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S04.E12: Don't Cry for Me, Sirocco


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Capt. Sandy determines that one of the positions is redundant; Joao confronts Jack over his work ethic; an overwhelmed Anastasia is pushed to her breaking point; when Colin learns that someone will have to leave the boat, he makes a bold move.

Airs August 19, 2019.

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Ugh please tell me Collin isn’t crying over the fact that June has to leave, because Anastasia goes back to third strew. Yea it’s too bad, But really if he’s gunna cry about it and try to leave his own job for her, I’m gunna be really disappointed in him. I hope I’m wrong and that isn’t what happens. 

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4 minutes ago, PaperTree said:

The tip was light and he blamed the food.

June is just over the top.  It's not personal, it's called seniority.

Anastasia was the one who cooked the food. He also said something else, but I can’t recall exactly what he said.

Welcome to the real world, June.

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Just de-lurking to comment on June...was it me or did she NOT take any action when the pan was burning? Granted the Captain did not know but she seems a little light on brain cells. That being said, I can see both sides regarding who should have been let go. Not sure why Anastasia could not have stuck it out for the remaining few weeks since she accepted the chef position and wanted to give it up.

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7 minutes ago, tabloidlover said:

It doesn’t even make sense.  You can’t swap a stew for a lead deckhand.  Totally different job description and skill set.  🙄

SHe has been a deck hand before.

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Sorry Travis, that 'love' tap was more than love.  You don't do that.  Good for Joao for going after him for that.  Looks like Aesha and Jack were the only ones who defended it.  Says a lot.

25?  Cause it's a quarter?  Ok June.  Your mind just works 'differently'.   Eye roll.

I'd hate to see Collen go but I get he's over it.  I didn't see him in the preview but maybe I missed something.

Ben's back.  This will be interesting.

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Good grief, June is as dumb as a box of rocks with the personality of wallpaper glue.

I just about spit out my drink when she thought 1/4 past on the clock meant 25 minutes as in 25 cents an actual quarter.

Loved Joao confronting drunk Travis after he slapped Ana and also when Colin said he was going to leave to give June a chance to stay how he got all emo and the really nice things he said about Colin.

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11 minutes ago, tabloidlover said:

It doesn’t even make sense.  You can’t swap a stew for a lead deckhand.  Totally different job description and skill set.  🙄

Colin isn’t lead deckhand Travis is and June has worked as a deckhand before.

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1 minute ago, movingtargetgal said:

Travis slapped Ana in the face and there are NO excuses.  He was drunk and angry at Hannah so he lashed out at Ana.  Travis is an angry belligerent drunk which is a problem for him and those around him. He knows he gets this way when he drinks yet makes the choice to keep drinking.  

Jwow and Hannah should have immediately informed Sandy that Travis assaulted Ana.  He should have been fired.  

AND that would have solved the extra staff member issue.

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Let say Colin does leave and they offer the spot to June why would he think she would take it. She was just fired who would want to stay somewhere they feel they aren't wanted. 

How did no one report what Travis did. It really shows how little they respect their captain that they would report a major violation. You would think she would be embarrassed by this behavior but she will say she didnt know what was going on until she seen the show. Lady you run the damn boat you should know everything that happens. 

I get Jack defending Travis because they are friends and when the both sobered up he told travis he was in the wrong but that dumb ass Aesha saying everyone was making a big deal out of the situation and Joao is such a dickhead for sticking up for someone who got smacked out of no where why dont you see how Anastasia is doing see how she feels is in the wrong. 

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June has deckhand experience, but omg, I cannot imagine she would be any better on deck than she has been in the interior. I am sure that is one reason Sandy is pleading with Colin to stay. Plus, Colin is so well liked by everyone and is a hard worker. June is just out to lunch. 

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June would have stood there making orange juice and let the ship burn down around her.  She saw the smoke and did nothing.    She was mad because her fame whore time on television was ending.  Why would they let Ana go, when Ana was helping out by cooking.  June acts like someone who has always been pampered and not ever told no.

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I’m officially over Aesha. She thinks it’s okay that Travis slapped Anastasia, and is mad at Joao because he was ready to beat the snot out of Travis because it was a “joke”. Nothing about a man hitting a woman is funny. The same way Jack’s tasteless rape joke wasn’t funny. Those three are just trash and need to be fired instead of June. Joao was taking names this episode, he was just ready for those two clowns. I personally feel as though João wanted to knock either Travis or Jack out a long time ago, he just needed a reason. I guess he didn’t have bail money.

