S08.E03: Bad Guys

[ghoulina]

13 minutes ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

On the one hand, I thought, "Bitch [Erika], just let it go; it's not HUGE distinction." On the other, I was amused that Erika realizes she cannot actually call herself a singer.

Yea, I thought she was actually being kind of humble there - not wanting to put herself in the ranks with Streisand or Celine Dion. She DOES perform. That's what it's more about - the whole picture, not her voice. 

[Juliegirlj]

How does Rinna know she has rats and not mice? Gross, regardless. 

What the Hell is a “ broken home?! 

Erika being interviewed by Brian Moylan was contrived and boring. Who gives a crap. Not me. Once again, Erika films in her “ office”. Grandpa Tom put his little foot down and said “ not in MY house”. 

Jagger is cute, but fast on his way to becoming a precocious child extraordinaire.... Not something I care to see. 

Since when does LVP go to church?! 

[gundysgirl]

I wonder what Teddi will do with the information that PK and Dorit were talking total shit about Rinna? Will she tell Rinna? Should she? It reminds me so much of the similar situation with Erika and Kathryn a few seasons ago. Erika says something about LVP to Kathryn and Kathryn runs over to tell LVP. That is what got the drama between LVP and Erika started. It seemed like the general consensus was that Kathryn was right, and that she had to tell LVP since she would see it later and would resent Kathryn for not giving her a heads up. I thought it was a huge asshole move and hope that Teddi doesn’t go down that road. 

[Jel]

The Erika's dad thing got me wondering if there's even more to the story. So much assholism and denial! But then I though, hmmm, he doesn't acknowledge having a daughter, even though he was married to Erika's mom at the time of Erika's birth for crying out loud! Does he actually think she's not his kid? 

I find Dorit and PK entertaining, sometimes in a good way, sometimes in a cringey way.  I don't know how that epi was edited -- maybe it was a long conversation about a whole bunch of other stuff and Dorit  got around to the Rinna topic organically, in which case, whatever, but if she just brought it up out of the blue, then put down the pot ladle, Dorit. Minus one for her if that's the case.

Rinna, just no. I can;t decide if Redemption Tour Rinna is more annoying that regular Rinna. Time will tell. I laughed out loud at a couple of Lisa's l'il snarks at her.  

[Ki-in]

1 hour ago, VedaPierce said:

And stop wearing too-tight blouses tucked into unflattering trousers with a belt! Looks like she's dressed for her data entry job 20 years ago. Dated, too formal, too tailored, very unflattering and very aging. Take a break from the Business Attire. 

Agree! She looked so out of place in Vegas and at the horse show in her slacks and blouse.

 

I think Teddi married a guy who reminds her of her dad.

 

[mwell345]

On 1/3/2018 at 9:29 AM, ITALIA said:

I'm sure ErICKa's book will be a BEST seller - NOT!!! LOLOLOLOL!!!

LOL You can pre-order it on Amazon.   The summary refers to her as “the beloved star” of RHOBH.   Bet LVP and Kyle would disagree.  Then goes on to say

“As fun and fearless as its author, this fascinating memoir proves once and for all why Erika Jayne is so beloved: she’s strong, confident, genuine, and here to tell all!”

 

https://www.amazon.com/Pretty-Mess-Erika-Jayne-ebook/dp/B074ZKMXY6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1514993022&sr=8-2&keywords=erika+jayne

 

And... not related to the Beloved Erika, but does anyone really think LVP mops up goose poop when the cameras aren’t rolling?  

Edited January 3, 2018 by mwell345

[Jel]

Who's bio is it? Erika Jayne or Erika Girardi? Can it be the both because after the whole federal case we got last year about the two separate personas? And how dare anyone presume that they were the same person. 

Should I even be talking about this? Do I owe Tom Girardi an apology now? ;)

Edited January 3, 2018 by Jel

[pasdetrois]

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How does Rinna know she has rats and not mice? Gross, regardless. 

