S07.E07: RUNWAYS, REHAB, AND RETAIL

[bounnatalie]

Mackenzie needs to let go of all the wedding stuff. It's over, you made a choice. Honestly. You  don't need a bachelor and bachelorette party. Just have a reception and be done with it.  They don't seem to have any connection whatsoever. Maybe planning these events is what keeps her distracted.

I also LOL'd about her EMBA on her wedding invite. 

And new Matt really has down what he has to do to keep on the show. Flag scarf, preppy look, etc. Another one who looks like he is tolerating Amber but she is all over him. Ugh. 

[FlowerofCarnage]

Just stop it, MacKenzie! Ryan was one swerve away from having that road look like something out of a Final Destination movie.  You were more annoyed that he was impaired rather than terrified that your life was in danger. Stop trying to push this narrative that you had no idea Ryan was an addict! 

[snarts]

Neither McKenzie or Ryan were wearing seatbelts, while being filmed, driving too fast.  Nice.

Amber sure knows how to pick them.  Say what you want about Farrah, but she's never put guys in front of her parental responsibilities.  Farrah seriously needs to cut Deb out of her life.  She much happier and normal without her mom.  Deb inviting Amber to the wedding is just a pure spiteful shithead move.  Hard to take anything she says about reconciliation seriously after a move like that.  

[Booger666]

Amber crying over the fact that new Matt ordered old Matt’s favorite soup when there are other soup choices?!?!  The only think I like about new Matt is that he is keeping her from going back to old Matt ... for now.

[Mr. Miner]

1 hour ago, bounnatalie said:

Another one who looks like he is tolerating Amber but she is all over him. Ugh.

Let's see how much he can tolerate when the baby comes.

I'd also like to add my weekly "Amber is so fucking gross" post. Thank you!

[mamadrama]

It kind of pisses me off, for Ryan's sake, that Mack keeps making a big deal over all this "wedding" stuff. Girl, your man just "graduated early" from rehab. How about instead of putting him through one of the most stressful situations a relationship can go through, you accept the fact that the deed is done (even though he won't remember it) and focus on his sobriety? 

[ghoulina]

Tyler doesn't like the VMAs? Since when? Anyone else think that's weird that he missed out on the opportunity to put his stupid face out there some more? But, more importantly, who was Cate's friend??? That girl was asking Andrew some hard-hitting questions. Can we get her to host the reunions? 

I'm tired of the Butch storyline. I actually feel for Tyler in that arena, but as a viewer it's run its course. There's nothing more left to say. 

 

I just do not get why Farrah invites her mom around when she knows they're just going to squabble the entire time. And Sophia hates it. I wonder if producers prod her into doing so, since they think crazy Deb makes for good TV?

But, seriously, who puts EMBA after their name on their wedding invite? NO one fucking cares!!!! And I'd be damned if I'D go to a wedding where my mother invited a girl who hates me and tried to beat my ass. Deb is fucking nuts. 

The whole family is nuts. Farrah totally urges her daughter to do all this stuff like modeling, when she should just be living like a kid. And what was with that pep talk before they left? "I've given you all the advice a mother can give; if you mess up, you mess up". Gee, thanks, mom. 

At least Amy has learned how to work Farrah. "You should be number one". If you're going to be around her, the only way to do it is to just keep it calm. 

 

Mack must feel pretty pleased with herself - Maci's segments are so boring that I bet most people turn in to watch her and Ryan. No one cares about the stupid TTM offices. But hey, you might want to learn to spell before you act like you've hit the big time. 

 

But, damn, wasn't it ironic that RYAN is now the one freaking out in the car? "Slow down!" At least her eyes are open. 

There is so much tension with those two. It's like Ryan woke up from his drug haze and was like, "I got married??? To this????" 

Although, I still think he's using. Maybe not as much, but something. I can tell he's using when he's super nice to Mackenzie. LOL

 

NewMatt needs to lose the American flag scarf. You'll never be Cole!!! And I love how Amber keeps telling him that he can't do certain things because they remind her of Matt. What a great way to start a relationship. Of course, he doesn't care. He's just there for the money. New dude, same motive. 

And I LOVED that Leah knows exactly what's up. "Tell me who that really was". Poor Leah. She's in for a long run of disappoints from her mother. Hearing how Amber talks about her daughter was really disturbing. "I didn't want kids, but Leah is perfect for me. She understands me. She does everything she can for me." I've never, in my life, heard a parent speak about their child like it. It's all about what Leah can do FOR HER. What if the next child doesn't get you? Or try so hard to please you? Amber is legit fucked up and she doesn't see it. At all. 

