"The View": Week Of 2/4/2019

[TheGreenKnight]

I saw during the commercial break that Freddie Highmore will be on the show next week. Looking forward to it, love him.

[ari333]

I missed all of you while the site was offline. 🙂

[nokat]

8 minutes ago, ari333 said:

I missed all of you while the site was offline. 🙂

I was having PTV withdrawal.  :)  I turned on the TV to watch Ana on the View and it was still Kelly and Ryan. So missed Friday's show.  I usually read here to see if I missed anything.

 

[Haleth]

Missed you all on Thurs and Fri!

Abby's interview  girl talk with Ivanka was terrible.  What a waste of time.

It was cringworthy that Sunny continued to throw shade on B Smith's husband for bringing his gf into the home.  The Today Show did a segment on the topic and interviewed their daughter who is mad as hell at people criticizing her dad for doing this.  She's furious that so called "friends" (like Sunny) haven't bothered to pick up the phone or drop in to see how her mom is doing, yet they judge her dad for needing help and support in this awful situation.  So shut up, Sunny, with your pearl clutching and "disrespect."

Edited February 9, 2019 by Haleth

[Badbea99]

NutMeg outdid herself this past week as she never fails to find a way to insert her father and his cancer into any conversation.  I was mortified when she mentioned to B Smith's husband her family would have revolted if her mother had shown up with a boyfriend as her father battled cancer.  She also chose to berate him for showing video of his wife and mentioned her family guarded her father's privacy at all costs.  She has such a judgmental way of expressing herself with such an air of superiority.  

Yesterday, when the Jeff Bezos discussion was taking place she went on a rant about why she never took naked pictures of herself (but everyone does it according to her) since she was a daughter of a politician and her father would have died of a heart attack or stroke "if he didn't die of cancer".  There was no need to mention the cause of her father's death.  

I also found her comment about her Nana - "she sleeps in Chanel" -  beyond condescending.  

Very happy the forum is up and running.  I missed the daily dose of snark the past couple of days. I like the new look.

[Tosia]

In reference to MM's fake slam at Joy for her mention that terms like feminism and socialism have been bastardized by the Repubs, I wished Joy would have asked MM to explain, "what is the difference between rightwing and conservative? "

I looked it up on Google and did not get much of an answer,  and I didn't care to study it.  

I doubt MM explain it either.  

[General Days]

8 hours ago, Marigny said:

Ah-bee's interview with Ivanka was so softball.

8 hours ago, bannana said:

It was embarrassing.  Ah-bee is the dotter of the Ambassador appointed by Trump.  Great choice to have her interview Ivanka.

It was journalistic malpractice. I'm serious. How can the daughter of the current US Ambassador to Russia, talk to the daughter of the "POTUS" about the Russia investigation for a show that falls under the umbrella of the ABC news division? Also, did I space on it, or did Abby NOT offer a disclaimer about her father's current position in the Trump misadministration?

2 hours ago, Haleth said:

Missed you all on Thurs and Fri!

Abby's interview  girl talk with Ivanka was terrible.  What a waste of time.

It was cringworthy that Sunny continued to throw shade on B Smith's husband for bringing his gf into the home.  The Today Show did a segment on the topic and interviewed their daughter who is mad as hell at people criticizing her dad for doing this.  She's furious that so called "friends" (like Sunny) haven't bothered to pick up the phone or drop in to see how her mom is doing, yet they judge her dad for needing help and support in this awful situation.  So shut up, Sunny, with your pearl clutching and "disrespect."

I didn't watch the whole interview with B Smith's husband. I can't remember now if it was pre-empted for some local coverage, if I just got busy and didn't watch, or if it was too sad for me to take in (I've got real life stuff going on -- nothing to do with Alzheimers, but it's family health related and it is just hard to be in my head right now).
 

B Smith's situation is so tragic. I understand why the husband having his girlfriend in B's house drives people crazy. I also think I wouldn't want to be in his shoes for all the money in the world, and that Sunny's objection had more to do with the fact that he's not hiding his new relationship, than that he's having one.

Alzheimer's steals the person and leaves behind the beloved shell. I can only begin to imagine the way I would feel if my husband were here and needed my daily care, but didn't remember me or US. 

Sunny's scary jealous though. I got a little nauseated during Friday's Glenn Close segment, when she went on about how Fatal Attraction is her favorite film, and how she identifies with Alex (Close's character).

