Mike and Natalie: Low Interest Couple, High Interest Rates

[Mrs. Hanson]

27 minutes ago, Colfrmb said:

@Mrs. Hanson, I nearly choked on my English muffin, you made me laugh so hard.  
And they did get a puppy, didn’t they?  Because having a young dog is the perfect accessory to having a new baby - not!  

You are welcome.....I think!  Yes I believe they did get a puppy, and as someone who volunteers in shelters and fosters, let me lay it out for everyone.  "Oh we got a puppy!!  WE LOVE THE PUPPY!"  "We are going to have a baby!!  How wonderful!"  "Wow this baby is a lot of work, we can't care for the dog."  "Hello?  Local Animal Shelter?  We need to surrender our dog.  What do you mean there is a fee???"

The part about complaining about the fee REALLY got me as I was eyeing their acrylic nails and pack of smokes.

Back to work now.  Thank you for attending my Ted Talk.

[Teri313]

I was just watching the Bares All teaser they put on TLC trying to lure people over to Discovery + (no thanks), and they show a scene of Mike driving through town and Natalie walking in the road refusing to get back in the truck because Mike is trying to FORCE her to drink alcohol and he's like, what are you talking about???. And she's stomping her feet like a toddler and making a fool of herself as usual and all I can think is, MIKE, END THIS NONSENSE, SEND HER HOME, AND MARRY YOUR HAIRDRESSER. Seriously, you will be a happier man in the end.

Edited February 4, 2021 by Teri313
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[Colfrmb]

@Teri313, well, and if a cop drove by, they would have to stop, get out and have a chat with her to see if she was in danger.  She needs a reality check.  

[Teri313]

35 minutes ago, Colfrmb said:

@Teri313, well, and if a cop drove by, they would have to stop, get out and have a chat with her to see if she was in danger.  She needs a reality check.  

Good point! They take accusations like that very seriously. And meanwhile she's just a brat trying to get attention, but Mike will pay the price.

[sainte-chapelle]

Yea her saying he is “forcing her to drink alcohol “ sounds terrible and could land Mike in jail. 

[lilysmom]

On 12/31/2020 at 12:15 PM, magemaud said:

Watching the “Pillow Talk” marathon. I forgot Mike was married before. His explanation of how they met was his best friend married a Ukrainian woman who knew Natalie (he doesn’t say if they live locally, if so maybe they will appear this season) and the woman asked Natalie to be their baby’s godmother although she couldn’t be there in person. After the Christening, where Mike was The Godfather,* he went to the Ukraine to meet her.  

In the first scene where we see Natalie talking on the phone with Mike she says something like, “I’ve figured out what to tell my mother so she won’t be sad. I’m going to tell her she will have grandchildren” and Mike is noncommittal about the prospect 

*spellcheck capitalized that and I’m leaving it.  

I have wondered this for a while, if Mike is so anti religion and believes in alien beings or whatever, why would he agree to be a baby's GODFATHER?? Just asking.

Edited February 6, 2021 by lilysmom

[Gobi]

32 minutes ago, lilysmom said:

I have wondered this for a while, if Mike is so anti religion and believes in alien beings or whatever, why would he agree to be a baby's GODFATHER?? Just asking.

They made him an offer he couldn’t refuse.

[Colfrmb]

Maybe Big Mike thinks that if Natalie gets her baby she will calm down, loosen up and magically become nicer... yeah, right, I didn’t think so either.

[lilysmom]

10 hours ago, Gobi said:

They made him an offer he couldn’t refuse.

Thanks, after trying for days to get a vaccine appt., I needed a good laugh!!

[Mrs. Hanson]

On 2/6/2021 at 10:03 AM, Colfrmb said:

Maybe Big Mike thinks that if Natalie gets her baby she will calm down, loosen up and magically become nicer... yeah, right, I didn’t think so either.

Holy moly she will become even MORE wound.  "Micshal....ze babee will not stop cryeeeing......"

 

[AZChristian]

2 hours ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

Holy moly she will become even MORE wound.  "Micshal....ze babee will not stop cryeeeing......"