Bigger, um, scat. My neighborhood was besieged when an elderly hoarder's home was demolished. Because rats are intelligent they are difficult to eliminate. If a homeowner goes into denial and ignores the signs, it's like the tribbles on Star Trek.

Laughing at LVP: "I support a church." Instead of "I go to church."

Edited January 3, 2018 by pasdetrois

[KungFuBunny]

9 hours ago, Pop Tart said:

I like Teddi too. She seems to actually be showing her authentic self. I believe that she can spend $35,000 for her kids’ school because she thinks it’s important and still be someone who’s frugal about things she has no interest in, expensive wine, gambling, diamond bracelets, etc. That isn’t a disconnect to my mind. Even in terms of the horse riding, she’s following this theme. It is very expensive to own a horse that is nerver going to win a thing, it’s HUGELY expensive to own one of the type she was riding. So instead of owning all that expense she’s riding someone else’s horses. Still costly, but not nearly as much as owning. 

Regarding LVP’S age? No way on earth is she only 57. No possible way. 67 maybe.

And I know I’m in the very small minority, but Lisa R. doesn’t bother me.A She does go nasty at times, no question, but I feel like there’s generally a basis for truth in what she says. When she started that whole munchhausen thing about Yolanda she may have got the terminology wrong, but as a general idea (that Yolanda amped up the seriousness of her illnesses, and her family’s illnesses), she wasn’t far from the truth. Same with what she verbalized about Kim. So when she throws out there that there’s coke being used by Dorit and her husband? I mostly believe it.

I actually like Lisa Rinna - she definitely brings it for this show. I also totally believe her story about Dorit/PK being coke heads. PK is able to hide it better - he is the more functional Cokeaholic. Dorit on the other hand needs to consume lots of liquor to take the edge off. Dorit then slurs her words, loses her Shi 'ish accent and just gets down right mean.

[Duke2801]

1 hour ago, NeverLate said:

I'm not sure how her hair looks frazzled at the ends, it's extensions mainly. At least she looks like a woman, and not a skinny male, with two fake globes and big huge fish kips. Rinna without all her makeup and wig, sorry hair, is fugly...

Extensions don't look dry and desperately in need of a cut. So no, the damaged hair we are seeing on her is NOT extensions. Not saying she doesn't put some extension in for volume, but the ENDS of her hair are all hers.   

[ghoulina]

44 minutes ago, pasdetrois said:

Bigger, um, scat. My neighborhood was besieged when an elderly hoarder's home was demolished. Because rats are intelligent they are difficult to eliminate. If a homeowner goes into denial and ignores the signs, it's like the tribbles on Star Trek.

True. I watched this episode of Infested where a poor, older lady's house was completely taken over by rats when her disgusting, frat boy neighbor moved out. 

I live in the country. We get mice. We lay traps and it helps, but we still get them here and there. I can see Rinna and her girls being the type to freak out and say "rats!" when it's really some field mice. 

[Mindthinkr]

My neighbors (in my last place) hated my cats. They had a rat infestation. The neighbors next to me (who were ok with the kitties) and myself had none when the HOA insisted on a pest inspection. Maybe Lisa should get a cat. 

[islandgal140]

Dorit might as well have served that "Moroccan" dish in a bedpan 'cause it looked like utter shit! I couldn't believe it when they showed the table dinner was do be served on. Dishes were just plunked on the table. No centerpiece or flowers to speak up. Seriously, why spend tens of thousands on dishes and not go the whole ten yards to create a tablescape fit for the Gawds? Might as well have been Bed Bath and Beyond open stock plain white dishes.

I cringe every time Dorit takes about the special relationship and bond she has with Jagger.  Why even say that out loud let alone on camera? Um, you do have another child you know. How is that gonna make them feel when they are old enough to watch and understand?

