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Modifying your picture to almost anorexia is perfectly legit  .... but holding in your stomach is a mortal sin 🙄

19 hours ago, WaterSpirit said:

WTF???

BTW not holding your belly in is a sure way to have  bulging lower abs - especially if you sit most of your work day.  Most of us are not aware of poor posture as it become a daily habit at the desk

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If Julia did say "Fuck this," then I'd like to compliment her on summing up my feelings about this entire season so succinctly.

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Well, good thing Lisa is an excellent dancer then. Very powerful and smart to boot. Super sucks Julia didn’t make it bc of behind the scenes drama, but at least Lisa is talented. Because there are some hot messes on the dance floor AND locker room this season. 

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On 9/21/2019 at 5:49 PM, cgloss said:

I never thought Dayton truly cared much about DCC, so Kelli’s question didn’t bother me.  Of the three recent legacies who made the team (Vic, Cassie and Meredith), it seemed like all three were following their moms’ dreams. I don’t doubt that they wanted it, but it was clear that they were auditioning under heavy expectations from their mothers. To Shelly’s credit, she didn’t seem to burden Dayton with the same degree of expectations.  

I would like to see Madeline come back and make the team. Is it me or was Judy surprised that she was cut then? She kept throwing Kelli strange looks. 

I did not realize that Meredith was a legacy.  Do y'all think that is the reason for the why she was not heavily criticized for her dancing techniques?

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On 9/22/2019 at 12:16 AM, Agent Gully said:

I think the issue with Lisa is that because she has a bit stockier build that it often looks like she has no neck. That said, she certainly is a powerful dancer.

I'm a fan of Christina, I can relate to her hearing difficulties and have always found her to be mature and down to earth. She has had some good dancing moments (I believe they showed a wonderful clip of her when Charm was guest choreographer.) I'm sure she shows energy during game day.  It is harder for those gals who have to have a full time job to support themselves. I doubt any of them have time for a spa day on a regular basis!

Kelli has really annoyed me so far this season. She would make a bad poker player that is for sure. She practically drips venom with Madeline S. and then salivates with joy over Kat, Meredith and precious VK. Grrr! Judy is also upsetting me - for God's sake woman, SAY something!

Sorry for the rant, I am in dire need of coffee even at this hour of the night!

Not understanding Judy you are the choreographer why does Kelli speak more than you do, stand up for the girls if you believe in them or don’t think they should be cut! 

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Victoria Kiki

1 hour ago, DancingDina13 said:

That is not true at all! 

This is a relief-While I love a little tea, it didn’t sound right either.  If you get cut, it has to be because you did something stupid/against DCC rules. Despite who we all like and dislike, everyone who got cut post-TC specifically did so by violating DCC rules, if I recall correctly. 

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9 hours ago, Pau84 said:

Julia vs Lisa

There are so many different accounts on who was the perpetrator and who was the victim, and who is the toxic one on these boards, including people knowing them personally, that I find it very difficult to understand who is with the Force and who is with the Dark side of the Force.

As someone without any knowledge but with a strong sense on who is the glammiest (is that a word?), I would choose Lisa Mills over Julia Fife.

I stand ready to be shredded to pieces by the other side in this Great War.

What we’ve seen of Lisa’s personality she seems nice.  They haven’t shown much of Julia’s personality at all.  Both seem to be good dancers and cute, although Julia has a significantly better figure. 

Just because they don’t get along or have a little bit of history doesn’t seem like a reason to cut one or the other unless the problem is something MAJOR - like illegal activity or drama so bad it’s affecting their performance.   

If every dance and cheer team had a policy of all of you must get along 24-7 and if you don’t we will pick a side and cut one of you, there would be a lot of tiny, tiny dance squads. 

I actually feel kind of bad that all these Mavs girls are having to deal w/ their past dramas haunting them as they try to move to a new team - their old squad got disbanded and their choices are limited now if they want to keep dancing their style without moving.   The environment on the Mavs was probably totally different and may have led them to do things they wouldn’t have done in a different situation.  It would be nice if they could just have a clean slate w/ the new team, but it seems like a lot of people don’t want them to be able to.

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Some of my current random thoughts:  One item that is not discussed here much is when we are posting about what is shown on the CMT program, to remember that Kelli is an executive producer of the CMT program.  She was instumental in getting the program started, and as part of the branding department, she works with Charlotte Jones Anderson.  Charlotte is Vice President of Branding for the organization, etc., so they absolutely must have editing rights.  I can't imagine that Charlotte would allow it any other way.  This is comparable to film directors who often have "director's cut" rights.