[AirQuotes]

I'm writing my observations in Haiku form:

Sophia

Hair smooth nice and neat

Drag queen modeling lessons

Crawl in back of car

********************

The only other thing I have to say for now ~ Debz OG, EMBA

[Chickabiddy]

Been lurking on this board for a while and have been loving the snark. It's helped fill the void now that 90 Day Fiance is on hiatus. So many things about these people drive me crazy..since like 2009. However, today I have a bone to pick with Debz OG and her whole EMBA. As someone who managed EMBA programs, this drives me nuts. There is no such degree as an EMBA. The E stands for executive - as in the type of program she was in to earn her MBA. She could have also earned her MBA in a professional MBA program or a full-time program. Now matter the route you tale to an MBA, it's all just an MBA degree in the end.

Seriously, Debz, OG, if you are gong to flaunt your academic credentials (and I use the term loosely in her case) in all the wrong places, for the love of Christ, please get the name of your fucking degree correct. 

Thanks, y'all.  I feel so much better now. 

[ghoulina]

10 hours ago, CofCinci said:

Gary thinks the relationship will last 2 weeks. Little did he know Amber was already pregnant at this point. Joke is on him!

I think he meant the door-holding phase would last two weeks. 

 

2 hours ago, AmandaUnbidden said:

Wow that's fucked up of them. And they just keep making Maci look better and better. Even though they addressed the wedding invite to Maci Bookout (not her married name) and Bentley only, Maci was still mature about it. Said she would just send the RSVP back letting them know she and Bentley would be there. I don't understand why they have to be such assholes to her. I see Mackenzie and Larry's handwriting all over this though. News flash Edwards family and Mackenzie, Maci is not the one that has done anything to anyone. Ryan's the one that's fucked up. Stop being assholes and, idk, try to appreciate that Maci and Taylor have taken such good care of Bentley all these years. 

Yea, that's really messed up. Reminds me of when my father sent me a "congratulations" card when I got married....literally to just me. Wasn't addressed to my husband, his name wasn't mentioned anywhere. It was like I married myself! Haha! But I see Larry behind this, since he's got issues with Taylor, for sure. 

22 minutes ago, mamadrama said:

It kind of pisses me off, for Ryan's sake, that Mack keeps making a big deal over all this "wedding" stuff. Girl, your man just "graduated early" from rehab. How about instead of putting him through one of the most stressful situations a relationship can go through, you accept the fact that the deed is done (even though he won't remember it) and focus on his sobriety? 

That's very true. I never thought of it that way, but you are so right. It's too much for him. Regardless of the fact that they already had a wedding, wait til he's been good and sober for awhile before you plan your "do-over". 

[ReadMeLattice]

2 hours ago, mamadrama said:

So NewMatt doesn't have his own place? He still stays in the "family home"? Way to go there, Amber. Of course, her hinky meter should've gone off as soon as he hopped a plane and started making himself at home in the Indiana rental. 

I don't think she has one. (A hinky meter, that is.)

Also, hell no Matt didn't say "When you're done with your man, your husband is ready to come home." You KNOW that fucker calls himself "Daddy," not husband. YOU KNOW IT. I know it. We all know it. It keeps me up at night like that nun demon from The Conjuring.

Edited January 9, 2018 by Lm2162

[mamadrama]

11 minutes ago, Lm2162 said:

I don't think she has one. (A hinky meter, that is.)

Also, hell no Matt didn't say "When you're done with your man, your husband is ready to come home." You KNOW that fucker calls himself "Daddy," not husband. YOU KNOW IT. I know it. We all know it. It keeps me up at night like that nun demon from The Conjuring.

Oh God, you're right. Now I have to go bathe. 

When were the VMAs? Wasn't Matt working on Baby Mama #21 by then?

[SuzWhat]

55 minutes ago, ghoulina said:

Tyler doesn't like the VMAs? Since when? Anyone else think that's weird that he missed out on the opportunity to put his stupid face out there some more? But, more importantly, who was Cate's friend??? That girl was asking Andrew some hard-hitting questions. Can we get her to host the reunions? 

 

I thought the same thing about Tyler but then figured he realized he might get his "own" scenes without Cate.  Maybe he wanted more exposure of just himself?  That is the only reason I can see him passing up the royal treatment.

Agree 100% about the hard-hitting questions.   Girlfriend was on-point, AF.  

[Pepper Mostly]

Amber: "I'm so excited for the VMA's because its the first time that Andrew and I will appear publicly as a couple". !!?? I almost fell off the couch. Honey, you are not Meghan Markle. You are not Camilla Parker Bowles. You aren't even that blowzy lowlife Sarah Ferguson. Get. Over. Yourself.

 

11 hours ago, pheebs said:

Maci and the TTM braintrust misspelled "Los Angeles?" They missed an "E?" What do you think it was, "Los Angels," or "Los Angles?" Hilarious.

 

Right? You had one job! Hysterical. None of these feebs can spell.

1 hour ago, ghoulina said:

NewMatt needs to lose the American flag scarf. You'll never be Cole!!! And I love how Amber keeps telling him that he can't do certain things because they remind her of Matt. What a great way to start a relationship. Of course, he doesn't care. He's just there for the money. New dude, same motive. 

