SweetieDarling June 12, 2019 Share June 12, 2019 30 minutes ago, divsc said: Wow! Apparently. How nice of Bethenny to share the details on camera! She's good like that. But don't you DARE ask about her custody situation or if her boyfriend is married. 7 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5368582
chewycandy June 12, 2019 Share June 12, 2019 https://www.instagram.com/p/Bynp_F2F-fA/?igshid=1i4mv8fg33z67 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5368825
SCS June 12, 2019 Share June 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Emmeline said: You were running in a field in negligee Wasn't this the theme of every bath and douche product from the 1970s? 😎 17 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5368886
SCS June 12, 2019 Share June 12, 2019 38 minutes ago, chewycandy said: https://www.instagram.com/p/Bynp_F2F-fA/?igshid=1i4mv8fg33z67 Mein Gott. Word on the street: the above trailer triggered the Apocalypse. The first horse then heard Lu's musical stylings, bucked off his rider off, splashed thru a mud puddle and galloped the Hell away. (no pun intended). 11 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5368909
Emmeline June 12, 2019 Share June 12, 2019 1 hour ago, chewycandy said: https://www.instagram.com/p/Bynp_F2F-fA/?igshid=1i4mv8fg33z67 Dear God, that is painful to watch. That doesn’t even sound like her. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5368958
Happy Camper June 12, 2019 Share June 12, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, izabella said: Bethy is prone to exaggeration, so I'd take all that with a boulder of salt. Not a Lu fan anymore but this is spot on. Take whatever Bethy says and divide it by a million, then subtract 10 million. Raised by wolves, lost at sea, bleeding to death, and so on, and so on.... How can poor Bethenny possibly survive this latest torture? Lu is still a shit show, but Beth is just as shitty, in another way. Edited June 13, 2019 by Happy Camper 1 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5369053
SuprSuprElevated June 13, 2019 Share June 13, 2019 (edited) Don't say I never gave you anything - Edited June 13, 2019 by SuprSuprElevated 8 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5372191
Dirtybubble June 13, 2019 Share June 13, 2019 The complete video here 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5372232
bosawks June 14, 2019 Share June 14, 2019 45 minutes ago, Dirtybubble said: The complete video here I mean, it certainly is something.... 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5372306
CharlizeCat June 14, 2019 Share June 14, 2019 Ha! Ha! Ha! That was the lamest thing I've ever seen or heard. First of all, it makes no sense whatsoever. Charlie's, erm, I mean ANDY's Angels, Lu is in a fashion show, then she's lip-synching and running her hands up and down her body for 3 minutes, whilst wearing a fugly wig? And Countess Queen can't dance to save her life. That was half a step above turtle time. It would have been funnier if Lisa Rinna was heckling, "JOVANI!" during her and Cynthia's scenes. What the ever-loving fuck??? THIS warrants a $3.5 million/year salary? 10 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5372386
Sew Sumi June 14, 2019 Share June 14, 2019 As George Takei would say....Oh myyyyyyy. 12 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5372473
Wicked June 14, 2019 Share June 14, 2019 deLUUUUsional!! 12 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5372508
BodhiGurl June 14, 2019 Share June 14, 2019 I couldn’t even get through 20 seconds of that stupidity 😂 1 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5372575
Rahul June 14, 2019 Share June 14, 2019 Hell with Countess, now I'm Queen Was that really a line in Luann's most recent track? Good lord, woman. Talk about an inflated ego. Yes, to hell with the Countess title. I think I'll take a page from Erika Jayne/Lisa Rinna's book and refer to her as Cuntess from now on. 4 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5372629
hoodooznoodooz June 14, 2019 Share June 14, 2019 They’re all the same song! This one in particular is the same as Chic, C’est La Vie. 1 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5372706
smores June 14, 2019 Share June 14, 2019 2 hours ago, CharlizeCat said: Ha! Ha! Ha! That was the lamest thing I've ever seen or heard. First of all, it makes no sense whatsoever. Charlie's, erm, I mean ANDY's Angels, Lu is in a fashion show, then she's lip-synching and running her hands up and down her body for 3 minutes, whilst wearing a fugly wig? And Countess Queen can't dance to save her life. That was half a step above turtle time. It would have been funnier if Lisa Rinna was heckling, "JOVANI!" during her and Cynthia's scenes. What the ever-loving fuck??? THIS warrants a $3.5 million/year salary? I honestly never thought that something would make Kim Z's "Google Me" song sound good, but, Congrats Lu! You did it! 4 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5372796
