S11.E05: Shark Bait

[Jel]

Something feels very wrong with the world when I find Ramona to be the pleasant voice of reason.

I don't know whether to suggest everyone buy a lottery ticket or stock up on essentials.

Am I wrong or did Luann used to at least be fake nice at one time? She's even given that up now.

[Kdawg82]

You might be a redneck if...you love the fish room.

me: “I love the fish room.”

Honestly though, what a sack of rude, hypocritical a-holes. Beth is just mental. No semblance of the struggling, quirky , self deprecating chef I once adored . This show proves the more $ you have, the more problems. Tinsley is old money as I understand it so it explains her graciousness above the rest of our ladies from humble beginnings. You’d think the opposite is true but no. Moaner made her own $ and is so rude. LuAnn, I thought her huff toward Do was a joke. It has to be...right? I mean seriously. She’s kidding, right? 

ETA: To my point about self-made /new $:  I know some people like that. Suddenly everything is beneath them and they need the best room. They establish themselves as “alpha” in relationships so they can get their way and get everyone around them (regardless of the relationship) serving them/working for them for free. Be it sister, mother, brother. It is so toxic. 

Anyway, I see this with pretty much all these women except Dorinda & Tinsley. Sonja Tries at this but I think she uses the interns mostly in this capacity bc no way her heart is cold enough / she’s not brave enough to act out with these bitches. 

Edited April 4, 2019 by Kdawg82

[FlyingEgret]

I laughed that Lu's biggest complaint about the Fish Room wasn't the overwhelming number of fish on the walls - it was that the room had blue walls and green bedding (or vice versa).  How anyone could sleep surrounded by those complementary colors is simply beyond me...

[LovesTheDrama]

Tinsley was so gracious to give her room to LuAnn, but Lu feels so entitled that she throws a fit that Dorinda did think enough of her to give her the best room. Lu had been treating Dorinda like the concierge with the yoga and massage requests, she must have thought it would carry over to the best room in the manor. 

[bosawks]

6 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

The only possible reason I can think of that Luann may not wish to stay in the fish room is that the last time she stayed at Dorinda's in that room she was completely hammered and shit-faced and doesn't want the memory?    

Ah, I sea, she doesn’t want to flounder.

But she doesn’t have to carp about it.

[TV Diva Queen]

Luann was a total bitch to Dorinda. Who says that to your host?  No one I know. I couldn’t even imagine being invited to stay at someone’s home and then not only bitch about the room, but also put it down. Horrible. I was always a Lu fan. Ride or die with her, today, I’m riding away. 

I think Beth and Dennis we’re besties. He was still married. Beth said as much to the counselor when she said “the ex-wife had to deal with the morgue”. She was probably so used to saying “ex-wife” that that’s why she said it tonight. So anyway, Dennis probably wanted to marry her. Gave her the ring so she would wait for his divorce to be final. She dated during their relationship because she wasn’t feeling it with him still being married.  Her logic being “he’s got a wife at home, I’m going to continue to date until he comes home to me”.  

[Lisapooh]

5 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

IF Luann returns from her stomp-off down the hall at the restaurant.  I didn't see her in the previews for next week, but we all know how Bravo likes to play with the viewers!!  

I guess Luann has forgotten that "Elegance is learned, mah friend"!!  🙂

etiquette is spurned mah friend! 

[funnygirl]

I miss "Be cool. Don't be all, like, uncool" Luann. 

Edited April 4, 2019 by funnygirl

[Ms Blue Jay]

1 minute ago, bosawks said:

Ah, I sea, she doesn’t want to flounder.

But she doesn’t have to carp about it.

Her behaviour was codawful! 

[Chit Chat]

6 minutes ago, FlyingEgret said:

I laughed that Lu's biggest complaint about the Fish Room wasn't the overwhelming number of fish on the walls - it was that the room had blue walls and green bedding (or vice versa).  How anyone could sleep surrounded by those complementary colors is simply beyond me...

And it brought back bad memories since they woke up with a terrible hangover.  Seriously, LuAnn.  You're going to have to avoid a lot of other places if you're going to have a meltdown every time you go somewhere in which you were drunk or had a hangover.  Get over your damn self!  

[pieinmyeye]

After her oh so entitled behavior tonight, I wouldn’t go see Luann if she was standing on my front porch, much less pay to see her. She definitely won “The Most Entitled Bitch of NYC” tonight.

