S11.E05: Shark Bait

[Natalie68]

On 4/4/2019 at 3:26 AM, Lizzing said:

I know Ramona & Sonja were rude as hell laughing their heads off about LuAnn getting the fish room at dinner, but I do enjoy them when they get along.  They were also fun sitting on the park bench discussing Ramona's blind date.  Those two kooky broads are the best when they get along and have fun.

I've not always liked Lu, but I've always liked her for the show--like if she wasn't there, there would be a part of the fabric of the show missing.  But now her haughty hubris is very grating, and makes Ramona at Heather's house seem like the paragon of manners.  I wish she'd been forced to sit out this year for her no-show at the reunion.  (I don't believe for a nanosecond that her rehab stint was anything but strategically timed to avoid questions about the kids' law suit against her.)  And while I hated Bethenny's tirade against her 3 seasons back, I'm kinda now excited for Bethenny to go in on her.  Something truly is wrong in the world if I'm looking forward to a Bethenny take-down.

Why in the hell does Dale have THs?  Totally unnecessary--she's no Patricia; hell, she's not even Dee or Elsa!

I wish I could remember where I read it, but IIRC, Scott has been cheating on Tinsley in Chicago since they started dating, or so the rumor went.  That could be why they didn't work out, in addition to her being a bottomless pit of need.  I could see her not wanting to bring that up at the boat lunch.

Bethenny needs to get her story straight on her relationship with Dennis though.  It's all over the damn map.

I think her relationship with him WAS all over the map.  I think they cared for each other but was one of those relationships of convenience.  You love/like them, you THINK it would be a great relationship, but when you dedicate time to it, it just doesn't work.  There is something THERE that keeps you from diving head first but enough there that keeps you from walking away for good.  It sounds like both of their lives were very complicated.

[Ms Blue Jay]

16 hours ago, Alonzo Mosely FBI said:

Money can't by you a  bass? Hahahahaha

"Money can't buy you ba-ass" you guys are hysterical

[PradaKitty]

I like to decorate for Christmas and Halloween Lin the over the top Dorinda way. I absolutely loved the scary clowns and must have them for the (Halloween) graveyard near my front door! 

And LuAnn has NO class, manners or vocal talent. 

[TexasGal]

49 minutes ago, Natalie68 said:

I don't know why that dress is sold in adult stores.  It is awful on anyone over the age of say, 8?  HORRID.  It is the second dress she wore that was like that.  

I started reading your post without really reading the comment you were responding to, and I thought you meant adult like ADULT and couldn't figure out who was wearing a sex store dress.  Not enough coffee today.

37 minutes ago, Natalie68 said:

AND the help/chef used the same bathroom!  The horror!  I think the moments where Lu isn't a horrible person are an anomaly.  She IS a horrid person 99% of the time and that is just who she is.  So the passive aggressive side of me would make sure she gets the worst room from now on. 

Speaking of the horror and chefs, I don't understand the appeal of next week's naked chef.  That just grosses me out.  He's wearing an apron, sure, but just no.  Thank you.  And I'm not even generally a germ phobic person but that is nasty to me.

[Dirtybubble]

So am I correct in understanding the only thing wrong with the fish room is that it has a shark, a marlin, etc. hanging from the wall?  It's not like the bed is uncomfortable or super small, right?  And it has an easy access to the bathroom?

Yeah it's a room decorated for a man while the other room is clearly more girly.

Enh I like sharks so I would have taken the room.  It kinda looks like a room Ernest Hemingway would like 😄

3 minutes ago, TexasGal said:

Speaking of the horror and chefs, I don't understand the appeal of next week's naked chef.  That just grosses me out.  He's wearing an apron, sure, but just no.  Thank you.  And I'm not even generally a germ phobic person but that is nasty to me.

Ok thanks for bringing this up b/c I didn't want to seem like a prude but yeah that sceeves me out too.  He seemed to be a very hairy man (not that I mind hairy men) but instead of him being COMPLETELY nude and near our food put him in some shorty-shorts or something.  IDK I hope this is one of the producers bright ideas and not something Dorinda thought of.

