S02.E06: Don't Cry Over Spilled Tea

[bichonblitz]

17 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

If shes trailer trash I'd much rather hang with her then that stuck up snob pink lady so fake.... who cares if she used a curse word they are adults and its not like children are around.... they try to use manors to act better then anyone I'm with Brandi F78k em lol

 

17 hours ago, WireWrap said:

Pink Priss didn't seem to mind LeAnn calling Cary the "C" word, which I find that word more offensive than the F bomb, just like she thought Brandi's dress was too short but had zero to say about Cary's above the knee hem! She is as fake as they come IMO. 

I get you both, however, just because I don't like Brandi it doesn't mean I like Pink Priss, either! They are both rediculous. 

[Sweet-tea]

On 9/19/2017 at 7:19 AM, ghoulina said:

How many times is Leann going to trot out her carny past??? You're a grown ass woman. Take some responsibility for your own life. 

It was blatant manipulation, and it seems to have worked pretty well for her. 

[jaync]

Rich, you silver fox!  *fingers crossed for a carny-themed wedding*

First Terry Dubrow, now Mark...what's with the plastic surgeons begrudging their young daughters? Dr. Dicks.

Loved double-fisting Stephanie's "Imma keep drinking" while shit was going down.

[ZaldamoWilder]

On 9/19/2017 at 4:47 AM, yourmomiseasy said:

And her tea hat was stupid.

I giggled so hard at you just now!  I could *see* you letting her have it and then being done.   Then all of a sudden, over your shoulder as you go out the door:  and your tea hat was stupid!    Aah shit, it still tickles. Lol!

On 9/19/2017 at 9:39 AM, bichonblitz said:

Why do some women get pregnant when they know their husbands don't want a kid?

No shade, but to be fair there were at least two ways to avoid this from his perspective. 

On 9/19/2017 at 2:54 PM, iloveit said:

Aww, Rich's proposal to Leeann was truly sweet.  As truly insane as she is (as evidenced by next week's preview), there is still something like every week that makes you root for Leann, even it is just for like one minute.

 

I feel like the Debbie Downer character from SNL for saying this but I might be the only person here who wasn't bowled over by the proposal.  It was sweet and I wasn't expecting him to kneel or anything but, it's been 8 years.....all I got was a quick peck and a church hug?  Dude the Clintons have more sexual chemistry than this and she's got a legit excuse. 

22 hours ago, ghoulina said:

I can actually see some sort of passive-aggressive back and forth going on with BOTH of them, in regards to Zuri. 

But Mark's behavior still scares me. Kameron's hubby commented, as Cary was taking Zuri out, that the little girl was adorable. Mark said something like, "Maybe". And when he told Cary that anything Zuri didn't eat, SHE (Cary)would have to eat? He just seems super possessive, resentful, and angry. 

Chianti and fava beans moment.  This dude is off the rails batshit psychopathic. 

 

22 hours ago, sheetmoss said:

Mark may not be fond of/relate to  babies/little kids kind of parent to start.  When Zuri gets older he may be the very doting dad.

  The meal was lobster, not anything kid friendly to start so he knew their would be issues from the get go as  little kids are really picky eaters on the best of days

    In the end, it was wasted $$ food, so I can kind of get where Mark was coming from

The thing is, he's the (primary?) cook.  Of course your 4 year old isn't going to eat lobster.  Do they not keep preK friendly food in the house?  Get the box of chicken nuggets out of the freezer and make five of those.  I know, I know, the whole thing was a microaggressive message and exercise in freezing out his baby.  Congratulations dick.  I guess. 

[ghoulina]

23 hours ago, sheetmoss said:

Mark may not be fond of/relate to  babies/little kids kind of parent to start.  When Zuri gets older he may be the very doting dad.

  The meal was lobster, not anything kid friendly to start so he knew their would be issues from the get go as  little kids are really picky eaters on the best of days

    In the end, it was wasted $$ food, so I can kind of get where Mark was coming from

IMO, there is a difference between a dad who is a little out of his element around younger kids, and a father who really cannot stand his child. No matter her age, you'd think he'd have SOME affection for her. I don't see any. He seems to completely resent her, and I felt a lot of anger coming off of him at that dinner. It seemed to make his guests uncomfortable. 

Kids are fickle. They love something one night, hate it the next. I still serve them what we're having, no special meals. If I was making lobster, they'd get lobster and that's that. Many young kids who are exposed to a broad range of foods from the get go actually have quite sophisticated palates. I really just thought Mark was more angry at Cary for letting a CHILD interrupt their "adult time" more than really caring about the actual lobster. 

