S09.E24: Reunion Part 3

[ancslove]

5 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

I know a shit ton of people that swear on loved ones lives that are lying liars that lie.... The questions asked was it specific to HER giving the story to radar online or was it did you have anyone else give stories? I'm just glad now this is OVER it just drug on way to long like last years pantie plotline ….. 

Well, Ramona swore on Avery’s life, and was caught out on camera.  I do think LVP is leaning into the technicality there.  And there was clearly a proposed plot to out Dorit on camera for the show (which would have been absolutely warranted), and in the end, Lisa changed her mind.  If she’d come clean early in the Bahamas, thus forcing full confessions from Teddi and Kyle, and explained that she thought better of it because she’d told Dorit already that she wasn’t upset, LVP could have maintained full control of the story and fallout, and none of the rest would’ve happened.

[langford peel]

Thank God I can permanently delete this shit show from my DVR. The last episode was indicative of the whole season. The only one who brought a storyline was Camille and all of the kumbaya moments of these greats friendships were barely mentioned. Barely a mention of the camping trip or the big French vacation. They spent more time arguing about what Teddi did on her way to the bathroom in the airport.

Instead we saw a gang up led by Satan Andy that reduced Camille to a weeping quivering mess. Plus non-stop LVP bashing and lies from Dorito and Kyle.

Kyle is really a moron. She realizes that the audience has turned against her as her constant mentions of twitter and trolls let’s her put a good face on her contempt for normal people like Monty from Magooville or whatever bullshit she spewed. Rinna is a much smarter weasel. She was very quiet and really restrained from her performance in prior years.  She knows her best strategy is to keep her head down and parlay her friendship with Denise into another season.

Erika was even smarter. She was comatose throughout the whole reunion. Not just content to be made up like a corpse she acted like one.   I guess now we know what Tom sees in her.

Thank you for confirming my decision  to never watch this franchise again.

Edited July 31, 2019 by langford peel

[RealHousewife]

3 hours ago, njbchlover said:

I agree completely with your entire post, especially the last part.  Because, again, according to these ladies, LVP is a puppet master and whoever did leak the story is one of her marionettes.  (My opinion is that someone, or multiple someones, from the production team is always leaking ALL of the stories from all franchises.  And probably getting paid a decent amount for it!)

My money is also on production.  

Also, John Sessa showed a text from Lisa saying she wanted to shut it down. 

[langford peel]

We know that for all of his bullshit about loving LVP that Andy wants to cut her down to size. So he gleefully joined in the Lisa bashing and never really went into the underlying crime which was the puppy dumping. Satan Andy is nothing but transparent.

[ancslove]

10 minutes ago, RealHousewife said:

My money is also on production.  

Also, John Sessa showed a text from Lisa saying she wanted to shut it down. 

But doesn’t that text also show that Lisa knew what was going on?  

[Carolina Girl]

4 hours ago, njbchlover said:

Or, maybe, LVP was planning on bringing the results to the reunion, prior to her decision to not attend. 

That's what I thought as well.  And then when we recently learned Production asked that she retake the exam so they could film it, I believe that's precisely what she planned to do.  She'd have the first results ready to go in case the Coven said the second was staged.  It also might explain why there was a "friend" of Kyle's supposedly at the polygrapher's office - Production may very well have given her a head's up and she sent a stooge to report back to her.  

[Carolina Girl]

4 hours ago, njbchlover said:

My opinion is that someone, or multiple someones, from the production team is always leaking ALL of the stories from all franchises.

My money is still on Rinna.  I didn't watch, but learned here on the Boards that Rinna said the use of the phrase "poor creature" in the article was highly indicative of someone BRITISH being quoted.  But has was pointed out, those words don't APPEAR in the story.  Which would be "highly indicative" of someone using a phrase in an interview, expecting it to be included in the quote and then not being smart enough to check before commenting on it.  

Just spitballin' - but Rinna loves to cause trouble, and she knows ROL would never rat her out.  

[KungFuBunny]

18 hours ago, TexasGal said:

Camille doesn’t remember everything SHE said because the last few months have been very “dense”, but she remembers everything everyone else said.  Even if they didn’t actually say it.

Camille is so bitter she didn't get the Diamond or the Diamond Salary.

She'll say whatever she has to to get out of the hot seat..be it not remembering, having an imaginary memory, or the fail safe of crying about Scott or the house fire when option 1 and 2 don't work.

I still think she was under the impression that the only way she could get a diamond was to grab it from another HW. She chose to go after the newer HW's and thought they'd be easier targets (hence she chose Dorit, Teddi, and Denise)

[Carolina Girl]

3 hours ago, Rbonnie said:

I really do hope Nicolette Sheridan joins the cast next year.  Now that would be interesting! Imagine the interactions when not one, but two of the current cast member’s husbands used to be married to her!  That would be delicious for me to watch. And I bet Harry Hamlin would show up in a lot more scenes, and not go “camping” as much!  Denise comes off as though she wouldn’t even care, but who knows.  Anyway I would get a lot of pleasure out of watching Rinna’s head explode!

Now THAT would be a season I may just tune in for.  

[RealHousewife]

29 minutes ago, langford peel said:

We know that for all of his bullshit about loving LVP that Andy wants to cut her down to size. So he gleefully joined in the Lisa bashing and never really went into the underlying crime which was the puppy dumping. Satan Andy is nothing but transparent.

I think Andy loves LVP as a cast member. I don’t think he loves her like a BFF. 

I’m an Andy Cohen fan. I can’t help it. I love WWHL, think he’s talented, hilarious and fun. Do I think he’s a big softie? Not really. It takes someone a bit “shady” to do his job. 

Camille is not my favorite, but Andy was mean to compare her and Denise. There was plenty of tension between Camille and the others without going there. 

24 minutes ago, ancslove said:

But doesn’t that text also show that Lisa knew what was going on?  