Dorit and PK are annoying posers that make me hope whatever tax authority they filed bankruptcy with is watching but they are good RH material. Every franchise needs desperate strivers.

I like Teddi so far. The only cringe comment this episode was her saying it was a woman's duty to have kids. I thought it was incredible honest to admit to feeling guilty over choosing the sex of their child and feeling punished when complications arose.

LVP seems a bit subdued to me this season. 

I actually liked Eileen, but I don't miss her at all. 

[kassa]

I like Teddi.  For the present I will write off the constant references to her father as producer-driven, both by other cast members and in talking heads.  That's their hook for introducing her as somebody worthy of our getting to know, and I presume it'll die down.  To me what makes her worthy of getting to know is her seemingly straight faced reaction shots in the moment with her castmates -- her expression may be somewhat straight, but her eyes will flash or widen just enough that you can read her contempt.  And then last night she actually brought it out in her talking head about PK's description of his son's birth.  "... ISH!"

Nothing wrong with being the Greek chorus. Half of what we discuss here is how WE would react to these scenarios - it does a heart proud to see someone actually HAVE a reasonable reaction.

Speaking of reactions, at first I thought too much was being made of the "bad guy" comment -- I could barely decipher that that's what he even said.  But then I saw Lisa V's reaction, which was surprisingly unguarded -- she looked momentarily anxious and her eyes darted across the table.  Very real reaction for a nasty moment at a casual dinner party, which is funny because there have been so many horrific dinner parties in this show to which her reaction has been far less genuine/relatable.

[gundysgirl]

10 hours ago, enchantingmonkey said:

Does anyone know if Camille was considering returning this season?  I read an article about her engagement and I thought she said she may come back next season.  If she's on next week, won't that be 3 out of the 4 episodes of this season?  

I think she was supposed to be a full-on HW but didn’t make the cut at the end. 

[TexasGal]

26 minutes ago, ghoulina said:

True. I watched this episode of Infested where a poor, older lady's house was completely taken over by rats when her disgusting, frat boy neighbor moved out. 

I live in the country. We get mice. We lay traps and it helps, but we still get them here and there. I can see Rinna and her girls being the type to freak out and say "rats!" when it's really some field mice. 

I would imagine there are a lot of critters living in the hills along with the Rinna-Hamlins.  Not surprising that they would come inside now and then.  And Rinna would definitely shriek "RAT" at a field mouse.

[Normades]

5 minutes ago, TexasGal said:

I would imagine there are a lot of critters living in the hills along with the Rinna-Hamlins.  Not surprising that they would come inside now and then.  And Rinna would definitely shriek "RAT" at a field mouse.

If I were the rat, I would be horrified to live near the Rinna Hamlins!!!  Poor critters!!  They probably are jumping on chairs and screaming as the sight of those over inflated lips, not to mention the ego!

[TV Diva Queen]

25 minutes ago, islandgal140 said:

Dorit might as well have served that "Moroccan" dish in a bedpan 'cause it looked like utter shit! I couldn't believe it when they showed the table dinner was do be served on. Dishes were just plunked on the table. No centerpiece or flowers to speak up. Seriously, why spend tens of thousands on dishes and not go the whole ten yards to create a tablescape fit for the Gawds? Might as well have been Bed Bath and Beyond open stock plain white dishes.

I cringe every time Dorit takes about the special relationship and bond she has with Jagger.  Why even say that out loud let alone on camera? Um, you do have another child you know. How is that gonna make them feel when they are old enough to watch and understand?

Dorit and PK are annoying posers that make me hope whatever tax authority they filed bankruptcy with is watching but they are good RH material. Every franchise needs desperate strivers.

I like Teddi so far. The only cringe comment this episode was her saying it was a woman's duty to have kids. I thought it was incredible honest to admit to feeling guilty over choosing the sex of their child and feeling punished when complications arose.

LVP seems a bit subdued to me this season. 

I actually liked Eileen, but I don't miss her at all. 

