Amber: A Rill Woman Goes to Gel

[gunderda]

31 minutes ago, CaliforniaLove said:

http://people.com/tv/teen-mom-amber-portwood-fiance-matt-baier-confesses-pain-pill-relapse-vegas-eruption-blackout/

Um, you guys?? YOU GUYS???!??! No. Words. 

super convenient excuse.  "i conveniently fell off my non-existent program and took invisible drugs so i could act like an asshole and then pretend i was high and i don't remember it"

[Faul McCartney]

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/teen-mom-ogs-amber-portwood-stunned-by-fan-reactions-to-sex-tape-offer-w484211

???

I seriously don't understand how she has "fans."  Who in their right mind would approve of her asshole ways?! The responses on her twitter feed seem mixed, at least some people are calling her out on her hypocritical bullshit. 

Matt is a disgusting garbage person. 

[poopchute]

27 minutes ago, LotusFlower said:

Exactly.  A perfect backfire would be for Gary to disallow visitations with Leah while Matt is "using."  

Also, I love how not a word of this so-called relapse was mentioned only three days ago on the after show.  

Yep!  They tried to distract with the porno story but it wasn't enough so now he's going with this story.  They are clearly desperate to spin this and are trying everything.

[EmeraldGirl]

Damn, they're working overtime to cover something. Blackouts, porn, big sweet Leah face present in porn (shoutout to you Uncle Juice). 

Wait, is that tattoo really gone? She's been pretty careful to show only cleavage (or whatever the hell you call that mess that can reach her chin). Leah was on her side mostly (What a sentence). Maybe her stomach wrapped around. Can you imagine how stretched out Leah's face was (did that make you laugh Uncle?)? 

Blackouts and relapses are BS, but I would totally believe that they've been on pills all this time. Where the hell is her $300,000 going? Not to Leah. Just to a few cars. Btw - people on Twitter are showing Herman in a new home. That poor sweet thing that chased a runner to try to get the hell outta there. 

[BXD]

I LITERALLY CAN'T with him. This is coming from the guy who has one of the most poorly written books I have ever seen in my life.

[teapot]

I was just listening to the Again with This podcast of the Unauthorized Beverly Hills 90210 movie on Lifetime (side note that I was in the cafeteria at work and my headphone jack fell out while they were saying "NOT ON THE BREAST!" so that was awesome.)

and yes, I am a *little* (understatement) bit behind on this podcast, which is probs on like season six now...but never mind.

Wouldn't it be cool if, in 2037, they had "TEEN MOM BEHIND THE SCENES:  A LIFETIME ORIGINAL MOVIE"?

[ReadMeLattice]

47 minutes ago, Uncle JUICE said:

WHY THE FUCK AM I LAUGHING SO HARD AT THIS??? She has actually had sex with that thing looking at her partner!!! 

This thread is requiring more and more brain bleach! Aaahh!

[Mr. Miner]

1 hour ago, LotusFlower said:

Yes.  I've noticed Amber also does this with depression.  Whenever Gary calls her out for not being available for Leah or skipping a weekend, Amber uses depression as an excuse and lashes out at him for his insensitivity to her "disease."  Meanwhile, she's either out of town, or getting plastic surgery, or just being lazy.

And when the show is over and all of the money is gone. That will be her excuse for not getting a job, she'll be on disability for all of her mental problems.  

Edited May 25, 2017 by Mr. Minor

[Brooklynista]

1 hour ago, gunderda said:

super convenient excuse.  "i conveniently fell off my non-existent program and took invisible drugs so i could act like an asshole and then pretend i was high and i don't remember it"

"Amber you can't leave me now in my time of need.  I need the love and strength only you can provide". It'll go something like that or however he spins it so the dummy can feel like his savior.

 

He's good.  He's really really good at this.

[ghoulina]

1 hour ago, CaliforniaLove said:

http://people.com/tv/teen-mom-amber-portwood-fiance-matt-baier-confesses-pain-pill-relapse-vegas-eruption-blackout/

Um, you guys?? YOU GUYS???!??! No. Words. 

I don't believe him. First, I don't think he was ever an addict. I'm not saying he's above it. It just feels like something he uses to get close to vulnerable women. And this time I think he's making up this blackout shit to excuse his despicable behavior. Always looking for the spin, that one. 