hoodooznoodooz June 14, 2019 Share June 14, 2019 Someone needs to stick an apostrophe up there. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5372878
Diane Mars June 14, 2019 Share June 14, 2019 I want so badly this topic renamed : "LuAnn de Lesseps: No Longer a Countess, Still a Cuntess" 🤣 2 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5373202
eleanorofaquitaine June 14, 2019 Share June 14, 2019 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Diane Mars said: I want so badly this topic renamed : "LuAnn de Lesseps: No Longer a Countess, Still a Cuntess" 🤣 I hope they don't. That word is offensive, IMO, even when it is coming from Erika Jayne and Lisa Rinna. The only good thing about that song is that Dorinda must be seething. Edited June 14, 2019 by eleanorofaquitaine 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5373247
Diane Mars June 14, 2019 Share June 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, eleanorofaquitaine said: I hope they don't. That word is offensive, IMO, even when it is coming from Erika Jayne and Lisa Rinna. The only good thing about that song is that Dorinda must be seething. Sorry if it's offensive. Where I'm from (Switzerland), it's not. So apologizes, because I didn't know. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5373259
eleanorofaquitaine June 14, 2019 Share June 14, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Diane Mars said: Sorry if it's offensive. Where I'm from (Switzerland), it's not. So apologizes, because I didn't know. No worries. I know that there is some difference of opinion even here in the States but personally, I find it to be a misogynistic slur. Edited June 14, 2019 by eleanorofaquitaine 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5373263
hoodooznoodooz June 14, 2019 Share June 14, 2019 13 hours ago, Dirtybubble said: The complete video here This video allows me to conclude that Lu’s only contribution to society is that she looks good in gowns. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5373316
Ellee June 14, 2019 Share June 14, 2019 39 minutes ago, hoodooznoodooz said: This video allows me to conclude that Lu’s only contribution to society is that she looks good in gowns. Not sure but I would bet that the male population would disagree. 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5373374
eleanorofaquitaine June 14, 2019 Share June 14, 2019 That video actually made me appreciate Cynthia and Rinna's performance skills. I mean, Cynthia is a real model and she looks like one, and Rinna at least knows how to move. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5373715
Natalie68 June 14, 2019 Share June 14, 2019 On 6/12/2019 at 3:37 PM, Emmeline said: Dear God, that is painful to watch. That doesn’t even sound like her. Oh god. It reminds me of something that would be on the Hulu parody called Hotwives. Who is encouraging her singing? Cause they need a timeout. Of course Rinna is in the video 🙄. 2 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5373763
QuinnM June 14, 2019 Share June 14, 2019 31 minutes ago, Natalie68 said: Who is encouraging her singing? Satan Andy, he talks about pressuring her to record alllll the time. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5373837
Dirtybubble June 14, 2019 Share June 14, 2019 5 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said: This video allows me to conclude that Lu’s only contribution to society is that she looks good in gowns. This is definitely a video to watch with the volume turned down. Visually I luved it but good lawd her singing and her rapping/spoken word oof. 🤢 2 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5373926
Cherrio June 14, 2019 Share June 14, 2019 One of the comments on the song was Please make an adult video ! LOL On 6/12/2019 at 6:16 PM, SCS said: Word on the street: the above trailer triggered the Apocalypse. The first horse then heard Lu's musical stylings, bucked off his rider off, splashed thru a mud puddle and galloped the Hell away. (no pun intended). Animals know, they can sense a bad person a mile away. Remember the camel that wanted no part of Luann? That camel knew she was a piece of shit. 5 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5374017
HunterHunted June 15, 2019 Share June 15, 2019 This is no better than La Piscine. That really says something. 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5374625