. . . and it is becawz you vill not go to shurch weeth us und you had hamboogah for lunsh today at verk.

[Mrs. Hanson]

15 hours ago, AZChristian said:

. . . and it is becawz you vill not go to shurch weeth us und you had hamboogah for lunsh today at verk.

"And had several beerz before bedtime........"

[CrazyInAlabama]

I feel sorry for the counselor that will deal with this pair.     Mike looked either massively sleep deprived, or totally out of it, and that was while he was driving.  Natalie just won't stop whining about how she wants her life to be, and that's not going to happen.  

[mamadrama]

Meanwhile, over on Reddit...

[mamadrama]

Also...

[Colfrmb]

@mamadrama, wowsers!  This changes everything!  Except the fact that she takes some pretty low verbal jabs at him and how could a decent person do that, even if they break for a scene change and apologize profusely.  She’s just so good at nagging and being mean. I couldn’t get that angry and say such nasty things to someone and not mean it.  But I’m not an actress on TV.

And why do all these Eastern European women think they are so special that they have to remind the American guy how lucky they are to have them?  Do they always go with jerky guys who need to be reminded or is it just their overblown egos?   Does anybody ever say thank you any more?

[Mrs. Hanson]

23 minutes ago, Colfrmb said:

And why do all these Eastern European women think they are so special that they have to remind the American guy how lucky they are to have them?  

I have said it before but they must have magical powers during no no time.  Can't explain it otherwise!

[Colfrmb]

Sorry, wrong thread

Edited February 22, 2021 by Colfrmb

[mamadrama]

4 hours ago, Colfrmb said:

@mamadrama, wowsers!  This changes everything!  Except the fact that she takes some pretty low verbal jabs at him and how could a decent person do that, even if they break for a scene change and apologize profusely.  She’s just so good at nagging and being mean. I couldn’t get that angry and say such nasty things to someone and not mean it.  But I’m not an actress on TV.

And why do all these Eastern European women think they are so special that they have to remind the American guy how lucky they are to have them?  Do they always go with jerky guys who need to be reminded or is it just their overblown egos?   Does anybody ever say thank you any more?

That's what I used to say about reality TV-even if what they're saying or doing is made up, the fact that they're willing to go along with it still says a lot about them...

One of the rumors I've heard from a former cast member is that what were seeing of them LOOKS like it was filmed over several weeks, but was really filmed in one week. That they've basically taken 3 or 4 bad days and fights at the beginning of the 90 days and stretched the scenes out making it look like it went on the whole time. Who knows if that's true, but it was interesting. 

[Lambie]

I hate these people. Both the real ones and the characters they play on 90DF. 

[Colfrmb]

spoiler Alert:   Again just based on hearsay.  Turn back now.

I bet $100 that if Yara did get pregnant “accidentally” while using no birth control, TWICE, that after the baby is born, she uses better birth control.  I don’t see her becoming a baby making machine just because she “can’t or won’t” use birth control.

[endure]

On 2/22/2021 at 7:44 AM, Colfrmb said:

@mamadrama, wowsers!  This changes everything!  Except the fact that she takes some pretty low verbal jabs at him and how could a decent person do that, even if they break for a scene change and apologize profusely.  She’s just so good at nagging and being mean. I couldn’t get that angry and say such nasty things to someone and not mean it.  But I’m not an actress on TV.

And why do all these Eastern European women think they are so special that they have to remind the American guy how lucky they are to have them?  Do they always go with jerky guys who need to be reminded or is it just their overblown egos?   Does anybody ever say thank you any more?

And you think he is acting a like perfectly charming loving guy any woman would want to marry?  He is acting like a detached could care less hateful manipulating ass imho, but seriously it is all such faked drama - we already know their final outcome.....and for now, they're just playing us. I can barely tolerate this couples dynamic yet I bet were they on the original Pillow Talk they would be completely different personalities.