[LilaFowler]

In the same way that Luann is in no position to lecture someone else about their drinking, she (and Bethenny) really shouldn't be doling out relationship advice to Tinsley. I mean, really. I felt sorry for Tinsley because she was getting grilled. Her relationship sounds like it's a mess and on some level she knows it, but she's terrified of pushing Scott because he'll dump her and never look back. Sonja is right -- she's just hoping that it will all pan out. I was surprised that Tinsley is so concerned about (re)building her brand. Personally, I would prioritize a relationship over a brand, but that's just me...

Luann was shockingly rude. I would be so offended to hear a "friend" insult my home as she did. I was always able to at least see Luann's side before this because Dorinda's angry, drunken rants last year were super ugly, but Luann's behavior at that restaurant was beyond the pale. She has no manners!

[Chit Chat]

8 minutes ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

Her behaviour was codawful! 

Hee!   She was the King Crab.  

[Lisapooh]

1 minute ago, LilaFowler said:

Luann was shockingly rude. I would be so offended to hear a "friend" insult my home as she did. I was always able to at least see Luann's side before this because Dorinda's angry, drunken rants last year were super ugly, but Luann's behavior at that restaurant was beyond the pale. She has no manners!

I was only half paying attention and just assumed Luanne was bitching to others. My jaw became well and truly unhinged when I saw she said that right in front of Dorinda.

Dorinda needs to CLIP CLIP CLIP her ass right out of the Berkshires. 

[Dance4Life]

I love Bs living room.  Her interior designer did a good job with this apartment.

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

Give the fish room to Roe-mona! 🙂

Loved Moaners googly eyes on the 2009 runway! Simon VK!  Memories !!!

WANT the 10yo limping arthritic homeless old dog in the fashion show! TAKE MY MONEY !! 

Oh Bethenny. On camera, one session of grief therapy, in your home . Who even are you? WTF

[AttackTurtle]

I just don’t get being ungracious in someone’s house.

I also don’t really get why Luanne bought a house in upstate New York when she has a house on the water in the Hamptons.  The house in upstate is beautiful, but I just don’t get it.  Her moaning that she drove all the way from upstate is kind of strange as I dont think there is much difference between the distance between Manhattan and the Berkshires and upstate and the Berkshires.  Upstate may be closer. (I live in western MA).

But really, Luanne just torched whatever  positive public sentiment she had when the season started.

Tinsley was beyond gracious reagarding the bedroom situation; however I would’ve loved to see how Bethenny would have responded in that discussion. I’m surprised Ramona wasn’t more vocal as she’s pretty defensive of Dorinda.

[Chit Chat]

I think that's the most I've heard Tinsley talk about herself and how she feels.  The ladies might've thought they were helping her, but instead they sounded like her mother.  Nag, nag, nag.  Tinsley has some self-esteem issues to work through, so I hope she's getting some therapy for that.  I can't imagine how emotionally affected she was by the boyfriend in Florida who beat her. 

[CSunshine76]

I don’t know why Dorinda continues to invite these harpies to her home.  I cannot imagine treating ANYONE’s home like that.  You invited me, show me where to stay and I will make the most of it.  LuAnne was an entitled bitch, but they were all awful conversing about which room they wanted.  The hostess should show you to your room and you take it.

[Chit Chat]

How fitting.  I see where there is a type fish called Aholehole.  LuAnn certainly behaved like one.  

https://www.britannica.com/animal/aholehole

Edited April 4, 2019 by ChitChat

[AuntieDiane6]

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I usually love everything Bethenny wears but that dress was a tragedy! 

I thought it was her Halloween costume for the Berkshires.

[farmgal4]

1 hour ago, nexxie said:

Something’s off with Scott and Tinsley.

Personally, I think Scott is bi.

[Dance4Life]

Sonja always has the best dogs.  Her poodles are always the most beautiful and fluffiest!

Hi, I am Tinsley.....I only want to do charity work......You know,........with other rich people.......because, I am hoping to become a Socialite.....like, again! Thank you.

Her mom hates ....that Tinsley has no husband hustle.

[Bronzedog]

Between psychotic rages, Dorinda really does try to make it nice for these women.  I would have given up years ago.

[SailorGirl]

I may be reading more into this simply because I love the Tinz, but I gained new respect for her this week. She definitely seems much calmer than last season when she was playing up the little girl nonsense for Scott. She's standing up to her mother and putting some of the blame for Scott's hesitance on Dale -- exactly where it belongs. As well, based on what she said, she isn't basing her life decisions waiting for Scott to figure out what he wants. She said as much -- for what she wants in her life and rebuilding her brand, New York is where she needs to be. While she didn't flat out say this, it certainly came across that she was clear she was not going to give up on what she wanted/is trying to do to get to the place where she feels happy, because of a guy -- a mistake she made in the past with that Nico asshole. Good for her for sticking up for what she feels is right for her, even if it means not as much time with, or as we know now, not having Scott in her life. She chose herself over a rich guy simply because he fit Dale's picture of how Tinsley's life should be. The best thing for Tinsley is to spend some time far away from Dale and keep standing up to her bullshit when she is around her. 