Captain Sandy could have at least given June a warning once she realized she was going to move Anastasia back to 3rd stew. Someone needs to snatch Colin, and snatch him quickly. I understand that he’s home sick and is over the antics of the others, but quitting so June could stay is a silly move. 

Cutest moment: Joao crying because his broby wants to leave.

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8 minutes ago, Pickles said:

am sure that is one reason Sandy is pleading with Colin to stay. 

Sandy would lose her shit if she had to have more contact with June which she would if she were deckhand. Hmm, even though I can’t stand her maybe that would be a good reason for her to stay!

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Aww Collin being emotional was giving me feels. He’s such a sweetheart. I do hope he ends up staying. It just wouldn’t be the same without him. I don’t mind June but I can’t say I’d miss her. She just lifts right out. 

Travis is a tool and should have been the one fired. I’m not a huge Anastasia fan but I appreciate that she had that frank talk with him about his drinking. 

17 minutes ago, mbaywife123 said:

Oops, I just posted my responses for this episode in the media thread.

Would one of you kind and computer smart people move it to this thread please?

Thanks!

You can just copy and paste it in this thread. 

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47 minutes ago, L2vagaJovi said:

Just de-lurking to comment on June...was it me or did she NOT take any action when the pan was burning? Granted the Captain did not know but she seems a little light on brain cells. That being said, I can see both sides regarding who should have been let go. Not sure why Anastasia could not have stuck it out for the remaining few weeks since she accepted the chef position and wanted to give it up.

She literally just stood there juicing oranges while the galley filled up with smoke 

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8 minutes ago, spunky said:

She literally just stood there juicing oranges while the galley filled up with smoke 

It's like her mind moves in an alternate universe.

Fresh juice or pan smoking on cooktop leading to a possible fire, what should one do?

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4 minutes ago, spunky said:

She literally just stood there juicing oranges while the galley filled up with smoke 

Poor girl IS slow and I’m saying that non maliciously. Which makes me okay with her cause she’s not being belligerent, or mean spirited she’s just a very guarded person. It was really sad to she her assess the situation. She checked to see if the vent was open and went about her way. That’s a person who isn’t confident enough in herself to take control of a situation. She figured that’s what the chef wanted and wasn’t comfortable asserting her own instincts, which were right, and pulling the pan away. Sad to say that’s a very very young mentality but as troublesome as that may be it isn’t deliberate. So there’s that. 

Oh and the “quarter passed” situation... I was one of those people who took a little long to learn to tell time and well let’s just say I too had a bit of a problem with quarter passed. To me quarter meant 25.. it really isn’t that outrageous... I think it’s a bad trend in life to automatically make someone feel bad about these type of things. If u stop and think about it it really isn’t that much of a stretch to understand the confusion. People just like harping on embarrassing moments more instead of acknowledging that “a quarter passed” could easily be misunderstood as 25 minutes.. no one is thinking about mathematically equations when asking for the time and one hour is 60 minutes.. not a clean mathematical number, broken up into quarters is 15.. who the fuck deals with 60 as the whole and then quartering it?? It is a random math equation if u think about it.. just saying... 

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4 minutes ago, mbaywife123 said:

It's like her mind moves in an alternate universe.

Fresh juice or pan smoking on cooktop leading to a possible fire, what should one do?

She appears to always be out to lunch.

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Colin isn’t going anywhere.  His offer to leave is chivalrous, but also stupid and impractical.  I don’t care if June, June, Hannah has deck experience- she’s an airhead who would make a terrible deckhand.  It’s not fair to J-Wow or the rest of the deck crew, or even the guests.

And of course all this deck shuffling is Sandy’s fault.  She is such a horrible manager.

Can’t wait for Ben!  

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59 minutes ago, notcreative enough said:

You would think she would be embarrassed by this behavior but she will say she didnt know what was going on until she seen the show. Lady you run the damn boat you should know everything that happens

To be fair, how would she know if no one tells her?  They were out at a restaurant in town. It’s like saying my boss should know what goes on in my home. 