I got (understood and even agreed with) Close's comments that it would be interesting to see the story from Alex's POV. Dan (the Michael Douglas character) did use and discard her, but I don't think Sunny was really talking about it from any kind of sane mindset. Watch your step, Manny. Just watch your step. My word. 

[PeterBrady]

3 hours ago, Tosia said:

In reference to MM's fake slam at Joy for her mention that terms like feminism and socialism have been bastardized by the Repubs, I wished Joy would have asked MM to explain, "what is the difference between rightwing and conservative? "

I looked it up on Google and did not get much of an answer,  and I didn't care to study it.  

I doubt MM explain it either.  

The term right wing used to mean conservative. It has now been bastardized to mean radical, racist nutjob. I'm pretty sure that's what Meghan was talking about.

[HaaCHOO]

22 minutes ago, PeterBrady said:

The term right wing used to mean conservative. It has now been bastardized to mean radical, racist nutjob.

I agree (somewhat)...just as the term LIBERAL (dictionary definition: open to new behaviors or opinions and willing to discard traditions) is SPAT out by conservatives as people even worse than child molesters and feminists.

[MMEButterfly]

1 hour ago, General Days said:

It was journalistic malpractice. I'm serious. How can the daughter of the current US Ambassador to Russia, talk to the daughter of the "POTUS" about the Russia investigation for a show that falls under the umbrella of the ABC news division? Also, did I space on it, or did Abby NOT offer a disclaimer about her father's current position in the Trump misadministration?

I didn't watch the whole interview with B Smith's husband. I can't remember now if it was pre-empted for some local coverage, if I just got busy and didn't watch, or if it was too sad for me to take in (I've got real life stuff going on -- nothing to do with Alzheimers, but it's family health related and it is just hard to be in my head right now).
 

B Smith's situation is so tragic. I understand why the husband having his girlfriend in B's house drives people crazy. I also think I wouldn't want to be in his shoes for all the money in the world, and that Sunny's objection had more to do with the fact that he's not hiding his new relationship, than that he's having one.

Alzheimer's steals the person and leaves behind the beloved shell. I can only begin to imagine the way I would feel if my husband were here and needed my daily care, but didn't remember me or US. 

Sunny's scary jealous though. I got a little nauseated during Friday's Glenn Close segment, when she went on about how Fatal Attraction is her favorite film, and how she identifies with Alex (Close's character).

I got (understood and even agreed with) Close's comments that it would be interesting to see the story from Alex's POV. Dan (the Michael Douglas character) did use and discard her, but I don't think Sunny was really talking about it from any kind of sane mindset. Watch your step, Manny. Just watch your step. My word. 

While I was listening to B Smith's husband I thought about 3 different friends over recent years who lost a spouse to some form of dementia. In these three cases the spouse finally went to a care facility and fell in love with a fellow patient. The care giver spouse had to live with that reality, and very painful it was. The human heart reaches out under many circumstances. I believe his sharing is a helpful view to a complex relationship situation. Such views have value to us all. 

[HaaCHOO]

"HAMILTON"

SUNNY,  If you’re “soooooo Disappointed” in Lin-Manuel Miranda’s musical, “Hamilton,” why, after seeing the show at "least TEN TIMES," didn’t you bring up the subjects you’re so incensed about: slave ownership and treatment of Native Americans?  Why didn't you get up and walk out in protest because the show is a mockery of American history?  You should have brought your torment to the public the day after you saw the show the first time.

Did you expect to attend a Broadway musical that depicted several people in the history of the U.S. and learn everything about them…every aspect of their lives?  Just add another song?   Oh, yeah, that’s easy.  Just write the lyrics, compose the music.  What about introductory scenes?.  Just out of context Hamilton should start singing about how sorry he is that he “married into a family of slave owners," etc.  Then there's lighting...did you want a production number?

Don't forget the Cast Album.  Do we scrap the original...or just put out another with YOUR song(s) and hope people will buy it?  I'm sure Lin-Manuel would like your input on how to proceed when repairing his masterpiece.

Ana Navarro was spot on!  Instead of enjoying a fabulous musical production, read some history books, some college level text books…

From the Chicago Sun Times:  Ishmael Reed, who has been nominated twice for a National Book Award, has chosen to fight fire with fire — collecting his critique of Lin-Manuel Miranda’s acclaimed show into a play.  Reed’s “The Haunting of Lin-Manuel Miranda” is an uncompromising take-down of “Hamilton,” reminding viewers of the Founding Father’s complicity in slavery and his war on Native Americans.