So when we get disgusted with something, like when Kelli seems mean, it has to be their decision to show that scene to keep the drama going.  This past episode (or the one before) showed us a snippet that showed Meredith crying (again) with Kelli's voiceover saying "some of us will go home tonight." (my paraphrasing.)  I looked at that and thought they just wanted us to think that Meredith was working sooooo hard to make the team and that it had not already been decided that she would make the team.  Meredith drama 101.  Also, does anyone remember Kelli saying in the scene where it shows Meredith in her office that they like Meredith, but time is almost up??  Meredith drama 102.

Another item:  In regard to Kelli and Judy not attending every single nightly practice - did anyone else notice the scene when Kelli came in and told the TCC that Evan Miller was going to give a class that night?  She said something like, "Hi, everybody, it's good to see you all."  Now if she was there every single night, then why would she address the TCC as if she had not seen them in awhile??  Just wondering.

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1 hour ago, parrotfeathers said:

If I were a TCC I wouldn't want Kelli there every night.   I would have a better ability to learn without thinking she were watching every move.

Shelly told us K and J are only there on film nights, but I am not clear on how many nights a week are film nights. It would seem like they would need to be there pretty often in order to make decisions, unless they are relying on Assistant choreographers and group leaders reports more thAn we realize.

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12 hours ago, MyFavShows said:

I thought Ashley was the mean girl on the Mavs - now Lisa was a mean girl too and got Julia cut by tattling on her?  What did Julia do that got her instantly cut 6 weeks into training camp?

And lol about 19 year old VK having something to do w/ long-standing Mavs drama that provably started back when she was still in high school - not buying it.   Unless it was something really serious, like something illegal, I can’t see why she’d care to get involved.

Agree. I think VK had absolutely nothing to do with why Julia got cut. I do think there is bad blood between Lisa and Julia but VK tattling about something to Kelli isn't the reason she's not there anymore. Something else went down.

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SmpIsimon

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I'm just saying Lisa was smart enough to suck up to the right person, which saved her skin when the conflict between Lisa and Julia came to light.  I mean, Julia is a solid dancer, has an accident in which she suffers a concussion and yet is still cut.

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I finally got a good look at the back of Kat's picture (around the 2 min mark).  the top one had "CMT" on it (because she's being featured) and the bottom one is one of Jennifer Colvin's stickers (but she already had one on the front, so I don't know why there's one on the back as well.)

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10 minutes ago, Tootie said:

I finally got a good look at the back of Kat's picture (around the 2 min mark).  the top one had "CMT" on it (because she's being featured) and the bottom one is one of Jennifer Colvin's stickers (but she already had one on the front, so I don't know why there's one on the back as well.)

I think the CMT stickers mean that they actually give the production team an opinion, like behind the scenes who is a good person/teammate/respectful/good to work with when Kelli is not around sort of thing.

SmpIsimon

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DMD Ashley got cut after a couple of other DMD girls ratted her out about going to California with DMD’s Maggie’s boyfriend, who allegedly told her if she’d go with him that he’d pay $75K to get her on the DCC.  Maggie was one of the ones who ratted Ashley out.  The guy had lied to Maggie, saying he was going out of town for work but somehow Maggie tracked him down through his office (she works for him) and learned the truth. Also, Ashley posted a photo from the Beverly Hills Hotel (now taken down).  From what I've heard, Maggie is back with this guy now.

I would suspect, although I don't know for sure, that Lisa would have ratted her out as well in hopes of improving her odds of making the DCC.  Lisa went to several of Jennifer's prep classes and the two became close.  It wouldn't surprise me if Lisa told Jenn about Ashley's California escapade in hopes that that information would make its way back to Kelli.

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26 minutes ago, SmpIsimon said:

DMD Ashley got cut after a couple of other DMD girls ratted her out about going to California with DMD’s Maggie’s boyfriend, who allegedly told her if she’d go with him that he’d pay $75K to get her on the DCC.  Maggie was one of the ones who ratted Ashley out.  The guy had lied to Maggie, saying he was going out of town for work but somehow Maggie tracked him down through his office (she works for him) and learned the truth. Also, Ashley posted a photo from the Beverly Hills Hotel (now taken down).  From what I've heard, Maggie is back with this guy now.

I would suspect, although I don't know for sure, that Lisa would have ratted her out as well in hopes of improving her odds of making the DCC.  Lisa went to several of Jennifer's prep classes and the two became close.  It wouldn't surprise me if Lisa told Jenn about Ashley's California escapade in hopes that that information would make its way back to Kelli.

So allegedly one weekend in CA w/ Ashley is worth $75K?  And a spot on the DCC can be purchased for $75K?