itsadryheat June 15, 2019 Share June 15, 2019 16 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said: This video allows me to conclude that Lu’s only contribution to society is that she looks good in gowns. What would Lu be doing if she wasn't a Reality "Schtar", dahling? Bushwacking through the streets of Miami, hunting for her poster, posting the spontaneous photo-she has the depth of a truffle french fry. She is the best person to have this title. All of her actions support and build her role as a one dimensional Reality "Schtar", always staying in character with a laser focus on the prize. What prize you ask, . . . well keeping the title at all costs. Easy to do without empathy, insight and a overblown ego. As mentioned before, the scene with her young son, "Sorry kid, mommy can't stay home I have to go out and be seen. And when she tried mentoring the underprivileged young women - embarrassing. Wasn't their also a dumb scene where she was with the daughter and daughter's friends, in a tent celebrating a graduation, blathering about etiquette rules while eating. She better learn to fake being grateful, or we may soon be reading about her next negligee romp in a field or drunken boating soirée. Feelin' Jovani y'all. 3 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5375029
ShawnaLanne June 15, 2019 Share June 15, 2019 Poor Lu. She is even overshadowed by Bethenny in Lu's forum. Lol 2 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5375057
Guest June 15, 2019 Share June 15, 2019 22 hours ago, eleanorofaquitaine said: I find it to be a misogynistic slur. That sums it up nicely. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5375172
BucFan June 15, 2019 Share June 15, 2019 In the shots with Lu in the silver dress and long black ponytail, at first I thought it was Kyle Richards. 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5375192
Baltimore Betty June 15, 2019 Share June 15, 2019 On 6/12/2019 at 5:59 PM, SCS said: Wasn't this the theme of every bath and douche product from the 1970s? 😎 Maybe Lu was having that not so fresh feeling. 5 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5375208
Baltimore Betty June 15, 2019 Share June 15, 2019 On 6/13/2019 at 7:21 PM, Dirtybubble said: The complete video here Is it me or does every one of her songs sound the same? Also, I think Lu and her cabaret act is every drag queen's wet dream, I mean how could you resist not being Countess Lu, she campy as can be! 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5375212
Wicked June 15, 2019 Share June 15, 2019 I've been re-watching some old seasons and Lu was actually very laid back and likeable when she was with Jacque. (sp?) Post Countess and pre cabaret Lu is the best Lu. I don't know if he was the deciding factor in her good behavior, but she was a completely different person. 3 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5375237
SweetieDarling June 15, 2019 Share June 15, 2019 1 hour ago, BucFan said: In the shots with Lu in the silver dress and long black ponytail, at first I thought it was Kyle Richards. I thought she looked more like Danielle Staub (RHNJ) 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5375271
Ellee June 15, 2019 Share June 15, 2019 On 6/13/2019 at 5:55 PM, SuprSuprElevated said: Don't say I never gave you anything - How did Lisa Rinna and Cynthia Bailey become a part of the video? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5375301
SCS June 15, 2019 Share June 15, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said: Maybe Lu was having that not so fresh feeling. An excellent point, especially if her negligee flit was post-assignation... 8 hours ago, itsadryheat said: Wasn't their also a dumb scene where she was with the daughter and daughter's friends, in a tent celebrating a graduation, blathering about etiquette rules while eating. Yes, and through it all Victoria masticated wildly with her mouth open. 😁 Edited June 15, 2019 by SCS 5 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5375344
Mindthinkr June 15, 2019 Share June 15, 2019 1 hour ago, SCS said: Yes, and through it all Victoria masticated wildly with her mouth open. 😁 That is just a huge pet peeve of mine. I don’t miss Carole for her eating etiquette, and Lu....good manners begin at home. Teach your children better instead of running around chasing men and falling in the bushes. What ever became of her daughter’s DUI? 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5375449
MavisL June 15, 2019 Share June 15, 2019 (edited) On 6/12/2019 at 3:16 PM, SCS said: Mein Gott. Word on the street: the above trailer triggered the Apocalypse. The first horse then heard Lu's musical stylings, bucked off his rider off, splashed thru a mud puddle and galloped the Hell away. (no pun intended). On 6/13/2019 at 3:55 PM, SuprSuprElevated said: Don't say I never gave you anything - Jesus christ. I'm like, what could be worse than watching LuAnn look as fresh as a Baby Jane recital. Then I see Rinna's old skin-covered skeleton gyrating with her open lips that belong in a pair of panties......god she grosses me out. I'll take a thousand Lu cabarets over a forty second Rinna doing that. Geesh...she just gives me the creeps. Edited June 15, 2019 by MavisL 2 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5375500
