S09.E15: One Wedding And A Polygraph

[langford peel]

26 minutes ago, 88 keys said:

Laughable is thinking she hasn't already been vindicated.

No, this wasn't done so much for verification but more as nice pointy Louboutin up the arses of the lying bitches who thought they'd get her to acquiesce. Nicely done, LVP! 

LVP has been vindicated by the overwhelming support of the fans and the scorn visited on the rest of these worthless bitches.

The test is as you say a middle finger to the sanctimonious judgemental pyramid scheme running scam artists.

LVP will be able to use her leverage with h the E Channel to bend  Bravo into a pretzel.

Edited May 24, 2019 by langford peel

[SunnyBeBe]

1 hour ago, Rubyslippahz said:

As a person of the lawyerly persuasion, really I all could think when Kyle whipped out that far-fetched story of someone seeing Lisa at the polygraph place was.... I hope those "construction guys" going through an inquisition because blah blah blah's house was burglarized have attorneys or at least know their rights! WTF.

Yeah, because, most people who get private polygraphs do it private, because, if they fail, you don't want it to get out.  If you fail, it stays secret and if you pass, you are proud of it. lol  That story from Kyle was HORRIFICALLY fake. 

[Stats Queen]

12 minutes ago, UsernameFatigue said:

If LVP wanted to be taken seriously regarding her polygraph, she should have had it done by a reputable polygraph detector. If you google John Grogan, you will come up with some pretty interesting information. The guy is shady AF. Not a surprise, mind you. 

LVPs fans will believe her no matter what, and those that aren't fans won't. However for those who are willing to give her the benefit of the doubt, she has done herself no favours. But then I am in the camp that believes that LVP treats most people like they are inferior to her, including those who watch the show. The fact that she would hire this charlatan and think that viewers will believe it is all legit (because she is the one doing it) is why I will never be a LVP fan. She is as shady as Grogan. 

Yes, he is shady AF - this article is fascinating.

http://www.polygraphplace.com/articles/issue142.htm

Part of the article 

Let's start at the beginning. John Grogan was a private investigator for many years. As I've already shown in my original article, he cheated the public out of their money, lied to and manipulated that profession until he was finally outed and his PI license was revoked in October 2002.

Only a few months later, he began teaching part of a Private Investigator Course at the American College of Forensic Studies in California. As a trade for his teaching services, he asked to sit in on the 124 hour introduction to polygraph (Never intended to be a complete Polygraph Training Program which would require at least 400 hours by APA standards). John attended this course and instantly proclaimed himself to be a 'certified' polygraph examiner

another part

How does he get away with it?

Its a combination of two things. One, the lack of state licensing in California over Polygraph leaving no legal recourse to take action against him. Two, John is a master manipulator. One person I spoke to from his past stated that "John knows very well how to baffle you with bullshit".

As a side note: I am an industrial/Organizational psychologist and polygraphs and private organizations are not allowed to use them as part of the employee screening/employee selection with some rare exceptions.

The Employee Polygraph Protection Act of 1988 (EPPA) is a United States federal law that generally prevents employers from using polygraph (lie detector) tests, either for pre-employment screening or during the course of employment, with certain exemptions.

[walnutqueen]

34 minutes ago, UsernameFatigue said:

If LVP wanted to be taken seriously regarding her polygraph, she should have had it done by a reputable polygraph detector.

Is there really such a thing?

Because junk science = junk science (or, as Jessie Pinkman would say, "SCIENCE, BITCH!).

[eleanorofaquitaine]

Kyle's story was ridiculous, given the fact that it was pretty obvious that production who told her about it. But God love her for trying to sell it.

[KungFuBunny]

1 hour ago, UsernameFatigue said:

If LVP wanted to be taken seriously regarding her polygraph, she should have had it done by a reputable polygraph detector. If you google John Grogan, you will come up with some pretty interesting information. The guy is shady AF. Not a surprise, mind you. 

LVPs fans will believe her no matter what, and those that aren't fans won't. However for those who are willing to give her the benefit of the doubt, she has done herself no favours. But then I am in the camp that believes that LVP treats most people like they are inferior to her, including those who watch the show. The fact that she would hire this charlatan and think that viewers will believe it is all legit (because she is the one doing it) is why I will never be a LVP fan. She is as shady as Grogan. 