Hardly anyone says thank you anymore on reality TV and in reality, there is a real lack of respect in society these days unfortunately - I think it's deplorable.  I think respect starts at home at a very early age but it seems to be forgotten often. 

Edited March 7, 2021 by endure

[Colfrmb]

@endure, I agree with everything you said.  😎😁

[AZChristian]

1 hour ago, endure said:

Hardly anyone says thank you anymore on reality TV and in reality, there is a real lack of respect in society these days unfortunately - I think it's deplorable.  I think respect starts at home at a very early age but it seems to be forgotten often. 

Since we retired and are together 100% of the time, we made a conscious decision to be even more polite to each other.  If one of us says "thank you" (which we each say often every day), the other responds with "you're welcome."  Not "uh-huh" or "no problem."  It makes sense to be the most polite with the people you see the most.

[Baltimore Betty]

58 minutes ago, AZChristian said:

Since we retired and are together 100% of the time, we made a conscious decision to be even more polite to each other.  If one of us says "thank you" (which we each say often every day), the other responds with "you're welcome."  Not "uh-huh" or "no problem."  It makes sense to be the most polite with the people you see the most.

I am retired due to Covid,(my previous employer will not be reopening the office, ever),  my husband is working from home...I think it is polite to push down my murderous thoughts that rise to the surface from time to time. 

[AZChristian]

19 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I am retired due to Covid,(my previous employer will not be reopening the office, ever),  my husband is working from home...I think it is polite to push down my murderous thoughts that rise to the surface from time to time. 

Yeah . . . that happens to us, too.  We're a quarantined extrovert married to an quarantined introvert.  It does create some interesting dynamics.

[Colfrmb]

I’m impressed that Mike let Natalie drive the pick up to the bridal shop. I remember her driving back in Ukraine and she was a crazy bad driver.

 

[Teri313]

I'm at 1:26 and the only thing I've been able to understand so far is to use good salt (I think that's what she said anyway). This is so cringy. She needs to pull her hair back, put a t-shirt on, and speak UP. And BTW, where the hell is she? Who's kitchen is this?

 

[Baltimore Betty]

20 minutes ago, Teri313 said:

I'm at 1:26 and the only thing I've been able to understand so far is to use good salt (I think that's what she said anyway). This is so cringy. She needs to pull her hair back, put a t-shirt on, and speak UP. And BTW, where the hell is she? Who's kitchen is this?

 

Has Natalie ever had a pizza before? No sauce?  Corn?  Big bell sleeves was a brave choice.

The constant posing with ingredients was odd, her whispering cooking directions was odd and the 70's porn editing was distracting.

Do we think Mike ate any of that pizza?

[AZChristian]

16 hours ago, Teri313 said:

And BTW, where the hell is she? Who's kitchen is this?

Not the kitchen at their modular home.  Maybe it's Uncle-Cousin Beau's house?

16 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Do we think Mike ate any of that pizza?

Probably not unless it also had sausage and/or ground beef.  And extra cheese.

ETA:  With a 6-pack of beer on the side.

Edited March 14, 2021 by AZChristian

[watchingtvaddict]

14 hours ago, Teri313 said:

I'm at 1:26 and the only thing I've been able to understand so far is to use good salt (I think that's what she said anyway). This is so cringy. She needs to pull her hair back, put a t-shirt on, and speak UP. And BTW, where the hell is she? Who's kitchen is this?

 

I believe the kitchen belongs to Mike’s sister. They are the next door neighbors. 

[Frozendiva]

She is a walking fire hazard. No one wants to find hair in food and with those ballooning sleeves, you make one wrong move on the stove or oven and you will catch fire.

[CSunshine76]

So confused about these two. Tonight’s episode had Natalie bawling her eyes out and packing to go back home. Yet they supposedly are married?

Is he going to follow her to the airport and apologize and she comes back? Hell no. You don’t tell me the night before the wedding you can’t marry me and get any kind of reprieve the next day or week (or ever).

[mamadrama]

3 hours ago, CSunshine76 said:

So confused about these two. Tonight’s episode had Natalie bawling her eyes out and packing to go back home. Yet they supposedly are married?