[Natalie68]

15 hours ago, ChitChat said:

Seems like Dorinda made a comment about them meaning something to her because of her late husband.  Maybe I'm remembering it wrong.  It's been so long ago since she first introduced us to the fish room!  Although I don't care for that particular décor, I certainly wouldn't insult my hostess by complaining about it.  At least it has a bed and is clean!  I'd love to visit Dorinda's house and see all of the decorations.  It would be worth it even if I had to stay in a room with mounted fish in it! Somebody needs to photoshop LuAnn's face onto one of those fish mounts.

I am a normal person, not a person of great means and neither are most of my friends.  We do ok but not Bethenny ok.  That said, I have been offered some pretty uncomfortable things to sleep on when staying with friends and did I tell them I was uncomfortable?  NO!  They offered what they had and I graciously accepted.  Lu needs to go to etiquette classes.  Or classes on how to appear semi human.  Just when I start being able to tolerate her...

[Reality police]

For those who haven't seen it, here is the shark room.

[ladle]

Dorinda is far from my favorite person, but I legitimately felt bad for her when Luann was berating her about the room. 

[Natalie68]

16 minutes ago, TexasGal said:

I started reading your post without really reading the comment you were responding to, and I thought you meant adult like ADULT and couldn't figure out who was wearing a sex store dress.  Not enough coffee today.

Speaking of the horror and chefs, I don't understand the appeal of next week's naked chef.  That just grosses me out.  He's wearing an apron, sure, but just no.  Thank you.  And I'm not even generally a germ phobic person but that is nasty to me.

Me neither.  I want more layers between someone's bits and my food.  

2 minutes ago, Reality police said:

For those who haven't seen it, here is the shark room.

Gotta say, what I like about it is it is dark and has a large bed to completely stretch out.  I could sleep very well there.

[ladle]

*raises hand* I don't get the appeal of the naked chef either.  And not even from a prudish standpoint.  Just from a ... why???... standpoint.

[ladle]

Also, Bravo really missed a golden opportunity to title this episode Shark, C'est La Vie. 

[Chit Chat]

29 minutes ago, TexasGal said:

Speaking of the horror and chefs, I don't understand the appeal of next week's naked chef.  That just grosses me out.  He's wearing an apron, sure, but just no.  Thank you.  And I'm not even generally a germ phobic person but that is nasty to me.

Amen!  That's just gross.  Although he might have a nice butt to look at, I don't want to see it in the kitchen!  I'd lose my appetite for sure.  Take it out to the pool for cryin' out loud!

I remember the Christmas episode and either Dorinda or the other ladies put Santa hats on the fish in that room.  It was cute!   

[Dirtybubble]

18 minutes ago, Reality police said:

For those who haven't seen it, here is the shark room.

Ok this is kinda cute.  I luv the throw pillows on the sofa.  And a window with I'm sure a nice view....yeah this is totally doable!

[hoodooznoodooz]

1 hour ago, Natalie68 said:

I loved it!  

Okay. I apologize!

[ghoulina]

21 minutes ago, Natalie68 said:

Gotta say, what I like about it is it is dark and has a large bed to completely stretch out.  I could sleep very well there.

Same. When you take in the entire context of the room, the fish on the wall are REALLY not that big of a deal. 

19 minutes ago, ladle said:

*raises hand* I don't get the appeal of the naked chef either.  And not even from a prudish standpoint.  Just from a ... why???... standpoint.

Yes! I mean, I am kind of prudish, LOL. But it's not about that. I just don't see the point.  It makes me think of the Seinfeld episode where they talked about good naked and bad naked. I think cooking an elaborate dinner might just be "bad naked". 

[Chit Chat]

The fish room looks better than I remembered it.  Seems like it was kind of crowded and had 2 beds in there.  Maybe the sofa pulled out into a bed and that's why it looked kind of cramped the last time LuAnn was in there.  It actually looks quite roomy for 1 person.  There's a nice window to look out of too.  LuAnn needs to STFU about it and appreciate that she has her own room.  

1 minute ago, ghoulina said:

It makes me think of the Seinfeld episode where they talked about good naked and bad naked. I think cooking an elaborate dinner might just be "bad naked".

Or when Kramer was either washing dishes in his bathtub or fixing his meals in there.  Ick!!

[kicksave]

21 hours ago, sasha206 said:

I guess my take is different.  I think they see their friend hanging onto someone who doesn't want the same things she does.  If Tins wants a family  it does her no good to be tied down to someone who just sends her photos of an engagement ring and isn't making any further effort.