1 hour ago, Stats Queen said:

Yes, he is shady AF - this article is fascinating.

http://www.polygraphplace.com/articles/issue142.htm

Part of the article 

Let's start at the beginning. John Grogan was a private investigator for many years. As I've already shown in my original article, he cheated the public out of their money, lied to and manipulated that profession until he was finally outed and his PI license was revoked in October 2002.

Only a few months later, he began teaching part of a Private Investigator Course at the American College of Forensic Studies in California. As a trade for his teaching services, he asked to sit in on the 124 hour introduction to polygraph (Never intended to be a complete Polygraph Training Program which would require at least 400 hours by APA standards). John attended this course and instantly proclaimed himself to be a 'certified' polygraph examiner

another part

How does he get away with it?

Its a combination of two things. One, the lack of state licensing in California over Polygraph leaving no legal recourse to take action against him. Two, John is a master manipulator. One person I spoke to from his past stated that "John knows very well how to baffle you with bullshit".

As a side note: I am an industrial/Organizational psychologist and polygraphs and private organizations are not allowed to use them as part of the employee screening/employee selection with some rare exceptions.

The Employee Polygraph Protection Act of 1988 (EPPA) is a United States federal law that generally prevents employers from using polygraph (lie detector) tests, either for pre-employment screening or during the course of employment, with certain exemptions.

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[langford peel]

1 hour ago, UsernameFatigue said:

If LVP wanted to be taken seriously regarding her polygraph, she should have had it done by a reputable polygraph detector. If you google John Grogan, you will come up with some pretty interesting information. The guy is shady AF. Not a surprise, mind you. 

This guy may be as shady AF. He might be the shadiest guy who ever threw shade. He could be shadier than a used car salesmen selling condos underwater. But he would still be miles and miles more reputable than a grifter like Dorito or a sleazy pyramid scheme scum bucket like Teddi. 

[IDreamofJoaquin]

Lisa's lie detector was a shit show. She put in her nasty comments and then had to include questions that show "poor me" when asked if she could ever trust the group again.  She is so manipulative and now it is out of control. I'm glad Rinna brought up the Yolanda illness thing, I had forgotten about that. Another thing Lisa stirred shit up with. She evens fucks over the Toms on VPR.  

[Higgins]

On ‎5‎/‎22‎/‎2019 at 11:30 AM, islandgal140 said:

I'm sure we didn't see the entire test, but where he lost me was when he stated that lie detectors were 100% accurate and totally prove she was telling the truth? Pregnancy tests and condoms aren't even 100% accurate but a lie detector test is? Girl bye. 

LVP overplayed her hand with this stunt. 

Camille was bringing the real estate porn and the scenic views. Her Hawaii home is stunning. STUNNING! I wanted to see more of it. The wedding ... STUNNING! 

I didn't love her dress though. Maybe if it was a different lace but it just looked too heavy. 

I think that was the most basic hotel the BH wives have ever stayed in. Great views and grounds but on the inside it was a typical Marriott - not that there is anything wrong with that. 

Apart from the lie detector mess, I enjoyed this episode. 

Camille's dress looks as if it was created with plastic soda can rings as lace.

[Higgins]

On ‎5‎/‎22‎/‎2019 at 1:58 PM, langford peel said:

I notice that all the angsts from the worthless bitches was about LVP and how she has to put aside all the insults and attacks and she has to “show up” to be the butt of their unending perversion of the truth where a puppy dumper is the victim. Meanwhile Erika and Denise don’t show and it is not even really mentioned.

As far as the tucking joke went Lisa should have known better.  I am sure she has had many biting and hilarious bitch out sessions with her gay friends where such a comment would be normal and no big deal. But in the real world there are too many snowflakes who get offended by any joke or comment that does not match with their politically correct sensibilities so that they have to deplatform and destroy anyone who makes a joke. You can’t do that anymore. Lenny Bruce, George Carlin and Richard Pryor would have been destroyed in the current climate. Lisa should have know that all the support and good things she does for the LBGT community means nothing. Don’t make jokes in public. Save it for the bar.

George Carlin would say "fuck off and toughen up.

[SunnyBeBe]

Something tells me that LVP nor her associate prepared the questions or picked the examiner. It sounded like it was on a Bravo production member's level.   It appeared that LVP was kind of laughing about it. 

[Happy Camper]

I want Kyle to take a lie detector test at the reunion. I want someone to ask her about how she really found out about LVP's lie detector test. 

When she fails, I want Camille to shout "You're such a fucking liar, Kyle!"