Sounds pretty far fetched.   And Ashley was the second highest scoring rookie at finals and allegedly a good dancer, she can’t make the squad on her own merits she has to resort to essentially prostitution to get a spot on the team?

And sounds like this guy is a grade A jerk making these kinds of deals w/ these girls. 

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Photos from last game

https://www.dallascowboys.com/photos/dcc-week-3-game-day-gallery-miavsdal-2019?

Cianna is show group but Jaylyn has a better spot than her in TS..?

Rookie Taylor has to be on weight watch

To the people who though that Gina didn't edit her photos to look skinnier and it was the TPTB doing the opposite to make her look less anorexic, take a look at the pic of her in here.. 

Victoria is still slim but she is definitely not too thin..

Amber is my girl crush.

Can't wait for the 2nd yr vets to take over. It's going to be stacked!! #MaddiePleaseRetire

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32 minutes ago, MyFavShows said:

So allegedly one weekend in CA w/ Ashley is worth $75K?  And a spot on the DCC can be purchased for $75K?

Sounds pretty far fetched.   And Ashley was the second highest scoring rookie at finals and allegedly a good dancer, she can’t make the squad on her own merits she has to resort to essentially prostitution to get a spot on the team?

And sounds like this guy is a grade A jerk making these kinds of deals w/ these girls. 

Who knows but she didn't last very long in TC and was one of the first cuts even though she scored high. So. It's a crazy world out there. Lol 

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1 hour ago, SmpIsimon said:

DMD Ashley got cut after a couple of other DMD girls ratted her out about going to California with DMD’s Maggie’s boyfriend, who allegedly told her if she’d go with him that he’d pay $75K to get her on the DCC.  Maggie was one of the ones who ratted Ashley out.  The guy had lied to Maggie, saying he was going out of town for work but somehow Maggie tracked him down through his office (she works for him) and learned the truth. Also, Ashley posted a photo from the Beverly Hills Hotel (now taken down).  From what I've heard, Maggie is back with this guy now.

I would suspect, although I don't know for sure, that Lisa would have ratted her out as well in hopes of improving her odds of making the DCC.  Lisa went to several of Jennifer's prep classes and the two became close.  It wouldn't surprise me if Lisa told Jenn about Ashley's California escapade in hopes that that information would make its way back to Kelli.

I need a visual. Which one was DMD Ashley?

12 minutes ago, rl27rl said:

This was yesterday, September 22nd after the Cowboys win.  She clearly has gotten thick in the middle.

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The pic on the right isn't doing her any good at all.

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SmpIsimon

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19 minutes ago, 5678Pixie said:

Victoria in pix #12 looks like the photographer tried to edit her stomach but really botched it.  

I think she just has a lot of excess skin from her  yo-yo dieting and it just moves around in weird ways when she dances. At least that’s what some of the girls on the squad think it is. 

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33 minutes ago, JayDKay said:

Photos from last game

https://www.dallascowboys.com/photos/dcc-week-3-game-day-gallery-miavsdal-2019?

Cianna is show group but Jaylyn has a better spot than her in TS..?

Rookie Taylor has to be on weight watch

To the people who though that Gina didn't edit her photos to look skinnier and it was the TPTB doing the opposite to make her look less anorexic, take a look at the pic of her in here.. 

Victoria is still slim but she is definitely not too thin..

Amber is my girl crush.

Can't wait for the 2nd yr vets to take over. It's going to be stacked!! #MaddiePleaseRetire

A lot of them look thick in pick #9.  Rookie Taylor, Kirsten and even Bridgette looks thicker  in the middle.  That pic of Gena looks kinda scary - she’s just not very photogenic.   Beauty pageant Rachel looks so pretty in the ones of her.  That one of VK is pretty too. 

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hathorlive

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15 hours ago, Mar35 said:

I do not understand how Kelli constantly promotes the schools and career goals the women have and then chastises and accuses Madeline of using DCC as a stepping stone when she said she wanted to perform for the rest of her life and eventually finish school. These women are in their 20s and the longer tenures are 5 years on the team. Does she expect them just to completely disappear after their time on DCC? If I was Kelli, I would boast about all the amazing opportunities DCC has afforded them in the dance world and celebrate the girls who have gone to have prolific dance careers in LA and NY or wherever. (I wonder if DCC actually hurts the women’s future in dance) I get she feels burned by Kalyssa and Milan, but if you want lower turnover, pay and treat them better.

side note: Tangerine salon is doing some of the girls real dirty. Caroline is easy point material but the blonde highlights on top of the super dark layers are so unflattering and is not how you achieve dimensional color. It looks like she has blonde curtains.