And I LOVED that Leah knows exactly what's up. "Tell me who that really was". Poor Leah. She's in for a long run of disappoints from her mother. Hearing how Amber talks about her daughter was really disturbing. "I didn't want kids, but Leah is perfect for me. She understands me. She does everything she can for me." I've never, in my life, heard a parent speak about their child like it. It's all about what Leah can do FOR HER. What if the next child doesn't get you? Or try so hard to please you? Amber is legit fucked up and she doesn't see it. At all. 

Leah breaks my heart. She's so sweet. Amber is a complete loser. I stand in awe of her absolute, complete loserdom. She thinks she's complex and troubled and fragile and brilliant and misunderstood, not that she's a trashy skank with tissue paper for brains and a Briana level thirst. I amuse myself sometimes by trying to decide who is the Worst of All in this franchise of the damned-but I think Amber is really the worst.

[Liamsmom617]

 To resuscitate a saying from about 15 years ago, watching the “Teen Mom OG” cast get fawned over at the VMAs, I thought, “This is why the terrorists hate us.”  Jesus! Of course, as viewers keeping this show on the air, I suppose we’re part of the problem....

[cheewhiz]

10 hours ago, CaliforniaLove said:

Was Catelynn performing "Love Shack" at the VMAs? 

I thought the same thing.  Her hair and make-up team must hate her.  She always looks like someone's gramma from the 60's, and in her 60's

[CaliforniaLove]

While I don't think Ryan was high during the restaurant scene, I was reminded of this scene from Friends - 

Quote

[Scene: Central Perk, Rachel is sitting at a table and Phoebe is on the couch. Chandler and Monica can be seen outside, she’s lecturing him, and pushes him inside. He then nods to Rachel, and is obviously counting off the seconds in his head and then Monica makes a grand enterance.]

Monica: Hi, Chandler. There you are.

Chandler: Hi, oh hi.

Monica: Hey, it’s Phoebe and Rachel. Um, why don’t you tell them what you were telling me earlier about me not being high maintenance?

(Rachel and Phoebe exchange looks.)

Chandler: (starts to recite a rehearsed speech) Monica is a self-sufficient, together lady. (Pause.) Being with her has been like being on a vacation. And what may be perceived as high maintenance is merely attention to detail and—(He falters and Monica prompts him.)—generosity of spirit.

Rachel: Wow, you know what? That is the best fake speech I think I’ve ever heard.

Phoebe: Really? I’ve heard better.

Monica: Wait, wait, he came up with that himself. Tell them, Chandler.

Chandler: (To Chandler) I’m out of words. Should I just say the whole thing again?

At one point when Ryan was speaking, I swear Mack was mouthing along with his words. 

[CofCinci]

3 hours ago, ghoulina said:

 

Tyler doesn't like the VMAs? Since when? Anyone else think that's weird that he missed out on the opportunity to put his stupid face out there some more? But, more importantly, who was Cate's friend??? That girl was asking Andrew some hard-hitting questions. Can we get her to host the reunions? 

 

I suspect that Tyler did not want to go to California for several reasons. 1)Catelynn would be visiting “Boogietown” and he avoids the harder drugs. 2)He was worried about Butch. 3)He was worried that Butch would steal tools or items at new house to fund his drug addiction. 4)With Catelynn out of the house he can freely enjoy lots of gay porn. 5)To build his case that he is Nova’s primary caregivers when he files for divorce/custody. 

Catelynn’s friend is her new drug buddy since she has distanced herself from dirtbag April. 

Edited January 9, 2018 by CofCinci

[ReadMeLattice]

1 hour ago, Pepper Mostly said:

Amber: "I'm so excited for the VMA's because its the first time that Andrew and I will appear publicly as a couple". !!?? I almost fell off the couch. Honey, you are not Meghan Markle. You are not Camilla Parker Bowles. You aren't even that blowzy lowlife Sarah Ferguson. Get. Over. Yourself.

 

Right? You had one job! Hysterical. None of these feebs can spell.

Leah breaks my heart. She's so sweet. Amber is a complete loser. I stand in awe of her absolute, complete loserdom. She thinks she's complex and troubled and fragile and brilliant and misunderstood, not that she's a trashy skank with tissue paper for brains and a Briana level thirst. I amuse myself sometimes by trying to decide who is the Worst of All in this franchise of the damned-but I think Amber is really the worst.

I agree. As much as Jenelle truly sucks, she seems to put her men on pedestals, but she doesn't seem to think SHE is some brilliant, tragic, wounded bird with a poetic soul and a fierce loyalty that only a goddess could muster. Amber sees herself as Marilyn Monroe, Sylvia Plath, etc. You can tell with all her "real woman" crap.