[SunnyBeBe]

12 minutes ago, Happy Camper said:

I want Kyle to take a lie detector test at the reunion. I want someone to ask her about how she really found out about LVP's lie detector test. 

When she fails, I want Camille to shout "You're such a fucking liar, Kyle!"

Yes, they should whip out that polygraph and ask quite a few questions. But, I don't think that Camille could pass one either! lol 

Oh, I forgot to add earlier that it is customary for the examiner to tell the person taking the polygraph exactly what they will be asked.  It's not a surprise kind of thing.  That's normal.

[chenoa333]

On 5/22/2019 at 7:46 AM, Gem 10 said:

I can’t believe her telling the world about that prostate thingamajig she did with Kelsey.  She’s a real classy one, that Camille.  NOT !!!!!!!

Does Camille have long, fake fingernails? Just sayin' 😁

[SunnyBeBe]

4 minutes ago, chenoa333 said:

Does Camille have long, fake fingernails? Just sayin' 😁

IDK......I actually don't believe much, if anything, that Camille says.  I now doubt a lot about this woman. 

[Mindthinkr]

I just completed reading all 10 pages of what y’all have written. Wow. 

I’m more entertained by reading all of your comments than the actual show. 

Remember that Bravo needs us (the viewers). Hopefully they will read some of what we are saying and shape up that ship. 

[chenoa333]

4 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:

IDK......I actually don't believe much, if anything, that Camille says.  I now doubt a lot about this woman. 

I USED to be ok with Camille when she first came on the show. Then I felt sad for her being publicly humiliated by her husband dumping her for another woman.

Now I wonder if Camille actually WAS at least, somewhat aware of her husband's cheating. Then the cunning, manipulating part of Camille figured out how to gain lots of sympathy for herself by saying it's all Kelseys fault. And she had a public platform/Bravo to document her "poor me" divorce. 

And why is she having Bravo film her 2nd (?) marriage? She's rich, just do a private ceremony. I smell "attention whore".

Edited May 25, 2019 by chenoa333

[MVFrostsMyPie]

On 5/21/2019 at 7:10 PM, bravofan27 said:

Kyle has really aged this season. I think Kyle is beautiful but she's starting to act grandma-ish.

Is it grandma-ish to give drunken lapdances to one's husband in front of others?

[princelina]

12 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:

Something tells me that LVP nor her associate prepared the questions or picked the examiner. It sounded like it was on a Bravo production member's level.   It appeared that LVP was kind of laughing about it. 

I thought she admitted writing them herself - when the question about Dorit's facial surgery was asked, she British-humorously said, "Oh yes, I had to put that one in there" 😄 

[ButterQueen]

1 hour ago, MVFrostsMyPie said:

Is it grandma-ish to give drunken lapdances to one's husband in front of others?

I hate that grandma purple snakeskin ensemble in her TH.  We either get Grandma Kyle or Morticia.  😝😂

[SunnyBeBe]

12 hours ago, MVFrostsMyPie said:

Is it grandma-ish to give drunken lapdances to one's husband in front of others?

Lately when I watch RHOBH, I get this song in my head and can't get it out....it goes like this, "Money Can't Buy You Claaaaaass.....lol.   

Edited May 26, 2019 by SunnyBeBe

[SunnyBeBe]

12 hours ago, princelina said:

I thought she admitted writing them herself - when the question about Dorit's facial surgery was asked, she British-humorously said, "Oh yes, I had to put that one in there" 😄 

Yeah, but, to me, that's a cheeky thing that was part of the storyline.  To me, when something is that setup, it's the producer's idea.  It wasn't a serious attempt at the polygraph, imo.  Certainly, not someone that LVP or her associates would really have used.  But, for drama purposes on a nutty show, it's perfect.  lol 

Edited May 26, 2019 by SunnyBeBe

[princelina]

2 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:

Yeah, but, to me, that's a cheeky thing that was part of the storyline.  To me, when something is that setup, it's the producer's idea.  It wasn't a serious attempt at the polygraph, imo.  Certainly, not someone that LVP or her associates would really have used.  But, for drama purposes on a nutty show, it's perfect.  lol 

Yeah I totally agree that it was all set up - but the questions and the bitchy remarks came from LVP and she's pleased and proud to take credit for them.

[gritz]

Rinna's mindset upon seeing the cheese wheel pasta...