This whole set up reminded me of the end of Wife Swap, where the two couples meet in road side hotel/motel's conference room.  Her dining room is so weird and cold.  

[mwell345]

On 1/3/2018 at 11:37 AM, gundysgirl said:

I think she was supposed to be a full-on HW but didn’t make the cut at the end. 

 They couldn’t give her PK’s spot?

[NeverLate]

1 hour ago, Duke2801 said:

Extensions don't look dry and desperately in need of a cut. So no, the damaged hair we are seeing on her is NOT extensions. Not saying she doesn't put some extension in for volume, but the ENDS of her hair are all hers.   

Well , it looks fine to me, very shiny I noticed last night.

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If I were the rat, I would be horrified to live near the Rinna Hamlins!!!  Poor critters!!  They probably are jumping on chairs and screaming as the sight of those over inflated lips, not to mention the ego!

LOL, and not good, because she doesn't eat. Okay Harry made those pies, that everyone acted like it was the first time they had seen pastry...

[TipseyGirl]

14 hours ago, Martinigirl said:

Pork and Beans (Hunts brand)

AKA Beans and weens.

[VedaPierce]

I thought Dorit's dining room was ugly as hell. The wood paneling was not cute. Nor was the ugly sconce. It looked like an 80s ski lodge room. The table was cold and ugly too. Was this her dining room or eating nook? The table seemed under-sized. Lighting was harsh. Just weird. 

[WireWrap]

1 hour ago, ghoulina said:

True. I watched this episode of Infested where a poor, older lady's house was completely taken over by rats when her disgusting, frat boy neighbor moved out. 

I live in the country. We get mice. We lay traps and it helps, but we still get them here and there. I can see Rinna and her girls being the type to freak out and say "rats!" when it's really some field mice. 

Rinna's housekeeper said they had a "rat" first, Rinna then repeated it. So, I do think it is a rat (or more as they are never alone) and not a mouse. 

45 minutes ago, TV Diva Queen said:

This whole set up reminded me of the end of Wife Swap, where the two couples meet in road side hotel/motel's conference room.  Her dining room is so weird and cold.  

That was not the "dining room", that was the recently redone patio. LOL

8 minutes ago, VedaPierce said:

I thought Dorit's dining room was ugly as hell. The wood paneling was not cute. Nor was the ugly sconce. It looked like an 80s ski lodge room. The table was cold and ugly too. Was this her dining room or eating nook? The table seemed under-sized. Lighting was harsh. Just weird. 

That was the patio, not the dining room. LOL

[dosodog]

4 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

It seems it has meat:  http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/season-8/videos/dorit-kemsley-walks-us-through-her-signature

Teddi wrote it was delicious:  P.S. Dorit is an excellent cook. The dinner was super flavorful and beyond yummy.

I used to feel less than, if I cooked something that didn't look like the picture or wasn't "pretty".

Then one day, as I'm whining about how the food didn't look right, Stupendous Man walked into the kitchen and said to me:

All that matters is how it tastes.  Because in the end?  It looks the same no matter how pretty it started.....

My Stupendous Man was very wise.  If a little gross.

[film noire]

1 hour ago, Mindthinkr said:

Maybe Lisa should get a cat. 

And call it "Pat, the puss"? :)

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for Dorit as her accent is Shittish

LOL

Edited January 3, 2018 by film noire

[MyAimIsTrue]

1 hour ago, islandgal140 said:

I like Teddi so far. The only cringe comment this episode was her saying it was a woman's duty to have kids.

I like her too, and speaking as someone who is childfree by choice I wasn't put off by her comment as it seemed to me she was referring to herself and the societal pressure placed on women of a certain age in general to procreate. 

[lunastartron]

12 hours ago, Drumpf1737 said:

Being "fake" is smiling and being nice to people even when they behave like assholes towards you (IMO). What the housewives think is cold is the way normal people act when encountering people they don't want to interact with but have to i.e. shitty coworkers.