Be good enough to be an asset to DCC but not good enough to leave once we treat you like shit.  Strong, confident women don't make good Stockholm syndrome victims.  I thought it was funny that she's grilling Madeline about is she there for the right reasons when VK is there because there's nothing else for her to do all day.   Pick your poison, Kelli.  You reap what you sew.   She did the same thing last season to Brennan with the entire "are you here to make the team or for selfish reasons?" bulls sh!t.   Why do you care, as long as they can kick, stop eating, and bow down to your lame ass?

I'm not sure what's going on with the hair, but there are too many peroxide blondes and flat sticky hair messes on that field. 

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hathorlive

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1 hour ago, JayDKay said:

To the people who though that Gina didn't edit her photos to look skinnier and it was the TPTB doing the opposite to make her look less anorexic, take a look at the pic of her in here.. 

Victoria is still slim but she is definitely not too thin..

Gina is too skinny.  I don't care who is doing what, stop it.  I've never met a man who thought bone skinny was sexy.  I'm worried that Gina can't control who TPTB think is the "best" so she's controlling the only thing she can get praise for: being skinny. 

VK is not slim.  I give her until the end of October before she's on weight warning.

1 hour ago, 5678Pixie said:

Victoria in pix #12 looks like the photographer tried to edit her stomach but really botched it.  

I wonder if these photographers are DCC staff employees.  Would they go to such length's trying to photoshop her smaller than she is?  To be clear, I do not think VK is fat in any universe, but she's heavier than at tryouts and DCC skinny is not natural for her. 

47 minutes ago, SmpIsimon said:

I think she just has a lot of excess skin from her  yo-yo dieting and it just moves around in weird ways when she dances. At least that’s what some of the girls on the squad think it is. 

That would explain what we call "sucking her stomach in" when it's really just flab moving around?  This is so strange. It doesn't matter.  She can eat a house and she'll still be point next year.  I wonder how long it will take the fans to bring some cow bells to games?  Again, why not just give them more than four inches of fabric so you can get some diversity in your dancers?  Hannah's shorts are nearly pornographic because she has a bit of a backside.  Is she too big to be a DCC?

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7 hours ago, DCCdazzle said:

 One item that is not discussed here much is when we are posting about what is shown on the CMT program, to remember that Kelli is an executive producer of the CMT program.  She was instumental in getting the program started, and as part of the branding department, she works with Charlotte Jones Anderson.  Charlotte is Vice President of Branding for the organization, etc., so they absolutely must have editing rights.  I can't imagine that Charlotte would allow it any other way.  This is comparable to film directors who often have "director's cut" rights.

So when we get disgusted with something, like when Kelli seems mean, it has to be their decision to show that scene to keep the drama going.  This past episode (or the one before) showed us a snippet that showed Meredith crying (again) with Kelli's voiceover saying "some of us will go home tonight." (my paraphrasing.)  I looked at that and thought they just wanted us to think that Meredith was working sooooo hard to make the team and that it had not already been decided that she would make the team.  Meredith drama 101.  Also, does anyone remember Kelli saying in the scene where it shows Meredith in her office that they like Meredith, but time is almost up??  Meredith drama 102.

On television shows, and executive producer supervises creative content and finances having to do with production.(ie. product placement). With all of the other responsibilities she has with being Director of DCC, she would not really have time to do editing.  The show is filmed in Dallas, but is probably edited at the production company, Triage Entertainment, in Los Angeles.

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11 minutes ago, DAthene said:

Thank you.  Yikes. 

I feel like the pic 12 showing stomach issues on VK reflects what I suspect about her posture from the “sucking in” look that many of us have observed.

 That is, VK has some posture problems. Specifically that her thoracic spine is out of control; she holds her shoulders back but then doesn’t balance this by using her core to lock her ribs down to her pelvis correctly, so her rib cage is tilted backwards and we see the bottom of her rib cage sticking out even though her body fat isn’t at a low enough level to see individual ribs.

I used to have that same thoracic postural problem so the more I see of her, the more I recognise it!

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8 hours ago, MyFavShows said:

What we’ve seen of Lisa’s personality she seems nice.  They haven’t shown much of Julia’s personality at all.  Both seem to be good dancers and cute, although Julia has a significantly better figure. 

Just because they don’t get along or have a little bit of history doesn’t seem like a reason to cut one or the other unless the problem is something MAJOR - like illegal activity or drama so bad it’s affecting their performance.   

If every dance and cheer team had a policy of all of you must get along 24-7 and if you don’t we will pick a side and cut one of you, there would be a lot of tiny, tiny dance squads. 