On 5/22/2019 at 9:30 AM, Juliegirlj said:

Edwin, Teddi, and Maurice were so stoned at that dinner. 😂

Kyle was pretty glassy-eyed herself, so she probably partook, too. Not that she'd ever admit it.

Maybe there's already a boy Umansky somewhere out there. Given a child has shared his bed for the whole duration of his marriage, I don't believe for a second that Maurice hasn't stepped out once or a hundred times.

On 5/22/2019 at 2:45 PM, LibertarianSlut said:

But is it appropriate to sit a sex worker whom your ex-husband is actively employing to your Thanksgiving dinner, and not having boundaries for your daughters?

Well, if the long-standing rumor about Denise is true, then maybe she thought it best not to be hypocritical.

Was Camille "Two Fingers" Grammer's son even at the wedding? 

On 5/25/2019 at 2:54 PM, chenoa333 said:

Now I wonder if Camille actually WAS at least, somewhat aware of her husband's cheating.

I think she knew, and that's why she had no qualms about hanging all over that married "friend" of hers during S1.

Erika's absence showed how useless she is to the show (minus offering up her colon for Rinna to take up residence).

[breezy424]

This polygraph thing is such a joke:

LVP says:  "Well, I think you actually have to formulate the question because the guy doing the test doesn't watch Real Housewives or didn't know what the hell we were talking about," Lisa said. "And he probably thought when he normally works for the FBI and the police force that it was gonna be something a little bit [more] interesting than, 'Did you give a story to Radar Online?'"

https://www.bravotv.com/the-daily-dish/lisa-vanderpump-lie-detector-test-who-wrote-questions

John Grogan (who did the polygraph)  doesn't work for the FBI.  The FBI has their own polygraphers and you have to be an FBI agent to become one.  And go through rigorous training to be qualified as one at their special facilities.  This guy runs a game using an association that he created.  I highly doubt that he works with law enforcement either (the police force?).  LA police have their own unit (http://www.lapdonline.org/FORENSICSCIENCEANDTECHNICALDIVISION/content_basic_view/6409).  I guess she got her info from Sessa the wanta be.

LVP needs to shut up because she's just making herself look worse and stop listening to 'Dr' Sessa.

[UsernameFatigue]

10 hours ago, Shannah Banana said:

LVP is more than happy to facilitate these falsehoods, it suits her current narrative.  Sessa is her current punk-in-waiting.   John Grogan is a total charlatan, shyster, slimeball, and will probably get a boost in sales thanks to LVP's wonderful endorsement of him. 

Sessa is just a Giggy without the fancy clothes. 

LVP is either really stupid enough to believe what she says about Grogan (regarding working for the FBI or police force - lol) or thinks the viewers are stupid enough to believe it because it is coming from her. Either way not a good look. If I ever had reason to take a lie detector test, you better believe that I would research who was going to administer the test.  LVP is as much of charlatan as Grogan is. 

Edited May 27, 2019 by UsernameFatigue

[FozzyBear]

On 5/22/2019 at 4:42 PM, ChitChat said:

Camille bugged me on WWHL last night.  She went on and on about her wedding and how LVP should've been there.  Tracy Pollan nicely told her that LVP was trying to spare them all the inevitable drama that her being there would've caused, and Camille agreed, but then started up again about how she should've been there no matter what.  Sheesh.  I used to like Camille, but a little bit of her goes a long way with me.  She can't decide which side of the fence she wants to be on.  

She did the same thing on the show. She started by telling the ladies that LVP didn’t want to overrun her big day with drama. When she got shot down she changed her tune to LVP should have come anyway. I’m on the fence. If it was just the wedding, I would probably go. But it’s a destination trip to Hawaii. You’re sort of stuck for days with a group of people that hate you. I’m not sure I would do that. I can definitely see Teddi or Kyle deciding to “hold LVP accountable” the whole damn time. I mean she wasn’t even there and they used her to cause drama. 

On another note, I really don’t think I can listen to Kyle complain about being fat one more time. Body issues are hard, but Jesus. Pull yourself together. You are a 50 year old woman with a rocking body. Shut up and eat a meal without commentary already! I can only imagine the relationship her daughters have with food. Have they ever had a meal without hearing their mother complain about carbs? It’s really irritating.

