S10.E09: Holidazed and Confused

[SuprSuprElevated]

9 minutes ago, Straycat80 said:

Luann also said she couldn’t give blood because she had been to Mexico in the past year. I didn’t know that was also a reason they won’t let you donate blood. 

It was either Mexico, being underweight, or that pesky little um, infection that's gonna require another course of antibiotics.  

[Neeners]

Random thoughts:

• I thought Lu acted different at the Berkshires. I mean we've seen her drunk before, but she seemed different to me. Sorta belligerent or...I dunno. Maybe it's just because I know what was going to happen soon after...
• I agree with the others - I'd never trust telling Carole anything. I think Bethenny made some comment about how it was ironic that Carole was calling B out for saying Lu was a loser. I can only imagine what Carole says about Lu when *not* on TV being as she loves to roast her on it.
• I loved the editors (yes, again!) cutting between the fight and the drunk dancers/idiots. They actually looked like they were having fun!
• I don't like either of them and I don't think either of them 'won' that fight.
• I would totally live in Lu's new penthouse!
• Ramona is a giant hypocrite, but I loved her reading B on the phone.
• The last minute of the episode, though...wow. I don't think I've ever seen anything as humiliating on this show. Just when you think things for Lu can't get worse (sticking with cheating Tom)...yikes. The mighty really have fallen. I'm one of the few that actually likes Lu (for the most part) and I feel a wee bit bad for her.

[Rosiejuliemom]

Luann had a great point when she told Beth that it may have been shitty for Carole to repeat Beth calling a loser, it was even shittier for Beth to say it in the first place.

[Fiero425]

Bethenny's so FOS; it's all coming out! She's unhinged, feels she's never wrong, and her apologies are worthless because she really doesn't "give a FK!" I really have gone over to the other/dark side where I can't stand her! She's smarter than most of these women and abuses them with word play that's just her deflecting! She's a real b!tch! ;-(

[Martinigirl]

Three party events in one night! This is how the other HW's shows should do it!!!!

[SuprSuprElevated]

11 minutes ago, Thumper said:

Why do I feel this phone convo between Beth and Ramona seems set up?

Hmm.  I dunno, why?

[tinaw]

I can't feel bad for Luann and I cant blame the other women for digging Luann either.

Luann looks down her nose at people. She does everything right and no one else is good like her.

I wouldn' want Luann critiquing me either

No sympathy Lu. Your not perfect

Edited May 31, 2018 by tinaw

[AnnA]

18 minutes ago, Thumper said:

Why do I feel this phone convo between Beth and Ramona seems set up?

 

Because it is!   They're talking like these women met Bethenny yesterday.

Edited May 31, 2018 by AnnA

[annewithaneee]

That "48 hours later" closer was everything. I cackled.

I'm into Bethenny vs Carole. They're in the same weight class, literally and figuratively. 

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

Oh Ramona. She had the “ordacity” to give you a hard time . The ordacity?! Never change.

So does Luann rent those books in her apartment ?

NEXT WEEK. 

[Martinigirl]

52 minutes ago, Gem 10 said:

Carole is securing her spot for next season.  Her acting was so,so.

Showing no interest in the PR charity but will not STFU about her marathon....terrible acting!!!

[SuprSuprElevated]

6 minutes ago, tribeca said:

Luanne cared more about being called a loser than being called a slut whore last year LOL.  

This from the woman who chose the tagline "the most interesting people make the best headlines."  

[Fiero425]

Just now, SuprSuprElevated said:

This from the woman who chose the tagline "the most interesting people make the best headlines."  

How ironic! She must have come up with that before the arrest! ;-)

[QuinnM]

3 minutes ago, Alonzo Mosely FBI said:

So does Luann rent those books in her apartment ?

She said she’s renting it fully furnished.  Code for house sitting for snow birds who have a second home in Cabo.

[SuprSuprElevated]

2 minutes ago, Fiero425 said:

How ironic! She must have come up with that before the arrest! ;-)

No way.  