[Brooklynista]

15 minutes ago, CofCinci said:

I suspect that Tyler did not want to go to California for several reasons. 1)Catelynn would be visiting “Boogietown” and he avoids the harder drugs. 2)He was worried about Butch. 3)He was worried that Butch would steal tools or items at new house to fund his drug addiction. 4)With Catelynn out of the house he can freely enjoy lots of gay porn. 5)To build his case that he is Nova’s primary caregivers when he files for divorce/custody. 

Catelynn’s friend is her new drug buddy since she has distanced herself from dirtbag April. 

See, those thoughts were deeper than mine.  I just figured he caught a glimpse of what she was wearing and didn't want any pictures of him standing next to her in that outfit.

[gunderda]

14 hours ago, druzy said:

Andrew claims he lives in Malibu due to "smart investments".

I think he said that's why the family home is there.  He was honest and says he doesn't have his own place. 

13 hours ago, Straycat80 said:

I thought Farrah got fired from this show? Gawd, she’s vile! And when does Sophia get ‘ home schooled’? The kid is weird but I blame her mother and  Deborah EMBA who talks to her like she’s one year old. 

I think we are not at the point in time of filming where Farrah has been fired.  Anyone know if it happened while filming or after the season wrapped up? 

 

and I totally thought Simon was blurred out at the very very end when the credits were rolling.  Rewinding my dvr about 10 times I don't think it's him but the blurry shape looks oddly similar to him. 

[FlowerofCarnage]

Tyler didn't want to attend because it's a convienent way for him to have some Catelynn-free time.

. 

Edited January 9, 2018 by FlowerofCarnage

[CofCinci]

11 minutes ago, FlowerofCarnage said:

Tyler didn't want to attend because its a convienent way for him to have some Catelynn-free time.

. 

Yeah, little sisters can be so annoying. 

[GreatKazu]

Quote

He was honest and says he doesn't have his own place. 

Baby Huey has to be honest because how else can he explain away moving from Malibu to Amber's couch in Indiana? He did just like Matt, waltzed inside and plopped on her couch. 

I would question any man his age as to why he doesn't have his own place. 

[Pepper Mostly]

57 minutes ago, Lm2162 said:

I agree. As much as Jenelle truly sucks, she seems to put her men on pedestals, but she doesn't seem to think SHE is some brilliant, tragic, wounded bird with a poetic soul and a fierce loyalty that only a goddess could muster. Amber sees herself as Marilyn Monroe, Sylvia Plath, etc. You can tell with all her "real woman" crap.

I concur with every word, except the "Amber sees herself as Sylvia Plath" part. If Amber has ever even heard of Sylvia Plath, I will walk naked down Massachusetts Avenue in a snowstorm, singing "I'm a Little Teapot". The closest that girl ever gets to poetry is those "inspirational" greeting cards they have at Walmart.

Though I take your meaning. If she was even modestly educated I think she'd embrace her inner Sylvia with gusto. So we do have that to be grateful for.

[Calm81]

I can’t stand it when chics (& some dudes) blabber on about their ex to their new relationship over and over again. Have some consideration. You could tell Andrew was doing his best to act like it didn’t bother him. “Oh no! Andrew, you ordered pineapple on your pizza???? Why???? Matt loves pineapple on his pizza!” Stfu!! It’s a stupid thing teenagers do to make the other one jealous or to see how “wanted” and “admired” they are by their ex lovers. No one cares that your ex-scab ate onion soup FFS!

I also loved how MTV is stretching out the ONE AND ONLY day amber visited her daughter into a few episodes. Nice try!

Debra is so annoying and embarrassing. Who the hell cares about your education unless you’re applying for a job. It’s a wedding invite you space cadet not a resume!!!!!

For Debra to invite the girl that tried to ATTACK her daughter on stage to her wedding was a giant FU to Farrah!! What mother does that? It’s not like you and Amber are that close to where “Farrah put me in a tough position to where I had to choose between my BFF Amber or my daughter!” It was done to hurt Farrah and that pisses me off. When Farrah tried to avoid acknowledging the fact that Amber was invited and quickly moved on to her real reason for being upset (her mom marrying David) Debra brought up Amber again hoping Farrah would get all pissy. Sick.

MTV, stop allowing theses slugs to act like they’re celebrities. Seeing Amber and Cate pose with “fans” for photos and scream out their names made my glass of milk curdle instantly.

Ryan was actually being polite when he asked Mack to slow down so I don’t understand her “I won’t allow you to talk to me this way!” Dramastics.

Edited January 9, 2018 by Calm81

[AmyFarrahFowler]

7 hours ago, mamadrama said:

So NewMatt doesn't have his own place? He still stays in the "family home"? Way to go there, Amber. Of course, her hinky meter should've gone off as soon as he hopped a plane and started making himself at home in the Indiana rental. 

He lives with his mother.