That said, if the most important thing to Tins is marriage and kids with Scott, forget about your "brand" being tied to NYC.  Be in NYC for the filming and be in Chicago for the rest of the time.  Or hey, how about a RH franchise in Chicago?  

None of their business none the less...and many of these women are actually “friends” with Tinsley...Sonja is the worst friend ever...stabs Tinsley in the back constantly and trash talks her to everyone. I think Tinsley can figure out what to do without the Witches of New York chiming in.

[sadie]

Scott strikes me as a goofy guy that could never get the pretty girls until he came into money. Now he has a taste of playing around and he won’t commit to Tinsley because, well he doesn’t have to. I know she has her quirks but I like Tinsley, she seems to have a good heart, seems fun, is beautiful and comes from money, any guy would be lucky to have her.

Dear Scott, next please. 

Tinsley you can do better. 

[sasha206]

2 minutes ago, kicksave said:

None of their business none the less...and many of these women are actually “friends” with Tinsley...Sonja is the worst friend ever...stabs Tinsley in the back constantly and trash talks her to everyone. I think Tinsley can figure out what to do without the Witches of New York chiming in.

Without the Scott storyline, what else does she have to talk about?  Animal rescue stuff would get old.  So if she wants to stay on the show, the drama of her relationship and her "friends" riding her tail is probably a good thing for her to stay on the show.

[Chit Chat]

1 minute ago, sadie said:

I know she has her quirks but I like Tinsley, she seems to have a good heart, seems fun, is beautiful and comes from money, any guy would be lucky to have her.

I like her too.  Hearing her talk about her self-esteem issues made me realize just how much we really don't know about Tinsley and what she's been through.  She keeps it light for the show, but I think there's another level to her that is in need of healing.  I hope she can find her way back to how she used to feel about herself.  The other ladies may mean well, but I don't think it's too helpful at this point for them to chime in on her love life.  

[kicksave]

5 minutes ago, sasha206 said:

Without the Scott storyline, what else does she have to talk about?  Animal rescue stuff would get old.  So if she wants to stay on the show, the drama of her relationship and her "friends" riding her tail is probably a good thing for her to stay on the show.

That should apply to some of the other ladies as well...Like Ramona...besides her bad dates what else is there? Are we going to watch Bethenny cry all season over her deceased boyfriend that she was going to dump anyway? And Sonja...not much there except for her high opinion of herself. 

[ladle]

I like Tinsley.  I also feel like if she really, desperately wanted a baby, she would have had one already.  She has so many resources and there are so many ways.  She seems like someone who first and foremost wants a man, and then if a baby comes along after than then fine/cool/great.  But I don't get the sense she's deeply yearning to have a kid. 

Edited April 6, 2019 by ladle

[sasha206]

1 minute ago, kicksave said:

That should apply to some of the other ladies as well...Like Ramona...besides her bad dates what else is there? Are we going to watch Bethenny cry all season over her deceased boyfriend that she was going to dump anyway? And Sonja...not much there except for her high opinion of herself. 

Of course it applies to all of them.  All of them want to ramp up some sort of drama to keep them on the show.  However, in my view, Beth is disgusting for using her dead boyfriend as a storyline so she can once again talk about how much men love her.  And how their lives are ruined when she dumps them.

[Cherrio]

40 minutes ago, ghoulina said:

I don't get the appeal of the naked chef either. 

Are they serving rump roast?

Now, I would of given Luann the room of her choice if she had given a honest (for once) reason why.  I am a total liar and loser.

I hope she enjoys the fish room and downs a few Old Fishions while there and "hook" up with the naked hairy chef.

[KungFuBunny]

1 hour ago, TexasGal said:

I started reading your post without really reading the comment you were responding to, and I thought you meant adult like ADULT and couldn't figure out who was wearing a sex store dress.  Not enough coffee today.

Speaking of the horror and chefs, I don't understand the appeal of next week's naked chef.  That just grosses me out.  He's wearing an apron, sure, but just no.  Thank you.  And I'm not even generally a germ phobic person but that is nasty to me.

I don't think I'd want to see the chef bend to reach for something in the oven, I have enough problems dealing with seeing plumber's crack.

I don't think I'd be able to eat, I'd be too busy wondering if those capers are dingleberries...Eeeeeeew!

[Natalie68]

1 hour ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Okay. I apologize!

No need!  HA!  My thoughts were wow that is so pretty and looks great on her but didn't she get the memo this was a casual dress outing?