I don’t think we’ll ever know the truth of exactly who knew what. I was certainly confused by LVP saying she didn’t know Teddi knew then of course she knew. That had me scratching my head. But the text John showed backs LVP saying she wanted to shut all this down. 

Edited July 31, 2019 by RealHousewife

[KungFuBunny]

18 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

I love after this Camille once again flip flops after telling the girls sorry and I love you basically to tweeting that they all were mean girls and everything was a set up and their all bitches. This woman can’t keep her faces straight 

When Camille first appeared on the franchise, she was still married to Kelsey - and all she did was brag about herself, what she had, how famous her husband was. One of the many brags was how she produced many shows and how she was a "writer".

Watching Camille on the reunion - I'm beginning to believe Camille wrote herself a script for the reunion. Camille can't act - she flubbed all of her lines or only remembered some of her lines - when she was stumped she started crying.

[nexxie]

3 hours ago, njbchlover said:

I may be a party of one, but I don't think Camille's tears were fake.  She was really crying (ugly cry, with hiccups and everything).  Whether the tears were from frustration, whatever little meltdown she may have been having, or actual sadness, I can't say, but to me, the tears/crying seemed genuine.

Camille believed her own poor-me story enough to blubber with the best of them - but she came in guns blazing and only defaulted to poor-me when they called her on her shit and all else failed. 

[TVFANNO1]

3 minutes ago, KungFuBunny said:

When Camille first appeared on the franchise, she was still married to Kelsey - and all she did was brag about herself, what she had, how famous her husband was. One of the many brags was how she produced many shows and how she was a "writer".

Watching Camille on the reunion - I'm beginning to believe Camille wrote herself a script for the reunion. Camille can't act - she flubbed all of her lines or only remembered some of her lines - when she was stumped she started crying.

Yes Camille was a right show off to start with in Season 1.    Do you think it was all an act then from her at the Reunion?  I thought she was gonna have a breakdown.

[langford peel]

1 minute ago, RealHousewife said:

I think Andy loves LVP as a cast member. I don’t think he loves her like a BFF. 

I’m an Andy Cohen fan. I can’t help it. I love WWHL, think he’s, talented, hilarious and fun. Do I think he’s a big softie? Not really. It takes someone a bit “shady” to do his job.

Satan Andy loves nothing and no one except himself. Witness his abandonment of his great good friend Carol Radziwill when she crossed his meal ticket Bethenny. Satan Andy is that rare animal that is both a weasel and a worm. There  is a reason why he was removed from his position as a decision maker and turned into a performer.

But by all means enjoy his performance. I personally always slow down when I pass an accident on the highway. You just can’t look away.

[KungFuBunny]

18 hours ago, Straycat80 said:

All in all I do like this group, after NYC, I won’t miss Lisa V. I wonder if they’ll bring Camille back, Andy seems to like her.  Now onto OC, which I don’t have a good feeling about. 

I think they'll bring Camille back as a "friend of" again. No need to give her a Diamond or a Diamond Salary when they can get what they need from her for less.

Here's to hoping the scene she is brought back in with is "drinks with Brandi"

Edited July 31, 2019 by KungFuBunny

[RealHousewife]

1 minute ago, KungFuBunny said:

I think they'll bring Camille back as a "friend of" again. No need to give her a Diamond or a Diamond Salary when they can get what they need from her for less.

Here's to hoping the scene she is brought back in with is "drinks with Brandi"

I did not enjoy Camille this year. She was too mean for my tastes, but I think she deserved housewife coins for creating drama and dealing with the subsequent consequences of her behavior. 

[KungFuBunny]

Evil Bunny thoughts...

When Andy opened Kyle's gift for LVP.. I was hoping to see a Bottle of Scope and a box of Altoids

[Juliegirlj]

Camille is clearly emotionally unstable. I’ve heard her new marriage is in trouble which surely added to her distress. I feel like somewhere Kelsey Grammer is having a good laugh. 

[nexxie]

20 minutes ago, Juliegirlj said:

Camille is clearly emotionally unstable. I’ve heard her new marriage is in trouble which surely added to her distress. I feel like somewhere Kelsey Grammer is having a good laugh. 

I wondered about her marriage - she didn’t seem all that into him imo.

[Lisin]

3 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

I dont remember why they hate each other

(re. Rinna and LVP) 

I think (and I may totally be missing something else) that there's 2 things at play (aside from the obvious just, jocking for position they all do) first, the Munchausen's thing, Rinna has implied and outright said that her discussing that on camera was at the behest of LVP. LVP denies this. Who's lying? Who knows/cares. That's where the animosity solidified. Then there's the Kim Richards of it all, back when Rinna started LVP was riding hard for Kim so she obviously was anti Rinna. Even when Kim wasn't talking to Kyle she was still talking to LVP. But, I think the bottom line is LVP thinks she's better than Rinna. She has always just seemed to me to think Rinna was "less than" and I'm not making a judgment one way or another on who is right or wrong in any of this, that's just my memory of where the Rinna/LVP frenemy status started. 

[byrd]

18 hours ago, LibertarianSlut said:

I'm just curious, because I don't remember this franchise chapter and verse, but was LVP called to the carpet any more than anyone else in season three?  Wasn't everyone sort of on LVP's side vs Kim?  And wasn't Lisa treated well at the season 5 reunion because she was a victim of Brandi's slap?  Even last season, I remember it as the women arguing who could be LIsa's friend, the worst thing being said about her being that she didn't get a lot of attention as a child...?  I agree that they have a habit of coming for her, but I don't recall it being every season.                                                                                                                     

I am not trying to be presumptuous at all, but the OP upvoted a long post I wrote on the Reunion part one, page six (though, judging by your screen name, I doubt it's going to reveal much to you).  I read every post that's here (lots of time at work!) and I don't remember discussion of LVP's treatment of employees last week.  I could be completely wrong and it could be something else though.