[DudeLeaveMeAlone]

I found it interesting they only focused on Cate and Amber attending the VMAs, when Farrah and Sophia were there as well. I guess it didn't fit in with their story line?

Debra is certifiably insane.

Amber made me cringe in embarrassment with her behavior. She makes me ill.

[RamonaSenomar]

4 hours ago, ghoulina said:

And I LOVED that Leah knows exactly what's up. "Tell me who that really was". Poor Leah. She's in for a long run of disappoints from her mother. Hearing how Amber talks about her daughter was really disturbing. "I didn't want kids, but Leah is perfect for me. She understands me. She does everything she can for me." I've never, in my life, heard a parent speak about their child like it. It's all about what Leah can do FOR HER. What if the next child doesn't get you? Or try so hard to please you? Amber is legit fucked up and she doesn't see it. At all. 

During Amber's entire dilated-pupils monologue about how Leah fulfills HER needs, the only thing I kept wondering was "and what if the child you're currently expecting has special needs?  then what?!"  I have a friend who has worked tirelessly during her Autistic son's entire 9 years on this planet to get him the proper care and schooling he needs, all the while nurturing him and his younger sister and being a, ya know, MOTHER.  THAT'S a great mom.  THAT'S someone who deserves a reality show.  Amber can't even get with the program to want to be with Leah, who -- as far as I can determine from a television program -- is not a special needs child, just someone who wants to be her mother's daughter.

Fuck you, Amber.  She positively infuriates me. 
And I really wanted to have high hopes for her once upon a time.

[GreatKazu]

Sophia's hair looks great when it is brushed. The way it was done up for the fashion show was so pretty. She didn't look like Cha-Ka from Land of the Lost like she usually does. 

[CofCinci]

I wonder if Debra added the EMBA to the their $6.99 for 100 vistaprint.com invitations to balance out David’s “Dr.”  I have a few friends that married MDs and added their credentials to invitations, cards, address stamps too. Self-Esteem? Competition? Who knows.  I’ve seen it though. 

[tumamita]

Farrah really did her work and finally got baby Sophia to amp up the hate for her grandma. This is hard to watch. I remember when Farrah would go bat shit crazy and Sophia would cover her ears and say "stop fighting". Now she's a part of the lynching. Poor Debra. She's her own kind of crazy but why tolerate such disrespect even if it is your own daughter and spawn of a grandchild? I know it's easier said than done but SERIOUSLY this relationship will never be repaired.

I'm also disappointed in Michael and his partner. I guess in their minds, as long as she hasn't set her daggers on them then they're in the clear and will continue to encourage her that she IS in fact right in the way she acts. Farrah would never be that type of human if she had my mama! My mama would have smacked that crazy right out of her on 16 & pregnant.

[TeenMomAngerMgmt]

28 minutes ago, CofCinci said:

I wonder if Debra added the EMBA to the their $6.99 for 100 vistaprint.com invitations to balance out David’s “Dr.”  I have a few friends that married MDs and added their credentials to invitations, cards, address stamps too. Self-Esteem? Competition? Who knows.  I’ve seen it though. 

It just screams “DOUCHE”. 

7 minutes ago, tumamita said:

Farrah really did her work and finally got baby Sophia to amp up the hate for her grandma. This is hard to watch. I remember when Farrah would go bat shit crazy and Sophia would cover her ears and say "stop fighting". Now she's a part of the lynching. Poor Debra. She's her own kind of crazy but why tolerate such disrespect even if it is your own daughter and spawn of a grandchild? I know it's easier said than done but SERIOUSLY this relationship will never be repaired.

I'm also disappointed in Michael and his partner. I guess in their minds, as long as she hasn't set her daggers on them then they're in the clear and will continue to encourage her that she IS in fact right in the way she acts. Farrah would never be that type of human if she had my mama! My mama would have smacked that crazy right out of her on 16 & pregnant.

But that’s just it. Debra DID smack Farrah around. We saw it on 16&P, and we saw it on Teen Mom. Farrah has a ton of resentment towards her mom and Debra does not at all acknowledge that she did anything wrong in parenting her. That’s the issue. That’s why Farrah is the way she is. 

Edited January 9, 2018 by TeenMomAngerMgmt

[SuzWhat]

I wonder if DebzOG invited Amber in hopes that it would cause MTV to film her wedding?   If Farrah and Sophia don't go, I'm sure MTV won't film it.    

[DangerousMinds]

IMO an MD isn't any more important than any other degree. None belong on a wedding invitation.

[ReadMeLattice]

1 hour ago, Calm81 said:

 

Debra is so annoying and embarrassing. Who the hell cares about your education unless you’re applying for a job. It’s a wedding invite you space cadet not a resume!!!!!