[njbchlover]

2 hours ago, Reality police said:

For those who haven't seen it, here is the shark room.

I don't see the problem here, unless you have a major fish phobia.  

I also think that this room looks a hell of a lot more comfortable than the third floor of the Morgan townhouse with the crumbling walls and moldy carpets that Luann used a couple of seasons ago.  I also bet that Dorinda doesn't have brown ice cubes and plenty of hot water in the bathrooms!!  

Edited April 5, 2019 by njbchlover

[Gem 10]

In next weeks preview, tell me the “ naked chef”is supposed to be a joke.  He’s not really going to cook .. is he?  A hairy ass in the kitchen?    P.s. I was reading backwards so didn’t see the other naked chef comments up thread.  Glad to read I wasn’t the only one who thought it wasn’t funny.  In fact it’s gross.  Of course Sonja will love it.

Edited April 5, 2019 by Gem 10

[Chit Chat]

1 hour ago, Cherrio said:

I hope she enjoys the fish room and downs a few Old Fishions while there and "hook" up with the naked hairy chef.

Maybe if he puts on a pirate hat he can reel her in!  

[Ms Blue Jay]

3 hours ago, Natalie68 said:

Me neither.  I want more layers between someone's bits and my food.  

Gotta say, what I like about it is it is dark and has a large bed to completely stretch out.  I could sleep very well there.

I'm great at sleeping and not great at noticing things.  I think I'd be like you.  Right to sleep I'd go.  Then again I'm allowed to drink and Luann is not.

[UsernameFatigue]

On 4/3/2019 at 11:22 PM, biakbiak said:

The poor hostess tried to get on the show by offering a yacht and barely got screen time or anyone talking to her much less kissing her ass! 

I haven't read all the posts so this might have been brought up already, but WTH is the big deal about having lunch on a yacht at the end of October? I seriously don't get it. The boat never left the dock, and the women were stuck outside where it appeared to be pretty cold (as one might expect at the end of October). I could see how it might be enjoyable in mid summer,  if the yacht actually left the dock, and they could swim and sunbathe. But that lunch did not look fun, at all. I would much prefer being in a waterfront restaurant with a table by the window, where I can enjoy the view and stay warm. I often wonder if these women realize how their pretentiousness makes many of us laugh at them? 

I loved how Sonja went from bare arms, to a black jacket, and back to bare arms. I guess the women were not getting their lines right, and the editing monkeys did not notice that what at least Sonja was wearing did not match the order of the conversation. 

I don't see anything wrong with the fish room either. Boo f-ing hoo. If I were Dorinda, I would have thrown Lu out. What a self absorbed bitch. I love how she always thinks some other howife should have to put up with accommodations that she thinks are beneath her. When she and Tom split, she thought on another vacation that she should have the best room because, well, she and Tom split. Now it is because she and Dorinda were on the outs. I actually love that Dorinda gave Beth the room she asked for because she wanted to make her feel comfortable. Good on Dorinda for making it nice for Beth. And apparently hell for Lu. 

Edited April 5, 2019 by UsernameFatigue

[Keywestclubkid]

22 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

I don't see the problem here, unless you have a major fish phobia.  

I also think that this room looks a hell of a lot more comfortable than the third floor of the Morgan townhouse with the crumbling walls and moldy carpets that Luann used a couple of seasons ago.  I also bet that Dorinda doesn't have brown ice cubes and plenty of hot water in the bathrooms!!  

Other then the couch carpet and end tables not being in “motif”with the theme there is absolutely nothing wrong with that room. That couch is a little to close to a porn couch that’s really famous for my taste lol 

[Chit Chat]

5 minutes ago, UsernameFatigue said:

I haven't read all the posts so this might have been brought up already, but WTH is the big deal about having lunch on a yacht at the end of October? I seriously don't get it.

I would've been throwing up sitting there in port.  I can't handle the rocking motion of a boat sitting still.   I'm okay once it gets going - if the water's not too choppy.  I'd rather sit in a restaurant overlooking the water rather than sit in a rocking boat.  Ugh.  I get nauseous just thinking about it!  

8 minutes ago, UsernameFatigue said:

I actually love that Dorinda gave Beth the room she asked for because she wanted to make her feel comfortable. Good on Dorinda for making it nice for Beth. And apparently hell for Lu. 

