Season 3 Discussion

[Pepper Mostly]

I just went through some of the threads from previous seasons, and was reminded that Chantel has always been a thoroughly selfish spoiled child. Remember how she whined about going away for Spring Break? (spring break!). And how she got drunk and was grinding on other guys right in front of Pedro while they were away on "spring break"? Remember how she cried and whinged about not having a huge wedding with a horse and carriage (a horse and carriage!) because of her lies and being scared to face her parents about her and Pedro's engagement? And cried and whined on the day of her wedding because she had nothing to wear? She is terrible. Pedro should run.

[EllaDisco]

32 minutes ago, Morrissey said:

 

Maybe TLC should have TheFamilyChantel and TheFamilyNicole switch daughters. MotherChantel would have a field day with Azan, while Robalee would be so wishy washy with Chantel that she'd have no choice but to fight her own battles with Pedro. 

That would be interesting to see!  More interesting than the Tell Nothing special!

[iwasish]

10 hours ago, Real Eyes said:

Then he should not go. If he commits to going he should be civil. 

He goes because Chantel keeps telling him that they just want to have a nice dinner and get closer to him. She knew damn well her mother was going to start shit that night, cause Karen said as much when Chantel was bitching to her about Nicole.

If Chantel wanted to put a stop to her parents inquisitions, she should shut them down as soon as they start. If they don’t, then she should take Pedro and leave. That would show Pedro that she is on his side and let the parents know that she isn’t interested in their crazy theories.

[seacliffsal]

Well, and at the dinner with Family Chantel and Family Pedro, Chantel went immediately to calling Nicole a liar.  Again, she was airing her business in front of her family knowing it would fuel the flames.  Chantel's demeanor when criticizing Pedro or Nicole is very forceful whereas when she 'defends' Pedro she is very quiet and demur.  

[Lady Iris]

Couple of random notes re: Nicole and Azan at the catering tasting, did anybody notice the blank look of horror at the guy, who I assume is an employee of the hall, at the mention of Nicole wanting hot dogs? His soul literally fizzled away right before our eyes.

You could just see Azan champing at bit trying to gently nudge Nicole to go back with her mom and she's all blissfully unaware how he's trying to unload her now that he's got all her kaputniks.

A big HAHA to the poster way upthread who remarked about Chantal practicing for her coffin. I finally saw what was referenced and indeed, indeed.

I have to say the dresses they were showing Nicole were very beautiful. Too bad she's never going to get to wear one.

[lucy711]

On 8/1/2018 at 11:08 AM, CoachWristletJen said:

I think people are responding to Nicole's choices. She was modeling a wedding dress for a man who didn't want to marry her, and her bosom was spilling out of that dress. And, she planned on wearing that dress in a conservative Muslim ceremony. And, her enabling mother bought the dress even though Nicole was barking at her and treating her like crap in the process. And yes, there are obese people in Morocco, but the obesity rate is only 13% compared to nearly 40% in the U.S., and among those numbers, very few young people are obese and of her extreme size. Also, for a woman of size, Nicole herself is very shallow.

I agree that she would look lovely in a dress that was appropriate for her, but not the one that she picked.

Yes.  Nicole's personality and choices make it hard not to criticize her.  I'm willing to bet that if she was a well-spoken, thoughtful woman who appeared to be a good mother, her weight wouldn't come up as much (though certainly it would be mentioned).  Also, from what we have seen on tv, she lives on fried and fast food.  She has openly discussed her aversion to exercise and vegetables.  This is someone who is making a choice to lead an unhealthy lifestyle.  Even if she is somehow genetically predisposed to be heavier, I'd bet you $6,000 that she would lose some weight if she tried to watch what she eats and moved around.  It's her decision to make, but she should feel bad about it because she should want to be healthy for the sake of May.

Edited to add this: The topic of fat-shaming Nicole came up on Reddit, too.  It made me think that some people are uncomfortable with saying these things about Nicole, but they will gladly snark on Pao's red hair, plastic surgery, and outfits.  It can be argued that those are choices Pao makes, and indeed she they are.  But one could also make the argument that Nicole chooses not to be healthier.  I think the terrible personalities of both of these women contributes to people seeing them as "not attractive" internally and externally.

