TV show about it. They teach us - the audience - to be critical. So yes, when it comes to TPTB deciding on what to release to the masses - they should think about it. At the least, if they are not going to showcase their very best technical dancers - then showcase the "sisterhood." Do not give us a rookie in three videos. VK is a good dancer - people aren't arguing that she isn't good. They are saying, she's not a phenom to be glorified. Yes, TPTB should absolutely plan their product according to their own branding. To release product haphazardly is a poor reflection of DCC management. 38 Link to comment
fawn January 2, 2020 Share January 2, 2020 11 hours ago, dreamcatcher said: Maddie and Kashara were never going into that style so of course they won’t be that interested in ballet. But Lacey and Caroline have obviously had a lot of training in ballet... i don’t know, it just looks to me like competition studios aren’t that much about actually being a good dancer, but more about how you can win competitions with tricks etc. yep....read any pro dancer bio and most have not won any competition. (convention type of competitions....they are known money makers) For the clip of holiday show, I loved Jaylyn. She may not have had a lot of ballet...(its actually hard to tell sometimes from the few clips and DCC stuff) but she is talented and would get hired post DCC land. My eye did go to Amanda...shes a good performer, great body, but poor posture. Its quite noticeable. 4 Link to comment
fawn January 2, 2020 Share January 2, 2020 3 hours ago, MyFavShows said: Most US competition studios do ballet, it’s just not their primary focus as their dancers do not aspire to be ballerinas. My daughter is at a pretty serious comp studio and her and her peers in the senior advanced group do 5.5hrs/week of ballet - that’s the max out physically at her studio - anyone that wants “more ballet” is going extra to a ballet school or paying for privates that are really expensive (a few do this as they are really serious and their families spare no expense). The rest of her technique is leaps & turns 3hrs, combo/improv 3 hours, and Acro 1hr (she could do more of this and most of the younger kids do). She also could do tap for another 1.5 hours a week but choses not to. Then the competition groups all come in on weekends and learn choreo, run dances, do privates, etc. It is a pretty full week - dance alone is a good 16 hours or more a week spread over 4-5 days out of a 7 day week. And some of them do stuff like cheer for their school or other sports as well, in addition to going to school and social life stuff. Now if you compare that to a ballet focused school, ballet schools would spend that entire 16 hours doing only ballet. Some are like 24+ hours a week of ballet and then other styles on top of that, and a good portion of their dancers are homeschooled and hoping to be ballerina when they graduate. These types of schools do showcase performances like the nutcracker and don’t necessarily compete. All the negativity towards competition dancers cause they “don’t do enough ballet” and focus only on tricks is really unwarranted as they work very hard and many are beautiful dancers who are very entertaining to watch. I don't know of any professional ballet school that only gives their student's ballet classes ...(I work for a professional ballet school for a very good ballet company.)The dancers take obviously a lot of ballet...but also contemporary dance (and kill it), character and flamenco, variations, partnering, and rep class. At our school, the dancers take one semester of contempt and the second semester is jazz. No one is home schooled. But it is very rigorous and leaves little else for the students. 2 7 Link to comment
PattiD4DCC January 2, 2020 Share January 2, 2020 Jalyn's swingy star sweater is absolutely adorbs. As is she. 19 Link to comment
Popular Post UnicornKicksBack January 2, 2020 Popular Post Share January 2, 2020 1 hour ago, NinjaMom11 said: In my opinion...as some say they resent VK because so many try to “push” her down their throat...I’m feeling that same way about Bridget now. 🤮 I was just neutral about her before, she’s cutesy, a little awkward but a solid dancer...but it’s funny how my opinion is turning negative now because SO many are over the top pushing her and I’m definitely not seeing the talent or “look” others claim she has. Funny how that works. Who within the DCC org is pushing Bridget? Most of us love her style here, but I really haven’t seen any evidence of anyone outside this board pushing her. She’s been in like one DCC in motion? 36 Link to comment
Popular Post UnicornKicksBack January 2, 2020 Popular Post Share January 2, 2020 Also let’s get real - anybody going the pro ballet track is NOT going to go DCC unless they fail at ballet or get tired of it. Nobody trains hard core ballet school with their end goal of being a pro cheerleader. 31 Link to comment
Kimrs January 2, 2020 Share January 2, 2020 I would like to start by saying I don’t have a horse in this race. As a reminder: I became a DCC fan as a kid, am a Steeler fan from birth and was a soccer player who took one year of ballet because my mom made me. I have watched and own all of the available seasons until this year. (Please release 1 and 2 CMT!). We don’t get CMT where I live and I didn’t enjoy season 13 at all, so I wound up not buying season 14. Maybe someday if it goes on sale... 😉 This forum is my only link to the DCC world and I love checking in daily to read about the latest news. I truly appreciate all of the pics and videos that are posted here. But I have to be honest that so much focus on Victoria can be overwhelming. Sometimes I feel like I am reading a tennis match with some of comments that get lobbed in here. 🎾🎾 Having said that, without further ado, let me enter the fray with my two cents solely based on what I have seen on MTT and what I have seen/read here😊 (Remember totally not in the know about anything DCC) Do I think she gets favored due to her connections? Probably, I would be more surprised if she didn’t. Do I think she would have made the team without them? Yes I do. Do I think she is a great DCC? Not yet, she isn’t the best dancer I’ve seen, but she does give off a sense of excitement/joy when she dances. And just to keep it current... My faves: Maddie, Heather, Gina, Erin, Brianna, Hannah, Bridget, Jaylyn, Amanda Ones I really rooted for in TC: Christina, Brennan Ones I feel like I have no idea who they are: Molly, Tess, Alexis, Amber, tall Taylor, Rachel with short hair (why are they all brunettes?) thanks for reading and Happy New Year! 15 Link to comment
Popular Post TxBex January 2, 2020 Popular Post Share January 2, 2020 27 minutes ago, MyFavShows said: She’s featured cause she does the work of recording on submitting good videos like this latest one. You think TPTB are supposed to sit there and say wow we got another great video from VK, but Bridgette and Erin have been here longer and they don’t fall out of turns (even though these videos don’t require turning) - so we’ll just have to not post it and wait for them to do something so things are fair? That’s not how an organization that looks to get stuff done and entertain fans operates. They are going to post what looks best and they think fans will like - period. I hardly think the DCC are posting VK vids all the time because she's the only one putting in the work. That's pretty insulting to the 36 other women on the team. It's more likely that she's the one given the most opportunities. And yes, it is unfair. When you have a box of 64 crayons, but you only pull out the same 5 crayons for your child to color with; of course your child will know those 5 colors and they become her favorites. That doesn't mean the other colors are any less brilliant. Fans are like these children with only five crayons to color with. 1 37 Link to comment
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