I actually feel kind of bad that all these Mavs girls are having to deal w/ their past dramas haunting them as they try to move to a new team - their old squad got disbanded and their choices are limited now if they want to keep dancing their style without moving.   The environment on the Mavs was probably totally different and may have led them to do things they wouldn’t have done in a different situation.  It would be nice if they could just have a clean slate w/ the new team, but it seems like a lot of people don’t want them to be able to.

I felt like the segment on Lisa about her college days came across snarky and arrogant. She does sound very intelligent and driven to have such high educational pursuits and wanting  to dance,  but they way she retold her story sounded flippant and braggadocious. She certainly didn't cross me as humble, a trait I'd hope the TPTB would want for any DCC.

Also, regarding Julia,  the night she was cut,  nearly the whole team was out with her at IHOP (if I remember correctly).  The girls were really upset by her cut,  shocked actually.  Doesn't seem they'd waste precious sleep on someone they didn't truly care for.  Julia has also been at some of the girls' social events since TC so they have kept in touch with her.  

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5 minutes ago, Pinknblue said:

I feel like the pic 12 showing stomach issues on VK reflects what I suspect about her posture from the “sucking in” look that many of us have observed.

 That is, VK has some posture problems. Specifically that her thoracic spine is out of control; she holds her shoulders back but then doesn’t balance this by using her core to lock her ribs down to her pelvis correctly, so her rib cage is tilted backwards and we see the bottom of her rib cage sticking out even though her body fat isn’t at a low enough level to see individual ribs.

I used to have that same thoracic postural problem so the more I see of her, the more I recognise it!

Interesting point.  I wonder if her posture issues are tied to her height?  She's very tall and many girls slouch to hide their tallness. Would this effect her ability to center her torso in spins? Jesus, I'm going to have to start being nice, aren't I?

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15 minutes ago, Pinknblue said:

I feel like the pic 12 showing stomach issues on VK reflects what I suspect about her posture from the “sucking in” look that many of us have observed.

 That is, VK has some posture problems. Specifically that her thoracic spine is out of control; she holds her shoulders back but then doesn’t balance this by using her core to lock her ribs down to her pelvis correctly, so her rib cage is tilted backwards and we see the bottom of her rib cage sticking out even though her body fat isn’t at a low enough level to see individual ribs.

I used to have that same thoracic postural problem so the more I see of her, the more I recognise it!

Or she’s in the middle of twisting for a dance move and that’s when the camera took the photo. 

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20 minutes ago, dccdancefan said:

I felt like the segment on Lisa about her college days came across snarky and arrogant. She does sound very intelligent and driven to have such high educational pursuits and wanting  to dance,  but they way she retold her story sounded flippant and braggadocious. She certainly didn't cross me as humble, a trait I'd hope the TPTB would want for any DCC.

Also, regarding Julia,  the night she was cut,  nearly the whole team was out with her at IHOP (if I remember correctly).  The girls were really upset by her cut,  shocked actually.  Doesn't seem they'd waste precious sleep on someone they didn't truly care for.  Julia has also been at some of the girls' social events since TC so they have kept in touch with her.  

Oh that’s right - she was the one who was told dancing and being a biomedical engineering major would be too much and she wanted to prove them wrong and did.   I guess it was a little braggy, but not that bad (I thought Daphne’s UCLA rant was 100 times worse).

She seemed nice in the segment at the vet hospital I remember though.

I do wonder if Lisa works at a job in the engineering field now, or otherwise, what was the deal w/ getting that degree?   A lot of engineering firms recruit in colleges and want people fresh out of school.  Not sure an engineering major who spent 2-3 years as a yoga instructor/DCC after college would get the same opportunities as one coming straight from college.

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16 minutes ago, dccdancefan said:

I felt like the segment on Lisa about her college days came across snarky and arrogant. She does sound very intelligent and driven to have such high educational pursuits and wanting  to dance,  but they way she retold her story sounded flippant and braggadocious. She certainly didn't cross me as humble, a trait I'd hope the TPTB would want for any DCC.

This is up on the DCC Twitter page today, and they say “often imitated, never equaled” before Thunderstruck, as well as constantly talking about how you have to be one of the best to make it. FWIW, I’m not bothered by the DCCs or Lisa. I agree that it doesn’t meet the dictionary definition of humble, but it’s true, and in Lisa’s case, she didn’t put down anyone other than the counselor, who may have meant well, but wrongfully tried to tell her what she couldn’t do. She just advertised her abilities, which you have to be able to do in competitive, male dominated fields, like she’s in - especially as a young, petite woman. People can certainly go overboard into arrogance, and Lisa may be like that in person. Obviously, I don’t know her, but I got where she was coming from in the segment.

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