For Debra to invite the girl that tried to ATTACK her daughter on stage to her wedding was a giant FU to Farrah!! What mother does that? It’s not like you and Amber are that close to where “Farrah put me in a tough position to where I had to choose between my BFF Amber or my daughter!” It was done to hurt Farrah and that pisses me off. When Farrah tried to avoid acknowledging the fact that Amber was invited and quickly moved on to her real reason for being upset (her mom marrying David) Debra brought up Amber again hoping Farrah would get all pissy. Sick.

 

Yeah, that's the thing. Debra doesn't deserve respect because she is seriously unrespectable. Who the hell invites someone to their wedding who physically attacked their daughter on camera? (And honestly, Farrah was nicer about it than I would have been...) Farrah is seriously cray, but Jesus...I see why sometimes. That is some major rage/passive aggression/disordered behavior. It's one thing when Jenelle flagrantly disrespects Barb. Debra is NO Barb and IMO she deserves what she gets.

1 hour ago, CofCinci said:

I wonder if Debra added the EMBA to the their $6.99 for 100 vistaprint.com invitations to balance out David’s “Dr.”  I have a few friends that married MDs and added their credentials to invitations, cards, address stamps too. Self-Esteem? Competition? Who knows.  I’ve seen it though. 

I've seen people put Dr. when they have an MD or PhD. IMHO adding "_____, PhD" or "_____, MD" is somehow worse than that for some reason. Dr. is like Mr. or Mrs...adding MD, PhD or MBA means you're just trying to show off. And adding EMBA means you're stupid, because as someone else pointed out, it's an MBA, just accelerated and usually doesn't require the GMAT. Debz OG is a real piece of work.

Edited January 9, 2018 by Lm2162

[Chickabiddy]

1 hour ago, DangerousMinds said:

IMO an MD isn't any more important than any other degree. None belong on a wedding invitation.

Cosign this 1000% Academic and professional titles belong in germane academic and professional settings, and then they should be used sparingly. Doing otherwise just reeks of rank insecurity and look-at-me-ism. It's just like the doctors who wear their scrubs to the cocktail bar after work. We get it. You  are busy and important with no time to change. But you can be damn sure you would find the time to change your work clothes if they were in UPS brown or sported and Orkin patch on the front. 

Edited January 9, 2018 by Chickabiddy

[nutella fitzgerald]

6 hours ago, Chickabiddy said:

Been lurking on this board for a while and have been loving the snark. It's helped fill the void now that 90 Day Fiance is on hiatus. So many things about these people drive me crazy..since like 2009. However, today I have a bone to pick with Debz OG and her whole EMBA. As someone who managed EMBA programs, this drives me nuts. There is no such degree as an EMBA. The E stands for executive - as in the type of program she was in to earn her MBA. She could have also earned her MBA in a professional MBA program or a full-time program. Now matter the route you tale to an MBA, it's all just an MBA degree in the end.

Seriously, Debz, OG, if you are gong to flaunt your academic credentials (and I use the term loosely in her case) in all the wrong places, for the love of Christ, please get the name of your fucking degree correct. 

Thanks, y'all.  I feel so much better now. 

I honestly thought it just meant that she got her MBA online.

[ghoulina]

2 hours ago, Calm81 said:

I can’t stand it when chics (& some dudes) blabber on about their ex to their new relationship over and over again. Have some consideration. You could tell Andrew was doing his best to act like it didn’t bother him. “Oh no! Andrew, you ordered pineapple on your pizza???? Why???? Matt loves pineapple on his pizza!” Stfu!! It’s a stupid thing teenagers do to make the other one jealous or to see how “wanted” and “admired” they are by their ex lovers. No one cares that your ex-scab ate onion soup FFS!

Jenelle does the exact same thing. It's like that's the only thing to bond over with the new guy - how crazy the old one was. 

 

1 hour ago, GreatKazu said:

Sophia's hair looks great when it is brushed. The way it was done up for the fashion show was so pretty. She didn't look like Cha-Ka from Land of the Lost like she usually does. 

She really did look so much better. I wonder why she's usually so unruly looking. Is she really tender-headed or does no one really care to brush her hair?

[woodscommaelle]

3 hours ago, CofCinci said:

 5)To build his case that he is Nova’s primary caregivers when he files for divorce/custody. 

Except neither of them seem to care much for Nova. I would think they'd want the other to get custody. 

[Chickabiddy]

Just now, nutella fitzgerald said:

I honestly thought it just meant that she got her MBA online.

It could mean that I guess. I never worked for a uni that bothered to offer an online MBA. I may have given Debz OG too much credit for being able to swing herself into an executive program. But, most B-Schools are are hard up for enrollment these days. 

Usually though EMBA means executive and PMBA means a professional program. Either way, it is ridiculous to write EMBA because the degree is still an MBA - whether online or in a face-to-face classroom environment. I have never seen anyone write that they have an EMS in Physicis or an EMFA in Creative Writing. You have an M.S. or an MFA regardless of the type of program you enrolled in to obtain your degree. Diplomas show the degree earned and the subject matter. They do not include program information as to how said degree was earned. 