HunterHunted June 15, 2019 Share June 15, 2019 4 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said: Is it me or does every one of her songs sound the same? Also, I think Lu and her cabaret act is every drag queen's wet dream, I mean how could you resist not being Countess Lu, she campy as can be! They really do sound similar. These songs are great for drag queens because Lu's voice is so deep that a drag queen wouldn't even have to lip sync. A drag queen could just sing live and sound 100% better than Luann. In the preview for next week, Ben is absolutely gleeful watching Luann's strangled moose calls that she thinks of as singing. It actually makes me dislike Ben a little because Luann is too dumLUsional to be in on the joke. Jeez Ben can you reserve your very obvious delight at her awfulness until she leaves the room. 2 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5375594
hoodooznoodooz June 15, 2019 Share June 15, 2019 23 hours ago, Dirtybubble said: This is definitely a video to watch with the volume turned down. Visually I luved it but good lawd her singing and her rapping/spoken word oof. 🤢 5 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said: Is it me or does every one of her songs sound the same? Also, I think Lu and her cabaret act is every drag queen's wet dream, I mean how could you resist not being Countess Lu, she campy as can be! Yes. Every song is essentially the same. Maybe three or four different notes that Lu mangles, then she just seems to recite a list of various things. 95% spoken word. In the movie “Say Anything,” Joan Cusack’s character notices that her brother subsists primarily on stuff like Doritoes, soda, Lucky Charms, and Ding Dongs. She complains, “There’s no food in your food!” Lu, there’s no song in your song. 4 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5375622
hoodooznoodooz June 15, 2019 Share June 15, 2019 23 minutes ago, HunterHunted said: They really do sound similar. These songs are great for drag queens because Lu's voice is so deep that a drag queen wouldn't even have to lip sync. A drag queen could just sing live and sound 100% better than Luann. In the preview for next week, Ben is absolutely gleeful watching Luann's strangled moose calls that she thinks of as singing. It actually makes me dislike Ben a little because Luann is too dumLUsional to be in on the joke. Jeez Ben can you reserve your very obvious delight at her awfulness until she leaves the room. I was going to ask you about this. I really do get the impression that Lu amuses Ben. He doesn’t seem that concerned about her sobriety. He’s laughing at her, not with her. I don’t think he respects her. He also seems to enjoy the fact that Lu is NOT in on the joke, that she IS the joke. Has he done this with other clients? Or is it just that Lu is the only one who is too dumb to figure it out? 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5375639
eleanorofaquitaine June 15, 2019 Share June 15, 2019 In giving some thought to Lu's pride re her cabaret act, I suspect a huge part of it comes from the fact that it is something she has built for herself (with her collaborators, no doubt) without the assistance of a husband or boyfriend or what have you. I think a big part of why she is so happy about it and pushing it so hard is because it allows her a measure of independence that she hasn't had previously, because it's money she's earned without reference to a male partner. I also think that is what she was trying to say to Bethenny when Beth was having her meltdown about Lu leaving rehab early to go do the cabaret act. Beth was acting as if this indicated that Lu was "obsessed" with the cabaret but I suspect what Lu was trying to say is that she HAD to continue to do the cabaret act in order to not lose any money. One would think that Beth would be somewhat sympathetic to that explanation but she was so deep into her hysterics at that point that nothing was getting through. 2 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5375746
Otherkate June 15, 2019 Share June 15, 2019 Ugh, I finally broke down and watched that video. Outside of all the other obvious embarrassments, Lu can't even catch her breath when she's "singing" I thought it was ridiculous when Dorinda told Lu that she was going to sue her for talking about her in her act, but this made me understand her POV. Frankly, I almost want to sue Lu for inflicting that video upon me. The presence of that loathsome dehydrated walking celery stick Lisa Rinna made it even worse. 16 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5375911