[Mambo Gladys]

From the drug article:

“One thing I can’t do is lie to Amber..."

[ghoulina]

9 minutes ago, saratothej said:

 

From the drug article:

“One thing I can’t do is lie to Amber..."

 

Except when you pretend the rest of the day, but just told the producer you won't ever fucking marry her. 

[Snarky McSnarky]

2 hours ago, Uncle JUICE said:

WHY THE FUCK AM I LAUGHING SO HARD AT THIS??? She has actually had sex with that thing looking at her partner!!! 

Perfect image for a porn movie:

[bethster2000]

2 hours ago, LotusFlower said:

Whenever Gary calls her out for not being available for Leah or skipping a weekend, Amber uses depression as an excuse and lashes out at him for his insensitivity to her "disease."  Meanwhile, she's either out of town, or getting plastic surgery, or just being lazy.

Such a total disservice to the millions of people around the globe who suffer from legitimate, life-altering depression.  I went through a terrible depression last summer that included a hospital stay.  While I know everyone is different, at one point, I had to be helped from my bed to the bathroom.  I was so exhausted and out of it, I couldn't get there and back under my own steam.

[leighroda]

Dear Matt, 

you have to have a lapse to have a RE-lapse.

warm regards,

leighroda

Does he really think we are that dumb? Right, of course he does, this is the same guy who repeatedly has turned Amber against everyone but himself. 

There's so many things wrong with this scenario, 1) he is shown on camera completely fine. I'm a nurse, I only say that to give a frame of reference of the level of people I deal with on the regular basis, I'm around junkies, and especially pill seeking ones more often than I'm around my own family (I just want to add a disclaimer that I am not implying that all those who seek medication for pain/comfort are drug addicts, but the reality is people do it). The thing is, when someone is seeking to get high or drunk or whatever it is they are looking for, you don't act completely normal, there are physiological signs that can't be controlled (ie pupil dilation). I know someone is going to counter with "my (fill in relation here) can (fill in vice here) and go to work, without a single person noticing" sure that can be true... but for the most part people do those things (getting drunk/high) for the purpose of altering their mental state, meaning to achieve that is most likely going to cause a noticeable change in behavior. If Matt was high enough to black out and not remember or have control of his actions, I would venture to say his behavior would have given something away and someone seeing that scene would have picked up on that 2 weeks ago when the preview aired. Especially if he had been off of pills for as long as he says. He was cool/calm/and calculating in all of those scenes. Matt is a lot of things, but he has never demonstrated addict behavior (when it comes to drugs) even Amber, who has a confirmed past of drug use shows signs of previous (if not current) drug use since being out of jail. 

2) Pretty much every moment of that Vegas trip was documented, when would he have found a source, and taken anything without anyone noticing, MTV would definitely shown something if they had any inkling of anything going on. He wouldn't necessarily have to have gotten the drugs in Vegas I suppose, but he and Amber are together 24/7 so IF I am too believe he was using, then my guess would be that Amber is also, which is not out of the realm of possibility, but does not fit his narrative. 

3) You know who can sniff out drug use faster than almost anyone? A former user. Going with his version of events about Amber being so strict and how mad drug use would make her, again they are around each other all the time, Amber would have most likely been able to tell in no time. I find it hard to believe Matt would have been able to pull off fooling absolutely everyone.

4) This all happened months ago in real time, yet not even a vague reference of any type of relapse until now? The aftershow was probably filmed within a week of airing Monday, and a relapse would have been ratings gold, if that were the reason for anything we saw, I have no doubt it would have been declared at that point, these are people (Amber/Matt) who don't shy away from airing dirty laundry, especially if it serves their narrative. 

I can't believe I mustered even a fraction of a fraction of empathy for Amber when I said I could put my hatred aside if she would just leave Matt, they truly deserve each other. I hope Gary is keeping track of all this stuff, if Matt wants to go along with the relapse story, and I were Gary, I would be trying to find a way to not have Leah alone with them... surely Matts drug use and Ambers refusal to kick him to the curb could be seen as detrimental to Leah. I know drug addicts or their partners have kids all the time, so maybe one relapse is not enough reason to terminate or supervise visits... but if I were Gary it definitely shows a pattern of bad judgement on Ambers part, so I would make note.