Edited August 2, 2018 by lucy711

[lezlers]

19 hours ago, Neurochick said:

What's confusing? 

Why do people think Azan is gay?  I don't see it.  He's shady and a con artist, I don't think he's gay though.

Well you could've just said "why do people think Azan is gay?"  It didn't have to be followed up with "I'm tired of folks insisting every black/white/brown man on reality tv is gay."  That was an unnecessarily combative way of asking a simple question.  I'm not confused about you wondering why people think he's gay, I'm confused how you drew the conclusion that all of us "insist every black/brown/white man on reality tv is gay."

[KateHearts]

19 hours ago, Neurochick said:

What's confusing? 

Why do people think Azan is gay?  I don't see it.  He's shady and a con artist, I don't think he's gay though.

I think the gay comment came about because he seems so genuinely repulsed by Nicole, that some people leapt to the assumption that he is turned off by women in general.  There's no doubt he recoils at her touch and is totally disengaged.  But that doesn't imply that he's gay by any means.  I wouldn't want her touching me either.

[monagatuna]

I never understood the quick jump to "he must be gay." I'm pretty sure we've seen it here multiple times, discussing several people, oddly, always men. (I don't think I've ever seen "she doesn't like to have sex with her husband; she must be into women," but I suppose it could've happened.) It's often because they don't want to touch their partners. Hell, I like women and I wouldn't touch Danielle or Nicole. That doesn't make me straight! Honestly to me it's bad form to assume someone is gay/bi because they don't want to touch someone they're not attracted to who happens to be of the opposite sex. No one should ever be outed against their will, whether or not the outing is speculative or known. 

[Spike]

Cortney’s Antonio seems light in the loafers, but apparently they did the deed too (shudder).

[Morrissey]

I like Anfisa which makes me biased, but I don't get why TLC is hellbent on turning her alleged past into some pearl clutching sensation worthy of gossip. Given the fact that she's up against

- Annie who probably made her living giving lazy blowjobs until she met lazy David

- Pao who grieves over her granny by getting her titties out in front of her father all in the name of art, of course

- Molly who is so sex starved that she's willing to expose her daughters to possible harm by letting a 20-something stranger move into her house even though her daughters despise him

- Nicole who is so sex starved that she's using her daughter to threaten her family

 

Unlike any of the above mentioned women, Anfisa is capable of change and growth. She takes lemons and makes them into lemonade. 

[sainte-chapelle]

13 hours ago, Morrissey said:

I like Anfisa which makes me biased, but I don't get why TLC is hellbent on turning her alleged past into some pearl clutching sensation worthy of gossip. Given the fact that she's up against

- Annie who probably made her living giving lazy blowjobs until she met lazy David

- Pao who grieves over her granny by getting her titties out in front of her father all in the name of art, of course

- Molly who is so sex starved that she's willing to expose her daughters to possible harm by letting a 20-something stranger move into her house even though her daughters despise him

- Nicole who is so sex starved that she's using her daughter to threaten her family

 

Unlike any of the above mentioned women, Anfisa is capable of change and growth. She takes lemons and makes them into lemonade. 

Right? Pao sitting there with her smug judgemental smirk, girl you posed for a pin up calendar GTFO! Molly too with her smirk and leg tapping, at least Anfisa didn't expose her children to the likes of Luis. So girl did some webcam work a few years ago big deal. Annie can take 5 seats too. There was a whole lot of pot calling kettle at that tell all. Anfisa is no angel but neither are these tricks. Chantel and Nicole at least left that alone. Edited to say don't even get me started on sex tourist David.

Edited August 3, 2018 by sainte-chapelle

[sasha206]

5 hours ago, monagatuna said:

Honestly to me it's bad form to assume someone is gay/bi because they don't want to touch someone they're not attracted to who happens to be of the opposite sex. No one should ever be outed against their will, whether or not the outing is speculative or known. 

But the point of this show is to get married so presumably if you are getting married to your 90-day fiance you should be attracted to them.  If you are not attracted to your 90 day fiance, there's an ulterior motive clearly.  Seemingly it would be to escape your country and live in the U.S.  In Azan's case, he didn't seem desperate to leave the country, seemed to have it pretty good with a supportive family, so was he planning to marry her b/c he needed a beard in a Muslim country?  It's not outting him.  It's speculating on his motives.