Mindthinkr June 15, 2019 Share June 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Otherkate said: The presence of that loathsome dehydrated walking celery stick Lisa Rinna made it even worse. Oh that was just too funny and spot on. 4 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5375917
HunterHunted June 16, 2019 Share June 16, 2019 4 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said: I was going to ask you about this. I really do get the impression that Lu amuses Ben. He doesn’t seem that concerned about her sobriety. He’s laughing at her, not with her. I don’t think he respects her. He also seems to enjoy the fact that Lu is NOT in on the joke, that she IS the joke. Has he done this with other clients? Or is it just that Lu is the only one who is too dumb to figure it out? I don't think he respects her at all either. I never got the sense that he had a hate on for her in his recaps. He even has a one man show about his own issues with drugs, alcohol, and overspending and how those issues led him to theft, fraud, prostitution, and rehab. It seems like he'd be sympathetic towards Luann, but at the Halloween performance he seemed pretty blase about how bad of an environment for Lu's sobriety. Someone in the episode thread mentioned that Heather said Luann was incapable of introspection. You can't get her to think about her life, her patterns, and her choices. I suspect that Ben realized this too and just continued to work because Lu's going to Lu. 3 hours ago, eleanorofaquitaine said: In giving some thought to Lu's pride re her cabaret act, I suspect a huge part of it comes from the fact that it is something she has built for herself (with her collaborators, no doubt) without the assistance of a husband or boyfriend or what have you. I think a big part of why she is so happy about it and pushing it so hard is because it allows her a measure of independence that she hasn't had previously, because it's money she's earned without reference to a male partner. I don't think Luann is especially proud of the cabaret show because she achieved it independently. Luann just likes people paying attention to her. When they were at the sandbar in Miami and those guys came by playing one of her songs, she lit up and started yelling about how "they knew her music." One of the few times Luann was shook was when they were at Birdland and Billy Stritch was playing. Mario sang a song to the love of his life, Ramona. Hahahahahaha! This probably filmed around the time when Kasey had to get an abortion because Mario knocked her up. Heather had to get up a sing because Luann wouldn't sing. I think Luann refused to sing because she would have needed 3 weeks prep. Luann has no issues with being entirely supported by men. That has never been an issue with her. Within weeks of meeting Tom, she moved into Tom's apartment and had him pay to remodel her kitchen in her Sag Harbor house. She shoved it everyone's face that she had a man. She bragged that Alex was going to walk her down the aisle when she married Tom. This didn't happen. Alex never came to the wedding. 3 hours ago, eleanorofaquitaine said: I also think that is what she was trying to say to Bethenny when Beth was having her meltdown about Lu leaving rehab early to go do the cabaret act. Beth was acting as if this indicated that Lu was "obsessed" with the cabaret but I suspect what Lu was trying to say is that she HAD to continue to do the cabaret act in order to not lose any money. One would think that Beth would be somewhat sympathetic to that explanation but she was so deep into her hysterics at that point that nothing was getting through. It's pretty clear Luann needs the cabaret money. I think Bethenny would have been sympathetic about Lu leaving rehab and needing to work had Bethenny not been present during Luann's relapse. Many of us assumed that it was a relapse in name only and Luann was hiding from the press and skipping the reunion. But Bethenny's description was bonkers. If half of it is true, Luann should have stayed in. If it's all true, Luann needed to stay in rehab. Her health should mean more than the couple thousand dollars she would have made with 2 or 3 performances. All of the women have problematic drinking habits, but the 3 with the most problematic drinking issues have had serious consequences. Dorinda stabs herself with a knife. Sonja slips and nearly does a header into the table. Luann gets blitzed and has the police called on her twice. This is serious shit. Luann has no coping mechanisms to deal with challenges. She's never developed them because her previous strategy for dealing with problems was having a rich guy fix her problem. During that weekend, not only was a rich guy not going to help her out, he (Alex) was part of the problem as Alex and the kids were suing her. Luann needs a ton of therapy and treatment. In the therapeutic and disability world, we talk about rehab and hab. Rehab is to improve functioning to some prior level, but it assumes you had some prior higher level of function in the past. Hab (habilitation) is to teach you skills or functioning that you never had. Luann has a whole host of skills that she never learned and we're seeing what happens when you expect things out of a person lacking those skills. 3 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5376187