[CofCinci]

3 hours ago, EmeraldGirl said:

Where the hell is her $300,000 going? Not to Leah. Just to a few cars. Btw - people on Twitter are showing Herman in a new home. That poor sweet thing that chased a runner to try to get the hell outta there. 

None of it has gone to the IRS. The $130K lien is still active. 

[LotusFlower]

Matt was completely ok in the footage, and made no mention of any drug use or relapse during the live aftershow.  I don't think they saw the episode until it aired (or just before), so they either didn't have enough time to think up a convincing cover story, or they didn't think the reaction would be as bad as it is.  Since the feedback has been so negative - it's Damage Control 101 - put out a story, any story, as quickly as possible to douse the fire.  After all, Matt has a book coming out next week to promote.*

* I hope he's well enough to go on those promotional tours.  

[ginger90]

Amber's ( copied) words of wisdom

https://mobile.twitter.com/AmberLPortwood/status/867608465065336832?p=v

All of the stories currently out there and these are Matt's tweets. Is he supposedly in treatment for this relapse?  A care plan including tweeting, lol.

https://mobile.twitter.com/mattbEPT/status/867796693777080321?p=v

https://mobile.twitter.com/mattbEPT/status/867779468785594368?p=v

[ginger90]

Just read the People article. This is a gem

“That person that I was watching was not me, it’s not who I am,” he says. “I remember getting really upset and I felt a lot of shame. Also, what I said is completely not how I feel and it also didn’t make sense. I do know that I allowed myself to have my buttons pushed that day, I just don’t remember it all that well. They just caught me on a really bad day.”

Damn those buttons.

"

[jacksgirl]

Following the halfway house discussion. From my Intervention love, I know they call transition housing sober living.  I volunteer at a crisis pregnancy organization, and the house where the birth moms live is a safe house. Interested in what Cate and Tyler are thinking (if anything)

[GreatKazu]

3 hours ago, saratothej said:

From the drug article:

“One thing I can’t do is lie to Amber..."

"What I do is, I gas light the fuck outta her and get her to lie for the both of us."

@leighroda agree to your entire post. 

Shit! I go away for appointments and a meeting, met up with my husband for lunch and we laughed as I gave him the updates on Amber since the dick pic and porn story. Now, I come home to chill out and read what you all have posted about the latest Matt tweets and cover-up story. I just can't keep up! The stories are coming in too fast! Matt and Amber are on a roll. I bet they haven't moved as fast as they have in the past week trying to figure out what lies they will come up with to try and side-step the story about Matt cheating. Now he is trying to claim he relapsed? Is that what he told Amber? What a bum fucking, desperate idiot Amber is. 

Edited May 25, 2017 by GreatKazu

[CofCinci]

18 minutes ago, GreatKazu said:

"What I do is, I gas light the fuck outta her and get her to lie for the both of us."

@leighroda agree to your entire post. 

Shit! I go away for appointments and a meeting, met up with my husband for lunch and we laughed as I gave him the updates on Amber since the dick pic and porn story. Now, I come home to chill out and read what you all have posted about the latest Matt tweets and cover-up story. I just can't keep up! The stories are coming in too fast! Matt and Amber are on a roll. I bet they haven't moved as fast as they have in the past week trying to figure out what lies they will come up with to try and side-step the story about Matt cheating. Now he is trying to claim he relapsed? Is that what he told Amber? What a bum fucking, desperate idiot Amber is. 

It is so hard to keep up!  I believe there is an even bigger story here and they're covering up.  Matt is delaying the break up by running off to rehab -- a rehab that he does not even need.  Narcissist, sociopath, whatever Matt is -- they rarely use drugs -- as power/control get them high.

[Uncle JUICE]

5 hours ago, EmeraldGirl said:

 

Wait, is that tattoo really gone? She's been pretty careful to show only cleavage (or whatever the hell you call that mess that can reach her chin). Leah was on her side mostly (What a sentence). Maybe her stomach wrapped around. Can you imagine how stretched out Leah's face was (did that make you laugh uncle?)

I'm laughing imagining the various contortions that face goes through during sex.  They are all disapproving.  If you get a belly tattoo, you are really committing to an an workout forever, too.  It's got to look really gross now. 