PK and Dorit really need to stop talking in front of Jagger if he walks into dinner and calls Erika "bad guy". What was interesting in that moment is you suddenly saw the mask slip; I think he genuinely hurt her feelings.

I think Dorit is getting the villain edit inadvertently because she's dumb and nasty. 

Another boring episode but looks like Teddi is gonna bring the heat next week.

Sensitive souls such as Erika are much more comfortable trucking in epithets like "fucking c*nt" 

[TattleTeeny]

1 hour ago, MyAimIsTrue said:

I like her too, and speaking as someone who is childfree by choice I wasn't put off by her comment as it seemed to me she was referring to herself and the societal pressure placed on women of a certain age in general to procreate. 

Eh, maybe. But I heard a sweeping generalization (not unlike Erika's much maligned "all women want an alter ego" business). Doesn't make her a bad person, IMO--just kind of ignorant at worst and, at best, someone who accidentally misspoke (like everyone does at some point).

Edited January 3, 2018 by TattleTeeny

[ghoulina]

1 hour ago, TV Diva Queen said:

This whole set up reminded me of the end of Wife Swap, where the two couples meet in road side hotel/motel's conference room.  Her dining room is so weird and cold.  

I didn't think that was her dining room. I thought they were outside, but it looked like it was partially sheltered? 

[islandgal140]

1 hour ago, TV Diva Queen said:

This whole set up reminded me of the end of Wife Swap, where the two couples meet in road side hotel/motel's conference room.  Her dining room is so weird and cold.  

Dorit and co., were actually dining outside in their renovated "backyard." I like the wood but I think there is too much of it. In my estimation if you can't even tell you are outdoors, than you did too much. 

[gundysgirl]

13 minutes ago, ghoulina said:

I didn't think that was her dining room. I thought they were outside, but it looked like it was partially sheltered? 

I think you are right. It was so strange because there was no sense of being outdoors at all. 

[TV Diva Queen]

I got quoted about 4 times about my weird dining room comment.  How the heck did I miss that they were outside.  I saw her put the guloush in the bowl in the kitchen, and then I must have zoned out......so now they're outside eating on Hermes.  Only LVP and her beautiful yard can get away with that.  Kyle too.  Not Doritiot

[Miss Bones]

I was never too into "The Hills" but my best friend was, so I've seen enough, and I realized last night that Dorit and PK remind me of Heidi Montag and Spencer Pratt.

[MaggieG]

$19,000.00 for plates?! I'll stick with my $60 dinner set from Target. PK was so rude at dinner, he didn't even wait until everyone was served and Dorit had sat down, he started eating immediately.

I didn't care too much about Erika's father drama but she looked amazing in that scene. Minimal make-up and her hair down. She does have beautiful skin and very pretty eyes.

I follow Kyle on Instagram and she posted a lot during her Croatia trip, both pics and on Instagram story. It looked like a fun trip.

[nexxie]

It seems like yesterday when Kyle redid her home with the help of Faye - now she’s pulling up those hardwood floors?!

[ghoulina]

24 minutes ago, gundysgirl said:

I think you are right. It was so strange because there was no sense of being outdoors at all. 

Agreed. Like islandgal said, if you can't even tell your outdoors, it's too much. The only reason I knew they were outside, is because I was looking beyond them, to the rest of the patio, where it was a bit more obvious. 

 

8 minutes ago, MaggieG said:

I follow Kyle on Instagram and she posted a lot during her Croatia trip, both pics and on Instagram story. It looked like a fun trip.

Good call. I don't follow her, but I want to go check out her pics. I'd love to see more of Croatia. 

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

6 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

 

Teddi wrote it was delicious:  P.S. Dorit is an excellent cook. The dinner was super flavorful and beyond yummy.