She was really cute emceeing the Strut Your Mutt fashion show -- she seemed very natural and you could see her "old self" as a philanthropist coming out. And anyone supporting Best Friends, or any animal rescue organization, is high on my list of good people. Sounds like she used to be really involved with animal rescue in her "IT GIRL" days. Good on her for wanting that back and being genuinely committed to giving back -- that is a class act, Ms. Mortimer. 

I feel like she's grown up a lot -- maybe through the show she saw how much she was still playing up the Eloise at the Plaza little girl schtick and realized it wasn't a good look for a (then) 42 year old woman of her wealth and social standing. She may not be where she once was, but she's still someone.

She may not be high drama, but she adds a lot to the show. And her clothes! The leather shorts with the stockings and booties? She rocked that look! And I think it was when she was going into the doctor's office to get botox for her TMJ, we got the flash of the red bottom of her shoes -- the signature Louboutin shoe bottom. Tinz is classy (real) money, not Sonja tacky (fake) money. 

Someone needs to stick a pin in the Macy's parade balloon-size ego on Lu. She needs to get over herself. Not a good look! 

Edited April 4, 2019 by SailorGirl

[JennyMominFL]

1 hour ago, pieinmyeye said:

What in the Little House on the Prairie is Beth wearing? OTOH, I thought Sonja looked fabulous at the dog fashion show.

When I was in the 10th grade I was in a production of the Music Man. The costumes came and I got stuck wearing a hideous orange dress that looked like a long version of Bethanny”s dress. I had bad flashbacks looking at her dress 

[Maire]

LuAnn needs a drink real bad. I bet she’s mad with everyone drinking in front of her and I kind of don’t blame her.

[Dance4Life]

Tinsley is Kelly Bensimon. 

(Except, Kelly managed to pop out 2 kids)

They are a very pretty package but hard to read. 

They seemed like the type of women that get very clingy and dependent on a man.

 They offer nothing back but a pretty face.  They think it is cute to surround themselves with shoes and handbags.  They take pride in not knowing how to cook or clean.

They wait around for the man.

Pretty much a Carrie Bradshaw type! 

We ALL know what happened to  Carrie.  Nada!  Nothing! Zip!

Didn’t Carrie start to hang out in her old apartment???

(Kelly and Tinsley seemed like lloronas and angry drunks)

[absolutelyido]

1 hour ago, chewycandy said:

Can we trade Dale for Melinda?

I would like to trade Barbara for Melinda.

1 hour ago, Mindthinkr said:

First Lu wants a yoga lesson on a Wednesday. Now she wants a massage. She is treating Dorinda’s as if it is some kind of hotel. Entitled much? 

Yes, much!

1 hour ago, AttackTurtle said:

Welp.  Luanne took five episodes to be truly unbearable. Wow.  Maybe she needs to start drinking again.  Who the fuck asks a host to provide a yoga instructor/masseuse in their home?  Damn.  

Didnt Luanne get annoyed when Sonja wanted a blender in the Hamptons?

Way to hurt Dorinda’s feelings about the shark room.  Team Dorinda.

Blue Stone Manor is a beautiful home but, IMO, some of the decor is a bit questionable, including the shark room. But Dorinda decorated it to her taste. As Sonja told Luann, Dorinda doesn't know that they all think the shark room is tacky. She's not giving it to Luann as some sort of booby prize. Dorinda thinks its a fine room to host one of her guests. To say you don't want to stay there is flat out saying to Dorinda that she has bad taste. And after asking for a yoga instructor and masseuse! Money can't buy you class indeed.

I do wonder why Dorinda didn't give Barbara the shark room. Based upon how her home was decorated, Barbara probably would love it.

ETA: If you are invited to someone's country home for a girls weekend and want to have a yoga instructor and a masseuse, it seems to me the classy way to do it would be to say: Hey, Dorinda. I don't know what you have planned for us, but if it would fit in with your plans I would like to arrange and pay for a yoga instructor and massages for the girls. Would that be OK with you?

Edited April 4, 2019 by absolutelyido
Adding an additional thought.