[StatisticalOutlier]

16 hours ago, CofCinci said:

“Things That Matter” phrase did not originate from Taylor and Maci. Taylor purchased a box of unsold shirts from a defunct TTM Kickstarter.

Well I'll be.  I thought TTM stood for The Teen Mom or something like that.

 

16 hours ago, Mr. Minor said:

What kind of a sick fuck invites Amber Portwood and her new boyfriend to their awards show?

I wondered the same thing--why on earth are these people at the Video Music Awards?--until I remembered who puts them on.  MTV. 

 

16 hours ago, pheebs said:

Maci and the TTM braintrust misspelled "Los Angeles?" They missed an "E?" What do you think it was, "Los Angels," or "Los Angles?" Hilarious.

But at least they're going to fix it!  But yeah, it was hilarious that Taylor was saying checking the spelling is something they need to put on their to-do list in the future.

I also noticed that they were discussing who was going to pay the rent on the keg office.  Maybe it was for show (literally), but it does show some separation of their money, which in the case of Teen Mom $$, I think isn't a bad idea.

 

13 hours ago, Caseysgirl said:

Watching this 8 year old, being (home)schooled by a drag queen on how to walk the runway (and what designer came up with those fugly clothes they were modeling?) was sad - she is obviously not going to be a runway model,so perhaps teaching her some basic skills like reading and writing might be helpful.

And I've noticed that at the big runway shows, the relatives of the models are always in the front row. 

 

6 hours ago, Chickabiddy said:

Now matter the route you tale to an MBA, it's all just an MBA degree in the end.

So you're saying an MBA degree earned in an executive program is still called an MBA and not an EMBA?  I always assumed an EMBA was a lesser form of MBA and they aren't allowed to use MBA, but that's not so?  So Debra should be using MBA (obviously not on a wedding invitation!) but she uses EMBA?  Maybe she thinks it sounds ritzier because it has "executive" in it? 

Yeah, like I'm ever going to understand anything about Debra.

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[Chickabiddy]

4 minutes ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

6 hours ago, Chickabiddy said:

Now matter the route you tale to an MBA, it's all just an MBA degree in the end.

So you're saying an MBA degree earned in an executive program is still called an MBA and not an EMBA?  I always assumed an EMBA was a lesser form of MBA and they aren't allowed to use MBA, but that's not so?  So Debra should be using MBA (obviously not on a wedding invitation!) but she uses EMBA?  Maybe she thinks it sounds ritzier because it has "executive" in it? 

Yeah, like I'm ever going to understand anything about Debra.

I can't speak to every possible uni out there who offers a degree, but most schools offer three tiers of programs. EMBA programs are for older executive level students who are successful. These programs are accelerated - offered on weekends and maybe in a week long intensive every now and then. Students are catered to like executives - catered meals on class days with china settings and tablecloths, etc. The cost can easily be 100,00+ USD  for the program. Most students at this level have employers who foot the bill for their tuition. 

PMBA programs are typically for younger working professionals who maybe are in lower to middle management. They got catered lunches too where I worked, but it was plasticware with no tablecloths. Their programs are also after work and on weekends, but take longer - up to two years. It is usually cheaper than the EMBA programs. 

A full time program is usually the most competitive to get into for younger students who have some work experience and excellent GMAT scores and other interesting elements to their backgrounds. This group has the students that get recruited by the big finance and consulting and industrial companies that might put them on fast track to success, but have them working 70+ hours a week. 

The diplomas all look the same for these students. Details about the type of program they did would only be revealed on a resume or in an interview.  ie keeping a full time job and getting an MBA on the side means an EMBA or PMBA program. If you are the VP for product development in a company, it probably means you got your degree through an EMBA program. 

I think you are right that Debra thinks it sound better to say EMBA.  As for the bold part - totally agree. She is just the incomprehensible crazy that keeps on giving and giving.  

[eskimo]

2 hours ago, Calm81 said:

I can’t stand it when chics (& some dudes) blabber on about their ex to their new relationship over and over again. Have some consideration. You could tell Andrew was doing his best to act like it didn’t bother him. “Oh no! Andrew, you ordered pineapple on your pizza???? Why???? Matt loves pineapple on his pizza!” Stfu!! It’s a stupid thing teenagers do to make the other one jealous or to see how “wanted” and “admired” they are by their ex lovers. No one cares that your ex-scab ate onion soup FFS!

 

In this case it also accentuates the fact that she jumped straight from one man to another.  It's clear she has unresolved feelings left from her 3 years with Matt (pardon me while I heave).  Sounds like a nice, solid foundation on which to build another relationship.

 

2 hours ago, Calm81 said:

Ryan was actually being polite when he asked Mack to slow down so I don’t understand her “I won’t allow you to talk to me this way!” Banter.

