Artsda September 30, 2015 Share September 30, 2015 Kristen's "dead" but no body so she's for sure out there. EJ was injected with something and taken from the morgue so he's out there and it's left open as not dead too. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1553498
DisneyBoy September 30, 2015 Share September 30, 2015 Salem has a gay club? Doubtful. Will was the killer!!!! 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1553557
Artsda September 30, 2015 Share September 30, 2015 Yes, there's a gay club. It's where CM's Will was during the Stefano's murder. It was his alibi he didn't want to tell the cops because of it being a gay bar. When his alibi at the gay bar told the police, It is what outed him. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1553607
Sandman September 30, 2015 Share September 30, 2015 Well, Dena Higley, who was brought back to help correct the show just loves the actor who plays Rafe. How is this even possible?!? And I sincerely hope that they're not giving Battery-Operated BOllie two different personalities. He barely has one! 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1553659
DisneyBoy September 30, 2015 Share September 30, 2015 Sandman, you are right on the money. Why would Will's alibi out him so publicly? Wouldn't only Grampa Roman and Hope know? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1555059
swtrgrl September 30, 2015 Share September 30, 2015 (edited) Why would Will's alibi out him so publicly? Wouldn't only Grampa Roman and Hope know? I just watched it yesterday (again)...when the press starts asking why the high profile murder suspect was released b/c of alibi...it gets put out in the paper. They commented that they talked less about Stefano's murderer still being out there then they did the fact a Horton was gay. Salacious headlines, etc... Carrie tried to get Justin to stop it a bit before it happened but no dice. [ETA: Hope wasn't in the room...it was Rafe and Carrie and Sami...then Roman came in] BTW: Kristoferson's son was hot in those scenes. I didn't think he was in the "first kiss" scene. Hair cuts make all the difference, people. LOL Edited September 30, 2015 by swtrgrl 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1555139
swtrgrl October 1, 2015 Share October 1, 2015 (edited) Can I vent how much I hate TPTB for killing my beloved Will Horton ? Because I do. It's almost a literal hate, too. This is way worse than Joss killing Tara, imo. Edited October 1, 2015 by swtrgrl 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1558067
Apprentice79 October 1, 2015 Share October 1, 2015 I would expect Sami to be hysterical, this was her firstborn son. Will has always been her achilles heel..I remember when he was born and it is going to tough to wath Lumi bury their boy..Marlena and Kate are going to be devastated....Especially Kate because she brought the Weston's to Salem... 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1558077
Apprentice79 October 1, 2015 Share October 1, 2015 (edited) I agree with you..It is awful how they are killing Will. I will no longer watch the show. I may come here sporadically to talk to you guys..I hate the message that the show is sending by killing Will and giving Ari back to Gabi. So that she can be raised in a Heterosexual home..I am pretty sure Gabi will meet a guy and form a new family with him alongside Ari..Her two daddies will be forgotten... I would have preferred that Will is presumed dead by the people of Salem.Sonny comes back for the funeral and takes Arianna away with him..Arianna going off in the sunset with the first person that she saw would have been a fitting end for both of them.. Edited October 1, 2015 by Apprentice79 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1558094
shesajar October 1, 2015 Share October 1, 2015 Sami is hysterical no matter what the situation, though. So, spoiler tagging just in case, Will dies?? . If so, for my next UO: YES! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1558141
LeftPhalange October 1, 2015 Share October 1, 2015 I hate that Sami's return will be about dealing with her son being murdered. Her exit story was tainted by EJ cheating on her with that horrid piece of filth and then getting murdered (I was fine with him being murdered) and now her return story will be tainted as well. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1558161
swtrgrl October 1, 2015 Share October 1, 2015 Yes on 10/9. I'm going to be more devastated than Sami. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1558572