[UMAngela]

21 minutes ago, Thumper said:

Why do I feel this phone convo between Beth and Ramona seems set up?

Felt the same way to me with all of those camera angles.  And nothing about Ramona's delivery felt natural.

[missy jo]

The sheer fucking AUDACITY of Bethenny saying Ramona was doing an infomercial after all of the Skinny Girl shit we have to sit through week after week. The sheer fucking audacity. 

I was living for everything Ramona said to Bethenny on the phone. Ramona usually doesn't make much sense, but she got it right for once. 

[njbchlover]

56 minutes ago, Straycat80 said:

Sonja ageing  ever so gracefully: “ I had sex on the sink in the staff room”.  (Eyeroll). 

These bitches gave blood. Oh boy, Blood 10%. Booze 90%. 

 

In 2008!!!!  What was Sonja trying to tell the contractor - that the sink in the "staff" bathroom was off the wall since then?  No wonder each of those interns never stuck around for more than a few months!!  

First of all, the "staff bathroom (or room)" reminded me of the movie "The Help", and then, hearing that the sink was broken or off the wall since 2008 really disgusted me.

Edited May 31, 2018 by njbchlover

[bosawks]

I wonder how many Lu had to knock back to get that unhinged?

She can hold her liquor so it must’ve been to the point you’d have to take off your shoe to count....

And Sonja, I think I can speak for everyone who had sex in 2008, nobody gives a shit!

Edited May 31, 2018 by bosawks

[BodhiGurl]

Just now, UMAngela said:

Felt the same way to me with all of those camera angles.  And nothing about Ramona's delivery felt natural.

100%. Plus usually they would have a camera on Bethenny to capture her reactions. Ala season 3  Jill vs Bethenny. This is Jill v Bethenny all over again. The hens want Bethenny gone like Jill did.

[Martinigirl]

Okay...rewatching and i swear when Dorinda knocks on Luann's door the next morning it looks like LuAnn wet the damn bed...her jammies are wet in the back end. Ewwwwwwwwww

Edited May 31, 2018 by Martinigirl

[Mozelle]

Just now, njbchlover said:

In 2008!!!!  What was she trying to tell the contractor - that the sink in the "staff" bathroom was off the wall?  No wonder each of those interns never stuck around for more than a few months!!  

First of all, the "staff bathroom (or room)" reminded me of the movie "The Help", and then, hearing that the sink was broken or off the wall since 2008 really disgusted me.

A whole decade! Sonja really has been living in (the UES version of) squalor this whole time.

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

40 minutes ago, missy jo said:

The sheer fucking AUDACITY of Bethenny saying Ramona was doing an infomercial after all of the Skinny Girl shit we have to sit through week after week. The sheer fucking audacity. 

I was living for everything Ramona said to Bethenny on the phone. Ramona usually doesn't make much sense, but she got it right for once. 

Amen ! The jeans at the Berkshires ? Exactly.  I love Ramona's Bethenny shutdowns they have been great since the Brooklyn Bridge. I feel like Ramona plays a very maternal role to Bethenny and they are those kinds of fights, Ramona tells her like it is. And B snipes back to Ramona differently (like a teen eye rolling about her annoying crazy mom)  than she does the other HW.

Edited May 31, 2018 by Alonzo Mosely FBI

[Lemons]

I loved that segue into Luann’s arrest.  All prim and proper in her new digs, transition to sloppy slurry mess in the back of a patrol car.  Nice work!  

[Rosiejuliemom]

9 minutes ago, missy jo said:

The sheer fucking AUDACITY of Bethenny saying Ramona was doing an infomercial after all of the Skinny Girl shit we have to sit through week after week. The sheer fucking audacity. 

I was living for everything Ramona said to Bethenny on the phone. Ramona usually doesn't make much sense, but she got it right for once. 

Do you mean "ordacity"?

In all seriousness, I completely agree with you. We've been subjected to a Skinnygirl car, snowboard, blender, a trip to Mexico, endless amounts of product shots, napkins, glasses, sweetener, jeans, etc. I'm pretty sure Bethenny would have personally branded Skinnygirl red onto our eyelids if she could. Her sole purpose on the show since her return has been to do nothing but lord her success over the other women and shove Skinnygirl crap down the viewers throats.