Are you saying LVP made her polygrapher available to public questioning, people asked questions and were satisfied with the results?  I didn't see that mentioned anywhere, but if that's the case, it definitely lends more credibility to her story.  I guess I'll withhold judgment until there is a definite 'yes' or 'no' there.

Yes but remember wasn't that season Brandi turned on Lisa with Kyle. Kyle and Mauricio was also out with Lisa because of some stupid comment Lisa made in front of Portia that was the season of the tabloid issue and rumors of Mauricio's infidelity . Brandi was already targeting Lisa and that reunion was also the same year that Yolanda turned on Lisa as well. At the reunion Brandi ,Yolanda and Kyle ganged up on her. Yolanda biggest grip was Ken touching her arm although she stopped speaking to Lisa  even before that  ( Yolanda was fighting with everyone because  David was divorcing her )  Sheesh ! Yes Kim treated LVP horribly and yes there was empathy as well as hatred.  It always is...

Edited August 1, 2019 by byrd

[byrd]

3 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

MMM no there are seasons shes in the fights but no not every season is someone fighting Lisa ..... shes not a martyr she has caused and been in fights with everyone herself no one has just looked at Lisa and said hey lets fight her.... she has made snippy comments and got pulled into fights she's not an angel .... some fans need to take her off that cross people need the wood 

Yes the show that is on Bravo ... thats why she doesn't want to piss Andy off to much she is HIS employee not the other way around she cant act anyway she wants and get away with it and im glad Andy is now starting to bite back with her.. again without bravo she wouldn't have any advertising and no one would care about any of her restaurants or bars and they wouldn't be as successful has they are now...

Maybe but he is also careful the same way he is with Nene Leaks. If Nene can get away with the crap she pulls , then Lisa has nothing to worry about.  He knows they are both fan favorites. Nene is not mine, but she is for Andy. IT WORKS BOTH WAYS ACTUALLY.. THE FAN FAVORITES BRING THE RATINGS without ratings you don't have a show. 

Edited July 31, 2019 by byrd

[langford peel]

They other ladies have always come after LVP every year because they perceived her as the favored child because of Vanderpump rules. Rinna hates her because LVP got a successful spinoff when she couldn’t get her two horrible demon spawn their own show. In fact Rinna said she deserved more money because they were “promoting” Vanderpump Dogs to set up another spin off. Rinna is full of seething envy and jealousy and that moron Kyle signed on for it and stabbed her so called best friend in the back to protect a puppy dumping grifter.

But then again moron Kyle always said LVP was like her sister so LVP was lucky to get out before Kyle stole her Goddam Villa Rosa!

Edited July 31, 2019 by langford peel

[KungFuBunny]

19 hours ago, njbchlover said:

It was curious and interesting to me that Erika was pretty silent throughout all three parts of the Reunion.  I wonder if she is over the show and really just doesn't care enough to comment.

Or, is it that she is feeling a little less confident and somewhat more humbled because of her and Mr. Girardi's personal financial issues?  

I did think she was probably the most level-headed one on the couches, and I liked her calming influence on Camille when she told Camille to stop yelling, that she sounds more plausible when she speaks normally.

I also thought that Erika's reunion look was the best of all the ladies, especially compared to Rinna's Gatorade yellow/green dress and Kyle's dress that looked like a yellow highlighter.

To me, it isn't that she is over the show or doesn't care enough to comment.

Erika has not changed - she is for the most part quiet - unless she's turned up Erika Jayne style to perform on stage.

To me, she is on the show to promote her own business ventures and wants to stay clear of the reality tv drama. She puts out enough/interacts enough to keep that Diamond and her Diamond salary.

[Lady of nod]

5 hours ago, byrd said:

Vanderpump Rules which is soley based on her restaurants. Lisa's not going anywhere and she has made a great name for her businesses,  personally I would love to see her have her own Home and Garden show, which I read that she is pursuing, ... I love house porn.

Yes! That is exactly what I want to see. Lisa's house,her gardens ,her pets, her parties and floral arrangements. And her charity work She has a fabulous life and that is infinitely more interesting to me than this vapid bunch of women who do nothing to make the world a better place for anyone. Shopping and telling each other how beautiful they are every time they meet is beyond boring. 

[BodhiGurl]

17 hours ago, Shannah Banana said:

LVP admits to taking the lie detector test two times.

Lisa Vanderpump ✔ @LisaVanderpump

Yes @Andy I passed lie detector we have the footage on iPhone and then when production heard of it they wanted to film it.
So it was scary in front of camera crew, but yes I passed it twice.

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I find myself very curious as to why she took it the first time? 

Seems to me that LVP should cut ties completely with RHOBH - why even bother commenting on stuff like this if she's "over it". Her fans don't need her to comment - her detractors don't either. She's not going to gain any sympathy via responding, that she didn't already have. But maybe she needs her fan base to respond just how awesome and right she is. And give me a break... "..it was scary in front of the camera crew" - Sure Jan. She'd do herself huge favors if she just shut it when it comes to all things RHOBH. She had her chance to do it as part of the show, on the reunion. But she didn't. Since she felt the need to skip the reunion - skip the additional commentary. I so won't miss her next season. 

[langford peel]

15 minutes ago, Lady of nod said:

Yes! That is exactly what I want to see. Lisa's house,her gardens ,her pets, her parties and floral arrangements. And her charity work She has a fabulous life and that is infinitely more interesting to me than this vapid bunch of women who do nothing to make the world a better place for anyone. Shopping and telling each other how beautiful they are every time they meet is beyond boring. 

You mean you don’t want to see Rinna at Home Shopping or Dorito’s latest phony photo shoot or Kyle clipping Mauricio’s toenails? Well add Teddi’s ministry of Manly Walks and that’s all you got. 