Is he going to follow her to the airport and apologize and she comes back? Hell no. You don’t tell me the night before the wedding you can’t marry me and get any kind of reprieve the next day or week (or ever).

My theory:

65% of what we've seen has been mildly scripted bullshit, 10% recreations of previous fights, and 15% legit anger on his part. (The rest is anyone's guess.) The fight, or the aftermath, was the first REAL scene we've seen from them this season. 

He'll go after her and apologize. I wish she'd just keep on going. 

[Colfrmb]

So maybe everybody heads to the airport and as he’s begging her for a hug, here comes Natalie‘s mama, suitcases in hand, and Mike&Natalie see it as a sign that they really should get married after all and so they do and everybody lives happily ever after. And Mama Natalie gets to be here for the birth of her grandbaby.

[Mrs. Hanson]

3 hours ago, Colfrmb said:

So maybe everybody heads to the airport and as he’s begging her for a hug, here comes Natalie‘s mama, suitcases in hand, and Mike&Natalie see it as a sign that they really should get married after all and so they do and everybody lives happily ever after. And Mama Natalie gets to be here for the birth of her grandbaby.

You could be onto something.  If you don't want to marry her, just let her go and don't look back.  I have a hunch you are on to something, and even if it is true, why put your girl through so much anxiety and pain?

[Nancybeth]

On 3/13/2021 at 4:52 PM, Teri313 said:

I'm at 1:26 and the only thing I've been able to understand so far is to use good salt (I think that's what she said anyway). This is so cringy. She needs to pull her hair back, put a t-shirt on, and speak UP. And BTW, where the hell is she? Who's kitchen is this?

 

At 9:10, is she putting...cashews on her pizza? Just after the pineapple? She says, "I put artichokes on my pizza, now I put a little...koo-shoes" and they DO look like cashews in the bowl but WTF??

Is Natalie trying to be the Ukranian Sandra Lee??

Edited March 15, 2021 by Nancybeth

[CSunshine76]

52 minutes ago, Nancybeth said:

At 9:10, is she putting...cashews on her pizza? Just after the pineapple? She says, "I put artichokes on my pizza, now I put a little...koo-shoes" and they DO look like cashews in the bowl but WTF??

Is Natalie trying to be the Ukranian Sandra Lee??

Holy crap, she did. Does she know you don’t put ALL possible toppings on one pizza?  I mean corn, pineapple, olives, cashews and artichokes...what a combo! 🤮

[renatae]

On 1/19/2021 at 1:55 AM, Christina said:

Natalie's ex-husband

Interesting photo. This one looks like her, but the one they showed on the latest episode looks like another person. The eyes aren't nearly as prominent in the photo shown on the show. 🤷‍♀️

 

 

[Grifter Lives]

2 hours ago, renatae said:

 

I assumed that this is her 2nd husband whom TLC pretends doesn't exist.  On her first season, Natalie took Mike to meet on on her friends in Kiev.  The friend declared Mike the opposite of her ex-husband, who was a successful, wealthy Ukrainian businessman, and wonders how cosmopolitan Natalie could be happy with Mike.  When I re-watch the last episode, I will look if the wedding dress is the same.  I thought the one on the show may have been long-sleeved.

[Drogo]

On 3/13/2021 at 7:52 PM, Teri313 said:

I'm at 1:26 and the only thing I've been able to understand so far is to use good salt (I think that's what she said anyway). This is so cringy. She needs to pull her hair back, put a t-shirt on, and speak UP. And BTW, where the hell is she? Who's kitchen is this?

 

Based on the amount of whispering, I'd say the kitchen belongs to an unsuspecting family still asleep upstairs. 

[Grifter Lives]

3 hours ago, Grifter Lives said:

I assumed that this is her 2nd husband whom TLC pretends doesn't exist.  On her first season, Natalie took Mike to meet on on her friends in Kiev.  The friend declared Mike the opposite of her ex-husband, who was a successful, wealthy Ukrainian businessman, and wonders how cosmopolitan Natalie could be happy with Mike.  When I re-watch the last episode, I will look if the wedding dress is the same.  I thought the one on the show may have been long-sleeved.