Edited May 31, 2018 by Rosiejuliemom
Forgot the jeans!

[njbchlover]

49 minutes ago, Mozelle said:

Bethenny's arguments to Carole--you're into clothes, you're into haircuts, omg your Instagram--don't make any sense to me. From Carole's debut on this show, she's been into fashion. I remember Ramona (I believe it was Ramona) gushing over this shorts and lace outfit that Carole wore to a function in her first season. Carole starts each new season with a new hairstyle. Like, none of that is new. Bethenny is bringing it up as something new because she doesn't want to delve into how much she dislikes that Carole has forged a friendship with Tinsley. Bethenny just drops a word about Tinsley then goes on about other, inconsequential BS.

I took that whole conversation as a dig towards Carole and her personal style and looks from Bethenny.  Bethenny almost always looks put together and polished perfection in all her Insta and social media photos.  Carole, while into her own fashion sense and style, can often look more boho-chic, which sometimes can look a little sloppy, if not done correctly.  Carole's personal style is very quirky fashion - not the classic looks that Bethenny seems to prefer.  So, I'm thinking that Bethenny always felt she was more stylish and fashion conscious than Carole.  Carole stepping up her game with her hair and clothes made Bethenny feel threatened that she may lose her own "Queen B" social media status.

[Pop Tart]

Re: the nutcracker, I think that if it were me I would have taken Bethenny’s very genuine excitement as thanks enough. It was clear she knew that D was responsible and was just too in the moment to realize she hadn’t said thank you out loud. A true gift is given w/out expectation of reward. For someone who’s so proud of her hostessing abilities and her ability to make it nice, Dorinda is very quick to throw people under the bus when they don’t respond as she’d like them to.

I’m not a Bethenny fan by any stretch of the imagination but Carole and Dorinda have passed her as my least liked NY HW’s. Oh can I just suggest a change of name for this show? Not one of these women is married.

[Chicosan]

1 hour ago, ivygirl said:

I’d rather be in the living room with Sonja than this conversation with Bethenny and Carole.

ETA: Shish-m???

 

Shism:

ˈs(k)izəm/

noun

a split or division between strongly opposed sections or parties, caused by differences in opinion or belief.

Lol, can’t say I don’t learn anything new from these harpies even when they pronounce the word incorrectly. AND Carole-the-writer didn’t catch it. ?

Edited May 31, 2018 by Chicosan

[breezy424]

This is one of those episodes that I'm going to have view around four times to understand what went down.  There was a lot...

What I do know is Beth NEVER said thank you to Doris.  I would be pissed too.   And then we have Beth making a snarky comment about it in TH.  What someone with a little bit of class would have said is that I'm so sorry.  I was so excited about the gift I forgot to tell you how much I appreciated it.  But no, My excitement is good enough.  Sorry girl.  No.

Carole's problem with Beth was not that she didn't know that Adam was contacted by Beth.  It was that Beth never gave her a heads up.  Beth says she did.  She condescendingly said to Carole to check her texts.   Quite frankly, I don't think this would be something Carole 'forgot'.  As for Beth saying that Carole is now into fashion, hair and instagram.  What is your point Beth?  Like you're not?  LOL

I actually loved Ro going for Beth on the phone.  Yeah, Ro is a bit of a hypocrite but the truth is Beth has a habit of snarking on all the other women.  That comment to Ro at the party was to me like hey Beth, look at you and your parade of promoting your products on the show.  Interesting, there was no Skinnygirl display at her holiday party or did I miss it.  Maybe her contract this year specified a reduction of how many times she can promote one of her products.  Maybe that was part of her getting Bravo to go with that awful show with her and Fredrick.

[Rosiejuliemom]

1 minute ago, Chicosan said:

I took this to mean Bethenny incorrectly used “Shism” for “shit”.  I assumed she thinks the slang word “schizzle” means shit.  She thinks she so “street”...homies...schism/schizzle.  Schizzle, as in ‘fo schizzle”means “for sure”. Ymmv lol

I think she mispronounced "schism".