Teddi has manners. I feel like maybe Dorito made it for health reasons or because maybe Teddi had a special dietary request or plan she follows. And that's nice. Personally I could not have stomached it past the visual but if Teddi was able to, she said the right thing in her PS. 

5 hours ago, VedaPierce said:

And stop wearing too-tight blouses tucked into unflattering trousers with a belt! Looks like she's dressed for her data entry job 20 years ago. Dated, too formal, too tailored, very unflattering and very aging. Take a break from the Business Attire. 

Whoever styles Lisa must really hate her. She looks like a Jackie Collins Dynasty reject combo. She needs to long bob her hair and get it a bit darker!

4 hours ago, gundysgirl said:

I wonder what Teddi will do with the information that PK and Dorit were talking total shit about Rinna? Will she tell Rinna? Should she? It reminds me so much of the similar situation with Erika and Kathryn a few seasons ago. Erika says something about LVP to Kathryn and Kathryn runs over to tell LVP. That is what got the drama between LVP and Erika started. It seemed like the general consensus was that Kathryn was right, and that she had to tell LVP since she would see it later and would resent Kathryn for not giving her a heads up. I thought it was a huge asshole move and hope that Teddi doesn’t go down that road. 

I think Teddi will stay in her own lane. The time will come when Rinna disses Dorito to Teddi and when  it comes up she'll circle it back to "you two need to talk especially after you made up on the big Ferris wheel"- same thing she said to Dorito. Saying the same thing to both people is always the right way to go! With all those years in the horse industry I am telling you she knows about drama and discretion and how to not step in drama. Visit a web chat site called horse show diva for a sample! Make the RH look like nuns. 

Edited January 3, 2018 by Alonzo Mosely FBI

[Mindthinkr]

@Alonzo Mosely FBI  As a fellow rider I have a question for you. Do you think that she was put on push button horses to ensure that she got a win for the filming? Also usually Hunter fences are 3'6" and those looked to only be about 2'8"-3'. IMO she had a very forward seat. 

[Baltimore Betty]

4 minutes ago, MaggieG said:

$19,000.00 for plates?! I'll stick with my $60 dinner set from Target. PK was so rude at dinner, he didn't even wait until everyone was served and Dorit had sat down, he started eating immediately.

If we ever see those dishes again it will be a miracle...my guess is they were returned.  Does anyone need a dinner plate for $450?  By all the bags she had it looked as tho she bought service for 12 but her main course was not served in a matching serving piece, so tacky, lol.

Not only was PK rude about eating before everyone was seated but he sort of barked at Dorit about how it's time to serve dinner, he did the birthday cake with the daughter and as soon as she blew out the candle you could hear him say "hurry up and get ready."  He seems like a controller.

13 minutes ago, nexxie said:

It seems like yesterday when Kyle redid her home with the help of Faye - now she’s pulling up those hardwood floors?!

I know!  Is Kyle snubbing Faye by not using her for her renovation or were they not happy how the house looked?  I like her house the most out of all of the housewives.  

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

1 minute ago, Mindthinkr said:

@Alonzo Mosely FBI  As a fellow rider I have a question for you. Do you think that she was put on push button horses to ensure that she got a win for the filming? Also usually Hunter fences are 3'6" and those looked to only be about 2'8"-3'. IMO she had a very forward seat. 

The bay is a VERY nice horse that was well prepared for her, nicer than the mare. I looked up the results for the Del Mar Summer Festival (July 19-23 ish which corresponds w/after Dorito's bday being in July) and it's all there. The bay had a first and a 6th and the other mare had a first. I thought she rode very well and took her rounds very seriously. She rides like someone who rides very well but does not ride every day anymore, but used to. I am pretty sure the A/A hunters are  at least 3'. 

I think she is an ex pro who leases nice horses so she can enjoy them and Balmoral's benefit is she showcases their sale horses in amateur divisions which they can't do, and they make $ from her lease and show fees and she is nice to have around. My opinion!

