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itsweird

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13 hours ago, one2three said:

I couldn’t help but notice that’s Gina overly edits her photos and makes herself appear even thinner than she actually is. 

Notice the difference between these two

Where are her eye balls?  It looks like she doesn't have eyes.  I barely wear any eye shadow so I can't wrap my head around wearing so much make up that your eye sockets appear hollow.  

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If Julia did say "Fuck this," then I'd like to compliment her on summing up my feelings about this entire season so succinctly.

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7 minutes ago, dreamcatcher said:

Yeah that’s what I think too. Most “amateur’ photoshoppers trying to make themselves thinner are too obvious as they end up distorting the image.

I think we’ve established that a vet ‘losing’ her SG spot has happened only once in the history of the show at least? Doesn’t seem too common.

One other note ... Kashara / Kelli  / Kahlyn retired ... there were other spots to be taken and not just a simple VK against Jalyn.   I myself would like know the ranking ... we will see this week what happened ... I see (which is a rare view on this board LOL)  that VK reeled in her outbursts this season and is working hard.  Also  Cassie was not on show group her rookie year (I think) ... looks like she barely made the team ... .. just another observation that all is not nepotism  🙂 

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dreamcatcher

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35 minutes ago, lah715 said:

One other note ... Kashara / Kelli  / Kahlyn retired ... there were other spots to be taken and not just a simple VK against Jalyn.   I myself would like know the ranking ... we will see this week what happened ... I see (which is a rare view on this board LOL)  that VK reeled in her outbursts this season and is working hard.  Also  Cassie was not on show group her rookie year (I think) ... looks like she barely made the team ... .. just another observation that all is not nepotism  🙂 

If it’s true that VK got Jalyn into trouble, then yes she is directly related to this. Otherwise, yes I agree it’s not like Jalyn lost out specifically to VK. However, the 2 other rookies and the vets who got into sg for the first time are all deserving. VK will never outdance someone like Jalyn considering that her technique is a mess and she can hardly dance in her own space.

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dreamcatcher

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9 minutes ago, DCCFanInKy said:

For whoever was missing the Makeovers 

I find it hard to believe that Kelli approves of "tattling".  JMO....

Tattling is actually required based on both inside info we’ve gotten in the past and the whole jenna/holly thing. Even if it wasn’t ‘approved’, well I guess lying isn’t approved either but they seem to accept it if it comes from vk...

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DCCFanInKy

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3 minutes ago, dreamcatcher said:

Tattling is actually required based on both inside info we’ve gotten in the past and the whole jenna/holly thing. Even if it wasn’t ‘approved’, well I guess lying isn’t approved either but they seem to accept it if it comes from vk...

Pretty sad that tattling and lying are "approved" from such a "World Class" organization.

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MTTFan

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12 minutes ago, DCCFanInKy said:

For whoever was missing the Makeovers 

I find it hard to believe that Kelli approves of "tattling".  JMO....

I have no doubt that Kelly approves of tattling -- its the way she is kept informed of what goes on with the team -- The rumor was the Cassie excelled at it.

Couple of examples Minchew and Gina getting called out for being plastic and having RBF.

Having said that -- if the girls aren't supposed to approach the K/J directly whatever is going on is probably filtered through the group leaders.

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DCCFanInKy

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Just now, scorpio1031 said:

Or Cassie

5 minutes ago, dreamcatcher said:

Tattling is actually required based on both inside info we’ve gotten in the past and the whole jenna/holly thing. Even if it wasn’t ‘approved’, well I guess lying isn’t approved either but they seem to accept it if it comes from vk...

Yes it seems that tattling and lying are only "approved" if it comes from a "legacy"

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Eh, I count VK as legit.  Maybe it's all the rewatching of Pluto I've been doing the past couple of weeks, but VK is a stronger dancer and looks more like a DCC than plenty of others who have made the team in the past.  Is she immature?  Sure, but she's in good company on that front.  Her momma just happens to be Kelli's BFF.  Is she not supposed to try out because of that?  And we've seen multiple times where Kelli gives the benefit of the doubt to some, but not others.  Ika Irene, for example, but she gave Taylor and Karissa chance after chance that same season.