[LilaFowler]

The Bethenny-Carole friendship, as much as it was ever real or mostly for the show, is over. The toothpaste is out of the tube and isn't going back in.

[njbchlover]

44 minutes ago, BodhiGurl said:

So... it's not like Ramona hasn't dissed the other women's attempts at marketing a product. Anyone remember Jill and Kodak? She doesn't have a track record of supporting other women - so it shouldn't be surprising when she gets it directed back at her. And she knows Bethenny long enough and well enough to not be shocked that she made a snarky comment about Ramona's latest venture. I'd be more shocked if Bethenny was kind and supportive. She's the snark factor on the show.

Didn't Ramona already have a skincare line?  I caught some of the Season 3 marathon today, and wasn't that when Ramona started her "Tru Renewal" line of skincare products?

[BodhiGurl]

Just now, njbchlover said:

Didn't Ramona already have a skincare line?  I caught some of the Season 3 marathon today, and wasn't that when Ramona started her "Tru Renewal" line of skincare products?

yep - and Bethenny pointed out Ramona shouldn't have "Tru Renewal" while also marketing "True Faith" - in other words - she should have called it "True Renewal" to bounce off True Faith. Bethenny wasn't wrong in that case. She knows her product marketing/PR, regardless of her faults.

[Thumper]

17 minutes ago, Fiero425 said:

How ironic! She must have come up with that before the arrest! ;-)

I thought she/they came up with it after the arrest -- to be funny!

[BodhiGurl]

3 minutes ago, LilaFowler said:

The Bethenny-Carole friendship, as much as it was ever real or mostly for the show, is over. The toothpaste is out of the tube and isn't going back in.

Honeymoon is over. What first attracted them to each other now irritates each of them. Time to break up. Get a friend divorce. Be civil to each other and move on. LOL :)

[njbchlover]

42 minutes ago, Martinigirl said:

Behtenny did tell Dorinda that she saved Christmas

Yes, but I didn't hear her tell Dorinda "Thank you" - she said that about 100 times to the guy that Dorinda knew.  Bethenny's comment to Dorinda seemed like an afterthought.  Dorinda just seemed so thrilled about it, and she kind of got lost.  I'm glad she was gracious about it, at least for now.

[biakbiak]

11 minutes ago, Pop Tart said:

the nutcracker, I think that if it were me I would have taken Bethenny’s very genuine excitement as thanks enough. It was clear she knew that D was responsible and was just too in the moment to realize she hadn’t said thank you out loud. A true gift is given w/out expectation of reward. For someone who’s so proud of her hostessing abilities and her ability to make it nice, Dorinda is very quick to throw people under the bus when they don’t respond as she’d like them to.

Not thanking someone for a gift is a really shitty thing to do and it’s something most of us learn by our third or fourth  birthday even if we’re super excited. And I could only imagine what B would say if the roles were reversed. 

Edited May 31, 2018 by biakbiak

[Bronzedog]

Did any of them actually give blood?

it was horrible that Bethenny really didn't thank or acknowledge Dorinda's efforts in getting the nutcracker but not as horrible as Sonja telling the contractor about having 2008 sex along with the demonstration of how she did it.

All I could think of during the Ramona and Bethenny phone conversation was the poor dog thinking, "all I want to do is take a crap."

[Chicosan]

RosieJulieMom, you’re right. I went back and looked it up!  Like I said, I learned a new word tonight from Bethenny. Ughhhh

[njbchlover]

43 minutes ago, SuprSuprElevated said:

Yeah, that felt a little forced on Luann's part.  Better do something for charity, because Bethenny.

Luann has been volunteering with the Red Cross for a long time, before Bethenny got involved in hurricane relief assistance.  I give her a lot of credit.

[WireWrap]

47 minutes ago, Mozelle said:

I get what Bethenny’s assistant meant, but I still cracked up when she asked LuAnn if LuAnn could introduce her to the Red Cross.