Okay, Sunny, put your money where your mouth is.  Invest in Mr. Reed's play.  Doubt if you'll see any return on your investment.

(Guess I'm a little ticked about Sunny's very recent "insight")

Edited February 9, 2019 by HaaCHOO
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[MMEButterfly]

14 minutes ago, HaaCHOO said:

I agree (somewhat)...just as the term LIBERAL (dictionary definition: open to new behaviors or opinions and willing to discard traditions) is SPAT out by conservatives as people even worse than child molesters and feminists.

I was brought up to believe that "liberal" meant being open to the world as a marketplace of ideas. Conservative meant care for and protection of established views/ways/traditions. Both were neutral.. Most people are a mix of liberal and conservative according to the topic (religion/art/government/sexuality/etc.)

[HaaCHOO]

2 minutes ago, MMEButterfly said:

While I was listening to B Smith's husband I thought about 3 different friends over recent years who lost a spouse to some form of dementia. In these three cases the spouse finally went to a care facility and fell in love with a fellow patient.

That happened with the husband of our former Supreme Court Justice, Sandra Day O'Connor. She had resigned her appointment in order to take care of her husband and eventually he didn't know her. For awhile she visited her husband and his new love.  As Ana said, "Walk a mile...." 

[HaaCHOO]

On 2/6/2019 at 2:25 PM, longobongo said:

I was always so fearful of being exposed to someone with chicken pox (because a lot of times you don't even know you have it until many days into the disease) when I was pregnant with my kids. I don't think many people realize some of these lesser known facts.

And...when the vaccine did come even those kids who HAD had chicken pox were required to be vaccinated.  Disclaimer: in Arizona schools...until some anti-vax legislators changed the laws.  We're one of the idiot states now.

[bannana]

Soledad criticizes Abby's interview too

👏

[Medicine Crow]

4 minutes ago, bannana said:

Soledad criticizes Abby's interview too

👏

... and she was right!!!

[pinguina]

6 hours ago, General Days said:

B Smith's situation is so tragic. I understand why the husband having his girlfriend in B's house drives people crazy. I also think I wouldn't want to be in his shoes for all the money in the world, and that Sunny's objection had more to do with the fact that he's not hiding his new relationship, than that he's having one.

Alzheimer's steals the person and leaves behind the beloved shell. I can only begin to imagine the way I would feel if my husband were here and needed my daily care, but didn't remember me or US.

I think that a family/spouse does what they can when coping with a loved one having a Alzheimer's.  I don't agree with what B.'s husband is doing, but I also know that it is difficult to see someone who you loved losing their true self and the history of "us".  You love them, you care for them, and they have no idea who you are.  It is heartbreaking.  And sometimes you find solace in  activities, friends, and maybe in a new partner.  Not that you still don't love your spouse but you don't have the same relationship anymore.  You miss it.  So although I don't agree with what he is doing, I can't really criticize neither - he has gone through pain too - losing the person he loved - and should he not have love?

[HaaCHOO]

46 minutes ago, pinguina said:

So although I don't agree with what he is doing, I can't really criticize neither - he has gone through pain too - losing the person he loved - and should he not have love?

Not only does he have love, but he actually has physical help with his wife.  His wife probably can't carry on a conversation, but seeing the three of them sitting together for a meal (the wife in the middle) lets me know that there is conversation going on.  Maybe she can't participate, but it is some form of stimulation.  I'd like to hear the opinions of the other people in Sunny's household regarding life while her grandmother lived with them.  (Sunny can't be objective)

Edited February 9, 2019 by HaaCHOO

[HaaCHOO]

9 hours ago, Badbea99 said:

I also found her comment about her Nana - "she sleeps in Chanel" -  beyond condescending.  

And she hasn't a clue!    Some Nanas sleep in shelters for the homeless...if they're lucky.  

[merriebreeze]

I'm not so sure I believe Whoopi's excuse for her absence for the last few days, unless "under the weather' means laying low to avoid the backlash she's been getting because of Ted Danson's blackface and her opinion on B. Smith's husband going public.  Not a good week for her.

[GoldenGirl90]

I missed you all somethin' terrible during the updates! Glad to be back! :)

I have to go through all the comments later so forgive me if some of you already said this (I'm pretty sure many of you did) but that "interview" between Abby and Ivanka was trash. Yup - trash. Should've had Sunny interview her (Joy would've destroyed her). Too many conflicts of interest with Abby doing it.

[BodhiGurl]

11 hours ago, Haleth said:

Missed you all on Thurs and Fri!