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3 minutes ago, Yours Truly said:

Poor girl IS slow and I’m saying that non maliciously. Which makes me okay with her cause she’s not being belligerent, or mean spirited she’s just a very guarded person. It was really sad to she her assess the situation. She checked to see if the vent was open and went about her way. That’s a person who isn’t confident enough in herself to take control of a situation. She figured that’s what the chef wanted and wasn’t comfortable asserting her own instincts, which were right, and pulling the pan away. Sad to say that’s a very very young mentality but as troublesome as that may be it isn’t deliberate. So there’s that. 

Oh and the “quarter passed” situation... I was one of those people who took a little long to learn to tell time and well let’s just say I too had a bit of a problem with quarter passed. To me quarter meant 25.. it really isn’t that outrageous... I think it’s a bad trend in life to automatically make someone feel bad about these type of things. If u stop and think about it it really isn’t that much of a stretch to understand the confusion. People just like harping on embarrassing moments more instead of acknowledging that “a quarter passed” could easily be misunderstood as 25 minutes.. no one is thinking about mathematically equations when asking for the time and one hour is 60 minutes.. not a clean mathematical number, broken up into quarters is 15.. who the fuck deals with 60 as the whole and then quartering it?? It is a random math equation if u think about it.. just saying... 

Her whole time confusion wasn’t a big deal to me. It was the fact that she saw the overheating pan and went on about her way. I do believe there is something going on with her cognitive wise. It appears as though it takes her longer to process things. 

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2 minutes ago, spunky said:

She appears to always be out to lunch.

If Colin goes, leaving Travis, Jack, and June as the only deck hands? Good god, that’s terrifying. Those three would watch the boat sink sooner than be productive.

Just because June has experience doesn’t mean Sandy would hire her to replace Colin. Nor does it mean she’d take the job. I’m hoping both those factors keep Colin. 

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1 minute ago, VagueDisclaimer said:

If Colin goes, leaving Travis, Jack, and June as the only deck hands? Good god, that’s terrifying. Those three would watch the boat sink sooner than be productive.

Just because June has experience doesn’t mean Sandy would hire her to replace Colin. Nor does it mean she’d take the job. I’m hoping both those factors keep Colin. 

I feel as though June would be more productive in one day on deck than Jack and Travis have been all season.

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6 minutes ago, spunky said:

I feel as though June would be more productive in one day on deck than Jack and Travis have been all season.

I don’t disagree completely. But her watching that pan burn while making orange juice was scary. Having her be in charge of anything  on deck is not the kind of productive this boat needs, imo. 

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3 minutes ago, VagueDisclaimer said:

Just because June has experience doesn’t mean Sandy would hire her to replace Colin. Nor does it mean she’d take the job. I’m hoping both those factors keep Colin.

Exactly.  Colin’s swap idea was ridiculous.  I think he’s just been really unhappy since day one, and saw this as an opportunity to leave.  But it won’t fly for the reasons you stated.  

The part that surprises me is the tv angle.  I always got the impression he enjoyed being on tv and the whole reality tv-fame thing, so I’m surprised he’s ok with walking away from that.  For this season and I guess future seasons.

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These "guests" were so faux and vapid. As most of them are getting to be! (Shitty casting and story lines now for this show).

Arguing over dinner about someone or his "date" not bringing anything to a byob party and taking away a fifty dollar bottle upon leaving. "How dreadful" (TM Dwight from RHOA).

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23 minutes ago, VagueDisclaimer said:

If Colin goes, leaving Travis, Jack, and June as the only deck hands? Good god, that’s terrifying. Those three would watch the boat sink sooner than be productive.

Just because June has experience doesn’t mean Sandy would hire her to replace Colin. Nor does it mean she’d take the job. I’m hoping both those factors keep Colin. 

But if Colin wants to quit, that's on him.  He's made it obvious he doesn't want to be here.

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I'm sorry, but June's reaction was on the childish side.  I'm sorry you don't like the situation, but as someone above said, last on, first to go.  I was surprised the way she spoke to Captain Sandy.  Cap said she'd give you a good reference and you tell her letting me go is bullshit.  Ummm... did I say reference? Never mind.   Everything in June's mind was all about June and no reasoning about the situation.  She just needs some maturity.  On a better note - Ben's coming, Ben's coming!!!

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