Enjoy!

[BluBrd47]

23 minutes ago, KungFuBunny said:

To me, it isn't that she is over the show or doesn't care enough to comment.

Erika has not changed - she is for the most part quiet - unless she's turned up Erika Jayne style to perform on stage.

To me, she is on the show to promote her own business ventures and wants to stay clear of the reality tv drama. She puts out enough/interacts enough to keep that Diamond and her Diamond salary.

I agree, because it looks less and less like old Tom is going to be able to pay for many more glam squads and concert tours to Akron and Wilkes-Barre....

[JennyMominFL]

10 minutes ago, langford peel said:

You mean you don’t want to see Rinna at Home Shopping or Dorito’s latest phony photo shoot or Kyle clipping Mauricio’s toenails? Well add Teddi’s ministry of Manly Walks and that’s all you got. 

Enjoy!

Except for Dorit, then yes i do. I would rather watch Rinna, Kyle and Teddi any day over LVP

[LibertarianSlut]

1 hour ago, Lisin said:

(re. Rinna and LVP) 

I think (and I may totally be missing something else) that there's 2 things at play (aside from the obvious just, jocking for position they all do) first, the Munchausen's thing, Rinna has implied and outright said that her discussing that on camera was at the behest of LVP. LVP denies this. Who's lying? Who knows/cares. That's where the animosity solidified. Then there's the Kim Richards of it all, back when Rinna started LVP was riding hard for Kim so she obviously was anti Rinna. Even when Kim wasn't talking to Kyle she was still talking to LVP. But, I think the bottom line is LVP thinks she's better than Rinna. She has always just seemed to me to think Rinna was "less than" and I'm not making a judgment one way or another on who is right or wrong in any of this, that's just my memory of where the Rinna/LVP frenemy status started. 

This post is so great.  It jarred my memory:  What kind of pompous ass asks another woman for the false eyelashes that she's currently wearing, and when the woman in question agrees to give them up, the weirdo actually takes them...you can't wear someone else's false eyelashes with glue and shit on them.  LVP took Rinna's eyelashes just to make sure Rinna knew she was the sub to VanderPump's dom.  This was long before I took a "side" but even then I thought it was so cray.

1 hour ago, byrd said:

Yes but remember wasn't that season Brandi turned on Lisa with Kyle. Kyle and Mauricio was also out with Lisa because of some stupid comment Lisa made in front of Portia that was the season of the tabloid issue and rumors of Mauricio's infidelity . Brandi was already targeting Lisa and that reunion was also the same year that Yolanda turned on Lisa as well. At the reunion Brandi ,Yolanda and Kyle turned on her. Yolanda biggest grip was Ken touching her arm although she stopped speaking to Lisa  even before that  ( Yolanda was fighting with everyone).. Sheesh ! Yes Kim treated her horribly and yes there was empathy as well as hatred.

Ah yes, season four.  That was a bad season for Lisa.  Agree to agree 🙂 

I can't believe how right @BodhiGurl was upthread about the polygraph being such a fail.  I'm just getting this straight now:  she faked a polygraph to show how truthful she is.  Got it.  Does she know Meghan King Edmonds, formerly of RHOC, who faked cancer to prove Brooks was faking cancer?

Goodbye Lisa!  I was really touching to see you spend $300k to renovate a kitchen where you had an argument.  Hopefully, if someone insults you in the hallway and you decide to put up an oil painting, we'll be able to access it on YouTube or something...if not, I'll grieve privately.

[langford peel]

6 minutes ago, Sarah Heart said:

 She is better than Rinna

Pond scum is better than Rinna.

Monkey feces is better than Rinna. 

Everything and everyone in the world is better than Rinna.

That’s what burns her liposuctioned ass with the fires of a million suns.

[gingerella]

Camille is full of shit. She's just a realllllly bad actress. Her fake ass crying was just that, fake. As Elaine Benis would say, "faaaaake, fake, Fake, FAKE!" It's so obvious to me that it's painful because this dumb broad thinks we would actually believe her. If her new husband isn't concerned about what he's seeing on this show with his new bride, then he's just as dumb and vacuous as she is.

DUHrit is a lucky fucking bitch, to manage to get away with Puppy Gate nearly scratch free (yeah, pun intended!).

Teddi is a boron - a boring moron.

Erika is just boritch - a boring bitch

Denise is just basic - comes across as all warm and crunchy but is so fucked up on something most of the time that she makes no sense, and when she's sober she comes off as being nasty (see: Camille, last night).

Rinna is a fucking bitch and a liar. "We weren't mean girls", yeah bitch you were mean girls and you were perhaps the meanest of the mean girls, always jumping on that anti-LVP bandwagon any time even the tiniest of chances presented itself. Fuck off and take your flippant attitude with you.

Vile Kyle - you are a disgusting pig of a human being. Your desperation to remain relevant on this show is so transparent I can see the shit piling up from your colon to your mouth, where you spew shit on the daily. You are nasty, a liar, mean spirited, and you use people to prop your low-self esteem basic bitch self up. You disgust me.

For me, there really are no redeeming cast members at this point. They need to fire everyone and start clean.

[LibertarianSlut]

41 minutes ago, Sarah Heart said:

She took one, it's on her phone,  Production got wind of it and wanted to tape it. She passed twice, should she give blood and her first born. 

I don't want none of Lisa's blood--she needs to be healthy so she doesn't pass out like she did on Dancing with the Stars!

And she should keep Pandora to herself--that spellbinding personality is all for her!