Abby's interview  girl talk with Ivanka was terrible.  What a waste of time.

It was cringworthy that Sunny continued to throw shade on B Smith's husband for bringing his gf into the home.  The Today Show did a segment on the topic and interviewed their daughter who is mad as hell at people criticizing her dad for doing this.  She's furious that so called "friends" (like Sunny) haven't bothered to pick up the phone or drop in to see how her mom is doing, yet they judge her dad for needing help and support in this awful situation.  So shut up, Sunny, with your pearl clutching and "disrespect."

Agree on all your points 😉 I honestly don't understand why these nosey bishes think it's any of their bidness that B. Smith's husband has chosen to have a girlfriend while taking care of his ailing wife. At least he's not doing it on the DL and even if he was - still none of their biz. It may not be what they think they'd do or that they'd want their spouse to do but yeesh. Soooo judgemental! I actually thought his arrangement is probably very healthy. He needs support too. His wife that he loves is in the throws of dementia. Can't be easy. Would it be better for him to break? I also thought it was ridiculous how Sunny goes on and on about how B. Smith shouldn't be shown as her disease progresses. Hey Sunny - maybe it will help others! It's a fact of life - unfortunately some people will deal with dementia or other unforgiving illnesses. Oy. I get the show is about them talking about "hot topics" but sometimes they really go overboard with inserting their opinions as though they are everyone's truth - or should be everyone's truth. 

That fluff piece Abby tried to call an "exclusive interview" was beyond laughable. What a waste of time indeed.

So happy PTV is back online! ❤️ 

[rollacoaster]

I am so glad to be back with you guys! Squeeeeeeeee!

One thing that struck me during the Ivanka interview was how composed and calm she appeared. She has been well trained to promote the Trump family version of events. There were a couple of tells: before she answered one question, she visibly swallowed, before another the muscles tightened ever so slightly around her eyes. Of course these were questions about her dad and his shenanigans. Such a good soldier. 

[Litnit]

It sickens me to listen to "pro-life" people who are all about the sanctity of life, but don't think it's dignified to see pictures / video of people living with Alzheimer's. Nutmeg going on about how she doesn't want anyone to see her like that. Why not? Is all life not beautiful and full of an inherent God-given dignity? /puke

This man is caring for his wife, keeping her at home and around people. He has a right to companionship and love. 

[jumper sage]

13 hours ago, Haleth said:

Missed you all on Thurs and Fri!

Abby's interview  girl talk with Ivanka was terrible.  What a waste of time.

It was cringworthy that Sunny continued to throw shade on B Smith's husband for bringing his gf into the home.  The Today Show did a segment on the topic and interviewed their daughter who is mad as hell at people criticizing her dad for doing this.  She's furious that so called "friends" (like Sunny) haven't bothered to pick up the phone or drop in to see how her mom is doing, yet they judge her dad for needing help and support in this awful situation.  So shut up, Sunny, with your pearl clutching and "disrespect."

Missed you all too!

Abby should be embarrassed.

If Sunny really did live with her grandmother then she should know that at some point they don't even know you.  You are a stranger but they do like company to feel somewhat secure.  I think Sunny is projecting her anger at her grandfather.

10 hours ago, General Days said:

Sunny's scary jealous though. I got a little nauseated during Friday's Glenn Close segment, when she went on about how Fatal Attraction is her favorite film, and how she identifies with Alex (Close's character).

YIKES!

[HaaCHOO]

On 2/9/2019 at 6:29 AM, Badbea99 said:

 I was mortified when she mentioned to B Smith's husband her family would have revolted if her mother had shown up with a boyfriend as her father battled cancer.  She also chose to berate him for showing video of his wife and mentioned her family guarded her father's privacy at all costs.  She has such a judgmental way of expressing herself with such an air of superiority.  

Meghan McCain was sickening!  It's one thing for her to inflict her opinions on everything to us,...but to blast it on television in a man's face...a man who is obviously grief-stricken and trying his best--why didn't she just stab him?  It would have been kinder.  Also, what was so HORRIBLE about Beverly Adams' appearance?  Is everyone required to be in full hair and make-up 24/7, no matter their circumstances or health?   Apparently Meghan McCain will be the arbiter of all American behavior as long as she has a platform.  Sunny too, in this instance.