Edited September 20, 2017 by ghoulina

[Stan39]

I get that a lot of the "drama" on this show is fabricated, but the story about Mark being worried he wouldn't be a priority, and then buying a Porsche, is just disgusting. If this storyline is real, I feel so sorry for Cary and the daughter. If it's made up for TV (a pretend fight with your wife in which you pretend to not love and want your own daughter???) it's sick.

 

Kameron keeps getting dumber and uglier each episode. For someone as sophisticated as her, she refers to cleavage as hooters rather than décolletage? And if she really didn't care about the invite she wouldn't bring it up every five minutes. Plus, I get liking pink, but don't act like pink things are rare or a sign of femininity. Jesus, surrounding yourself with fluffy, pink things isn't a sign of being highbrow, just that you're simple minded and tacky.  I really hope she gets the axe after this season. Anyone know why they didn't bring back the woman married to the Keith Urban impersonater?

 

Either Leanne is sick, with her anger issues and how she manipulates people, in which case she shouldn't be allowed to motivate and speak to people with real issues. Or, she's sane but lies about her persona on this show for screen time, in which case she shouldn't be trusted to speak in front of people with real issues. I'm sorry, if she had any other kind of job I wouldn't care, but she should not be doing what she's doing. 

[Mindthinkr]

3 minutes ago, Stan39 said:

Kameron keeps getting dumber and uglier each episode. For someone as sophisticated as her, she refers to cleavage as hooters rather than décolletage? And if she really didn't care about the invite she wouldn't bring it up every five minutes. Plus, I get liking pink, but don't act like pink things are rare or a sign of femininity. Jesus, surrounding yourself with fluffy, pink things isn't a sign of being highbrow, just that you're simple minded and tacky.  I really hope she gets the axe after this season

A prime example of liking the color pink with class would be LVP. Her nickname is even Pinky although we don't hear it used on the show. She loves pink but just uses it in subtle ways to accessorize although she has some lovely custom pink silk blouses. 

[heatherchandler]

On 9/18/2017 at 10:05 PM, Slider said:

 

Something's wrong when ditzy blonde Cameron, who I hated at first, is my favorite!  

I thought I would be HATING Cameron, but she is one of my favorites too.  But I also like Leanne and Brandi so who knows what is going through my mind.

 

On 9/18/2017 at 11:21 PM, AttackTurtle said:

 

Im in the minority on here in that I really like Brandie and Stephanie.  For the life of me, I don't get Leanne's fixation with trashing Stephanie.

Stephanie is such a try-hard wannabe, it is pathetic.  I assume Leanne sees through her nice girl act.

 

On 9/19/2017 at 0:55 PM, eclectcmoi said:

 

Brandi is quite talented with her impersonations, voices and now bird noises.  More please...

 

I was dying when she called that lady Heidi, a few episodes ago.  I think that is the first time I have ever truly laughed out loud at this show!

 

28 minutes ago, Mindthinkr said:

A prime example of liking the color pink with class would be LVP. Her nickname is even Pinky although we don't hear it used on the show. She loves pink but just uses it in subtle ways to accessorize although she has some lovely custom pink silk blouses. 

I don't think of LVP as subtle with the pink.  She ASKED to be called Pinky on the show but Andy said no.  Not sure why he wouldn't let it happen, but she was really trying to be the Pink Person.  

[HunterHunted]

1 hour ago, heatherchandler said:

I don't think of LVP as subtle with the pink.  She ASKED to be called Pinky on the show but Andy said no.  Not sure why he wouldn't let it happen, but she was really trying to be the Pink Person.  

They didn't let LVP use "Pinky" because they thought Pinky Vanderpump sounded like a porn star. LVP wisely doesn't usually wear head to toe pink like the Pink Prissy Princess.

2 hours ago, Stan39 said:

Kameron keeps getting dumber and uglier each episode. For someone as sophisticated as her, she refers to cleavage as hooters rather than décolletage? And if she really didn't care about the invite she wouldn't bring it up every five minutes. Plus, I get liking pink, but don't act like pink things are rare or a sign of femininity. Jesus, surrounding yourself with fluffy, pink things isn't a sign of being highbrow, just that you're simple minded and tacky.  I really hope she gets the axe after this season. 