You'd think that LuAnn would have some empathy given the fact that Bethenny just recently lost Dennis, but nooooo, her entitled ass thinks she should get the best, others be damned.  I don't recall her complaining so much about that room the last time.  I think she made a snide remark about the décor in her TH, but she wasn't rude to Dorinda about it.  LuAnn's excuse that it brought back bad memories is just lame.  The whole house should bring back bad memories if that's the case.  She otter shut up and just stay home. 

[WhoaWhoKnew]

9 minutes ago, UsernameFatigue said:

I haven't read all the posts so this might have been brought up already, but WTH is the big deal about having lunch on a yacht at the end of October? I seriously don't get it. The boat never left the dock, and the women were stuck outside where it appeared to be pretty cold (as one might expect at the end of October). 

Lol seriously! It looked dreary as fuck!

Have they run out of restaurants that'll let them film get togethers?

[SuprSuprElevated]

6 hours ago, Claire Voyant said:

If only Lu was anywhere near as smart and wonderful as she THINKS she is....

If only she cared 1/10 as much about being smart, as she does about being fabulous.  Same could be said about 2 or 3 of these women.

[Claire Voyant]

4 minutes ago, SuprSuprElevated said:

If only she cared 1/10 as much about being smart, as she does about being fabulous.  Same could be said about 2 or 3 of these women.

I don't think she stands a snowball's chance in hell of being either one.   

As time goes on, I find fewer and fewer redeeming qualities in any of them.  Dysfunctional, delusional, dizzy dames, but oddly fun to watch.  They help my superiority complex grow  more and more after each episode.  😎 

[Cherrio]

20 minutes ago, WhoaWhoKnew said:

Have they run out of restaurants that'll let them film get together

I wondered why on earth Wheatleigh let them film there in Lenox. They must be in financial trouble or someone made a really bad decision.

[AnnA]

3 hours ago, ChitChat said:

The fish room looks better than I remembered it.  Seems like it was kind of crowded and had 2 beds in there.  Maybe the sofa pulled out into a bed and that's why it looked kind of cramped the last time LuAnn was in there.  It actually looks quite roomy for 1 person.  There's a nice window to look out of too.  LuAnn needs to STFU about it and appreciate that she has her own room.  

Or when Kramer was either washing dishes in his bathtub or fixing his meals in there.  Ick!!

I remember that room the same way.   Didn't LuAnn share that room with someone?   Sonja????    

Dorinda said she was short one bedroom.    Does that mean Barbara is coming and will have to share with someone?  Maybe LuAnn since I think that sofa opens.   

I remember when Ramona and Sonja always shared a room.  They haven't done that in a long time.

[HunterHunted]

3 hours ago, Reality police said:

For those who haven't seen it, here is the shark room.

For someone who seemed to go all out in the rest of the house, I do think the "Fish Room" is curiously underthought and a bit half finished. It looks like it might make sense if the pattern in the bed skirt was featured more prominently. Despite not being expertly coordinated, it looks like a perfectly comfortable room. The other wives are a bunch of assholes for throwing a fit about the decor, especially when it doesn't look any more disjointed than any random room in Barbara's house.

I kind of hope that Dorinda, if she's back for season 12, partners with an internet famous decorator to revamp the "fish room" in a way that includes the fish trophies. I think it's entirely possible with some suzani, ikat, paisley, wax print, and an overdyed rug while also introducing a neutral or two in a significant way. The reason I say internet famous is because they are much more likely to do it so that it can be also featured on Bravo and because they tend to keep their budgets low. I don't believe this room needs much more than some new textiles and slightly more coordinated art.

[UsernameFatigue]

On 4/4/2019 at 7:15 AM, DUKECITY15110 said:

THIS. AAAALL OF THIS. I typically ADORE Lu, but this is beyond ridiculous! Someone please give her a damn drink. I'm sorry, but the bish needs a drink, STAT.

I recently was dieting to lose a few pounds, and found myself at times hangry around others. I wonder if Lu was "thangry"? Thirsty for booze and angry that she could not have any?  At least while the cameras were rolling. Her anger at the restaurant really seemed OTT, even for Lu.

Speaking of thirsty, Dale seems to be bobbing for an apple. She really is insufferable. OTOH, I loved Dorinda's sister. More of her, please.

I laughed when Lu could not believe that Tins would not move to Chicago without a ring on her finger. Lu would move anywhere with any guy, as long as there was a penthouse involved. It is a wonder she hasn't made a play for Scott herself. 