That said, when does being a good leader and calling attention to a problem to your leadership become tattling?  What's the line?  I think Jenna was put in a shit situation by Holly, and she handled it poorly, but I have a bit of sympathy for her.  Rewatched Holly's rookie year, and she moved to Dallas with her mom and little brother.  She's from a tiny little town and went to Tulsa for dance lessons.  Driving two hours to the studio each way doesn't lend itself to much of a social life, and I suspect Holly went batshit when she finally got to live on her own.  I"m sure we've all seen it happen a million times with peers when we were in that 18-22 stage.

And then they both got stars in their eyes like total fools when the football players were flirting with them, add in some booze, etc.  Kelli was SO VERY RIGHT to call them out on their bullshit, but again, I'm not entirely without sympathy.  Of course Jenna didn't want to narc on her friend, but there was a million better ways to handling it, including perhaps sharing her concerns (if she had them) with another group leader and letting them take it to leadership.  The way the cards played, Jenna got to stay on the team when Erica and Holly were both booted/quit.

I don't know...so much of this seems like petty bullshit to me.  I enjoy watching the show and I enjoy the real life chatter about the ladies on the squad, but don't see much point in being malicious.

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MTTFan

MTTFan

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10 minutes ago, lah715 said:

Not so much ... I got the impression Ally Traylor and Sarah Gorley did their fair share of some of what the "legacies" are being accused of 🙄

Maybe -- but they didn't wash out of TC the first time out and then come back to TCC and not only make the team but make SG.  They were also group leaders I believe.

VK was excused because of her mom -- she is never going to get around that -- the same way that Cassie will never get around the fact that she made it back her last year after injury because of Judy.

Jay was right -- if she had been other candidate she would not have made it back.  (Yes, I know Danielle made back after injury, but maybe she shouldn't have.  On the other hand, she obviously worked her ass off to get back to where she needed to be.)

Unfortunately the hypocrisy and lack of consistency is rampant -- we can all bitch about it but there it is.

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kalibean

kalibean

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If you're injured on the job and can't get your spot back after four years on the team because you haven't recovered 100%, that seems like total BS to me.  Brooke Sorenson got the same grace.  I do think they pick and choose on that front, but there was already a precedent set for such things.

Maybe the DCC need an "injured reserve" spot on the roster!

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lah715

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4 minutes ago, MTTFan said:

Maybe -- but they didn't wash out of TC the first time out and then came back to TCC and not only make the team but made SG.  They were also group leaders I believe.

VK was excused because of her mom -- she is never going to get around that -- the same way that Cassie will never get around the fact that she made it back her last year her last year after injury because of Judy.

Jay was right -- if she had been other candidate she would not have made it back.  (Yes, I know Danielle made back after injury, but maybe she shouldn't have.  On the other hand, she obviously worked her ass off to get back to where she needed to be.)

Unfortunately the hypocrisy and lack of consistency is rampant -- we can all bitch about it but there it is.

Cassie making it back for her last year ... was deserving .. she had 4 years invested and hurt on USO tour not on her own time  ... Giving a pass to a veteran as apposed to an unknown trying out is apples and oranges and the Judges voted her in anyway ... I highly doubt they were afraid of Judy and if Charlotte approved then why not ... if I were hurt at a job and put in years I would hope they would show some support and keep me.   They kept Brooke and she was just one year in ... I think injuries just depend on the dancer. 

I am trying to understand the hypocrisy ... Danielle not voted in second year yet kept ... Brooke hurt during training camp and basically out all season yet kept .. Kandi hurt her 3rd season and looking at her weight should have been let go yet kept .... VK (Legacy) brought into camp gained weight and couldnt keep up with dance and let go .... Cassie (legacy) barely making training camp and not put on SG until 2nd or 3rd year... 