The picture in the earlier post is Natalie's wedding to Husband No. 1 Zenon Pierides, a Cypriot.  She was with him for less than two years and moved back from Cyprus to Ukraine after he filed for bankruptcy.  The wedding photos in S8E14 are from her 2nd husband, a Ukrainian.  She said that his work required him to travel a lot and he had been in the army.  She was with him for 8 years.  Both she and Mike had been divorced from others for 2 years when they met.  So, although Natalie said her first wedding was big and expensive, TLC has only shown are blurred photos of her 2nd husband.  Let's see if Mike wears a powder-blue tie (or suit, like Tarek) for Natalie's third wedding.

 

[itsadryheat]

1 hour ago, Grifter Lives said:

The wedding photos in S8E14 are from her 2nd husband, a Ukrainian. 

She looks different in every photo.

This one is much better than the bunny boiler look she has now.

[Grifter Lives]

Here's a photo of Mike with his ex.

 

 

[mamadrama]

On 3/15/2021 at 6:22 PM, Nancybeth said:

At 9:10, is she putting...cashews on her pizza? Just after the pineapple? She says, "I put artichokes on my pizza, now I put a little...koo-shoes" and they DO look like cashews in the bowl but WTF??

Is Natalie trying to be the Ukranian Sandra Lee??

The Kwanzaa cake will never not be funny.

 

 

 

[mamadrama]

According to someone on Reddit who met Uncle Beau yesterday, Mike and Natalie are  married and separated. She's living in Seattle. No baby. 

[steff13]

That pizza is horrifying.  I like that her "secret" ingredient in her alfredo sauce is parmesan cheese.  It's not THAT much of a secret.  

[itsadryheat]

I wish I could blame 2020 for the portrayal of these two this season. (Actually, all of these couples, and one set of parents, are in need of varying degrees of psychiatry, meds, or at least a good friend who can say don't go on this show, the moneys not worth it, it won't be a good look and you will never get your reputation back.)

I'd rather see the lunatics Angela, Lisa and Big Ed than ever see this split personality psycho with the grating voice and her passive aggressive lump of a fantasy boyfriend. These two have been seriously disturbing to watch. The editing sucked, they sucked, their "story" sucked. The jerk coldly, finally gives her the gd ring again, she chastises him on how he did it, they fake happily go to the bedroom and next scene we get, the  psycho is back, in hysterics. No explanation from TLC. Only the torture of listening to her. And her instagram cooking show in the non trailer kitchen.

I don't know what's up with these two but honestly hope this is the last we see them on the small screen, and they are stuck together for eternity with the gossip rags leaking their miserable life. 

Edited March 23, 2021 by itsadryheat

[Polliwollidoodle]

On 3/21/2021 at 1:41 AM, mamadrama said:

According to someone on Reddit who met Uncle Beau yesterday, Mike and Natalie are  married and separated. She's living in Seattle. No baby. 

Yes I saw the same thing on another forum. I kept telling my sister that word was that Natalie was in the US currently and that actually she and Mike married. That seems to be true.... after the episode 2 nights ago, my sister was questioning me about how that could be. I did read that someone posted their marriage license ( I think it was from Feb 2020 but I don't recall for sure) and I assumed they were really still married and living together. I wonder if the split is true, and if it is, how recent.

She sure does ook SOOOOOOOOO different in all the photos. I used to think she was quite attractive and interesting looking but I think her tweaks right before she came here messed her up. (Looked to me like a ton of lip fillers and breast implants. The lip fillers really distorted her and did not flatter. IMO)

[CrazyInAlabama]

There is an article quoting Uncle Beau, confirming the rumors about the marriage, and the split.   However, isn't it about signup time for the next season?    Wouldn't be the first time a couple had public issues, and then were booked on HEA or one of the other 90 Day series, because they're in the news again.    

Edited March 24, 2021 by CrazyInAlabama