I can't stand her. Outwardly dumb, but secretly smart is not easy to pull off on one of these shows. Kameron is doing a piss poor job of attempting to pull it off. She comes across as dumb dumb, not smart dumb. Kameron didn't even have an answer for her 6 year old when her 6 year asked what's so great about pink dog poop. Wig is dumb and lazy, but she's not shy about putting her

which is what keeps her in coins even if she spends them as fast as she can earn them. Sonja Morgan has managed smart dumb the best by being kooky, not straight up stupid like Kameron. Kameron starts her pitch to her husband by talking about how the pet business is worth billions of dollars, but then has no info about whether people want pink dog food. If Dallas is anything like Potomac, Dallas has 2 episodes for the Mexico trip and 4 more episodes until the reunion. That leaves Kameron 4 episodes to explore her dumb dog food idea before it's a complete bust. Pink in itself isn't a concept. It's a color. What's a concept is an app that consolidates all of the in home pet services: sitters, walkers, vets, groomers, trainers, supply, and foods.

Edited September 20, 2017 by HunterHunted

[AttackTurtle]

1 hour ago, heatherchandler said:

I thought I would be HATING Cameron, but she is one of my favorites too.  But I also like Leanne and Brandi so who knows what is going through my mind.

 

Stephanie is such a try-hard wannabe, it is pathetic.  I assume Leanne sees through her nice girl act.

 

I was dying when she called that lady Heidi, a few episodes ago.  I think that is the first time I have ever truly laughed out loud at this show!

 

I don't think of LVP as subtle with the pink.  She ASKED to be called Pinky on the show but Andy said no.  Not sure why he wouldn't let it happen, but she was really trying to be the Pink Person.  

I really don't see the try hard wanna-be traits in Stephanie.  She hasn't been kissing the asses of the new girls, but Leanne certainly has been with Cameran.  And Leanne may be pretty, but that all goes out the window when she resorts to using the c-word.

[Mindthinkr]

21 minutes ago, HunterHunted said:

They didn't let LVP use "Pinky" because they thought Pinky Vanderpump sounded like a porn star. LVP wisely doesn't usually wear head to toe pink like the Pink Prissy Pringers.

Thank you. Your memory is better than mine! 

[Sweet-tea]

5 hours ago, ZaldamoWilder said:

feel like the Debbie Downer character from SNL for saying this but I might be the only person here who wasn't bowled over by the proposal.  It was sweet and I wasn't expecting him to kneel or anything but, it's been 8 years.....all I got was a quick peck and a church hug?  Dude the Clintons have more sexual chemistry than this and she's got a legit excuse. 

I thought the same thing. I was underwhelmed by it. I wonder if it's because it was rehearsed before they filmed it? LeeAnn didn't seem surprised to me, and Rich didn't seem very into it. I wonder if he just gave up and asked her so she'd stop bugging him. The ring will buy him some time, but eventually she's going to want to set a date. We shall see. 

I also thought it was out of character for her to not want to wear the ring and crow about being engaged. 

[Mindthinkr]

I just had another thought. Little girls clothes are so cute and they can get away with wearing frillier and fancier stuff than an adult could. I loved it when I had a granddaughter, well actually anyone I know who's having a baby girl. I get to shop for the most adorable things. Hair bows, ankle socks with lace, and embroidered collars to name a few things. Since Mark loves dressing up Cary so much, why doesn't he get into dressing up little  Zuri? There's a lot of missed opportunities for him. Heck, Cary might divorce him (kidding-not kidding) but he could even get them matching outfits. He needs to learn to roll with it. 

[OnceSane]

2 hours ago, Mindthinkr said:

I just had another thought. Little girls clothes are so cute and they can get away with wearing frillier and fancier stuff than an adult could. I loved it when I had a granddaughter, well actually anyone I know who's having a baby girl. I get to shop for the most adorable things. Hair bows, ankle socks with lace, and embroidered collars to name a few things. Since Mark loves dressing up Cary so much, why doesn't he get into dressing up little  Zuri? There's a lot of missed opportunities for him. Heck, Cary might divorce him (kidding-not kidding) but he could even get them matching outfits. He needs to learn to roll with it. 

He's so into fashion…why not a kiddie clothing line?

[RedheadZombie]

On ‎9‎/‎19‎/‎2017 at 7:30 PM, LilaFowler said:

Yeah, Cary's too smart and self-aware to write it that way when she meant something else. That was a total pot-stirring move and I don't think anyone really bought it. With the mess that she has at home with her husband, I almost can't blame her for pointing the spotlight anywhere other than her own life. I don't even understand why she's letting them film Mark. He is clearly some creep who resents his own child. I feel sorry for that kid. He's never shown much interest in her now that I think of it. Cary was supposed to be his trophy wife, the Barbie doll that he dressed up and trotted out to make himself look good to others. Not much use in that when she prefers to be at home with the kid. He's pissed and not hiding it well.