[JennyMominFL]

50 minutes ago, bosawks said:

Ah, I sea, she doesn’t want to flounder.

But she doesn’t have to carp about it.

She was awful poissonate about it!

[breezy424]

Enough with Beth's therapy sessions.  Dennis told her he was going to live the rest of his life alone.  But he asks Beth to marry him.  Beth gets a ring.  She keeps it but she knows they would never be together.  She reveals the ring after he dies.  WTF?  Yeah Beth.  You need serious therapy but not on national TV.  I don't need to know about how you want a family.  Maybe you have to figure out what you've been doing wrong all your life and I'm not interested in it.

Alright.  I find the fish room a little scary.  I have a thing about fish.  And if there was a stuffed catfish in the room, I'd be off to a hotel.  But I wouldn't be all ungracious like Lu.  Dorinda should hand Lu a bill, just like she did Beth when Lu invited her to go surfing in the Hamptons.

I loved the decorations in the Berzerkshires.  It such a great holiday house.

God, that lunch was such a gang up on Tins.  You want to express your concerns to Tins, do it one on one.

No Babs tonight.  Yay!

[hoodooznoodooz]

Wow. This past year has really aged Beth.

[goofygirl]

Wow! Old Lu really showed everyone her COUNTESS-ness at Dorinda's!  Think they ALL act like that in someone's home? Where's my crown you pissant!

[Dance4Life]

Last season they went to the spa.  A really nice one with the huge crystals.....eh???

Lu can just go there.  Or, she can use Yelp like the rest of us! 

Who does she think she is.........?????

ETA.......WTF???   Now she is complaining about a room?  In Dorinda’s house??? 

Last time she also wanted the Royal Suite because she was getting married or some shit! 

Lu! GTFOH!  If I was Dorinda I would leave a blanket and a pillow on the front porch for her.

FCk Lu!

Edited April 4, 2019 by Dance4Life

[njbchlover]

10 minutes ago, Maire said:

LuAnn needs a drink real bad. I bet she’s mad with everyone drinking in front of her and I kind of don’t blame her.

If that's the case, then Luann should have taken a year off from the show to get her shit together and learn how to deal with that.  I understand that it's difficult for a newly sober person to be around alcohol and people drinking, but she is the one who re-upped to do another season.

Luann knows, just as we do, that this show and all of the RH shows revolve around the women drinking and hopefully, getting tipsy/drunk and doing something stupid, as she, herself, has done more times than we can count.  

If Luann can't deal with the basics of her "job" while dealing with her own sobriety issues, she should have taken a leave of absence.

[KungFuBunny]

1 hour ago, dosodog said:

RHONY provides me with at least one episode of free grief counseling every season.  It's weirdly comforting. 

But more importantly!  The Berkshires! Maybe not tonight.  But it's coming!  Oh how I love the Berkshires. It's always done so nice!

 

For a second I thought that was Scott impersonating Tinsley

[njbchlover]

nm

Edited April 4, 2019 by njbchlover

[Dance4Life]

Lu doesn’t have to worry about any hangovers this year.....riiight???

Lu should just take Hannah’s room tonight.

This is why she got arrested.  She snuck into a hotel room to FCK a stranger.

ahhahahaha!

Okay! WTF is going on?

Everyone reverting back to their old characters for Halloween!

We got.....

Countess De Lesseps 

Lady Morgan

La Llorona Bethenny

Mrs. High Society Mortimer 

That House.....I dunno.  It is got some Juju Power!

[geauxaway]

1 hour ago, twilightzone said:

This.  She also just went on national TV and told the world that Dennis killed himself over her. Now his children have to hear that while they grieve. Literally nothing is sacred to this woman. 

Oh , but Bryn misses him!  FFS!  

Oh, and then B gives Tinsley marriage material advice for real??  Because question #1 AT ALL TIMES should be “are you married?”  

Edited April 4, 2019 by geauxaway

[KungFuBunny]

2 hours ago, nexxie said:

Something’s off with Scott and Tinsley.

I think Tinsley is still messed up from her relationship with Nico and I'm not sure she had enough therapy before jumping in to another relationship.

From the jump with both guys we saw Tinsley with Chad & Scott - she was the aggressor.

She presented herself to Scott as a party girl. She basically stuck her tongue down his throat without knowing much about him. She talked about how much she liked to drink (alcohol) and that her perfect vacation was to sit poolside somewhere hot and drink all day. This was all on her initial introduction to him.

Once she clamped onto Scott like a barnacle she probably brought up marriage and babies - I think that is why he and Tinsley have broken up so many times.