Edited February 10, 2019 by HaaCHOO

[HaaCHOO]

The discussion of "dick picks," and the hubbub surrounding Jeff Bezos, Meghan pontificated, "Since I was the most recent person to date, people send naked photos a lot."   It's an odd sentence, but it's hers.  Meghan...Ana Navarro was with the same man for years.  Now she's newly engaged to a different man.  Obviously some DATING went on recently.  Perhaps you are NOT the most recent person (at the table) to "date."

Edited February 10, 2019 by HaaCHOO

[maggiemae]

MM does not understand dementia is not terminal. As Nancy Reagan said it can be the "long goodbye." I thought she was horrid in her comment about her mother bringing another man into her home.

My own father suffered from dementia and I was the only one that stood by him - it was awful......but fortunately he died of other causes before I needed to "lock him up" in his assisted living floor 1 mile from my home. He was 86. He knew exactly what was happening and going to happen. 

[Natalie68]

13 hours ago, Haleth said:

Missed you all on Thurs and Fri!

Abby's interview  girl talk with Ivanka was terrible.  What a waste of time.

It was cringworthy that Sunny continued to throw shade on B Smith's husband for bringing his gf into the home.  The Today Show did a segment on the topic and interviewed their daughter who is mad as hell at people criticizing her dad for doing this.  She's furious that so called "friends" (like Sunny) haven't bothered to pick up the phone or drop in to see how her mom is doing, yet they judge her dad for needing help and support in this awful situation.  So shut up, Sunny, with your pearl clutching and "disrespect."

I have feelings about the B Smith story.  My mom was terminally ill and my father had a gf.  Actually a couple of them.  I didn't like meeting the GF nor did I like knowing about it.  I didn't begrudge him a life but it needed to be kept on the down low in my opinion.  My mom knew and it upset her.  With B I am not sure what she does and does not understand and it seems like he is loving with her and I wasn't as angry about it once I heard the interview.  As long as the B is cared for and the daughter is good that is all that matters.  What is sad is my dad's gf ended up abusing him, stealing everything he had, and blocked us from his life until he died.  She graciously allowed us 1 hour with him 4 days before he passed.  I hope this man has a better picker than my dad.  

I could not listen to the Ivanka interview.  I also think that IF they were going to show one, have someone do it whose father wasn't hired by him.

[HaaCHOO]

I am the mother of boys (middle-aged men today).  Decades ago I read an article explaining that little boys are fascinated with their penises as soon as they can see them.  My father dumped us when I was eight years old and I grew up in a household of four women--led by an extremely modest and religious mother.  I didn't see an adult penis until after the marriage ceremony...and I didn't really want to see one.  I hoped to have only daughters so I wouldn't have to "deal with" penises.  AND THEN I HAD SONS.

That one article helped me understand the love of men for "their junk."  They have magical little gadgets that can do wondrous things.  They are in love with that organ all their lives and probably can't understand why most women don't yearn to see those miracles...All. The. Time   I decided to take that as a lesson in physiology, human behavior, and empathy.  I would learn to Love the Penis...or appreciate it.  I had to change diapers, potty-train, raise gentlemen, etc. (on my own starting at their ages 9 and 11).

Sunny opined (as most women I've heard), "Why do men think their junk is so attractive?" Abby:  What woman wants that?  It's time to stop asking the questions in that manner.  We're NOT men; we don't know.  Men fell in love with that part of their body when they were little boys. Sunny's face went through every example of disgust when she was discussing the topic.  Does she remember she has a husband and son at home?  Can her doctor-husband sit her down and explain a man's point of view? 

I can understand that we don't want to receive unsolicited photos of male genitalia.   Don't Sunny and Abby* realize how cruel they sound to every male?  It wouldn't have been as bad if Sunny's facial expressions weren't the epitome of revulsion.

Men are little boys enchanted with their favorite body part.  They want us to feel the same way.  Nothing's going to change.

*Joy, Ana, and Meghan didn't really add to the attacks.

Edited February 10, 2019 by HaaCHOO
AND THEN I HAD SONS.

[HaaCHOO]

Back to the "displaying" male body part discussion...

• Male body part: Joy tried to explain that "men are visual."
• Male body part: Meghan said with a grin, "I don't know.  I don't mind it on occasion."
• Joy and Meghan both laughed.

[HaaCHOO]

14 hours ago, General Days said:

Sunny's scary jealous though. I got a little nauseated during Friday's Glenn Close segment, when she went on about how Fatal Attraction is her favorite film, and how she identifies with Alex (Close's character).

This, General Days, is perfection.  Your first three words are an understatement!  Manny probably sleeps with one eye open and a weapon nearby.