[MegD]

On Azan possibly being gay: To me, it was concerning that he seemed to go out of his way to avoid any physical contact with his fiance. He won't even hold her hand in the car or at home. I'm willing to grant him that the cultural norm in public is avoid hand holding in public. Here is a guy who is supposedly about to get married to the love of his life so he can come to the US and he's just not that into her. Even in the privacy of his home, he works hard to keep her at bay. My other red flag was the odd way that he spoke about the calls he was making on the side and the way they were edited. He never says he was talking to other women, he says people. He does know the word women because he uses it at other times when he is reminding Nicole that women and men can't be seen doing things in public. He also seemed a little relieved that the audio files don't have the other speaker's voice on them. It's almost as if they have been edited to protect Azan. Morocco is still a country under Muslim law and as such, can face up to 3 years imprisonment for homosexual activity. Arguably, a Moroccan prosecutor could have used the audio files, if they contained another male voice, as evidence of homosexual activity against Azan. To me, it has nothing to do with his appearance, but rather with these questionable behaviors exhibited by Azan.

[iwasish]

When he was talking to Robbalee he was rubbing Mays leg as if to set it on fire. Whenever he’s nervous, put on the spot or lying, he manhandles May.

[ALittleShelfish]

40 minutes ago, iwasish said:

When he was talking to Robbalee he was rubbing Mays leg as if to set it on fire. Whenever he’s nervous, put on the spot or lying, he manhandles May.

YES! I noticed that as well.  He used May as his own personal fidget spinner.  I almost saw how physical he was with May (for lack of better phrasing) as how you'd be with a puppy.  "let me keep my hands busy, my brain semi busy, so that I don't have to focus on the (figurative) elephant in the room..." 

[Lynnlynnlynn586]

On 7/28/2018 at 3:14 PM, Happyfatchick said:

WHAT IS UP WITH Sophia Wannabe and Whupped’s HAIR?????  Someone suggested upthread that she colors with koolaid.  (I’m saying Very Berry).   It’s HORRID.  And Russ.... Russ, Russ, Wuss.  The shag thing makes him look a dejected mess.  I’m disappointed with his new bandwagon or pile-on approach to the couch session.  My kindness radar tells me he is such a different person.  He’s swaying to find common ground with Pao, (Like how girls agree with Mean Girl to keep the point site off themselves).   I wish he’d feel confident enough to wear his own skin.  But I don’t know him personally - maybe IRL he’s snide and snarky all the time.

Molly looks very nice but sour - she came in on defense default.  

David:  please.  Please shut up.  Just don’t.  You are a train wreck of a human, Pillsbury.  Who needs your wisdom?  Who asked?  When the spotlight is on him, he goes to auto-cry, auto-whine, auto-excuse.  You are the guy (in my world) that makes me scratchy.  

Chantel’s boobs are alive and well.  Practically a season of their own.  

And PLEASE, TLC, take this AWFUL host out of there.  She is SO distracting/irritating.  Every single time, she gets in the middle of the mud pile and then dramatically swooshes out her arm and announces “we’ll come back to that later”.   Is that a tease or a threat?  If we really “came back” to every issue she chops off, they’d be filming until next July.  

???????

[Rt66vintage]

In reference to Azan being gay, I don't have that impression bc he's so unkempt & dirty looking. I picture gay men much more put together and clean. jmo

[CoachWristletJen]

On 8/2/2018 at 12:57 AM, Saje81 said:

I completely respect your opinion on Azan’s family and was on the fence as well, until Wafa said she was out 6 million dirhans. That was my ah-ha moment of realizing that they are all in on the scam. Wafa uttered the words “$6 million” when questioned, not Azan, not the mother, but they all sit around complicitly, bold faced staring at Nicole after it was said. Even if she HAD spent some money on the wedding, she knows it wasn’t 6 million dirhans, the equivalent to $600,000 USD. Heck, it wasn’t even the $6,000 USD Azan s ahastily corrected it to. As another poster mentioned, if they had that kind of money, Azan wouldn’t be scamming Nicole for the relative pittance she sends. Wafa and the mother are both in on the scam, Wafa screwed up her line and completely exposed the scam to the viewing public. 