This was Bethenny taking Luann's charity work and making it her own. What, did Bethenny think Luann would take the cash cards for herself or not let the RC know they were from Bethenny? Shit ass move IMO.

41 minutes ago, Martinigirl said:

Behtenny did tell Dorinda that she saved Christmas

But she never said "Thank You Dorinda", not even once.

39 minutes ago, SuprSuprElevated said:

Yeah, that felt a little forced on Luann's part.  Better do something for charity, because Bethenny.

Luann was involved with the RC early on, in Fla.. Bethenny was not the only HW to step it up charity wise.

17 minutes ago, Martinigirl said:

Showing no interest in the PR charity but will not STFU about her marathon....terrible acting!!!

Carole did show interest and she donated to Bethenny's Bstrong/PR charity work. Carole ran the marathon to raise money for a charity, an animal rescue group in NY and Bethenny not only didn't acknowledge it, she also didn't donate to it either.

[snarts]

1 minute ago, Bronzedog said:

Did any of them actually give blood?

I think no, based on the Mexico trip.

Highlight of the episode for me was Carole's gold pants.  WTF?  

[njbchlover]

45 minutes ago, Straycat80 said:

Luann also said she couldn’t give blood because she had been to Mexico in the past year. I didn’t know that was also a reason they won’t let you donate blood. 

I guess I can never give blood - we go to Mexico at least twice a year.  I think it has something to do with possibly spreading Zika, or other blood-born diseases.

Edited May 31, 2018 by njbchlover

[Rosiejuliemom]

"Lay low. Dick." is quite possibly the greatest soundbite of the season.

[SCS]

1 hour ago, njbchlover said:

Didn't Ramona already have a skincare line?  I caught some of the Season 3 marathon today, and wasn't that when Ramona started her "Tru Renewal" line of skincare products?

 

1 hour ago, BodhiGurl said:

yep - and Bethenny pointed out Ramona shouldn't have "Tru Renewal" while also marketing "True Faith" - in other words - she should have called it "True Renewal" to bounce off True Faith. Bethenny wasn't wrong in that case. She knows her product marketing/PR, regardless of her faults.

 

And after Tru Renewal she was pushing Rodan + Fields, which is a multi-level-marketing company. I don't remember if Moaner was an actual consultant or simply used her status to refer people to a pal but she was definitely tied in with R+F in some way.

[SuprSuprElevated]

2 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

Luann has been volunteering with the Red Cross for a long time, before Bethenny got involved in hurricane relief assistance.  I give her a lot of credit.

Didn't know that.  I stand corrected.

[dosodog]

3 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

I guess I can never give blood - we go to Mexico at least twice a year.  

I think it's only 4 weeks, not a year.

[Martinigirl]

2 minutes ago, Rosiejuliemom said:

"Lay low. Dick." is quite possibly the greatest soundbite of the season.

Tied with the officer telling Luann he was going to hog tie her

[Rosiejuliemom]

4 minutes ago, WireWrap said:

This was Bethenny taking Luann's charity work and making it her own. What, did Bethenny think Luann would take the cash cards for herself or not let the RC know they were from Bethenny? Shit ass move IMO.

But she never said "Thank You Dorinda", not even once.

Luann was involved with the RC early on, in Fla.. Bethenny was not the only HW to step it up charity wise.

Carole did show interest and she donated to Bethenny's Bstrong/PR charity work. Carole ran the marathon to raise money for a charity, an animal rescue group in NY and Bethenny not only didn't acknowledge it, she also didn't donate to it either.

I think I remember seeing pictures in Luann's thread of her with a dog in Florida after the hurricane. For some reason I thought she was working with the ASPCA instead of the Red Cross, but I knew she was there.

[Straycat80]

6 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

I guess I can never give blood - we go to Mexico at least twice a year.  I think it has something to do with possibly spreading Zika, or other blood-born diseases.

 

That’s interesting. We go to Mexico every February so I guess I can never give blood either. 

Edited May 31, 2018 by Straycat80