[leighroda]

38 minutes ago, CofCinci said:

It is so hard to keep up!  I believe there is an even bigger story here and they're covering up.  Matt is delaying the break up by running off to rehab -- a rehab that he does not even need.  Narcissist, sociopath, whatever Matt is -- they rarely use drugs -- as power/control get them high.

Exactly! If there was an issue like relapse, it happened months ago... so if treatment/rehab was needed, why did they wait until now that the episode aired to address it? I don't buy for a second nobody but the producers knew this all happened and they found out when we did on Monday.

I said a while back that I thought this whole breakup story could be in preparation for his book, isn't it being released in the next few weeks? Now he's amping up how shocked we are going to be by his past, and his current "relapse"... I call bullshit. 

Im not good at finding records like a lot of people on here, so I'm not sure what his arrest record looks like, but if this drug narrative were true, I feel like there would be some past arrest related to drugs that would have come out, or some other documented incident. As far as I know his criminal record is stuff related to fraud, and maybe a domestic situation (I can't keep everyone's records straight). I could be wrong there could be something drug related, and even if not it wouldn't be definitive proof that he never had a drug problem, because it just means he didn't get caught, but I find it hard to believe he had this huge crazy past that we will all be shocked by, and yet never got into trouble with the law for anything drug related. 

[CofCinci]

17 minutes ago, leighroda said:

Exactly! If there was an issue like relapse, it happened months ago... so if treatment/rehab was needed, why did they wait until now that the episode aired to address it? I don't buy for a second nobody but the producers knew this all happened and they found out when we did on Monday.

I said a while back that I thought this whole breakup story could be in preparation for his book, isn't it being released in the next few weeks? Now he's amping up how shocked we are going to be by his past, and his current "relapse"... I call bullshit. 

Im not good at finding records like a lot of people on here, so I'm not sure what his arrest record looks like, but if this drug narrative were true, I feel like there would be some past arrest related to drugs that would have come out, or some other documented incident. As far as I know his criminal record is stuff related to fraud, and maybe a domestic situation (I can't keep everyone's records straight). I could be wrong there could be something drug related, and even if not it wouldn't be definitive proof that he never had a drug problem, because it just means he didn't get caught, but I find it hard to believe he had this huge crazy past that we will all be shocked by, and yet never got into trouble with the law for anything drug related. 

in 1992 he received a misdemeanor for driving under the influence.  http://publicsearch.ndcourts.gov/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=200064

[LunaMia]

Amber and Matt are such pieces of shit. She is such a moron and I have zero pity for her. She has zero self respect and has no problem with her boyfriend degrading women. After seeing the way he spoke to the producer, she gave no shits about how he degraded and sexually harassed that woman.

Speaking of, the producer really has no pride!?  Letting that smegma speak to her in such a way with not even a verbal smackdown? Grow a fucken backbone lady and give that fucker the verbal slap down he deserves. Everyone on this show is so damn annoying. 

Ill reserve my sympathy to women who are truly victimized and fearful for their lives everyday. Yeah a real victim here, wanting to make a porno with her emotional captor Matt.  She's someone who uses her so called mental illness to feign pity. Who puts her man above the needs of her kid. Or who bitches about paying child support, but has zero problem with douche canoe buying himself a new corvette. She knows exactly who he is, yet she wants to always blame the haters, etc. Fuck this Hatchet faced Marilyn Monroe wanna be and her Rebel Without a Clue piece of human excrement. Leah deserves better; with her Dad and real Mom Christina. 

[ginger90]

So I guess Gary probably wasn't made aware of this crap in real time either.

Love how Matt says Leah wasn't around when he was popping pills. Perhaps that's part of the reason she wasn't. 

[MissMel]

1 hour ago, jacksgirl said:

Following the halfway house discussion. From my Intervention love, I know they call transition housing sober living.  I volunteer at a crisis pregnancy organization, and the house where the birth moms live is a safe house. Interested in what Cate and Tyler are thinking (if anything)

Right.  From my understanding, sober living is a voluntary thing after rehab.  A halfway house is court ordered, usually after prison, for the last 6 months or so of a sentence.  It's an alternative to house arrest for those who can't afford ankle monitoring.  