Very good point. They're all in on it. With rent being $55-100 a month for a 3-bedroom apartment, they could easily all live for a couple of years on Nicole's money. And, they've probably squirreled away her paychecks from the last two shows as well. Greedy bastards. They're sitting pretty.

Also, they are too nice.  When it comes to Nicole's oafish rudeness, normal people would have some pushback. Lying around all day and letting Mae run wild in dirty diapers... that she's far too old to still be wearing! As far as I can tell, after three visits, she has still not bothered to learn one word of arabic! What's wrong with her?

Where I did give them a lot of credit for being so nice, so hospitable, patient and genteel, I now see it as artificial niceness because they despise her. No wonder Azan was laughing in the first tell all when they showed Nicole losing it. She's their ugly American cash cow. Nothing more.

When Nicole finally wakes up to how she's been used, things, as Mama Chantel would say, are going to get a lot more stupider. Nicole is Danielle with more anger and less impulse control. 

Azan will have the sense to break it to her when he's half a world away. However, Nicole will load up her asses onto the next plane to Morocco. Her mother will weakly protest to no avail as usual. Let's just hope Nicole doesn't have enough money to bring Mae because Azan will be locked up in some house somewhere and Nicole will be outside holding up the tot and screaming, "THIS IS YOUR DAUGHTER! LOOK AT HER! DON'T YOU LOVE HER?"

Local cops will haul her off for a night in the pokey.

She's not smart enough to lure him out and get her hands on him. Azan will be Wiley Coyote by comparison evading her contact because heaven forbid she get her hands on him because she's probably packing a knife from the hotel! Then we would really have a Locked Up Abroad crossover episode.

[CoachWristletJen]

13 hours ago, sainte-chapelle said:

Right? Pao sitting there with her smug judgemental smirk, girl you posed for a pin up calendar GTFO! Molly too with her smirk and leg tapping, at least Anfisa didn't expose her children to the likes of Luis. So girl did some webcam work a few years ago big deal. Annie can take 5 seats too. There was a whole lot of pot calling kettle at that tell all. Anfisa is no angel but neither are these tricks. Chantel and Nicole at least left that alone. Edited to say don't even get me started on sex tourist David.

 

I agree 100%. Anfisa doesn't want anything to do with Jorge's child because she is disgusted with who Jorge is. And, I can't blame her. The mother of Jorge sounds about half crazy. "I don't want to be involved. Anfisa smartly points out, "But you are involved."

Molly is horrified, "But how can you not want to care for a CHAI-OLD!" Oh, she's got her judgy britches on!

Molly worked three jobs and went to school and chased random men, clearly letting us know that her kids were mostly ignored after she gave birth at Anfisa's age.

Molly with her scattered hair, Queen of Soft Pumpkin Porn, the portrait of moral indignation, you've got to care for another person's CHAY-OLD! You've got to get involved because you're going to be out of Jorge's life soon anyway.

No, Molly, Anfisa is going to wait to have her CHAI-OLD. She's going to continue working with her therapist and finish her education as well. Then she'll find a real man who doesn't lie. And THEN she'll have a CHAI-OLD! 

Seriously, Molly, that speech of yours was so inspiring that I'm going to run out to my local Wal-mart, and the first chai-old i see, I'm gonna snatch it out of its shopping cart and start caring for it immediately.... food, water, whatever it needs.

Edited August 3, 2018 by CoachWristletJen

[doyouevengohere]

If Anfisa KNEW Jorge had a child going into this and still chose it; that's one thing.  But she was blindsided.  Molly thought she could force Luis to care for her CHY_OLDS and look how that turned out!  And he knew about them!

[Kath94]

49 minutes ago, CoachWristletJen said:

<snip>

As far as I can tell, after three visits, she has still not bothered to learn one word of arabic! What's wrong with her?

<snip>

Ah, that's where you're wrong.  She had him labeled as "habibi" in her phone once, dontcha know?