It's all good.  I do think we have reached agree to disagree, so I'm just going to state my point with more nuance than I have before, and I'm going to move on:

• The whole idea of proving one's innocence in planting an article in a tabloid on a reality show is absurd and a non-starter
• If you're going to do it anyway, do it under the correct conditions, release the results, and allow your polygrapher to be subject to questions
• As far as I'm concerned, there was one polygraph (at most)
• The "second test" was not passed because it was not a test.  The NFL doesn't get to tell us that the Super Bowl that was aired was actually played in January, but it was reenacted in February, and that is what we saw.  No dice.
• How do I account for the notion that LVP "passed" the second test?  Again, it wasn't a test.  (Erika might say, "that wasn't a polygraph; that was bullshit").  There was a point during the televised fake test that the "professional lie detector" told LVP, "The scoring program agrees with me.  It says that there is zero chance you are lying on any of the questions of importance."  That is quite literally one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard, and the statement is so sweepingly ignorant of polygraphy that I refuse to consider it or the polygrapher further.

On the upside, I gave myself a good little education on lie detection today at work.  It was more interesting than anything else going on!  

[Jel]

This has been Kyle for me this year:

At the start of the season, Kyle was mad at Lisa because she said:

Lisa tries to make me look like a bad friend! (lisa, scheming to make her look like a bad friend!)

Then, later that day it was: No fair how Dorit can "drop off a dog" a dog, but I don't show up at your restaurant and I'm the bad guy!

To

Zoinks, OBVIOUSLY Lisa LEAKED the story. Who would do such a terrible thing to a friend. OMG, the leaking of the story was so bad! It's all about this LEAK!

To,

OBVI it wasn't Lisa herself (duh!) who leaked the story but one of her minions, you dumb podunk viewers! She has complete control over them, dontcha know.  The idea that they could have their own motives or free will is absurd, and you're a fool not to realize that. Lisa has full control! (Go back to Magootsville!)

To,

The LEAK itself doesn't matter, it's the PATTERN OF BEHAVIOR, and Lisa has been accused of this kind of thing before!  It's NOT about THIS LEAK!  Cut to "pattern of behavior of Lisa and her infernal leaks!" to show scene of Adrienne accusing Lisa, while leaving out the later revelation that it was Bernie the chef who leaked it).

And yes! one prior and false accusation is a pattern, Magootites!

Plus also,

Intimidating Ken intimidated me in his home when I was accusing his wife of  things! (cut to scene of very non-plussed ("over it") looking Kyle as she is "intimidated" by Ken

And she reminds us that, no, we did not conspire against Lisa, I was just being honest about everything (cut to Lisa's blog where she describes seeing Dorit, Teddi and Kyle at the Polo Lounge immediately after the Villa Blanca scene. Cut to scene of Rinna with Kyle and Teddi talking about how this has Lisa written all over it, with Kyle and Teddi nodding in agreement. Cut to (and pick one of many) THs of Erika's suggesting or accusing or implying it was Lisa.

Cut to  Kyle telling us she knew about the WHOLE story because Teddi had shown her all the texts a while ago and told her everything. But Kyle didn't tell Lisa about that because of ...? She didn't say why she kept that from Lisa. But somehow, I'm sure it had something to do with her honesty.  Because, she like, Teddi, suffers for her honesty. Integrity!

Then Kyle decides, and rather suddenly, now that I am on the outs with Lisa, I'm going to make up with my arch nemesis, destroyer of my family, Brandi Glanville (and no, the timing of this makeup is not sketchy at all, you dumb trolls!)

And also Rinna is going to make up with her, too. And again, timing = not weird. 

The Lie detector test!  Lie detectors are good enough for professional police detectives, but not good enough for Kyle! They aren't valid or reliable. Unless Kyle or one of her "daughter's friend's family" has been robbed, then yeah, lie detectors all the way. For the police, not for Kyle because she somehow knows better.

[Miss Bones]

Haha Dorit stewing at the end, because she didn’t get the “I used to be BFF with LVP!!!” Montage, but Kyle did.  😂

And when Andy brought out the tequila shots, Denise was licking her chops like Sylvester looking at Tweety Bird!

Kyle *crying frog voice* “I’m sorry,  I’m crying right now!!! Can’t believe i can hardly talk right now!!! You know I have to do this at reunions!”  (I’m paraphrasing)

They do truly exhaust me, but I will be back next season.   I’d be lying if I said I wouldn’t be back.  I wish I had the strength to not, honestly.  

[Shellbell59]

On 7/29/2019 at 12:51 PM, RealHousewife said:

Kyle generally seems just fine without LVP, but I’m curious to see what causes her to tear up and say she “paid the ultimate price.”

Right?

i also wonder with all the Richards forgiveness and newfound allegiance ...how did sis Cathy end up at Vanderpump/Dodd house to hear them all laugh when Ken supposedly said

”GOODBYE CATHY” 

although now that’s I think back...I remember Mauricio going to a Hilton wedding...WITHOUT Kyle (she was disinvited) and perhaps a daughter? Not sure...who does that?

BUT WHAT AN EFFED UP FAMILY/SIBLING EXAMPLE!

[Dutchgirl]

23 hours ago, nexxie said:

Seems Camille has been saying whatever just to be on camera - look how that works; she’s monopolizing the whole reunion.

To be fair, there really wasn't anything else going on...we should thank her for filling the air time. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[ParadoxLost]

30 minutes ago, Shellbell59 said:

Right?

i also wonder with all the Richards forgiveness and newfound allegiance ...how did sis Cathy end up at Vanderpump/Dodd house to hear them all laugh when Ken supposedly said

”GOODBYE CATHY” 

although now that’s I think back...I remember Mauricio going to a Hilton wedding...WITHOUT Kyle (she was disinvited) and perhaps a daughter? Not sure...who does that?

BUT WHAT AN EFFED UP FAMILY/SIBLING EXAMPLE!

I think that wedding was the other way around.  Mauricio was not invited.

Kyle's argument that the Vanderpumps really thought the "GOODBYE KYLE" thing was funny because they were saying "GOODBYE CATHY" is not likely.