swtrgrl October 1, 2015 Share October 1, 2015 Everything about Sami's departure and return has been tainted. Departure: given up to the alter of Abbi. Return: devestation She should be coming back for Alice's death or something. Not her son's death. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1558587
kitmerlot1213 October 1, 2015 Share October 1, 2015 Can I vent how much I hate TPTB for killing my beloved Will Horton ? Because I do. It's almost a literal hate, too. This is way worse than Joss killing Tara, imo. Slightly off topic, but the "Joss killing Tara" comment threw me until I realized you were talking about Buffy and to me, the worst thing Joss ever did was bring on Dawn Summers as Buffy's sister. He had to retconn three years of established cannon and the payoff wasn't that interesting. Back on topic, I am afraid that Will's death isn't going to be that dramatic because GW will not be able to pull it off and that actually makes me the angriest. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1558643
Apprentice79 October 1, 2015 Share October 1, 2015 (edited) I am hoping that Will is found dead and the killing is not shown, so that the show can have an out, in case there is a backlash over it..I think that Ken Corday is taking a huge risk. Guy Wilson may not have been popular, but that does not mean that the character of Will has to be killed off in such a grotesque manner...This coming November will make it 20 years, since Will was born on the show..The only legacy child that actually grew up in real time..The show only aged him by 2 years... Edited October 1, 2015 by Apprentice79 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1558715
jlrd2000 October 1, 2015 Share October 1, 2015 I would have preferred that Will is presumed dead by the people of Salem.Sonny comes back for the funeral and takes Arianna away with him..Arianna going off in the sunset with the first person that she saw would have been a fitting end for both of them.. I wish so badly that this could happen. If there has to be an end to Will, I would prefer a scenario such as this. Gabi going to live in the same city as Sonny or Sonny staying in Salem would work for me too. Unless things change, baby Ari will be fatherless :( I would have preferred that Will is presumed dead by the people of Salem.Sonny comes back for the funeral and takes Arianna away with him..Arianna going off in the sunset with the first person that she saw would have been a fitting end for both of them.. I wish so badly that this could happen. If there has to be an end to Will, I would prefer a scenario such as this. Gabi going to live in the same city as Sonny or Sonny staying in Salem would work for me too. Unless things change, baby Ari will be fatherless :( Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1559673
swtrgrl October 2, 2015 Share October 2, 2015 (edited) Ali says she's back on 10/12 so... Will gets killed Friday, 10/9 and Mama Sami shows up Monday, 10/12. I really wish I had not found this out. What is the point of using spoiler tags if people are immediately going to start discussing the info in the spoiler without tagging it? I remember at TWoP sometimes scrolling through what seemed like pages and pages of black spoiler bars. Is discussion of spoilers OK in every thread except the current plots one? I won't be coming to this thread again if it's allowed here. You'e in the SPOILERS AND SHOCKERS thread. Edited October 2, 2015 by radishcake 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1561471
Lastwaltz October 2, 2015 Share October 2, 2015 Slightly off topic, but the "Joss killing Tara" comment threw me until I realized you were talking about Buffy and to me, the worst thing Joss ever did was bring on Dawn Summers as Buffy's sister. He had to retconn three years of established cannon and the payoff wasn't that interesting. Agreed! I agree with you..It is awful how they are killing Will. I will no longer watch the show. I may come here sporadically to talk to you guys.. Stay, Apprentice, stay! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1561485
radishcake October 2, 2015 Share October 2, 2015 Ali says she's back on 10/12 so... Will gets killed Friday, 10/9 and Mama Sami shows up Monday, 10/12. You'e in the SPOILERS AND SHOCKERS thread. Actually that person WAS NOT in the spoilers and shockers thread when they read that. The post got moved along with a bunch of spoilers that WERE NOT in the correct thread. That's part of why the thread got locked yesterday. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1561501
Lastwaltz October 2, 2015 Share October 2, 2015 Yeesh, I haven't been locked out of a thread since the heady days of American Idol over at TWoP (#teamCookalltheway). Sorry for all the extra work, Radish -- I'll be more watchful of where I'm posting : ) 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1561514