[PinkFlamingo]

Speaking from personal experience here because it kind of reminds me of what Azan is doing.  Two of my gay male friends "dated" women before they came out. I believe they picked women that they considered safe choices in that they would not be all handsy with them. When they ended up being wrong about this, they started trying to make me constantly hang out with them along with their girlfriends. The idea must have been the third wheel would act as a shield to prevent them from touching them too much.  My one friend dated a bigger girl much like Nicole and she was still trying to touch and kiss him and he would be looking at me in horror, clearly uncomfortable and later said to me what do I do? I said if you are not into her you need to break up. It didn't really make sense to me until he came out to me later. A guy doesn't have to have obvious mannerisms to be considered gay, and if they are closeted they are less obvious. It is kind of insulting to always look for flamboyant actions to make the conclusion someone is gay. 

That being said I am not sure that Azan is either gay or straight, I don't think it really matters. His mannerisms, the third wheel friend at the airport, the constant holding of May are all shields as many have pointed out. Either way he is not into Nicole and is scamming her and possibly other women and men. Who cares if he's gay or straight, a snake is a snake. No offense to real snakes intended. 

[greekmom]

22 hours ago, Lady Iris said:

Couple of random notes re: Nicole and Azan at the catering tasting, did anybody notice the blank look of horror at the guy, who I assume is an employee of the hall, at the mention of Nicole wanting hot dogs? His soul literally fizzled away right before our eyes.

LOL - the guy at the catering looked like he ate a sour pickle. I wish production had Nicole and Azan visit an Imam.  That would have been funny.

[monagatuna]

21 minutes ago, PinkFlamingo said:

That being said I am not sure that Azan is either gay or straight, I don't think it really matters. 

This is really what I was getting at. Who cares if he's gay or straight? A person's orientation is their own business until they come out. Yes, I know, he's put his business on the screen. He's put his awful "relationship" with this person and his scamming out there. There is MORE than enough to unwrap there without deciding he's gay or bi. He hasn't put his sexual orientation on screen, so it gets to stay in the closet with him if, indeed, that's where he is. The closet is an awful place to be, let's not put him there unless he actually is there.

 

About Anfisa, I think TLC realizes she's grown and wants her to stay awful. I think the other cast members realize the same thing, only they're still shitty, so they have to try to drag her down to their level by bringing up shit that stopped mattering a long time ago. Classic crab mentality. If any of them had shown an ounce of ethical maturity or financial responsibility or any sort of personal growth, they maybe would have a leg to stand on. But then, of course, they probably wouldn't be going after her the way they are. Annie wants to drag her down because she knows that besides Nicole, she's the big loser of this bunch and has to take her down a peg. Molly is on her because she still hasn't figured out that not everyone wants to have an insta-family, especially one that's sprung on them as a surprise, even despite her own experiences. Paola hates her because she's competition in the looks department and has a bit of class, which Paola has no interest in cultivating. Nicole and Chantel are in their own little worlds, I guess, which may be why they're not after her. Either way it's all gross. Anfisa was a piece of shit at the start of the show, but she's grown a lot and I'd rather watch her go to class and shop and go out to party than any of these horrible people.

[iwasish]

1 hour ago, Kath94 said:

Ah, that's where you're wrong.  She had him labeled as "habibi" in her phone once, dontcha know?

I’m sure she learned to say “French fry” “I’m hungry” and “refill”

[Drogo]

Just now, iwasish said:

I’m sure she learned to say “French fry” “I’m hungry” and “refill”

"I'm Sorry" and "Thank You" just don't rank as high.

[zillabreeze]

Just out of curiosity.....does anyone watch Chantal do the lockjaw speak and try to imitate it?  

Do adult beverages affect your ability to do the Chantal Clinch?

Nah.  Me either.   ????

[LisaWl7TR]

21 hours ago, ALittleShelfish said:

YES! I noticed that as well.  !  personal fidget spinner.  I almost saw how physical he was with May (for lack of better phrasing) as how you'd be with a puppy.  "let me keep my hands busy, my brain semi busy, so that I don't have to focus on the (figurative) elephant in the room..." 

Lol!  at bolded above.

[CoachWristletJen]

I started with Azan and figured, why stop there? This is what happens when I'm not interested in what my husband is watching on Netflix.

Edited August 4, 2018 by CoachWristletJen

[CoachWristletJen]

9 hours ago, zillabreeze said:

Just out of curiosity.....does anyone watch Chantal do the lockjaw speak and try to imitate it?  