I must say though, I love these NY women. So much more entertaining that the BH wives have been this season. 

[hoodooznoodooz]

None of us should be surprised by Lu’s appalling behavior. She explained many years ago that money couldn’t buy her class. 

[rhys]

Wonder why Barb isn't getting the fish room.

[SuprSuprElevated]

Lu has been showing her ass since S1/E1.  Sometimes it's wrapped in gold lame' Jovani, and sometimes gin-soaked denim, but it has always been out there, right Ms. Nadeau/de Lesseps/D'Agostino/de Lesseps?

Croon Croak into the mic Luann, it's time for a sound check.

[Gem 10]

On 4/4/2019 at 3:34 PM, sasha206 said:

Lu was an ass but the bigger ass to me last night was Beth.  For her to even suggest that his OD could've had something to do with their relationship disgusted me.  If she truly thinks he overmedicated b/c of his great love lost over her, she should keep that therapy session off camera.  And to even mention his wife while this session is being televised was gross.  No one can top her levels of narcissism.

Why would Beth even think his subside was because of her?  Maybe he thought he might go to jail being his company was being investigated.  I don’t even remember him in the picture until last year.  They were probably friends with benefits for a long time.  Besides, didn’t she say she wouldn’t get married again after her divorce from Jason?  Her relationship with Dennis was very puzzling.  Then with the other guy she met before Dennis died and is now dating.  Very sketchy.  Suicide up there instead of subside.  Guess auto correct not working.

[Reality police]

2 hours ago, HunterHunted said:

For someone who seemed to go all out in the rest of the house, I do think the "Fish Room" is curiously underthought and a bit half finished. It looks like it might make sense if the pattern in the bed skirt was featured more prominently. Despite not being expertly coordinated, it looks like a perfectly comfortable room. The other wives are a bunch of assholes for throwing a fit about the decor, especially when it doesn't look any more disjointed than any random room in Barbara's house.

I kind of hope that Dorinda, if she's back for season 12, partners with an internet famous decorator to revamp the "fish room" in a way that includes the fish trophies. I think it's entirely possible with some suzani, ikat, paisley, wax print, and an overdyed rug while also introducing a neutral or two in a significant way. The reason I say internet famous is because they are much more likely to do it so that it can be also featured on Bravo and because they tend to keep their budgets low. I don't believe this room needs much more than some new textiles and slightly more coordinated art.

Tom and Carson!

[Dutchgirl]

On 4/3/2019 at 10:02 PM, KungFuBunny said:

It's 9:00 PM!!!

[sashayshante]

8 minutes ago, Gem 10 said:

Lu was an ass but the bigger ass to me last night was Beth.  For her to even suggest that his OD could've had something to do with their relationship disgusted me.  If she truly thinks he overmedicated b/c of his great love lost over her, she should keep that therapy session off camera.  And to even mention his wife while this session is being televised was gross.  No one can top her levels of narcissism. 

I just finished watching this bullshit woo woo therapy scene. When she cried and said she didn't know where she fit in at the funeral, I was disgusted. She made it all about her. Maybe she should try to figure out why literally everyone that gets sucked into her vortex ends up worse for it. I can not understand how people don't see how toxic she is.

[Dutchgirl]

Tinsley's flashback was actually painful. I'd kill my mother if she warned my boyfriend to jump ship. Poor Tinsley.

 

[Dutchgirl]

32 minutes ago, sashayshante said:

I just finished watching this bullshit woo woo therapy scene. When she cried and said she didn't know where she fit in at the funeral, I was disgusted. She made it all about her. Maybe she should try to figure out why literally everyone that gets sucked into her vortex ends up worse for it. I can not understand how people don't see how toxic she is.

Can't imagine how is ex and his kids feel. I like Bethenny, but why would anyone have a grief therapy session on camera, especially when she's already dating again? I don't know, seems a little high on the sociopathic scale... 

[Gem 10]

1 hour ago, sashayshante said:

I just finished watching this bullshit woo woo therapy scene. When she cried and said she didn't know where she fit in at the funeral, I was disgusted. She made it all about her. Maybe she should try to figure out why literally everyone that gets sucked into her vortex ends up worse for it. I can not understand how people don't see how toxic she is.

I didn’t say this.  The quotes are wrong again.   Gem 10