I think Mark also sees Cary as his personal workhorse.  I think he probably lets her cross the line a bit, and do things a surgeon is responsible for, like closing and dressing wounds, administering botox, and writing postop orders, etc.  There's no other explanation for why he wants her chained to his side for each and other surgery.  I'm guessing she also does most of his post-op appointments, and handling prescription requests, etc. 

[RedheadZombie]

15 hours ago, MaggieG said:

I wasn't really liking D'Andra last week with the whole stepson issue, but I absolutly loved her this week when she called out Leanne. Her eye rolling when Leeanne started with her "my mother abondened me" story was pretty awesome.

 

I don't know.  Try as I might, I just can't like D'Andra.  And her comparing her princess-like childhood with the 200 dresses to Leeanne's carny life was a huge stretch.  I suggest inserting an eye roll of the entire cast every time D'Andra complains about her mother retaining the reins of the business.  You know, the business that D'Andra's mother built from the ground up.  The business that D'Andra's mother created and has kept building for decades, before D'Andra and all her brilliant ideas of blowing tens of millions of dollars on researching new products.

Now I'm not suggesting that I like D'Andra's mother, or even the mother's skin care line.  For God's sake, when the owner of the business, like Marilyn Miglin and Adrian Arpel, have had such obvious extreme plastic surgery, I think purchasers are flat out morons.  But for whatever reason, D'Andra's mom has a very successful skin care line.  And for whatever reason, D'Andra has not earned her mother's trust. 

Enough with the bitching and moaning.  And now that I've seen D'Andra's treatment of her step-son, I think her parenting skills came directly from her mother.  But D'Andra is not as generous - at least not without bitching on camera and humiliating her step-son.  I think any step-child would have serious masochistic issues if they chose to stay in D'Andra's home, under her control, and in full view of cameras.  She's been his step-mother for around five years, and with a child who lives with his mother.  If he were my child, I would have a serious talk with princess D'Andra.  I think she's a nasty piece of work, and I shouldn't be surprised considering the way she humiliated her husband's table etiquette on camera, and in full display of her mother.  At this point, I'm just grateful that D'Andra doesn't have her own children to intimidate and talk down to.  She doesn't respect her husband as a parent, and she crosses boundaries in speaking over him with his own child. 

[Sun-Bun]

On 9/19/2017 at 8:39 AM, bichonblitz said:

Why do some women get pregnant when they know their husbands don't want a kid? It's not fair to the kid. Cary's husband is a total asshole and a shitbag of a father. There is just no other way to describe him.

I refer to this as the classic "baby mealticket" procedure: a woman getting pregnant in a hurry with a rich boyfriend/husband means she's also getting financially set for life if/when she divorces his ass or vise versa. See also "Southern Charm's" Kathryn Dennis and her two out-of-wedlock children with the over-30-years-her-senior millionaire Thomas Ravanel. Or any celebrity male who hooks up with a much younger, usually much poorer woman---like why would *anyone* honestly want to have a child with a man over the age of 55?!((like please just get fixed already, Rolling Stones band members)) 

Of course it's not fair to the kid, but typical golddigging usually isn't fair to anyone involved in the process but the woman. I like Cary okay, but it seems like the only one who wanted a child in that weirdly convenient marriage was her.

[ZaldamoWilder]

7 hours ago, Sun-Bun said:

I refer to this as the classic "baby mealticket" procedure: a woman getting pregnant in a hurry with a rich boyfriend/husband means she's also getting financially set for life if/when she divorces his ass or vise versa. See also "Southern Charm's" Kathryn Dennis and her two out-of-wedlock children with the over-30-years-her-senior millionaire Thomas Ravanel. Or any celebrity male who hooks up with a much younger, usually much poorer woman---like why would *anyone* honestly want to have a child with a man over the age of 55?!((like please just get fixed already, Rolling Stones band members)) 

Of course it's not fair to the kid, but typical golddigging usually isn't fair to anyone involved in the process but the woman. I like Cary okay, but it seems like the only one who wanted a child in that weirdly convenient marriage was her.

See I don't deny this is a thing.  But my entire problem with this characterization is the complete absolution of the men.  The person who least wants to have a baby needs to be the one most concerned with pregnancy prevention.   You can't dig gold without the pick axe.