Do adult beverages affect your ability to do the Chantal Clinch?

Nah.  Me either.   ????

She's like a really bad ventriloquist who just can't get it down, but is really trying.

And yes, I've done the Chantal lockjaw speak...

[CoachWristletJen]

On 7/30/2018 at 11:26 PM, sainte-chapelle said:

Right? He isn't even trying. I am torn on Azan, is he a criminal mastermind or did he simply fall upon such a mark devoid of intelligence that he does not even need to try anymore as she will throw money at him regardless?

I choose Answer B.

[Stripper Glitter]

I seriously can't stand Mother Chantel and the way her nose is in the air all the dang time. Chantel is following suit.

Also I would pay to watch River get his butt kicked.

[CoachWristletJen]

6 hours ago, Stripper Glitter said:

Also I would pay to watch River get his butt kicked.

That would be one helluva pay per-view!

BTW, there is a real love story on this show, and that's Robalee and Joe! Just the way that cranky man's eyes lit up when he saw his wife on the phone screen. He misses her, even when she's only been gone for a few days. Very sweet to see amid the muck that is Nicole's life.

Glad she moved on from Nicole's dopey dad and found a man with a brain and some spine!

I gotta say, Wafa put on a great performance. When Azan and Nicole showed up, she was all sweetness and light. Her eyes danced. Maybe she knew she was about to have an opportunity to yell at them and have it not stick with Azan but seriously stick with Nicole to the point where she'd have to run off to the ladies room inside the Wafa House?

If Azan's family is innocent, then he's cast a long shadow over all of them. Shame on you, Azan! And shame on you for making Nicole pack up that little hovel of hers and give away half of Mae's toys to come to be with you for $6000 bucks.

Edited August 4, 2018 by CoachWristletJen

[jackjill89]

Azan and his fam did quite well scamming Nicole out of her nest egg, but wouldn't you have loved to have been a fly on the wall when they found out she was coming over to get married. I'm sure Azan was quite comfortable taking her monthly payments and stringing her along, but when she insisted she come over there to get married, I'm sure he just about shit his pants. I am sure he blew that interview on purpose...if there was one...or faked the email... anything to keep them on different continents. He was fine having her visit a few times to string her along, but having her come over to get married? That was not in the game plan. He is lucky she screwed up the paperwork the first time. It bought the con artists some time to come up with their game. 

I would love to know what went on when they were gone for a few days. I want to know what was said. One thought -- do you think Nicole knows the store isn't real, and willingly gave the money to the family to pay them back, but is embracing the store story for her mom? Maybe he told her flat out it's over and you need to pay us back. There's something so fishy about all of this...

[Kareem]

I find the whole money thing confusing. She said they were going to live on her savings the year they were waiting on his visa. Then it became the money they would put towards the 2nd planned wedding because his family paid and lost money on the first bash. Then he said they needed more money for the wedding and seemingly talked her into going into a half assed business with him even though she would be back home. Was paying back the sister something they ever said, or an opinion?  I get that the amounts were the similar but there seemed to be a list of things this money could have been used towards, according to them.  It was also said by someone on the show that in Morocco, the man's family pays for the wedding.  I didn't think he was given that money before she got there.  

She didn't like when he told the producer that the wedding was canceled because she felt it was only postponed, she said. 

I'm also not getting why she's so fine with all this. She looked like she had lost her pound puppy when they returned from wherever to discuss the wedding being off.  I thought for a moment there that she would agree with her mom about the countless red flags and what the stepfather said and yet she suddenly turned into a haughty she-beast and called the mom's interference stupid.  Curious but not enough to hope they bring them back for another season.  

[iwasish]

I think he had to physically get the cash from Nicole, so he used the excuse of paying for the wedding , once he had it in his hands, told her that he felt that spending the money on a wedding was not a good idea because the wait for a visa could be a year and they would have no money to live on for that year. He then either suggests the idea  of the  store and convinces her to go along, or he drops it on her that he used the money to rent the store. Nicole isn’t going to admit to her mom that she got scammed, she won’t even admit it to herself, so she goes along with the bullshit story about the shop, and gets snotty defensive with anyone who dares challenge that. 