Happy Camper June 16, 2019 Share June 16, 2019 1 hour ago, HunterHunted said: I don't think he respects her at all either. I never got the sense that he had a hate on for her in his recaps. He even has a one man show about his own issues with drugs, alcohol, and overspending and how those issues led him to theft, fraud, prostitution, and rehab. It seems like he'd be sympathetic towards Luann, but at the Halloween performance he seemed pretty blase about how bad of an environment for Lu's sobriety. Someone in the episode thread mentioned that Heather said Luann was incapable of introspection. You can't get her to think about her life, her patterns, and her choices. I suspect that Ben realized this too and just continued to work because Lu's going to Lu. I don't think Luann is especially proud of the cabaret show because she achieved it independently. Luann just likes people paying attention to her. When they were at the sandbar in Miami and those guys came by playing one of her songs, she lit up and started yelling about how "they knew her music." One of the few times Luann was shook was when they were at Birdland and Billy Stritch was playing. Mario sang a song to the love of his life, Ramona. Hahahahahaha! This probably filmed around the time when Kasey had to get an abortion because Mario knocked her up. Heather had to get up a sing because Luann wouldn't sing. I think Luann refused to sing because she would have needed 3 weeks prep. Luann has no issues with being entirely supported by men. That has never been an issue with her. Within weeks of meeting Tom, she moved into Tom's apartment and had him pay to remodel her kitchen in her Sag Harbor house. She shoved it everyone's face that she had a man. She bragged that Alex was going to walk her down the aisle when she married Tom. This didn't happen. Alex never came to the wedding. It's pretty clear Luann needs the cabaret money. I think Bethenny would have been sympathetic about Lu leaving rehab and needing to work had Bethenny not been present during Luann's relapse. Many of us assumed that it was a relapse in name only and Luann was hiding from the press and skipping the reunion. But Bethenny's description was bonkers. If half of it is true, Luann should have stayed in. If it's all true, Luann needed to stay in rehab. Her health should mean more than the couple thousand dollars she would have made with 2 or 3 performances. All of the women have problematic drinking habits, but the 3 with the most problematic drinking issues have had serious consequences. Dorinda stabs herself with a knife. Sonja slips and nearly does a header into the table. Luann gets blitzed and has the police called on her twice. This is serious shit. Luann has no coping mechanisms to deal with challenges. She's never developed them because her previous strategy for dealing with problems was having a rich guy fix her problem. During that weekend, not only was a rich guy not going to help her out, he (Alex) was part of the problem as Alex and the kids were suing her. Luann needs a ton of therapy and treatment. In the therapeutic and disability world, we talk about rehab and hab. Rehab is to improve functioning to some prior level, but it assumes you had some prior higher level of function in the past. Hab (habilitation) is to teach you skills or functioning that you never had. Luann has a whole host of skills that she never learned and we're seeing what happens when you expect things out of a person lacking those skills. Between you and Film Noire, we need to have a standing ovations option. You two just GET IT. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5376312
BckpckFullaNinjas June 16, 2019 Share June 16, 2019 Oh man — on the subject of addiction (Lu’s thread seemed as good as any to post about it), read Kristen Johnson’s addiction memoir “GUTS” today. Cover to cover. Her description of the addict’s thought processes and habits had me open-mouthed a couple of times, so closely did they track with what we’ve observed & discussed w/regard to Lu, Sawn & Doris. (Apologies if this is old news. The book is from ‘12 and the first of the genre [celebrity addiction / recovery] that I’ve read. But it was so spot-on!) GUTS 4 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/8892-luann-de-lesseps-no-longer-a-countess-still-never-a-princess/page/75/#findComment-5376332
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