[RealHousewife]

4 minutes ago, FozzyBear said:

She did the same thing on the show. She started by telling the ladies that LVP didn’t want to overrun her big day with drama. When she got shot down she changed her tune to LVP should have come anyway. I’m on the fence. If it was just the wedding, I would probably go. But it’s a destination trip to Hawaii. You’re sort of stuck for days with a group of people that hate you. I’m not sure I would do that. I can definitely see Teddi or Kyle deciding to “hold LVP accountable” the whole damn time. I mean she wasn’t even there and they used her to cause drama. 

On another note, I really don’t think I can listen to Kyle complain about being fat one more time. Body issues are hard, but Jesus. Pull yourself together. You are a 50 year old woman with a rocking body. Shut up and eat a meal without commentary already! I can only imagine the relationship her daughters have with food. Have they ever had a meal without hearing their mother complain about carbs? It’s really irritating.

Camille is the definition of wishy-washy. Maybe it's because she's a people pleaser. 

I don't blame LVP for not attending due to exactly what you said.

I too wish Kyle would give herself more credit regarding her figure, but all women have insecurities. Most 50-year-old women would kill to look like Kyle. Her face, hair, skin, and yes, body too.  

[SweetieDarling]

1 hour ago, RealHousewife said:

Camille is the definition of wishy-washy. Maybe it's because she's a people pleaser. 

I don't blame LVP for not attending due to exactly what you said.

I too wish Kyle would give herself more credit regarding her figure, but all women have insecurities. Most 50-year-old women would kill to look like Kyle. Her face, hair, skin, and yes, body too.  

..but not her teeth 😁

[langford peel]

1 hour ago, FozzyBear said:

She did the same thing on the show. She started by telling the ladies that LVP didn’t want to overrun her big day with drama. When she got shot down she changed her tune to LVP should have come anyway. I’m on the fence. If it was just the wedding, I would probably go. But it’s a destination trip to Hawaii. You’re sort of stuck for days with a group of people that hate you. I’m not sure I would do that. I can definitely see Teddi or Kyle deciding to “hold LVP accountable” the whole damn time. I mean she wasn’t even there and they used her to cause drama. 

This precisely the reason why Lisa should not attend the reunion. It would be a complete and total bash Lisa fest. Not one of these worthless bitches have enough self awareness to admit that they might be wrong. That some employee of Vanderpump Dogs or production assistant might have sold the story. You know someone who needed the money and would say anything to get a payoff from the tabloid. So Lisa should simply C you next Tuesday and go on with her full and satisfying life.

Lisa has started filming “Vanderpump Rules” with a huge event at her Restaurant benefiting her dog charity. Meanwhile there are rumors that Teddi and Rinna will be dropped next year. Can Dorit and Erika be far behind.

[howiveaddict]

22 hours ago, breezy424 said:

This polygraph thing is such a joke:

LVP says:  "Well, I think you actually have to formulate the question because the guy doing the test doesn't watch Real Housewives or didn't know what the hell we were talking about," Lisa said. "And he probably thought when he normally works for the FBI and the police force that it was gonna be something a little bit [more] interesting than, 'Did you give a story to Radar Online?'"

https://www.bravotv.com/the-daily-dish/lisa-vanderpump-lie-detector-test-who-wrote-questions

John Grogan (who did the polygraph)  doesn't work for the FBI.  The FBI has their own polygraphers and you have to be an FBI agent to become one.  And go through rigorous training to be qualified as one at their special facilities.  This guy runs a game using an association that he created.  I highly doubt that he works with law enforcement either (the police force?).  LA police have their own unit (http://www.lapdonline.org/FORENSICSCIENCEANDTECHNICALDIVISION/content_basic_view/6409).  I guess she got her info from Sessa the wanta be.

LVP needs to shut up because she's just making herself look worse and stop listening to 'Dr' Sessa.

So what John Grogan doesn't work for police or FBI.  That's proof she was lying.  Maybe production or John Cessa told her Grogan did.  

[chenoa333]

On 5/21/2019 at 6:45 PM, Duke2801 said:

Yeah these ladies really don’t have much to offer when they don’t have VDP to kick around/bitch about. 

These "ladies" just don't have much to offer AT ALL. With or withour LVP.

And I will DEFINITELY not be watching next weeks episode with that old, haggard, worthless, wrinkled, lying piece of crap, Kim Richards. 

Edited May 28, 2019 by chenoa333

[AnnA]

5 minutes ago, chenoa333 said:

These "ladies" just don't have much to offer AT ALL. With or withour LVP.

And I will DEFINITELY not be watching next weeks episode with that old, haggard, worthless, wrinkled, lying piece of crap, Kim Richards. 