I guess its just they way every person views a situation .... Morgan SUCKED and yet put on because of an obligation to someone ... I am thinking Kat also was a favor spot to someone in the organization or close to it ..

7 minutes ago, kalibean said:

If you're injured on the job and can't get your spot back after four years on the team because you haven't recovered 100%, that seems like total BS to me.  Brooke Sorenson got the same grace.  I do think they pick and choose on that front, but there was already a precedent set for such things.

Maybe the DCC need an "injured reserve" spot on the roster!

I totally agree ... cannot understand why they dont pick 36 regulars and 2 alternates like the do for show group ... look what happened a couple years ago with rookies and vets not completing their season.

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1 hour ago, dreamcatcher said:

Tattling is actually required based on both inside info we’ve gotten in the past and the whole jenna/holly thing. Even if it wasn’t ‘approved’, well I guess lying isn’t approved either but they seem to accept it if it comes from vk...

First Jenna got in trouble for NOT tattling on Holly then everyone hated her for tattling on Erica.  These women can't win. 

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kalibean

kalibean

I'm mostly joking about the injured reserve - the All Stars fill in for performances as needed, so they've got that covered.  But if a veteran needs to be put on desk/ambassador only duty while they recover from an injury, that legit makes perfect sense to me.  That's what would happen if they were injured during the regular season, so why not also during camp?  They're being punished for timing?  That's silly.  I see why they wouldn't do it for a newbie TCC that hasn't yet proven themselves to the organization, though. 

IMO, since there are just a handful of football games, most of their actual time in uniform is spent on ambassador duties anyway.  It's not like they're Rockettes, doing 3-5 shows a day and just a tiny bit of ambassador type duties.  The DCC is a dance job, sure, but a very different animal than most actual dance jobs.

Show Group is an interesting thing to me as well...back when Cassie was on the squad, they did full tours and variety shows.  Her singing and tumbling abilities gave her a little extra, even though her dancing was in the lower quartile for the squad.  I don't think they do those same types of performances now, though.  

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scorpio1031

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8 minutes ago, kalibean said:

I'm mostly joking about the injured reserve - the All Stars fill in for performances as needed, so they've got that covered.  But if a veteran needs to be put on desk/ambassador only duty while they recover from an injury, that legit makes perfect sense to me. 

That was Cassie's 4th knee surgery.  I think that is why the story was going around that she never did the rehab on it that she should to rebuild the strength.  She would just go back to pro cheer, stunts, dance, etc, and put pressure on it.  And I don't remember if she ended up doing kick line her last season.  I think someone said she wasn't doing kick line on the USO tour.  But being a DCC for her 5th season was what she and mama wanted.

kalibean

kalibean

15 minutes ago, scorpio1031 said:

That was Cassie's 4th knee surgery.  I think that is why the story was going around that she never did the rehab on it that she should to rebuild the strength.  She would just go back to pro cheer, stunts, dance, etc, and put pressure on it.  And I don't remember if she ended up doing kick line her last season.  I think someone said she wasn't doing kick line on the USO tour.  But being a DCC for her 5th season was what she and mama wanted.

Yeah, that's bananas.  Call me crazy, but I would prefer to be able to function normally in my non-athlete years.  FOUR SURGERIES!!  I mean, there's your sign.  I'm sure Andrew Luck wanted to keep making his millions too, but at some point you just want quality of life.  And it's not like the DCC are bringing in NFL money.

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3 minutes ago, kalibean said:

Yeah, that's bananas.  Call me crazy, but I would prefer to be able to function normally in my non-athlete years.  FOUR SURGERIES!!  I mean, there's your sign.  I'm sure Andrew Luck wanted to keep making his millions too, but at some point you just want quality of life.  And it's not like the DCC are bringing in NFL money.