[JenE4]

Slow clap to that twist ending! I feel like we’ve been M. Night Shymalaned! All this time the Family Chantel had us questioning whether La Familia Pedro had an elaborate scam and an entire business to harvest the American dollar—and it was the Family Azan all along! 

• He has her send him money for years.
• When he can no longer avoid the K-1 visa, he sends a fake email that it’s been denied.
• Nicole throws him for a loop by saying she’ll just move to Moracco and get married there. Azan has a friend act like an official and find a loophole—any reason why they can’t marry.
• Azan says his family already spent $6,000 American on the wedding, which, coincidentally is exactly how much money Nicole has. (Spoiler alert: They did NOT spend a dime or plan a damn thing.)
• Nicole doesn’t take the bait to reimburse, but somehow they start planning another wedding which will be MORE than $6,000. Yet, I guess they were going to use her money this time? (Why not go with the “original plan” that would have cost $6,000? Hmm. Oh, because it doesn’t exist.)
• Azan says, we’ll, instead of saving up a bit more we’ll just blow this entire budget on a beauty shop so we can make more...in many, many, many years...
• But Nicole can’t see this shop in person and I had a picture—but something must have happened to it... 
• And of course I have to put the shop in my name because you’re not a citizen and we’re not married. (Spoiler alert: There is no shop!)
• And, oops, your Visa’s up—and I don’t think it’s a good idea for us to ever get married.
• Azan just frauded Nicole and harvested her out of the American 6,000 dollars!!! 

Edited August 4, 2018 by JenE4

[Morrissey]

17 minutes ago, Kareem said:

I'm also not getting why she's so fine with all this. She looked like she had lost her pound puppy when they returned from wherever to discuss the wedding being off.  I thought for a moment there that she would agree with her mom about the countless red flags and what the stepfather said and yet she suddenly turned into a haughty she-beast and called the mom's interference stupid.  Curious but not enough to hope they bring them back for another season.  

I have compared her to an addict before: She knows by now that her drug dealer isn't the prince she thought he was and that he's selling her garbage. But the half assed high she gets from a lazy I love you, honey is still better than no high at all. 

The wheels in her head have definitely started turning. But she's not even close to being ready for withdrawal. So, anything or anyone that threatens her high is perceived as an enemy. In this case, Robalee who dared to ask a question. The way she spit at her mother is pure fear masked as aggression. 

I think as long as Azan is willing to play the game, she'll be in. At this point, I don't know what he'd have to do for HER to pull the plug on the relationship. 

[AussieBabe]

@Morrissey Azan is willing to play this game as long as TLC is paying Nicole. When they stop, he won't have any use for her. He might not have any use for her now because he has gotten the "large" payout that should have him set for a while. She's probably not the only mark either, so he really has no use for her. She's probably broke, so there's no way she'll be able to come back anytime soon. I suspect that if they come back for another season, it will be like all the others where the connection was bad and she nor the producers could get in contact with him.

[Morrissey]

1 minute ago, AussieBabe said:

Azan is willing to play this game as long as TLC is paying Nicole. When they stop, he won't have any use for her. 

That's a given. I think at this point even the last sceptic is fully aware that Azan is ONLY in it for the money.  

[AussieBabe]

@Morrissey She won't ever dump him. He has admitted to talking to several other women, probably cheated, scammed her, and she's still riding this trainwreck until the wheels fall off. Even then, I think she'll still be there. She has proven that she'll accept anything from him. He'll have to ghost her and probably move. She's obsessed enough to show up unannounced. She's another Danielle in the making. 

[Matty]

Poor Pedro. He looks totally beat down by the Family Chantel. His eyes look so sad. If their daughter was involved with Azan they would have a reason to be upset. I'd like to see the Family Chantel deal with Azan and his scam. Pedro hasn't pulled anything like that. He works two jobs, married their daughter twice, loves Chantel, and they're upset about him sending $150 dollars home to his Mom and sister. Give me a break, Family Chantel.

[Morrissey]

4 minutes ago, AussieBabe said:

@Morrissey She won't ever dump him. He has admitted to talking to several other women, probably cheated, scammed her, and she's still riding this trainwreck until the wheels fall off. Even then, I think she'll still be there. She has proven that she'll accept anything from him. He'll have to ghost her and probably move. She's obsessed enough to show up unannounced. She's another Danielle in the making. 