14 hours ago, General Days said:

It was journalistic malpractice. I'm serious. How can the daughter of the current US Ambassador to Russia, talk to the daughter of the "POTUS" about the Russia investigation for a show that falls under the umbrella of the ABC news division? Also, did I space on it, or did Abby NOT offer a disclaimer about her father's current position in the Trump misadministration?

Did Abby BEG to do this interview and promise the producers (and complaining viewers) will see what a talent she is?  Did everyone rush to watch the rest of the interview on ABC-whatever.dot.com?   Every day in every way the people who bring us this show insult us more and worse!

[tinkerbell]

16 hours ago, Badbea99 said:

NutMeg outdid herself this past week as she never fails to find a way to insert her father and his cancer into any conversation.  I was mortified when she mentioned to B Smith's husband her family would have revolted if her mother had shown up with a boyfriend as her father battled cancer.  She also chose to berate him for showing video of his wife and mentioned her family guarded her father's privacy at all costs.  She has such a judgmental way of expressing herself with such an air of superiority.  

ANd she doesn't understand the difference!  John McCain was battling end-stage cancer when he went to the Senate floor and VOTED on a bill.  He stayed mentally active and engaged,  until shortly before he died. IF his wife had shown up with a boyfriend - HE WOULD HAVE OBJECTED, not his family, because he was aware of his surroundings.

  It's ridiculous that she can make the comparison, the two situations are not at all similar. 

[RedheadZombie]

22 hours ago, Haleth said:

Missed you all on Thurs and Fri!

Abby's interview  girl talk with Ivanka was terrible.  What a waste of time.

It was cringworthy that Sunny continued to throw shade on B Smith's husband for bringing his gf into the home.  The Today Show did a segment on the topic and interviewed their daughter who is mad as hell at people criticizing her dad for doing this.  She's furious that so called "friends" (like Sunny) haven't bothered to pick up the phone or drop in to see how her mom is doing, yet they judge her dad for needing help and support in this awful situation.  So shut up, Sunny, with your pearl clutching and "disrespect."

I'm torn on the topic.  I wonder if people would feel differently if this were a woman moving her lover into the home of her Alzheimer's spouse.  It's typically the wives who are caregivers in this scenario, and they typically do it without their lover taking care of their husband.  These wives are long-suffering, and I've never heard one complain that they deserve to be happy and find romantic love while their husband still lives.  

[Cementhead]

My husband told me about the Ivanka interview before I knew about it because he had seen clips of it online.  I asked him who interviewed her and he said "I don't know who it was, some nobody I have never seen before."  Hee.  So then when I saw it was Abby I explained to him that she was one of the very important Father's Daughters from The View.  And how the other My Father's Daughter got her the gig.  And how her father works for Trump.  Yeah. 

As far as the "interview" went, and I am using giant air quotes there, Zzzzzz.  I also cannot stand to watch Ivanka speak anymore.  That act of hers is beyond old at this point.  I have lots of things I want to say about it but will just say, nails on a chalkboard to me. 

[blondiec0332]

2 hours ago, Cementhead said:

My husband told me about the Ivanka interview before I knew about it because he had seen clips of it online.  I asked him who interviewed her and he said "I don't know who it was, some nobody I have never seen before."  Hee.  So then when I saw it was Abby I explained to him that she was one of the very important Father's Daughters from The View.  And how the other My Father's Daughter got her the gig.  And how her father works for Trump.  Yeah. 

As far as the "interview" went, and I am using giant air quotes there, Zzzzzz.  I also cannot stand to watch Ivanka speak anymore.  That act of hers is beyond old at this point.  I have lots of things I want to say about it but will just say, nails on a chalkboard to me. 

Ivanka seems way to poised.   She didn't show any emotion and thinks way too highly of herself.   She said if you hear her speak out it's because she isn't being heard privately. She is Trump's daughter.  What makes her think her voice is any more important than people with actual policy experience?

Edited February 10, 2019 by blondiec0332

[Apprentice79]

18 hours ago, merriebreeze said:

I'm not so sure I believe Whoopi's excuse for her absence for the last few days, unless "under the weather' means laying low to avoid the backlash she's been getting because of Ted Danson's blackface and her opinion on B. Smith's husband going public.  Not a good week for her.

Why are people attacking Whoopie ? Can you please spill the tea? Whoopie does not react well to criticism. She gets nasty and defensive. I expect she will be bloviating on Monday.