This may not be normal to others but it's how things happen here.  That's why I asked what was wrong with the term "halfway house".  It seems legit to me.  ???

Edited May 26, 2017 by MissMel
missed about 12 letters in this post, maybe more

[ginger90]

Gary tweeted this 

https://mobile.twitter.com/ItsGaryTime/status/867898943832809472?p=v

Followed by this

https://mobile.twitter.com/ItsGaryTime/status/867899764704239616?p=v

He's normally not one to take to twitter like Amber and Matt.

[Court]

Y'all, I have had a crappy day but this thread has made it so much better.  I can't stop laughing at these posts.  

[Brooklynista]

36 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

Gary tweeted this 

https://mobile.twitter.com/ItsGaryTime/status/867898943832809472?p=v

Followed by this

https://mobile.twitter.com/ItsGaryTime/status/867899764704239616?p=v

He's normally not one to take to twitter like Amber and Matt.

I have to give it up to Gary yet again. He's got this beautiful little girl who loves her momma and it has to be hard to see Amber make all the bullshit moves she does. It's super mature of him to not trash talk Amber when she makes it so easy. 

[JZone]

I'm genuinely curious if Matt could be classified as a psychopath. There is a psychopathy checklist that I put in the spoilers beneath for anyone who'd like to take a peak, and it's scary how much it represents what we know of Matt. 

Spoiler

GLIB and SUPERFICIAL CHARM — The tendency to be smooth, engaging, charming, slick, and verbally facile. Psychopathic charm is not in the least shy, self-conscious, or afraid to say anything.  A psychopath never gets tongue-tied. They have freed themselves from the social conventions about taking turns in talking, for example.

GRANDIOSE SELF-WORTH — A grossly inflated view of one’s abilities and self-worth, self-assured, opinionated, cocky, a braggart. Psychopaths are arrogant people who believe they are superior human beings.

NEED FOR STIMULATION or PRONENESS TO BOREDOM — An excessive need for novel, thrilling, and exciting stimulation; taking chances and doing things that are risky. Psychopaths often have low self-discipline in carrying tasks through to completion because they get bored easily. They fail to work at the same job for any length of time, for example, or to finish tasks that they consider dull or routine.

PATHOLOGICAL LYING — Can be moderate or high; in moderate form, they will be shrewd, crafty, cunning, sly, and clever; in extreme form, they will be deceptive, deceitful, underhanded, unscrupulous, manipulative, and dishonest.

CONNING AND MANIPULATIVENESS — The use of deceit and deception to cheat, con, or defraud others for personal gain; distinguished from Item #4 in the degree to which exploitation and callous ruthlessness is present, as reflected in a lack of concern for the feelings and suffering of one’s victims.

LACK OF REMORSE OR GUILT — A lack of feelings or concern for the losses, pain, and suffering of victims; a tendency to be unconcerned, dispassionate, cold-hearted, and non-empathic. This item is usually demonstrated by a disdain for one’s victims.

SHALLOW AFFECT — Emotional poverty or a limited range or depth of feelings; interpersonal coldness in spite of signs of open gregariousness.

CALLOUSNESS and LACK OF EMPATHY — A lack of feelings toward people in general; cold, contemptuous, inconsiderate, and tactless.

PARASITIC LIFESTYLE — An intentional, manipulative, selfish, and exploitative financial dependence on others as reflected in a lack of motivation, low self-discipline, and inability to begin or complete responsibilities.

POOR BEHAVIORAL CONTROLS — Expressions of irritability, annoyance, impatience, threats, aggression, and verbal abuse; inadequate control of anger and temper; acting hastily.

PROMISCUOUS SEXUAL BEHAVIOR — A variety of brief, superficial relations, numerous affairs, and an indiscriminate selection of sexual partners; the maintenance of several relationships at the same time; a history of attempts to sexually coerce others into sexual activity or taking great pride at discussing sexual exploits or conquests.

EARLY BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS — A variety of behaviors prior to age 13, including lying, theft, cheating, vandalism, bullying, sexual activity, fire-setting, glue-sniffing, alcohol use, and running away from home.

LACK OF REALISTIC, LONG-TERM GOALS — An inability or persistent failure to develop and execute long-term plans and goals; a nomadic existence, aimless, lacking direction in life.