I think she might be worse than Danielle already, although, I haven't seen all of Danielle's seasons.

But she's a more vicious version of Molly in the making who looked straight into the camera and said "I've devoted my entire life to my kids. I want to put myself first for a change" - and then the audience finds out that Luis isn't the first guy she has brought into her home and that her daughter is sick of being the shoulder to cry on. 

I actually think it would do her good to show up unannounced (without May, of course). She needs to do something that will make Azan think that she's an unhinged psycho and not worth the trouble (money or no money) and will make him cut off all means of contact. Nicole needs to hit absolute rock bottom. That is her only chance to change the course of her life. 

[EllaDisco]

Family Chantel needs to watch the Nicole and Azan parts of the show.  That is how you harvest the American dollar - not by moving to the country, actually marrying your daughter, and working two manual labour jobs.  A real harvester works no jobs, other than the con job!  At this point, it must be concluded that Family Chantel is NOT concerned that Pedro is scamming their daughter - they just don't like him because they had a different image in mind for Husband Chantel.  The fact that they continue to treat him badly is disgusting.  I know people who come from cultures that have actual arranged marriages and the family doesn't treat the spouse so badly if the child chooses a love marriage instead.

[AussieBabe]

1 hour ago, Morrissey said:

I think she might be worse than Danielle already, although, I haven't seen all of Danielle's seasons.

But she's a more vicious version of Molly in the making who looked straight into the camera and said "I've devoted my entire life to my kids. I want to put myself first for a change" - and then the audience finds out that Luis isn't the first guy she has brought into her home and that her daughter is sick of being the shoulder to cry on. 

I actually think it would do her good to show up unannounced (without May, of course). She needs to do something that will make Azan think that she's an unhinged psycho and not worth the trouble (money or no money) and will make him cut off all means of contact. Nicole needs to hit absolute rock bottom. That is her only chance to change the course of her life. 

Sad part is Nicole has never even said that she puts May first because she knows she never has and never will, so in that aspect she's worse than Molly. Molly pretends like she does and goes on to use Olivia like a crutch when her toy boys and pursuit of "love" fails horrendously. Then again, Molly is surrounded by sycophants--like her best friend and business partner--who feed into her selfish whims by telling her she deserves to be happy and have love--even at the expense of her daughters' happiness.  At least Danielle's kids were in their late teens and close to legal adulthood. Olivia is or was 17-18 and university bound. May is only 4 or 5, so she has more years of pretend daddies, mummy's delusions, and never being put first.

Danielle stalks Mo. She was looking for a geotag on one of his pictures, found it, and found the neighbourhood he resides in by comparing something to whatever she found on Google Earth. In previous seasons, she showed up in person to harass him to the point that the police were called. She's that bad and obsessed, and they've been divorced at least two years.

Edited August 4, 2018 by AussieBabe

[Morrissey]

9 minutes ago, AussieBabe said:

Sad part is Nicole has never even said that she puts May first because she knows she never has and never will, so in that aspect she's worse than Molly. Molly pretends like she does and goes on to use Olivia like a crutch when her toy boys and pursuit of "love." Then, Molly is surrounded by sycophants--like her best friend and business partner--who feed into her selfish whims by telling her she deserves to be happy and have love.  At least Danielle's kids were in their late teens and close to legal adulthood. Olivia is or was 17-18 and university bound. May is only 4 or 5, so she has more years of pretend daddies, mummy's delusions, and never being put first.

Danielle stalks Mo. She was looking for a geotag on one of his pictures, found it, and found the neighbourhood he resides in by comparing something to whatever she found on Google Earth. In previous seasons, she showed up in person to harass him to the point that the police were called. She's that bad and obsessed, and they've been divorced at least two years.

True. As much I consider Molly to be selfish and desperate, at least, she tried to get Luis to play his part as babysitting Hazel. Nicole, on the other hand, would probably hand over May to Robalee if a man told her he doesn't want her kid around. I wonder if Azan insisted that she bring May with her for the second visit to Morocco. 

 

And I didn't know that Danielle turned into a full blown stalker. I can see the same thing happening with Nicole. 

[BabyDaddy]

Found some funny memes...

Edited August 4, 2018 by BabyDaddy

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