Right? When she has to use a walker at age 55 she will definitely be kicking herself

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iloveit

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3 minutes ago, Jennv said:

Just saw a news report that Erica’s lawsuit settled and as a result the squad got a raise

That's great!  Here is one of the reports for reference: https://www.wfaa.com/article/sports/nfl/cowboys/cowboys-settle-cheerleader-pay-dispute-entire-squad-gets-pay-boost/287-7dc7f6a3-8d36-44bf-8a5c-466cff75c3de

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CrazyMoon

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22 minutes ago, Jennv said:

Right? When she has to use a walker at age 55 she will definitely be kicking herself

She'll get her new knee before that...and most likely be wondering why she didn't do it sooner...

5 minutes ago, Jennv said:

Just saw a news report that Erica’s lawsuit settled and as a result the squad got a raise

Oooh, they'll be making about $20k unless my math is way off...

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DCCFanInKy

DCCFanInKy

3 hours ago, MTTFan said:

Having said that -- if the girls aren't supposed to approach the K/J directly whatever is going on is probably filtered through the group leaders.

That's one of the strangest things I've heard here.  What's the problem with the girls just "speaking" to K&J?  And what happens if a cheerleader needs to talk to K&J before the GL's are named?

CrazyInAlabama

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I looked at CMT's episode guide, and for this Friday's episode they have a blurb about makeovers, so I'm not expecting much time devoted to that.    I really like the makeovers, and wish they showed much more of that.    I have read that Marshall's salon (Tangerine I think) does DCC type makeovers, and I'm wondering if a lot of aspiring DCC go there before tryouts, and some probably do a consultation, and then get the makeover during training camp

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dreamcatcher

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2 hours ago, MTTFan said:

Maybe -- but they didn't wash out of TC the first time out and then come back to TCC and not only make the team but make SG.  They were also group leaders I believe.

VK was excused because of her mom -- she is never going to get around that -- the same way that Cassie will never get around the fact that she made it back her last year after injury because of Judy.

Jay was right -- if she had been other candidate she would not have made it back.  (Yes, I know Danielle made back after injury, but maybe she shouldn't have.  On the other hand, she obviously worked her ass off to get back to where she needed to be.)

Unfortunately the hypocrisy and lack of consistency is rampant -- we can all bitch about it but there it is.

With Danielle though i believe it was quite unfair she was judged on an injury so fresh-she literally injured her foot during rehearsals for her solo. That’s something you know will be fixed before the first month of tc is over the latest. Cassie’s problem was much more severe.

2 hours ago, DanceProf said:

First Jenna got in trouble for NOT tattling on Holly then everyone hated her for tattling on Erica.  These women can't win. 

I honestly don’t get what happened there considering that they’re still friends.

1 hour ago, kalibean said:

Yeah, that's bananas.  Call me crazy, but I would prefer to be able to function normally in my non-athlete years.  FOUR SURGERIES!!  I mean, there's your sign.  I'm sure Andrew Luck wanted to keep making his millions too, but at some point you just want quality of life.  And it's not like the DCC are bringing in NFL money.

No offense and i may sound mean, but is she completely crazy? Not that I was ever a Cassie fan, but now I also think she’s completely stupid and I blame Judy too. You don’t put yourself through that just to have the honor of dancing in underwear. What the hell? And she was also an accident waiting to happen-we all saw her almost taking down these poor guys during the pink halftime rehearsal.  That right there should have been a termination reason for Judy. You don’t risk a career ending injury on behalf of unsuspecting people just to get a stupid ring (or whatever they get for the 5th year) for your daughter. 

I’m just glad Cassie and VK had some years apart because I can’t even with them.

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parrotfeathers

parrotfeathers

2 hours ago, lah715 said:

They kept Brooke and she was just one year in ... I think injuries just depend on the dancer. 