IMPULSIVITY — The occurrence of behaviors that are unpremeditated and lack reflection or planning; inability to resist temptation, frustrations, and urges; a lack of deliberation without considering the consequences; foolhardy, rash, unpredictable, erratic, and reckless.

IRRESPONSIBILITY — Repeated failure to fulfill or honor obligations and commitments; such as not paying bills, defaulting on loans, performing sloppy work, being absent or late to work, failing to honor contractual agreements.

FAILURE TO ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR OWN ACTIONS — A failure to accept responsibility for one’s actions reflected in low conscientiousness, an absence of dutifulness, antagonistic manipulation, denial of responsibility, and an effort to manipulate others through this denial.

MANY SHORT-TERM MARITAL RELATIONSHIPS — A lack of commitment to a long-term relationship reflected in inconsistent, undependable, and unreliable commitments in life, including marital.

JUVENILE DELINQUENCY — Behavior problems between the ages of 13-18; mostly behaviors that are crimes or clearly involve aspects of antagonism, exploitation, aggression, manipulation, or a callous, ruthless tough-mindedness.

REVOCATION OF CONDITION RELEASE — A revocation of probation or other conditional releases due to technical violations, such as carelessness, low deliberation, or failing to appear.

CRIMINAL VERSATILITY — A diversity of types of criminal offenses, regardless if the person has been arrested or convicted for them; taking great pride at getting away with crimes.The word psychopath can be replaced with the word sociopath throughout this page. The meaning is very similar, if not the same.

Here is a quote from a Doctor of Psychology from psychcentral.com 

"Psychopaths, in general, have a hard time forming real emotional attachments with others. Instead, they form artificial, shallow relationships designed to be manipulated in a way that most benefits the psychopath. People are seen as pawns to be used to forward the psychopath’s goals. Psychopaths rarely feel guilt regarding any of their behaviors, no matter how much they hurt others.

But psychopaths can often be seen by others as being charming and trustworthy, holding steady, normal jobs. Some even have families and seemingly-loving relationships with a partner."

I've wondered this about Matt for a long time, based on his ability to constantly lie and manipulate Amber, on top of all the other women who have come forth sharing their similar stories about him. However, the last episode made it impossible to ignore.

A few things that really jumped out was the fact that he actually said that he's done with Amber but was going to continue to pretend to love her. Also, the fact that he blatantly lied about her daughter wanting them to get married. That's beyond low. He was willing to lie to the "love of his life" about her 8 year old daughter being OK with them eloping, and then deny an 8 year old from being a part of her mom's wedding. Disgusting. Lastly, the way he pushed Amber to agree to elope was hard to watch. How could anyone in their right mind be comfortable marrying someone who is repeatedly saying they're scared and aren't sure about this. He says that he loves Amber more than anything and that they are soulmates, but he is literally trying to force her into something serious that she is blatantly uncomfortable with. Then he actually spins it around on Amber and make her feel like she was the bad guy in the situation, and she should be the one apologizing and seeking forgiveness.

I honestly think he is a legitimate psychopath. It's actually scary watching him in action. 

Edited May 26, 2017 by JZone

[GreatKazu]

11 hours ago, Uncle JUICE said:

BUT I'M 41!!! It IS the best thing since Buzz Lightyear...that's the name of a vibrator, right?

Buzz Lightyear should be tattooed on Maci's forehead. Homegirl is buzzed all the time. 

10 hours ago, SuzWhat said:

I agree.  That article is the biggest load of bullshit ever.   He was hitting all the points.   "Amber is very strict, he can never lie to Amber, total blackout" yet he KNOWS he never used around Leah.   Bitch, you can't have it both ways "total blackout" but still remember that part with exact clarity.   

And this is why I hope to God (yes I believe) and to Buddha (why not?) and every Tiki God everywhere that Gary pulls the plug on visitations. It would serve Amber right to have sat back and gone along with this bullshit. Matt won't suffer consequences, but Amber should. Please let Gary be talking to his attorney about Matt "admitting" to this drug relapse. 

Does anyone here know if Leah spent any time at Amber's during the month of this so-called relapse? I know MTV footage helps with those Christmas scenes. 