TeeVee329 October 2, 2015 Share October 2, 2015 Back on topic, I am afraid that Will's death isn't going to be that dramatic because GW will not be able to pull it off and that actually makes me the angriest. I think what sinks a lot of the drama is the two people who will probably grieve the hardest - Sami and Sonny - are only making drop-in appearances. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1561539
Apprentice79 October 2, 2015 Share October 2, 2015 Exactly! I think Sonny grieving for Will and what might have been, while struggling to raise Ari as a single father would have been more compelling..Especially if he still feels drawn to Paul in spite of everything. I feel it is insulting that Gabi is conveniently released out of prison, Sonny is in exiled in Paris and Will is being murdered to make way for a more acceptable family that conforms to Heteronormative values.... 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1561563
swtrgrl October 2, 2015 Share October 2, 2015 Actually that person WAS NOT in the spoilers and shockers thread when they read that. The post got moved along with a bunch of spoilers that WERE NOT in the correct thread. That's part of why the thread got locked yesterday. Sorry, couldn't tell that from the post. I've corrected some of my faux paus in other threads. Sorry for making you do all this extra work. Exactly! I think Sonny grieving for Will and what might have been, while struggling to raise Ari as a single father would have been more compelling..Especially if he still feels drawn to Paul in spite of everything. I feel it is insulting that Gabi is conveniently released out of prison, Sonny is in exiled in Paris and Will is being murdered to make way for a more acceptable family that conforms to Heteronormative values.... Yes. Exactly. They could've played up the guilt of Sonny abandoning Will/Ari and not being there to "protect" Will...and then being drawn to Paul and resisting out of respect for Will's memory, etc... Soap logic, not real world logic. Don't get me started on the heteronormative values stuff. I'm getting nauseated thinking about it. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1561607
TeeVee329 October 2, 2015 Share October 2, 2015 I don't have a problem with Gabi raising her daughter. I know many of their fans sees her as the vessel for the Wilson baby and she should, I guess, go throw herself in a volcano, but she's Ari's mom. And I imagine there will be scenes between Sonny and Gabi where Gabi asserts that Sonny will always be Ari's father, they'll keep Will alive for Ari, yadda yadda yadda. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1561610
swtrgrl October 2, 2015 Share October 2, 2015 I don't have a problem with Gabi raising her daughter. I know many of their fans sees her as the vessel for the Wilson baby and she should, I guess, go throw herself in a volcano, but she's Ari's mom. And I imagine there will be scenes between Sonny and Gabi where Gabi asserts that Sonny will always be Ari's father, they'll keep Will alive for Ari, yadda yadda yadda. I don't have an issue with Gabi raising her daughter. I don't think she is a vessel for anything, much less a WilSon baby. She is Ari's mom and should be a mother to her and help raise her. I'm dreading all the "yadda yadda yadda" scenes you described. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1562030
Apprentice79 October 2, 2015 Share October 2, 2015 (edited) Did you guys see the promo for next week? I think either Abby, Sami or Gabi will find Will's lifeless body....This is going to be intense and heartbreaking.....Ben is going to kill Will with a rope...Sami comes back on Monday October 12th and Will dies at the end of Friday's cliffhanger... Edited October 2, 2015 by Apprentice79 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1562881
howmanywords October 2, 2015 Share October 2, 2015 I'm not even a Will fan and that promo made me cringe in horror. Wow. Ben is twisted. When he was saying 'you couldn't just stay away' he sounded nuts. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1562939
Artsda October 2, 2015 Share October 2, 2015 After asking him to be his best man and Will being "Team Ben" to still kill him is twisted. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1563028
tribeca October 2, 2015 Share October 2, 2015 I'm not even a Will fan and that promo made me cringe in horror. Wow. Ben is twisted. When he was saying 'you couldn't just stay away' he sounded nuts. Where can I watch this preview? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1563158