 Thanks for the warning.    I won't be watching either.

[chenoa333]

13 minutes ago, AnnA said:

 Thanks for the warning.    I won't be watching either.

You're welcome. Consider it a public service announcement!😁

[LibertarianSlut]

On 5/26/2019 at 7:16 PM, gritz said:

Rinna's mindset upon seeing the cheese wheel pasta...

Kyle was pretty glassy-eyed herself, so she probably partook, too. Not that she'd ever admit it.

You're right that Kyle doesn't like to admit to her drug use.  In season five, when Kyle was hesitant to try an edible in Amsterdam, BrandI outed Kyle for smoking pot with Brandi off camera, and Kyle was flummoxed.  

I don't blame Kyle in this one particular instance though.  This was before majijuana was legal in Cali, and Kyle was a parent to young-ish kids at the time.  I don't think it's hypocritical to smoke weed off-camera, and expect that to stay private between co-workers who are friendly.

This was the season I officially switched away from liking Brandi, and toward liking Kyle for the first time, so maybe I was cutting her extra slack.

I think Mauricio was baked in this scene, but I found it funny, because it was a one-time thing.  It's completely different from Denise, week after week, showing up to drinks stoned and talking about a huge penis, being stoned around her husband and children, being stoned on a Hallmark movie set with her ex-boyfriend...that is all very boring to me.

I actually don't care who is taking Xanax, who is nursing a drink round the clock, and who can't function without eating a pot brownie beforehand.  It's how they act.  I expect them to act like people.  I am going to call out consistent poor behavior, and if someone can function just fine, it's not my business what they are doing to seem "fine" I guess.  Say what you will about Teddi, I have a feeling she is quite "Accountable" wihen it comes to her drug use, haha.

[RealHousewife]

16 minutes ago, LibertarianSlut said:

You're right that Kyle doesn't like to admit to her drug use.  In season five, when Kyle was hesitant to try an edible in Amsterdam, BrandI outed Kyle for smoking pot with Brandi off camera, and Kyle was flummoxed.  

I don't blame Kyle in this one particular instance though.  This was before majijuana was legal in Cali, and Kyle was a parent to young-ish kids at the time.  I don't think it's hypocritical to smoke weed off-camera, and expect that to stay private between co-workers who are friendly.

This was the season I officially switched away from liking Brandi, and toward liking Kyle for the first time, so maybe I was cutting her extra slack.

I think Mauricio was baked in this scene, but I found it funny, because it was a one-time thing.  It's completely different from Denise, week after week, showing up to drinks stoned and talking about a huge penis, being stoned around her husband and children, being stoned on a Hallmark movie set with her ex-boyfriend...that is all very boring to me.

I actually don't care who is taking Xanax, who is nursing a drink round the clock, and who can't function without eating a pot brownie beforehand.  It's how they act.  I expect them to act like people.  I am going to call out consistent poor behavior, and if someone can function just fine, it's not my business what they are doing to seem "fine" I guess.  Say what you will about Teddi, I have a feeling she is quite "Accountable" wihen it comes to her drug use, haha.

It was messed up of Brandi to put Kyle on blast like that, some friend! 

[aussieinsydney]

The one thing that stuck with me about this episode was when they were having dinner the night before (?) the wedding and the pasta cheese bowl comes to the table. Dorit says something like "I don't think I can go there." Teddi remarks that she doesn't do carbs in the evening and Rinna took the Oscar for the best performance when she looks into the bowl and yowls "Ohhhhhhhh, wooooooowwwwww, yeahhhhhh." WTF is with these women and pasta. It frightens the hell out of them and in turn scares the shit out of me LOL! Just eat it, it won't kill you!

Further to Rinna though, she's watching everyone dish themselves up a plate and the look on her face is just dread. I mean she's hating every second of this and it shows! She takes a sniff, takes a bite or two and then next scene someone is asking if anyone wants more and Rinna's all like "I would like a lot more, but I'm done!" Rinna says to Camille in a slightly panicked voice "I might have to go to bed early" and she was going on about a bath and lemon etc. All I could think of was Rinna's inner voice was fucking screaming at her for eating pasta and saying "Hurry the fuck up and get to a bathroom so you can throw this shit up!!!" SMDH.

[Happy Camper]

5 hours ago, RealHousewife said:

It was messed up of Brandi to put Kyle on blast like that, some friend! 