Deryn was also injured and could not do leg lifts for a few weeks.   And had to go to the DCC doctors for it.  They sure did not want to let her go and I don't blame them.

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pinkandsparkly13

pinkandsparkly13

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I know the Jenna and Holly situation has been talked about so much but I just wanted to say some things. I know she was supposed to be a leader and all it was her job, and she should be setting a good example and blah blah blah. Lol but I'm sure Jenna was enjoying partying with players and stuff as much as Holly was, so why should/would she tell her not to do that? When Kelli was asking her if she just watched her friends drown and make bad choices and not say anything, why was that her responsibility? When Jenna was doing the same thing, except not drinking/going to a bar underage. Why would she be expected to tattle on Holly when she was right there with her? That wouldn't make sense. Ha 

And certainly in other people's lives, they might have underage friends that they drink with or buy alcohol for. Not that's it right, I'm just saying. We should help our friends make good choices and they had rules about those kinds of things. But Jenna was participating in it and having a good time presumably. So it's like why was that all she was seemingly in trouble for, not stopping Holly..of course it was probably more than that, but they didn't really show it.

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DCCFanInKy

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13 minutes ago, parrotfeathers said:

Deryn was also injured and could not do leg lifts for a few weeks.   And had to go to the DCC doctors for it.  They sure did not want to let her go and I don't blame them.

WOC, good storyline with the hurricane (Katrina?), decent dancer

ETA didn't she dance for the NO Saints?

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lah715

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16 minutes ago, dreamcatcher said:

With Danielle though i believe it was quite unfair she was judged on an injury so fresh-she literally injured her foot during rehearsals for her solo. That’s something you know will be fixed before the first month of tc is over the latest. Cassie’s problem was much more severe.

I honestly don’t get what happened there considering that they’re still friends.

No offense and i may sound mean, but is she completely crazy? Not that I was ever a Cassie fan, but now I also think she’s completely stupid and I blame Judy too. You don’t put yourself through that just to have the honor of dancing in underwear. What the hell? And she was also an accident waiting to happen-we all saw her almost taking down these poor guys during the pink halftime rehearsal.  That right there should have been a termination reason for Judy. You don’t risk a career ending injury on behalf of unsuspecting people just to get a stupid ring (or whatever they get for the 5th year) for your daughter. 

I’m just glad Cassie and VK had some years apart because I can’t even with them.

In defense of the half time show ... they had the guys to close behind her group and when they threw her into the air they had no room to step back ... that was that coaches fault ... he should have had them spread farther apart.  Once they did the correction the half time went without incident .. as I recall 😉

ClosetDCCFan

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On 9/9/2019 at 6:13 PM, TB12 said:

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Every time I see this picture I think of the Denise Austin work out videos from the late 80s where she would be laying on the floor stretching at the end of the workout, and say “make yourself loooong and skinnnny” in her annoying breathy voice.  Lol

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ShellyB

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On 9/9/2019 at 1:22 PM, kalibean said:

@ShellyB - I think what @DCC fan in KY was asking was how many All Stars have been used at one time as a sub for a particular performance.  IE, have more than two ever been used in a pre-game performance?  The total number of All-Stars seems consistent, but sometimes none are needed for a game, sometimes two, maybe more?  Yikes, that would be a tough day for injuries on the regular squad!  

I think there has only been one time when two All Stars did TS...Emma & Mia, maybe Emma & Jennifer too.  I'm jogging my memory of when we would have to wait for them to start suite visits.

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ByTor

ByTor

1 hour ago, lah715 said:

In defense of the half time show ... they had the guys to close behind her group and when they threw her into the air they had no room to step back ... that was that coaches fault ... he should have had them spread farther apart.  Once they did the correction the half time went without incident .. as I recall 😉

I just saw this episode the other day.  That coach was chewing them out that they should have known better.  I have no idea how those kinds of tricks are done, so I had no idea who looked to be at fault LOL.