buffynut October 2, 2015 Share October 2, 2015 Where can I watch this preview? https://instagram.com/p/8WneGHK2et/ 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1563173
Kitty Redstone October 3, 2015 Share October 3, 2015 Yikes. That was intense. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1563212
TeeVee329 October 3, 2015 Share October 3, 2015 Whoa, the camera angle from Will's POV up at Ben as he's being strangled is rather gruesome for a daytime soap. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1563232
Peanut6711 October 3, 2015 Share October 3, 2015 Did you guys see the promo for next week? I think either Abby, Sami or Gabi will find Will's lifeless body....This is going to be intense and heartbreaking.....Ben is going to kill Will with a rope...Sami comes back on Monday October 12th and Will dies at the end of Friday's cliffhanger... Because he threw the rest of the red ties in the river??? Good thing Higley made Rafe smarter or this would surely throw off the typically incompetent Salem PD. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1563355
Apprentice79 October 3, 2015 Share October 3, 2015 (edited) Plus killing Will is not about setting up Chad, but about self-preservation...If Will found evidence against Ben, why didn't he go to his Grandfather Roman instead of confronting a psychopath...Go to Stefano, Hope, Rafe or his Grandmother Marlena with his suspicions.. Don't confront a murderer.. Edited October 3, 2015 by Apprentice79 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1563370
SanDiegoInExile October 3, 2015 Share October 3, 2015 No one ever accused any version of Will Horton to be all that smart, despite efforts of two failed writing regimes. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1563517
Apprentice79 October 3, 2015 Share October 3, 2015 Ben better go hide because Lumi, Kate and Sonny will be gunning for him....My heart is going to ache for them...Marlena is going to be devastated. Her twin sister was killed in the same grotesque way and now her beloved first Grandson...She survived her attack, so she will know firsthand what they went through before they died...My goodness! I forgot about Caroline, burying her great-grandson...If the show plays all of the beats correctly, the ramifications can be felt for years... 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1563567
TeeVee329 October 3, 2015 Share October 3, 2015 Plus killing Will is not about setting up Chad, but about self-preservation...If Will found evidence against Ben, why didn't he go to his Grandfather Roman instead of confronting a psychopath...Go to Stefano, Hope, Rafe or his Grandmother Marlena with his suspicions.. Don't confront a murderer.. I think the idea is that Ben catches Will in the act of finding said evidence. Will finds something he shouldn't, Ben walks in, and cue the strangling. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1563871
boes October 3, 2015 Author Share October 3, 2015 I absolutely hate that Will is supposed to be killed. Regardless of how crap his character has been recently, he's been around forever, he's important to so many characters, has so many connections, that killing him is just a repugnant idea to me. And although I don't think this is the case, I remember the bad old days where gay characters, especially the "good" ones, so often got killed or even killed themselves to make their very presence palatable to audiences. Shitty storytelling, in my opinion, to go this route. No matter how many good performances, strong reactions we get to see, I'd happily live without them. Write the guy off for a while and bring him back as a recast with better writing. Not this. Want to kill a legacy young person? How about Abigail? Let her fall, huge head first, right into a wood chipper or Jenn's big mouth, whichever is closest. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1563890
Petunia13 October 3, 2015 Share October 3, 2015 https://instagram.com/p/8WneGHK2et/ Dammit that video won't work for me. I tried twice. It's there another clip of it on youtube ? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1564257
buffynut October 3, 2015 Share October 3, 2015 If you're in the US, the video is on the NBC site: http://www.nbc.com/days-of-our-lives Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1564519