She even mentioned it last season - when she and Scott were on a break - she wanted to be the girl he fell in love with again - Party Girl.

I think she wants a man more than a baby.

Edited April 4, 2019 by KungFuBunny

[KungFuBunny]

2 hours ago, Straycat80 said:

I usually love everything Bethenny wears but that dress was a tragedy! 

I had to re-watch stupid phone call interrupticus.  At some point the ladies got cold and Sonja had a white terry robe something and Bethenny had a gray shawl. On the first watch - I thought she suddenly slipped on a hoodie underneath the orange dress.

PS - it was Fugly

[Bronzedog]

I remember, I think last season, right after Luann got married, they went on a trip to maybe Mexico (?) and Luann got the room in the basement and she felt since she was newly married she should have been given the best room.  She bitched about the room the whole time and acted like she was staying in a tent with a pee jar.  I would tell her that from now on she needs to make her own reservations somewhere nearby.  Bitch.

[KungFuBunny]

1 hour ago, Mindthinkr said:

First Lu wants a yoga lesson on a Wednesday. Now she wants a massage. She is treating Dorinda’s as if it is some kind of hotel. Entitled much? 

Or Spa-hab

I hope Dorinda throws a baloney sandwich at her - infused with mustard packettes

[rustyspigot]

13 minutes ago, geauxaway said:

This.  She also just went on national TV and told the world that Dennis killed himself over her. Now his children have to hear that while they grieve. Literally nothing is sacred to this woman.

But, the ex wife gets to pay for the funeral and Bethenny has nothing! That was quite the scene with the grief counselor she just met that looked like he performs in a Journey coverband on the side.

[swankie]

1 hour ago, Mindthinkr said:

First Lu wants a yoga lesson on a Wednesday. Now she wants a massage. She is treating Dorinda’s as if it is some kind of hotel. Entitled much? 

Why does LuAnn think Dorinda needs to cater to her every need?  She's so damned disrespectful and entitled it's pathetic.  And then she throws a full blown temper tantrum because she got the shark room.  Bitch, you're lucky to even be invited...PERIOD!!! 

[Dance4Life]

Just now, Bronzedog said:

I remember, I think last season, right after Luann got married, they went on a trip to maybe Mexico (?) and Luann got the room in the basement and she felt since she was newly married she should have been given the best room.  She bitched about the room the whole time and acted like she was staying in a tent with a pee jar.  I would tell her that from now on she needs to make her own reservations somewhere nearby.  Bitch.

Ramona was laughing but she did the same at Heathers.  There was no A/C.....but, Heather bought one for her.....she still bitched.

I think the only that honestly rolls with the punches is Sonja.

[LilaFowler]

SO... the last pic on Dorinda's post -- Bethenny crying? lmao!

[KungFuBunny]

1 hour ago, Bronzedog said:

I’m such a loser I don’t even understand what’s wrong with sleeping in the fish room.

How horrible is Luann for trashing a room in Dorinda’s house?  I would have told her to stay in a hotel.

I think Luann was horrible to Tinsley when Tinsley said I'll take the Fish room and explained the original assignment.

Add me to the Loser Club - I don't think there's anything wrong with the fish room

[heavysnaxx]

2 hours ago, whydoievencare said:

So, Bethenny and Dennis were engaged, but she met this other guy before Dennis died and THEN things heated up AFTER Dennis died.  Just how fucking engaged were they?  She's incredible.  

I swear B is making it up as she goes along.

Image description: An image of Jan Brady, scrambling to prove she has boyfriend. "His name is George. George Glass."

1 hour ago, Bronzedog said:

I’m such a loser I don’t even understand what’s wrong with sleeping in the fish room.

How horrible is Luann for trashing a room in Dorinda’s house?  I would have told her to stay in a hotel.

Cripes, if it had been my fish room and Luann acted like that, I'd have gotten Google Maps out and texted her the route to the nearest police station - accommodations she's put up with before. Her choice.

Was it Dorinda's house where, when Lu arrived late, she got all miffed because they didn't save her the nicest room? Which, according to Luann Logic (sic), she OBVIOUSLY deserved as an engaged woman?

[Dance4Life]

7 minutes ago, rustyspigot said:

But, the ex wife gets to pay for the funeral and Bethenny has nothing! That was quite the scene with the grief counselor she just met that looked like he performs in a Journey coverband on the side.

La Llorona was mourning the fact that he probably didn’t give her a penny.

What was his deal......anyways???

How did he die?

Edited April 4, 2019 by Dance4Life