On ‎2‎/‎9‎/‎2019 at 10:44 AM, General Days said:

Sunny's scary jealous though. I got a little nauseated during Friday's Glenn Close segment, when she went on about how Fatal Attraction is her favorite film, and how she identifies with Alex (Close's character).

Sunny is very jealous. I remember she said that she threw a fit over a nurse who baked Manny a cake for his birthday. She threw the cake in the garbage.  She is very insecure, she has also admitted to going to sleep in makeup. Yet, she has publicly stated that she would not leave Manny if he were to cheat on her.  Sunny is a mix bag like all of us. I really did not appreciate her attitude with B Smith's husband. My only problem with him is why did he have to go public and tell the world about his unconventional life it is nobody's business. He should have expected pushback from people. I found his defensiveness off-putting..

[rcc]

1 hour ago, Apprentice79 said:

Why are people attacking Whoopie ? Can you please spill the tea? Whoopie does not react well to criticism. She gets nasty and defensive. I expect she will be bloviating on Monday.

Sunny is very jealous. I remember she said that she threw a fit over a nurse who baked Manny a cake for his birthday. She threw the cake in the garbage.  She is very insecure, she has also admitted to going to sleep in makeup. Yet, she has publicly stated that she would not leave Manny if he were to cheat on her.  Sunny is a mix bag like all of us. I really did not appreciate her attitude with B Smith's husband. My only problem with him is why did he have to go public and tell the world about his unconventional life it is nobody's business. He should have expected pushback from people. I found his defensiveness off-putting..

Well said.

[deirdra]

They could have also shown Whoopi's appearance in whiteface at the 1999 Oscars.

I agree that B Smith's husband should have kept the affair to himself.  

[JakeyJokes]

I really liked the Cardi B discussion. Abby was vulnerable talking about post-partum and Ana said you can't be counseled to fall in love again. It was rather poignant. (And I'm a nerd about this stuff, but Cardi B is a Libra with an Aries moon, which means if she makes a decision it is FINAL. This is why I couldn't be on a panel show)

[merriebreeze]

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[JAYJAY1979]

3 hours ago, Apprentice79 said:

Why are people attacking Whoopie ? Can you please spill the tea? Whoopie does not react well to criticism. She gets nasty and defensive. I expect she will be bloviating on Monday.

Sunny is very jealous. I remember she said that she threw a fit over a nurse who baked Manny a cake for his birthday. She threw the cake in the garbage.  She is very insecure, she has also admitted to going to sleep in makeup. Yet, she has publicly stated that she would not leave Manny if he were to cheat on her.  Sunny is a mix bag like all of us. I really did not appreciate her attitude with B Smith's husband. My only problem with him is why did he have to go public and tell the world about his unconventional life it is nobody's business. He should have expected pushback from people. I found his defensiveness off-putting..

I still remember the story Sunny told when Manny hung up on her, and she went over to his place.. took all his phones and threw them out in the freeway explaining if he didn't have phone etiquette, he didn't deserve to have a phone.  I'm not sure if this happened before they got married or not.. but if it happened before they got married.. and he still married her than had children with her... I have no sympathy for him.  We're all raised to look at red flags when it comes to men, but very rarely are we raised to look at red flags when it comes to women.

[Orillia]

4 hours ago, blondiec0332 said:

She is Trump's daughter.  What makes her think her voice is any more important than people with actual policy experience?

Change that Trump to McCain and it would be equally true. 

[Coffeewinewater]

16 hours ago, HaaCHOO said:

This, General Days, is perfection.  Your first three words are an understatement!  Manny probably sleeps with one eye open and a weapon nearby.

Did Abby BEG to do this interview and promise the producers (and complaining viewers) will see what a talent she is?  Did everyone rush to watch the rest of the interview on ABC-whatever.dot.com?   Every day in every way the people who bring us this show insult us more and worse!

I didnt watch the interview,  I don't need to hear Ivanka act like cares or knows a damn thing. She has shown me who she is, I got it. Abby's interview isn't changing anything. It does makes more sense now, Abby's behavior.  She has seemed to  go out of her way to stick up for the Trumps in the last couple weeks. 

[HaaCHOO]

7 minutes ago, Coffeewinewater said:

It does makes more sense now, Abby's behavior.  She has seemed to  go out of her way to stick up for the Trumps in the last couple weeks. 

Didn't Abby say when she was new to the show that she and her husband are friendly with Jared and Ivanka?   Also, Abby's hair was NOT SHINY during her interview (Oh, No!)...and both women needed a light hair-brushing (in the back) before going on air (tee hee).