That's the kind of thing that is only a joke between Ken, LvP, and Cathy if they had been getting along famously all evening with the topic being their mutual dislike of Kyle.
 

[stcroix]

13 hours ago, WaltersHair said:

Bah bye LVP and psycho Camille.

As long as they don't try to pull Brandi back out off the Stripper Pole and on the show, I'll watch.

I like Kyle. There. I said it.

Rinna can get sucked in by a giant sinkhole in Florida

I like Kyle,too.  I think she's funny.  This season was boring for me until they went to France and I really enjoyed the shows from there.  I thought Kyle and Teddi were hilarious drunk and didn't mind Dorit, either.  Them doing the imitations of each other were spot on and I really enjoyed watching that.  Lisa Rinna is a waste of space for me because she's always 'on'.  I don't know who the real Lisa Rinna is.  Erica is scary and I'd never be friends with her because you'd never know exactly what to say or how she'd react.  She's not a girl's girl, that's for sure.  I think if they'd keep Kyle, Teddi, Dorit and Denise and jettison the rest of the cast and add some new women it would bring the show back.  Surely Kyle knows many, many quirky BH types that aren't Brandi or Faye or Kim.  Reboot the show with some new blood and keep those four!  🙂 

[Dutchgirl]

5 hours ago, Carolina Girl said:

My money is still on Rinna.  I didn't watch, but learned here on the Boards that Rinna said the use of the phrase "poor creature" in the article was highly indicative of someone BRITISH being quoted.  But has was pointed out, those words don't APPEAR in the story.  Which would be "highly indicative" of someone using a phrase in an interview, expecting it to be included in the quote and then not being smart enough to check before commenting on it.  

Just spitballin' - but Rinna loves to cause trouble, and she knows ROL would never rat her out.  

And Rinna does need the money...so it's likely.

[princelina]

5 hours ago, Lisin said:

(re. Rinna and LVP) 

I think (and I may totally be missing something else) that there's 2 things at play (aside from the obvious just, jocking for position they all do) first, the Munchausen's thing, Rinna has implied and outright said that her discussing that on camera was at the behest of LVP. LVP denies this. Who's lying? Who knows/cares. That's where the animosity solidified. Then there's the Kim Richards of it all, back when Rinna started LVP was riding hard for Kim so she obviously was anti Rinna. Even when Kim wasn't talking to Kyle she was still talking to LVP. But, I think the bottom line is LVP thinks she's better than Rinna. She has always just seemed to me to think Rinna was "less than" and I'm not making a judgment one way or another on who is right or wrong in any of this, that's just my memory of where the Rinna/LVP frenemy status started. 

I don't remember what started it but for a season or two LVP had to point out that she hated Rinna or wasn't talking to Rinna or something like that at every meeting they had.  Rinna would laugh and shriek, "You love me!" and LVP would insist that she did not with her "aren't I the cutest" smirk.  The finale to all of this was LVP insisting on Rinna's false eyelashes, as @LibertarianSlut pointed out, in return for Rinna supposedly being invited on her trip. Complete with a smarmy TH from LVP about it.  So I think Rinna's been holding a long grudge and just waiting her chance 😈

4 hours ago, Lady of nod said:

Yes! That is exactly what I want to see. Lisa's house,her gardens ,her pets, her parties and floral arrangements. And her charity work She has a fabulous life and that is infinitely more interesting to me than this vapid bunch of women who do nothing to make the world a better place for anyone. Shopping and telling each other how beautiful they are every time they meet is beyond boring. 

On a positive note - since LVP's departure, I've noticed a decrease in the stupid "double air kisses" we had to sit through from EVERY single one EVERY fucking time they get together 😄 

Edited August 1, 2019 by princelina

[AuntiePam]

7 hours ago, LibertarianSlut said:

I am not trying to be presumptuous at all, but the OP upvoted a long post I wrote on the Reunion part one, page six (though, judging by your screen name, I doubt it's going to reveal much to you).  I read every post that's here (lots of time at work!) and I don't remember discussion of LVP's treatment of employees last week.  I could be completely wrong and it could be something else though.

I'm the one who remembered reading someone saying that Lisa was berating/belittling her employees.  It may have been in a regular episode thread rather than the reunion -- I'm sorry but I can't say for sure.  It wasn't in a Vanderpump Rules thread, because I don't read those.  (I'm old, memory fails along with every other darn thing.)

Sorry I can't be more specific, but the gist was Lisa asking an employee if he was always such a pussy -- or something like that -- in front of the employee's spouse, maybe (?)  In any case, the belittling part stayed with me because I've worked with managers who used that tactic, and then wondered why you hit the door as soon as a better offer came along.

[UsernameFatigue]

15 hours ago, BodhiGurl said:

Seems to me that LVP should cut ties completely with RHOBH - why even bother commenting on stuff like this if she's "over it". Her fans don't need her to comment - her detractors don't either. She's not going to gain any sympathy via responding, that she didn't already have. But maybe she needs her fan base to respond just how awesome and right she is. And give me a break... "..it was scary in front of the camera crew" - Sure Jan. She'd do herself huge favors if she just shut it when it comes to all things RHOBH. She had her chance to do it as part of the show, on the reunion. But she didn't. Since she felt the need to skip the reunion - skip the additional commentary. I so won't miss her next season. 

Ya, the comment that taking the lie detector in front of the camera crew was scary was hilarious. This from the person who was a full time acting student from the age of nine. Maybe that is why LVP was a failed actress. Lol. 

They showed a scene that reminded me of one of the many reasons I am not an LVP fan. In the scene where she was horsing around and aiming the dryer at Kyle while the dog was being groomed, the dog was obviously upset as it did not know that Kyle was screeching in "fun". Did LVP notice or care that the dog was obviously stressed? Nope. Either didn't notice, or didn't care. F**k off, LVP. 