[Mindthinkr]

2 minutes ago, Alonzo Mosely FBI said:

I thought she rode very well and took her rounds very seriously.

I agree with this. I just (being picky here as I have judged horse shows after my riding career) thought that she was leaning a bit too forward in her shoulders but realize that it wasn't an equitation class. I hope they showcase more of these women's riding (her and LVP for instance). 

They ought to do a Barn Housewives show. It really would pale these Howives by comparison. 

[Diane Mars]

1 hour ago, film noire said:

And call it "Pat, the puss"? :)

LOL

OMG ! I will remember that ! What a good idea for a Kitten's name <3

[NeverLate]

4 hours ago, ghoulina said:

Yea, I thought she was actually being kind of humble there - not wanting to put herself in the ranks with Streisand or Celine Dion. She DOES perform. That's what it's more about - the whole picture, not her voice. 

LOL, oh yeah, she's really famous..rofl.

[Baltimore Betty]

10 minutes ago, Mindthinkr said:

@Alonzo Mosely FBI  As a fellow rider I have a question for you. Do you think that she was put on push button horses to ensure that she got a win for the filming? Also usually Hunter fences are 3'6" and those looked to only be about 2'8"-3'. IMO she had a very forward seat. 

Of course it was a set up for Teddi to win.  I got the impression that Teddi does not own a horse, honestly spending 6 digits on a horse seems nuts (when many horse rescues have beautiful racing thoroughbreds rescued from kill pens) unless you are going to the Olympics or taking your horse via Tex Sutton to Europe or Palm Beach for shows.  

[NeverLate]

4 minutes ago, Mindthinkr said:

I agree with this. I just (being picky here as I have judged horse shows after my riding career) thought that she was leaning a bit too forward in her shoulders but realize that it wasn't an equitation class. I hope they showcase more of these women's riding (her and LVP for instance). 

I'd love that, the reason I love LVP, is her standing up for animals! I'll take them over humans any day, they are loyal and they don't judge.

 

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I got the impression that Teddi does not own a horse

 

I thought that's what she said, that others own the horse.

[gundysgirl]

39 minutes ago, nexxie said:

It seems like yesterday when Kyle redid her home with the help of Faye - now she’s pulling up those hardwood floors?!

Oh how time flies when you are having fun! Kyle did the reveal on the renovations in season 3, so it was 5 years ago. I am not sure how much of the house Faye was responsible for outside of that terrible looking dining room. 

[Teddybear]

3 hours ago, Duke2801 said:

Extensions don't look dry and desperately in need of a cut. So no, the damaged hair we are seeing on her is NOT extensions. Not saying she doesn't put some extension in for volume, but the ENDS of her hair are all hers.   

Plus we've seen her many times with hot rollers in her hair.  That will damage the ends.  

[ButterQueen]

3 hours ago, Duke2801 said:

Extensions don't look dry and desperately in need of a cut. So no, the damaged hair we are seeing on her is NOT extensions. Not saying she doesn't put some extension in for volume, but the ENDS of her hair are all hers.   

I don't think LisaV's hair looks dry, nor do I think she has an enormous butt.  She has a normal woman's figure, imo.

[Duke2801]

5 minutes ago, ButterQueen said:

I don't think LisaV's hair looks dry, nor do I think she has an enormous butt.  She has a normal woman's figure, imo.

I didn't say she had a big ass.  And I do think her hair looks desperately in need of a good trim, so we can agree to disagree on that.  

Whatever the actual "state" of her hair health, I STILL think she needs a more current, updated look.  

[ButterQueen]

2 minutes ago, Duke2801 said:

I didn't say she had a big ass.  And I do think her hair looks desperately in need of a good trim, so we can agree to disagree on that.  

Whatever the actual "state" of her hair health, I STILL think she needs a more current, updated look.  

No, you did not.  Another poster did.  I just added it on to my hair comment.  Sorry.