[TheGreenKnight]

About the interview with the man whose wife has Alzheimer's, it was very uncomfortable because it felt like two friends talking about his actions towards another friend rather than one stranger to another. You could tell when he was first talking about criticism he'd received, he was thinking also of what Sunny said on The View earlier in the week.

While I'm not sure I agree with Sunny entirely here, I will give her that she isn't a coward who says things about somebody and then smiles silently when they're actually guests on the show. Like her, one of the closest people in my life had Alzheimer's and I'm sensitive about adultery, too (although not crazy jealous the way she is). I understand her point and agree with her that it's worth knowing if his wife said she would be okay with this type of an arrangement while she was still lucid. I personally think I would rather be in a nursing home than living with my significant other and his new side piece, even if I was past the point of recognizing that's what's going on 100% of the time.

[Marigny]

On 2/9/2019 at 9:44 AM, General Days said:

It was journalistic malpractice. I'm serious. How can the daughter of the current US Ambassador to Russia, talk to the daughter of the "POTUS" about the Russia investigation for a show that falls under the umbrella of the ABC news division? Also, did I space on it, or did Abby NOT offer a disclaimer about her father's current position in the Trump misadministration?

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I agree completely. Something tells me Ivanka wouldn't agree to do the interview unless Ah-bee was the one conducting it. Anyone else would have held her feet to the fire, including Meghan. 

[JakeyJokes]

On 2/9/2019 at 11:10 AM, HaaCHOO said:

I agree (somewhat)...just as the term LIBERAL (dictionary definition: open to new behaviors or opinions and willing to discard traditions) is SPAT out by conservatives as people even worse than child molesters and feminists.

But that's what Joy even said to Abby, and why I missed these forums, because her original comment to her was.nothing short of masterful (something like "Every time you say 'socialist' I will say something, because it's turning into the same word like 'liberal' or 'feminist'"). Of course MM took the bait and when Joy challenged her to contribute an equal word, we saw the wheels spin before "right wing".

[nokat]

On Saturday, February 09, 2019 at 7:09 PM, HaaCHOO said:

I am the mother of boys (middle-aged men today).  Decades ago I read an article explaining that little boys are fascinated with their penises as soon as they can see them.  My father dumped us when I was eight years old and I grew up in a household of four women--led by an extremely modest and religious mother.  I didn't see an adult penis until after the marriage ceremony...and I didn't really want to see one.  I hoped to have only daughters so I wouldn't have to "deal with" penises.  AND THEN I HAD SONS.

That one article helped me understand the love of men for "their junk."  They have magical little gadgets that can do wondrous things.  They are in love with that organ all their lives and probably can't understand why most women don't yearn to see those miracles...All. The. Time   I decided to take that as a lesson in physiology, human behavior, and empathy.  I would learn to Love the Penis...or appreciate it.  I had to change diapers, potty-train, raise gentlemen, etc. (on my own starting at their ages 9 and 11).

Sunny opined (as most women I've heard), "Why do men think their junk is so attractive?" Abby:  What woman wants that?  It's time to stop asking the questions in that manner.  We're NOT men; we don't know.  Men fell in love with that part of their body when they were little boys. Sunny's face went through every example of disgust when she was discussing the topic.  Does she remember she has a husband and son at home?  Can her doctor-husband sit her down and explain a man's point of view?

I can understand that we don't want to receive unsolicited photos of male genitalia.   Don't Sunny and Abby* realize how cruel they sound to every male?  It wouldn't have been as bad if Sunny's facial expressions weren't the epitome of revulsion.

Men are little boys enchanted with their favorite body part.  They want us to feel the same way.  Nothing's going to change.

*Joy, Ana, and Meghan didn't really add to the attacks.

I really love what you're saying here.  We demonize men's junk. Yeah, I don't want to see some random guys junk, but I also won't be clutching my pearls. 
 

Is catching up on OnDemand. Is it just me, or do we need this panel all week. Joy moderating, Ana in the middle seat.
 

[blondiec0332]

On 2/9/2019 at 10:29 PM, HaaCHOO said:

Back to the "displaying" male body part discussion...

• Male body part: Joy tried to explain that "men are visual."
• Male body part: Meghan said with a grin, "I don't know.  I don't mind it on occasion."
• Joy and Meghan both laughed.

Meghan did say when they were talking about men sending junk pics that she didn't mind it on occasion.  She made it a point to say this was before she was married of course.  And she also said she didn't send nude pics. Because her father was a politician.  So I guess she would have otherwise.