LVP is acting just like Carole Radziwill did when she (supposedly) left RHoNY of her own accord. For someone who keeps saying she doesn't care, LVP is acting just the opposite. I am sooo looking foward to an LVP free RHoBH next year, just as I did the Carole free RHoNY this year. Can't wait. 

Edited August 1, 2019 by UsernameFatigue

[smores]

On 7/30/2019 at 12:04 PM, RealHousewife said:

The funny thing is that she’s STILL being accused of putting words into their mouths. 😂 Per Brandi, LVP was in Camille’s ear. I know LVP has a high IQ and good about quietly stirring it up for the show. I’m not denying that, but these women make it sound she hypnotizes them. It’s like they’re under her spell until they suddenly realize they want no more. 

It's fascinating how they only manage to break the spell each year for the day of the reunion, then somehow fall right back under it when the cameras go up to film the next season.

On 7/30/2019 at 8:53 PM, sunshine23 said:

6. How do we know anything Kyle, or any of these women is true. We don't know if Kathy really went to LVP's or not or what was said. Kyle likes making fun of Ken. Always has. Always will.

Funny how Kyle isn't all mad at Kathy for talking to LVP but yet all of the women are pissed at Camille for being friends with LVP.  Seems like Kyle would expect her sister to be loyal to her and not socialize with LVP, if LVP tossed Kyle out of her house, right?

On 7/30/2019 at 9:32 PM, ParadoxLost said:

I'm kind of dumbfounded that these women are so cold blooded that Camille can literally sit there crying for most of the hour and they have zero empathy.  Its like when they were pretending to give a shit about the fires back home while on their France trip. Except no one but Erika and Rinna is pretending to give a shit.

They all sat there exclaiming about how they had sooo much empathy for LVP about her brother's death and yet they are the same group that was gleefully planning a takedown of Camille in France.  Her assistant had died, her house was burning down and they were only upset they couldn't go through with it because she wasn't coming to France.  They postponed it, they didn't cancel it.  But they are all empathetic!

On 7/30/2019 at 9:36 PM, Escapereality said:

Color me confused.  Denise says “well none of us believe Lisa called Radar online”.  Then what the hell are they mad about?  So what if a worker from her store called because they were pissed about Dorit puppy dumping.  This whole storyline was bizarre and Dorit is shady AF.  Camille may have issues but she has good instincts with that one. 

That's funny, because I seem to remember them all sitting around a table agreeing that it HAD to be LVP who leaked the story because it used the word "nipped" and only someone who was British uses that word.  It seems to me that since that version fell apart, they have moved on to another one.

Incidentally, I also think it's interesting that they suddenly think the owner of ROL is just lying to cover LVP.  I'd be willing to bet that if they'd come out and said that Kyle leaked the story, they'd also just be lying for LVP.  Everyone in the world just falls under LVP's spell.

On 7/30/2019 at 9:36 PM, njbchlover said:

It was curious and interesting to me that Erika was pretty silent throughout all three parts of the Reunion.  I wonder if she is over the show and really just doesn't care enough to comment.

There were a couple moments that it looked like she kind of was re-thinking the whole strategy and was like "WTF is even happening here?" When she told Denise to stop was one and I think she was a bit taken aback at the way they kept talking shit about Camille when she was off stage.  

On 7/30/2019 at 10:05 PM, ParadoxLost said:

Kyle is coming across extremely aware of twitter.  Everyone that takes issue with her is a troll.  And everything that Camille says that Kyle disagrees with is trying to gain people that like her.

It really is telling that Kyle is all "haters say this" "trolls did that" and gleefully recounts how she was horrible with the "Goodbye Kyle!" shit, but wasn't actually being a mean girl, she was "reclaiming something the haters did" because she wasn't going to sit back and take it! But then if Camille said something, well, she was just running to twitter and using that to bully them!

On 7/30/2019 at 10:09 PM, Beachdreamer said:

That was uncomfortable to watch.  Camille has been unlikable this season and particularly during the reunion, but it still felt - I don't know, just really uncomfortable- to watch the other ladies with her and really to watch Andy with her.  For me, it was a situation where Camille herself was already unlikeable, but anyone picking at her crying carcass made me feel annoyed with them, too.  Like- enough already.  She doesn't even get the paycheck or a diamond for doing this. Christ, she doesn't even get a tequila shot out of it.

Camille had a rough season, she said a lot of things I wasn't a fan of, but I also think she's right when she says that the other women did the same things and they were ganging up on her.  The only things that I really fault her for is the LVP teeth comments and the comments about Denise's house.  Even when it comes to the fight with Dorit, while I wish she hadn't been quite as explicit, I think the girls were planning a gang up on her, they tried to execute it, and she did try to avoid saying anything until Dorit pushed it.  And it's not like the issues aren't public anyway.  

Also I think the women were pretty heartless when it came to not considering the position Camille was in, with her mother's health, her house and the loss of her assistant.  They wanted to be able to hammer her on whatever they felt like, wanted her to gang up on LVP, and yet still wanted her to keep their secrets.  That's just not reasonable.  At the end of the day, Camille should be able to have 2 separate thoughts, that she is friends with LVP but maybe doesn't agree with everything she does.  Just because the others can't do it doesn't mean Camille has to go along with them. 

22 hours ago, Shannah Banana said:

LVP admits to taking the lie detector test two times.

(I snipped for length)

I find myself very curious as to why she took it the first time? 

I think she did it initially for herself and then production found out and wanted it for the show.  So it was repeated so it could be on camera.  

Here is the weird thing for me.  Kyle is all "They aren't reliable!" But then when her house was robbed, all of her staff had to have them done.  Andy asks why, if they aren't reliable and she doesn't trust them.  Oh, the police made them do it.  Really? But your friend, whose child saw LVP there, was the person making his people go.  And if it's not admissible in court, do the police make people do them?  It really just seems like a convenient story Kyle is telling there. 