And now that Matt has "admitted" to relapsing, do they really think they would be given permission by their city to operate a half-way home? Who in their right mind would give those two losers an operating license to run such a place? Can a felon even operate such a business?

 

 

10 hours ago, Uncle JUICE said:

You know, the lack of accountability ALMOST makes developing a crippling drug dependency worth it, if you're a total douche on the inside. The Jersey Shore people are the first to do this: blame all abhorrent inhuman behavior on being blackout drunk, and the rest of them are like "Oh, yeah, duh, that makes it okay." I fucking hate people like this, it denigrates real recovering addicts and the struggles they go through. "I'm in recovery," said the asshole with numerous glasses of wine around in his TV show. "Stahtin' a sobah hoce!" Fuck you, dickhead. 

Amen brother. THIS!

Edited May 26, 2017 by GreatKazu

[mamadrama]

Now Matt will be claiming that it's the haterz faults. That all their trash talk made him relapse. He will get to play victim and Amber will swallow it. (You know...the lies...)

[Christina]

Having just listened to the recorded phone conversation with Tiffany, I've come to two conclusions:

1. Matt is an awful conman' just hideous at it. His victims are all over social media talking about how good he is at it, but everyone here saw him for what he is two minutes into his first appearance on the show. That phone conversation wasn't smooth, wasn't manipulative, he tried dangling money in front of her again, and did it poorly. She was just another woman with low self-esteem going through crap at the time which allowed him to manipulate her. His yelling back at her certainly doesn't advance his position. If he was any good at it, he would have started crying when she did while begging her forgiveness because he didn't mean to hurt her, and went from there. Fourteen year old catfishers are better than he is, and I expected more from him based on his victims' claims. Absolutely not ever clicking on the link to see his penis. As far as I'm concerned, he's a eunuch. 

2. The Amber Porkwood parody Twitter account is someone in production. When the pages of his book leaked, Porkwood said something about an advanced copy and it was before MTV had reviewed it, which made me think that Porkwood got the copy as a member of production. That Twitter account is the one who was posting that Tiffany was at the dinner as the date of his friend but was actually a woman he was sleeping with. That AATT article claims that Tiffany had told production about it. I'll never be able to prove it, but hope it's true because it means someone who has to work with these two scumbags gets a little thrill for his or her trouble.

[bounnatalie]

Quote

25 minutes ago, Christina said:

The Amber Porkwood parody Twitter account is someone in production.

 

It is pretty funny! 

I think he is just setting up their next pay check. Couples Therapy, Intervention, Marriage boot camp anyone?

[ginger90]

I have to wonder, with all of this crap about Matt relapsing, if Gary will seek to alter visitation. I also wonder if Amber has thought about the possibility. Matt himself came up with the relapse story. (I'm not sure it's true). I really hope Gary and Christina are clean. Not to be dramatic but, CPS could get involved with this without Gary being aware. Bare minimum, I hope he requests drug testing of Amber, and Matt and a review of their agreement. Amber could actually be ordered to have only supervised visits, which could mean in a CPS office, not just Gary being present.

7 minutes ago, bounnatalie said:

It is pretty funny! 

I think he is just setting up their next pay check. Couples Therapy, Intervention, Marriage boot camp anyone?

You mean copy Farrah? Lol, Amber seems to feel it's the other way around

https://mobile.twitter.com/AmberLPortwood/status/867981339827486720?p=v

[Cherry Cola]

Nvrmind

Edited May 26, 2017 by Kimitria

[BXD]

I have to agree with the people on Twitter that this whole adult film and drug relapse thing is just a distraction from the cheating accusations from earlier this week. I have two questions about this alleged "drug relapse" though....1. Do painkillers make you black out to the point where you are 100% functional you just "can't remember" all the horrible things you are doing (like Norman Bates! <3 Bates Motel <3) ?? and 2. Doesn't a drug relapse storyline make him look SO MUCH worse than if he just fessed up to being really angry that day?

[SuzWhat]

8 minutes ago, BXD said:

I have to agree with the people on Twitter that this whole adult film and drug relapse thing is just a distraction from the cheating accusations from earlier this week. I have two questions about this alleged "drug relapse" though....1. Do painkillers make you black out to the point where you are 100% functional you just "can't remember" all the horrible things you are doing (like Norman Bates! <3 Bates Motel <3) ?? and 2. Doesn't a drug relapse storyline make him look SO MUCH worse than if he just fessed up to being really angry that day?