Apprentice79 October 3, 2015 Share October 3, 2015 Spoilers for the week of October 12.. Only some spoilers have been released..More will surely come... Monday October 12: Chad realizes who’s been framing him for murder. Sami returns to Salem! Tuesday October 13: Andre puts Aiden in a tough position. Wednesday October 14: Theresa fights to make sure Kate doesn’t shut her out at Basic Black. Thursday October 15: Pushed over the edge, Sami tries to commit murder! Friday October 16: Rafe unknowingly questions the real Necktie Killer as he tries to clear Chad’s name. Sonny and Paul have a fraught encounter. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1564577
Artsda October 3, 2015 Share October 3, 2015 If Sami tries to kill Chad, Stefano better do something. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1564595
howmanywords October 3, 2015 Share October 3, 2015 (edited) I would have to go back and watch but didn't the 50th anniversary promo show Andre with Sami and covering her mouth? Maybe if she goes after Chad then Stefano does do something. eta: Ok I just re-watched the promo..looks like a couple of Dimera henchman and Andre have Sami. Edited October 3, 2015 by howmanywords 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1564627
Apprentice79 October 3, 2015 Share October 3, 2015 (edited) He probably has Sami to try and convince her to let Stefano have a relationship with Johnny and Sydney..Andre did say that he wants to avenge those who have hurt his dad..I am confused about Andre now being Stefano's son..Plus, I loathe him for killing Benjy, by burying him alive...Benjy was another character that was snuffed out before reaching his full potential...At least Benjy's son can come back one day and mix it up with Sydney, Johnny, Allie, and Theo. I would love it for the show to make Johnny Lucas' son. It would be fascinating to see Lucas try to connect with an angry teenage Johnny who absolutely wants nothing to do with him..I just want to see Lucas more on the show....I feel like with Will's death that he will be marginalized even more...I hope he gets a good story out of this, perhaps he falls off the wagon dealing with the loss of Will..I can see Lucas being strong for Sami and the family, while he secretly drinks to numb his pain...Perhaps Maggie recognizes this and tries to be there for Lucas...Bill Horton can also come back to help his son and finally forges a strong bond with him.. Edited October 3, 2015 by Apprentice79 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1565008
Apprentice79 October 5, 2015 Share October 5, 2015 More Spoilers for the week of October 12, 2015 Monday, October 12, 2015In Paris, Sonny is affected by Will’s message and decides to go home. Tuesday, October 13, 2015Marlena and Lucas express deep concern over Sami’s behavior. Wednesday, October 14, 2015Nicole breaks disappointing news to Eric. Thursday, October 15, 2015Paul helps John with his search into the past.Sonny has an emotional reunion with Adrienne and Justin. Friday, October 16, 2015Stefano blames Abigail for what’s happened to Chad. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1569902
LeftPhalange October 5, 2015 Share October 5, 2015 https://instagram.com/p/8WneGHK2et/ Why are they revealing a legacy character's death in a promo? Isn't this something they'd want to keep secret until it actually happens? Friday, October 16, 2015 Stefano blames Abigail for what’s happened to Chad. He should kill her. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1570009
Ruby Red October 5, 2015 Share October 5, 2015 Monday, October 12, 2015 In Paris, Sonny is affected by Will’s message and decides to go home. That almost makes it sound like Will doesn't die? But it could just be a phrasing to mislead people a bit. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1570026
Apprentice79 October 5, 2015 Share October 5, 2015 (edited) He probably got a voicemail from Will....Paris is 6 hours ahead of the U.S...I remember Justin telling Sonny to not to take too much time to make a decision about Will because it will be made for him... Edited October 5, 2015 by Apprentice79 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1570046
TeeVee329 October 5, 2015 Share October 5, 2015 Why are they revealing a legacy character's death in a promo? Isn't this something they'd want to keep secret until it actually happens? I don't think, if you didn't know it was Will, you would be able to tell it's him who's being strangled. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1570170
ShadowSixx October 5, 2015 Share October 5, 2015 Stefano blames Abigail for what’s happened to Chad. Oh but wasn't he so gung ho over Chad spreading the Twit's legs? Whatever Stefano you can kill her then off yourself. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/58/#findComment-1571076
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