14 hours ago, filmfan2480 said:

Kyle could and should have walked over.  She's known Camille the longest.  They had a rough past and found a way all these years.  And she could have said a quick: "Hey, we may not have seen eye to eye this year and I think you said some truly bad things for reasons I can't quite comprehend, but I do care about you and see that you're hurting, and hopefully we all can move on if we're ALL willing to own our parts".

They all could have said something like that and everyone could have healed a bit and/or moved on.

But I think Kyle was scared to show empathy to Camille because bulldog Teddi would've chastised her if she did.  

Not only could Kyle not be bothered to show empathy, she talked shit about her pretty much up until she got to the couch when she came back.  But, as soon as Camille was back in earshoot, Kyle shut right back up.  She is so two faced.  

Teddi and Denise spent the whole segment making nasty faces at Camille, then when it was over, Kyle goes and hugs Camille and Teddi nearly exploded.

11 hours ago, tranquilidade said:

She didn't tell any truth- what truth did she tell?  Honestly, I think she went to see Lisa out of fear that she was filmed trashing her and Lisa was going to see it.  However, she didn't have a clear purpose.  What could she accomplish with that visit?   What did she envision would happen?  All she did was demand a confession.  Who the hell does that? 

She said exactly that.  She was worried LVP would see the film of them talking and then get mad about it, so she wanted to go and try to pre-empt things, thinking she could spin it and get out in front of it.  Poor Kyle, she had to go tell the truth and it was sooo hard for her.  Only she forgets that she doesn't get to arbitrarily decide what the truth is. 

[tranquilidade]

8 hours ago, smores said:

She said exactly that.  She was worried LVP would see the film of them talking and then get mad about it, so she wanted to go and try to pre-empt things, thinking she could spin it and get out in front of it.  Poor Kyle, she had to go tell the truth and it was sooo hard for her.  Only she forgets that she doesn't get to arbitrarily decide what the truth is. 

Ah, so the truth that Kyle claims she was telling was her admission to turning on LVP with the popular opinion of the group and for the mere admission of her actions she felt LVP should see her as a friend, embrace her and thank her, love her and then admit to everything to make Kyle right.  Kyle thought she could ride the fence and LVP put an end to it.  It was long over due if you ask me and I'm glad it all ended the way it did.  

The latest  texts by Sessa prove everything.  Kyle wanted Dorit out and turned on Lisa when she wouldn't cooperate.

[byrd]

14 hours ago, Lady of nod said:

Yes! That is exactly what I want to see. Lisa's house,her gardens ,her pets, her parties and floral arrangements. And her charity work She has a fabulous life and that is infinitely more interesting to me than this vapid bunch of women who do nothing to make the world a better place for anyone. Shopping and telling each other how beautiful they are every time they meet is beyond boring. 

From what I understand it's a platform for decorating ,. exploring her own line for china , linen , flowers arrangements and furniture design over all decorating ideas. I really hope it works because this is what I want to see.  

Edited August 1, 2019 by byrd

[byrd]

13 hours ago, Sarah Heart said:

She took one, it's on her phone,  Production got wind of it and wanted to tape it. She passed twice, should she give blood and her first born. This has PK and Dorit's mucky fingers all over ROL story. 

She is better than Rinna

Yessss!! love it !!

[byrd]

43 minutes ago, Sarah Heart said:

LVP could take her shows elsewhere, so I don't think she needs Bravo. They need her.

Bravo is not the only source for advertising for her businesses,  this has been stated so much in this forum . There are hundreds of successful restaurants that have nothing to do with BRAVO ?

They don't watch the show and has managed to be quite be successful without their endorsements.. Sheesh !!! 

[IKnowRight]

9 hours ago, smores said:

They all sat there exclaiming about how they had sooo much empathy for LVP about her brother's death and yet they are the same group that was gleefully planning a takedown of Camille in France.  Her assistant had died, her house was burning down and they were only upset they couldn't go through with it because she wasn't coming to France.  They postponed it, they didn't cancel it.  But they are all empathetic!

Glad you reminded me of this because I don’t recall this coming up at the reunion.  They should have shown the clip of Teddi saying they postponed the “talk” or confrontation with Camille.  How kind of them.  🙄  They clearly were planning to address/hold court in order for Camille to atone for her sins.  They had to postpone because of a death and a house burning down getting in the way...dang it, I hate it when that happens, therefore they would look heartless and we can’t have that!  Basically Camille was guilty of not buying into groupthink.

When Andy was trying to convince Camille it was not a set up, that clip would have supported her point of view but then they wouldn’t be able to gaslight her!

Unrelated, but with Rinna v LVP, Rinna is the one who brought up Munchausen, she discussed it with her hairdresser first, then Kyle. Then they talked about it with LVP and Rinna accused LVP of getting her to bring it up to Yolanda.  As if Rinna, the sweet, quiet, non confrontational, demure cherub she is wouldn’t be able to stir the pot all by herself.  I think she never liked LVP, because she was a fan favorite OG, didn’t like she was getting a much bigger share of the big bucks, and the spin offs while Rinna was stuck as part of the ensemble of wives.  

Also...Rinna was mad that Andy didn’t bring her on the show season 1, she auditioned but Andy wanted people like LVP that weren’t obvious actors. (He since changed his mind, thus Eileen, Denise, Rinna) At that time, the Hamlins were in a financial bind.  Thus, IMO, the initial source of resentment.

Edited August 1, 2019 by IKnowRight
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[byrd]

16 hours ago, TVFANNO1 said:

Yes Camille was a right show off to start with in Season 1.    Do you think it was all an act then from her at the Reunion?  I thought she was gonna have a breakdown.

I don't believe it was all an act, she is clearly going through something, I think it deeper than losing her home and friend, however that is enough to send you over the edge.