It irked me when he said that the roads were too curvy to be going that fast and she said "I grew up here."  So because you know the road means that you know what's on the road around every corner?  Fucking stupid arrogance.  If either one of them is not injured in a serious wreck, being that neither understand the responsibility of driving a hunk of metal at high speeds or wearing a seat belt, I will be very surprised. 

[ReadMeLattice]

Used to do content writing full time for a business school. An EMBA is just an accelerated MBA, and usually it's for older adults who already have some work experience so they don't want to take the GMAT or don't have recent undergraduate grades available. It might be low residency or on weekends, or distance learning, but it doesn't usually affect the reputation either way (sometimes it's high, sometimes it's low)...it's more about how it's delivered, as others have said. Usually it's offered in more nontraditional formats, like short term intensives, summers, etc., but it can also just be a slightly different kind of program than the ones aimed at just-out-of-undergrad folks (like more focused on networking than coursework). Either way, it's freaking stupid. Putting EMBA after your NAME would be like writing "Debra Danielsen, Tuesday and Saturday Afternoon MA in History" because your grad seminars were on Tuesdays and Saturdays.

Edited January 9, 2018 by Lm2162

[Ashlyc]

18 hours ago, pheebs said:

Hey look! Ambuh and NewMatt at the VMA's!

 

thats an insult to the great Shelley Winters! lol

[Booger666]

So I did a little sleuthing on Debra Danielsen, EMBA.  According to LinkedIn she has spent just as much time on her acting and modeling workshops as she has on her business education.  She also claims to have won an award in her EMBA program, but if you check the Univ of Nebraska’s website they list some else as the winner.  Liar, liar, pants on fire!!

[Snarky McSnarky]

1 hour ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

So you're saying an MBA degree earned in an executive program is still called an MBA and not an EMBA?  I always assumed an EMBA was a lesser form of MBA and they aren't allowed to use MBA, but that's not so?  So Debra should be using MBA (obviously not on a wedding invitation!) but she uses EMBA?  Maybe she thinks it sounds ritzier because it has "executive" in it? 

Yeah, like I'm ever going to understand anything about Debra.

Yea, she emphasized "Executive" in a conversation with Farrah several seasons ago.  It was important for her to make that distinction.  It sounds better than Part-Time-Program-Because-I-Was-Also-Working-MBA.

https://www.unomaha.edu/college-of-business-administration/executive-mba/index.php

No prerequisite classes or GMAT/GRE required

Program is cohort-based and focused on collaborative learning

International consulting project replaces a formal master’s thesis

Alternating weekend format tailored to professionals with demanding schedules

Access to top faculty and an active alumni base

https://www.linkedin.com/in/debradanielsen

Edited January 9, 2018 by Snarky McSnarky

[Calm81]

1 hour ago, Chickabiddy said:

Cosign this 1000% Academic and professional titles belong in germane academic and professional settings, and then they should be used sparingly. Doing otherwise just reeks of rank insecurity and look-at-me-ism. It's just like the doctors who wear their scrubs to the cocktail bar after work. We get it. You  are busy and important with no time to change. But you can be damn sure you would find the time to change your work clothes if they were in UPS brown or sported and Orkin patch on the front. 

LMAO! When I was 23 years old I worked for Burger King. I was promoted to shift manager and was so proud of myself but I was ashamed of it outside of the home of the whopper. I would wear professional looking clothes on the way to work and change in the restaurant bathroom then rechange into my professional clothing to head home as I was usually running errands on the way.

My insecurity stemmed from rude customers throwing a few “go back to school!” and “My 10 year old son makes more money than you doing his paper route” during moments of telling them “I’m sorry we don’t serve breakfast at 1pm”. Even though I was in college, I still wanted to shake that identity outside of work because people would give me weird looks if I was shopping around the grocery store with the Burger King name tag on. People are cruel. 

My point of this story is, once I graduated college and worked hard to land my dream job I purposely wore my career clothes everywhere while throwing around the “I ran out of time and couldn’t change” excuse just so that people could see that I had a good job. 

If I’d become a doctor I would sleep in my scrubs ??????

Your post just got me reflecting. I will NEVER judge a person that works any type of job that is honest and brings home a paycheck to feed a family.

Sorry for the off-topic ramble lol. Now, people that wear their fancy career clothes just to make others feel like crap can go pound sand - me, I was just a proud girl that was having a “I finally DID IT” moment. Lol

[teapot]

2 hours ago, woodscommaelle said:

Except neither of them seem to care much for Nova. I would think they'd want the other to get custody. 

From my esteemed qualifications (ie following them both on  instagram),  I'd say that Ty-ty is ever-so-slightly more attentive. I see more cute-baby videos & pics on his, a lot of tattoos, duck lips & Easter egg hair on Cate's.