I didn't realize that Brandi and Kyle were ever friends.

[RealHousewife]

1 minute ago, Happy Camper said:

I didn't realize that Brandi and Kyle were ever friends.

They were very friendly for awhile. That's probably why Kyle felt comfortable smoking pot with her. 

[Happy Camper]

10 minutes ago, RealHousewife said:

They were very friendly for awhile. That's probably why Kyle felt comfortable smoking pot with her. 

I'm not a Brandi fan, but denying that she ever smoked is just another example of Kyle lying. Add it to the list.

[RealHousewife]

4 minutes ago, Happy Camper said:

I'm not a Brandi fan, but denying that she ever smoked is just another example of Kyle lying. Add it to the list.

I don't think Kyle wanting that info to have been kept private due to her kids makes her a liar. To each his own though!

[LibertarianSlut]

I have no dog in this fight--I actually liked all the women a lot on season five, but there was a point that Brandi and Kim started to separate themselves with the substance abuse/weirdness, and when Brandi put her hands on Kyle in Eileen's house, I was shocked, but I actually liked them all, even Yolanda.  I really liked LVP.  I felt so bad for her when Brandi slapped her. 

So I say this with no agenda--Kyle was just shocked, but she never denied smoking marijuana with Brandi.  The pot smoking came up again at the reunion IIRC, and Kyle was pissed, but she never denied it.  I would have believed her if she had.

So...even if people think Kyle lies, and I have no problem with this (her bestie is Faye Resnick after all), this was one thing on which she didn't lie, act dishonestly, or mislead.  

[Dutchgirl]

On 5/21/2019 at 10:50 PM, suomi said:

LOL, Mauricio is baked. 

On 5/22/2019 at 12:17 AM, Dutchgirl said:

...and fat. Holy. 

On 5/22/2019 at 3:17 PM, ButterQueen said:

Fat????

Bloated, chubby, thick...whatever the term, the man can't touch his toes. 

[Higgins]

3 minutes ago, Dutchgirl said:

Bloated, chubby, thick...whatever the term, the man can't touch his toes. 

I'm Fat and can touch my toes without even bending my knees.

[Dutchgirl]

Just now, Higgins said:

I'm Fat and can touch my toes without even bending my knees.

You're ahead of Mauricio then. Congratulations.

[Higgins]

10 minutes ago, Dutchgirl said:

You're ahead of Mauricio then. Congratulations.

Yeah, I'm proud of that.

[candle96]

On 5/22/2019 at 6:16 AM, Baltimore Betty said:

I was shocked and disappointed when I saw what Camille chose for bridesmaids dresses, they looked so fuddy duddy and out of place in Hawaii, did she get them from David's Bridals?  Not that there is anything wrong with David's, it just that with the hoity toity well to do I would have expected a little more designer/fashion forward or different and less of...David's.

I loved Rinna's swim suit she wore when paddle boarding...I need that suit!

Mauricio looked a little out of shape, I am not throwing shade it is just in the past he has been in really good shape...(I love my Mr. Betty and if he was in Mauricio's current shape I would be thrilled but such as life with real husbands, lol.

Not that there is anything wrong with a Marriott but I would have expected the Four Seasons.  I guess Bravo got a deal with Marriott but who among us does not expect glitz and glamour from this show?

ITA. The color, the style, what was she thinking? More appropriate for a winter wedding in Connecticut. And then they added the traditional flower crowns, and they looked even more out of place. Bridesmaidmaids for a wedding in Hawaii should be wearing, IMHO, a bright or pale color, and they should be sort of flowy and, you know, "beachy." The funny thing is that Kyle complained about the fit of that dress on her and I think she looked great. Much more flattering than some of the dresses she picks herself!

I will admit I was a bit disappointed with where they stayed as well. It was certainly nice enough, but didn't seem super luxurious. That's why I watch these shows - to see the women go on fabulous vacations I could never afford!

Edited May 30, 2019 by candle96

[thesnarkiest]

On 5/22/2019 at 5:46 PM, Gem 10 said:

Doesn’t Rinna get a headache when not eating?  If I don’t eat carbs, I will literally fall down from weakness.  Nothing like a big burger to straighten you out.   What the hell does that woman eat?

She eats Adderall..

[langford peel]

I wish she would eat shit.

[Happy Camper]

1 hour ago, thesnarkiest said:

She eats Adderall..

She feasts on Adderall.