Lolfordays

Lolfordays

4 hours ago, MTTFan said:

Maybe -- but they didn't wash out of TC the first time out and then come back to TCC and not only make the team but make SG.  They were also group leaders I believe.

VK was excused because of her mom -- she is never going to get around that -- the same way that Cassie will never get around the fact that she made it back her last year after injury because of Judy.

Jay was right -- if she had been other candidate she would not have made it back.  (Yes, I know Danielle made back after injury, but maybe she shouldn't have.  On the other hand, she obviously worked her ass off to get back to where she needed to be.)

Unfortunately the hypocrisy and lack of consistency is rampant -- we can all bitch about it but there it is.

You can hang a lot of shit on Cassie — god knows she has faults. But I always thought bringing her back for year five was the right thing to do. 

She held up the standards of a DCC for four years — even if we think rattling and being bossy aren’t great traits, TPTB do.

She got hurt on the job after four years of getting the job done — bringing her back was legit. They knew where she was in recovery at that point, and she had proven to be a team player.

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MTTFan

MTTFan

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15 minutes ago, Lolfordays said:

You can hang a lot of shit on Cassie — god knows she has faults. But I always thought bringing her back for year five was the right thing to do. 

She held up the standards of a DCC for four years — even if we think rattling and being bossy aren’t great traits, TPTB do.

She got hurt on the job after four years of getting the job done — bringing her back was legit. They knew where she was in recovery at that point, and she had proven to be a team player.

I have no arguments with Cassie per se and I have posted elsewhere that I believed that she had proven herself over the four years. My point was to use her as an example of some candidates/legacies are given something of a "pass" a la VK - VK was given a pass without having the proven track record of Cassie and only because of her mom.  If VK has been anybody else, say Taylor for instance who repeatedly hedged the truth with Kelli.  Taylor never would have made her way back into camp.

I agree as a four year vet she was as one of the judges said, "no doubt a DCC," I think even Judy thought it when she was asked to leave the room "I would have thought she had the support of the judges." (I also happen to think that Judy being asked to leave the room was staged for the show -- an attempt to not show bias -- Jay may have been going out on a limb by voicing his opinion.)

Further, as Cassie goes, it may be somewhat unreasonable to consider what she said or did as "tattling."  I mean, seriously, what was she supposed to do - not talk to her mom? 

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scorpio1031

scorpio1031

6 minutes ago, MTTFan said:

Further, as Cassie goes, it may be somewhat unreasonable to consider what she said or did as "tattling."  I mean, seriously, what was she supposed to do - not talk to her mom? 

Was she "tattling" or "embellishing"?  There is a difference.   And if it's true Judy told the judges Olivia S was toxic cause she got into it with Cassie, then that is another example of nepotism.  

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Bellisima08

Bellisima08

21 hours ago, Blue hues said:

So is this the official reveal of the photo?  I thought only the TPTB were the only ones to introduce the pic?  Or do the Kalinas play by their own rules?

Well if it was anyone else on the team posting the squad picture early, I'm sure there would be consequences, but Kelli probably saw the photo and was like "oh look how great my bestie Tina looks. Go ahead & share that so EVERYONE can enjoy it!"

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ByTor

ByTor

1 minute ago, Bellisima08 said:

Well if it was anyone else on the team posting the squad picture early, I'm sure there would be consequences, but Kelli probably saw the photo and was like "oh look how great my bestie Tina looks. Go ahead & share that so EVERYONE can enjoy it!"

I'll actually give Tina a pass, if the photo was already in the gameday program it was fair game.

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Lona

Lona

4 hours ago, Jennv said:

Just saw a news report that Erica’s lawsuit settled and as a result the squad got a raise

Did I find the situation with Erica to be rather annoying at times? Yes
Do I think she was a great dancer? Yes
Do I think that this squad of talented ladies deserved a raise? 100% absolutely yes.

So thank you Erica's lawsuit, thank you.

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