To a normal person, yes.  However, I believe it is part of his long con of Amber.  He's not trying to win us over, he's trying to make sure he stays with her money (and the show if possible) until that is over.    He knows she sees herself as this great "drugs counselor in the future" and she thinks she knows how to "treat" addiction.  

[IgnoranceisBLISS]

It would be interesting to know when he actually "relapsed". Especially since whenever Leah is with those two losers, he is the one driving them all around. I hope Gary is thinking about this and putting the breaks on any visitations. Poor Leah!!

[CofCinci]

6 minutes ago, IgnoranceisBLISS said:

It would be interesting to know when he actually "relapsed". Especially since whenever Leah is with those two losers, he is the one driving them all around. I hope Gary is thinking about this and putting the breaks on any visitations. Poor Leah!!

The kid is barely with Amber.  Also, Matt never relapsed. Boo Boo is safe. 

[CaliforniaLove]

Matt doesn't need rehab. Matt needs to be locked in a room with Vicki Gunvalson, and she needs to scream "liarface!" at him until he finally cracks & admits what a scumfuck he is. 

[IgnoranceisBLISS]

1 minute ago, CofCinci said:

The kid is barely with Amber.  Also, Matt never relapsed.  Boo Boo is safe. 

I agree with you @CofCinci but unfortunately all it takes is one car drive for something to happen to Bew Bew. I also don't think he relapsed, I just think it is one of the most unthought out plans these two morons have come up with. They didn't realize the impact it could have on the visitation (or lack there of) of Bew Bew.  

[butterbody]

34 minutes ago, IgnoranceisBLISS said:

I agree with you @CofCinci but unfortunately all it takes is one car drive for something to happen to Bew Bew. I also don't think he relapsed, I just think it is one of the most unthought out plans these two morons have come up with. They didn't realize the impact it could have on the visitation (or lack there of) of Bew Bew.  

Or maybe just part of his master plan. Matt never wanted Booboo around anyway. 

[Brooklynista]

18 minutes ago, butterbody said:

Or maybe just part of his master plan. Matt never wanted Booboo around anyway. 

hmmm...very true.  Now he can console Amber on the car ride home from the courthouse. They can trash Gary about what a terrible person he is and how he won't allow Amber to be the great mom to Bew Bew. "Me and you against the world babe"

The long con. Damn he's good!

Edited May 26, 2017 by Brooklynista

[toodywoody]

Sooooo Matt is now saying he was on drugs when the shit in Vegas was filmed. Ok Jan.... First off it is bs and second why would he risk her sobriety by popping pain pills? What a dick either way. Dick anyway but lay off the excuses that your dickiness got shown to everyone. As Heather B said.......

[GreatKazu]

23 minutes ago, butterbody said:

Or maybe just part of his master plan. Matt never wanted Booboo around anyway. 

What an interesting theory. We do know she was never wanted anyhow, what a great way to get rid of Leah by having Gary do the dirty work. Matt has clean hands! Well, as clean as can be for Matt. 

Even though the majority of us believe Matt is lying about any relapse, the point is he put that out there and that is enough for Gary to at least be concerned about future visitations. For all we know, Gary and Kristina may be shaking their heads at all that is transpiring and thinking the same things we are - Matt is a fucking psychopath and con man who will lie about anything to cover his ass. 

Gary tweeted that whatever he will do, he will do for the safety of Leah. It reads like he is preparing people to not be so quick to judge him for what he may have to do. I can see Gary presenting all of this drama to his attorney, pointing out how this situation is damning for Amber no matter which way they go. Either they will have to fess up it was all a lie or they will have to continue the lie about Matt's drug use. Amber has painted herself in a corner. 

[CofCinci]

1 hour ago, butterbody said:

Or maybe just part of his master plan. Matt never wanted Booboo around anyway. 

Neither does Amber. They're soul mates like that.  These two enjoy being called mom/dad but have never parented. 

[butterbody]

4 minutes ago, CofCinci said:

Neither does Amber. They're soul mates like that.  These two enjoy being called mom/dad but have never parented. 

Leah has become the accesory yorkie who doesn't fit in a purse anymore.