[janie2002]

15 hours ago, heatherchandler said:

I thought I would be HATING Cameron, but she is one of my favorites too.  But I also like Leanne and Brandi so who knows what is going through my mind.

 

Stephanie is such a try-hard wannabe, it is pathetic.  I assume Leanne sees through her nice girl act.

 

I was dying when she called that lady Heidi, a few episodes ago.  I think that is the first time I have ever truly laughed out loud at this show!

 

I don't think of LVP as subtle with the pink.  She ASKED to be called Pinky on the show but Andy said no.  Not sure why he wouldn't let it happen, but she was really trying to be the Pink Person.  

Lisa is known as pinky to all her friends off the show, and asked to be called that on the show as well. Andy wanted her to be high class and didnt think that nickname was suited for a BH housewfe.

[iloveit]

I don't think Cary had a child to trap Mark.  Given her what appears to be genuine interest in spending time with Zuri, I think she truly wanted to have a kid. Her marriage to Mark would have probably been safer not having a kid. I don't think she is a KAthryn Dennis LOL!

 

I don't think that Kameron is truly dumb.  I do think this is an act but I am wondering why the fck she wants to be portrayed as a nitwit.  I think she made a huge mistake and she should just act normally if she is back next season.

9 hours ago, RedheadZombie said:

And her comparing her princess-like childhood with the 200 dresses to Leeanne's carny life was a huge stretch.

 I totally agree. I mean, I still like D'Andra for now but the comparison doesn't hold water.  As annoying as Leann is about mentioning it all of the time, she truly did have a very difficult childhood.  I'm sure D'Andra did struggle with her parents' divorce and her father's alcoholism.  That is sad and would have an impact on her life but she was cushioned by A LOT of money and opportunity and Leann clearly didn't have that. 

[Sun-Bun]

2 hours ago, ZaldamoWilder said:

See I don't deny this is a thing.  But my entire problem with this characterization is the complete absolution of the men.  The person who least wants to have a baby needs to be the one most concerned with pregnancy prevention.   You can't dig gold without the pick axe.

Not to absolve men in this completely, of course---I just think most rich/celeb men go along with it just for appearance's sake. They think it makes them look virile and complete while appeasing their ladies; they get spawn as accessories, meanwhile preferring nannies and/or staff to actually take care of the mothering.

I don't doubt that Cary genuinely wanted a child and that she's a good mother---her scenario isn't a Kathryn D situation or doesn't reek of entrapment; I just question her overall rationale for having a child with such a disinterested father as Mark. She's lucky Zuri appears to be such a calm and mellow child so far, because lord help Cary if she had a more problematic or special needs child---I think Mark would leave her in the dust, like so many fathers of tougher children.

But unfortunately, many men are like that and think fatherhood is a cool, fun-filled existence until they actually see how much work and patience it requires. I was the product of just such a marriage of convenience((mom wanted kids, dad thought he wanted kids and then left without a trace)), so I guess I'm a bit more sensitive to the typical baby mealticket scenario.

[ZaldamoWilder]

1 hour ago, Sun-Bun said:

I guess I'm a bit more sensitive to the typical baby mealticket scenario.

Forgive me for thinking so but it actually sounds like the complete opposite lol. 

I totally get what you're saying about how some men view it.  To be clearer, the issue is assignment of responsibility.   As long as it still takes a willing male participant to make a mini human, nobody has the right to call the woman whom he got pregnant anything but a mom.  

I was on the book of faces the other day and a question was posed in one of my tv show discussion groups.  "how many kids is the most you'll consider when deciding to date somebody?"  - respondents, women mostly, said none or one but no more than 2.   One of the men said this:  don't count out guys on the basis of his number of children, I have one young son and my ex girlfriend is currently pregnant but she cheated (reason she's an ex) and doesn't know who the baby's father is.  Point is, neither of these babies is my fault"  the women in the thread proceeded to jump on him for the glaring omission and he said yeah I slept with them but they chose to have the babies.   I guess my sensitivity is anything that sounds like it helps this particular brand of delusion. 

[pasdetrois]

As a cynic of all things reality TV, I think Cary is laying the grounds for divorce and child support. Step one: sudden desire to stay home with your child. Step two: reduce your time spent working at your husband's business. Step three: profess devotion to staying home with the child and improve your motherly image. Step four: increase the shade hurled at your husband to empathize what a jerk he is. Step five: ask for massive child support, sole custody and part of the proceeds from the business in your divorce and custody petition.

However, I don't feel badly for Mark. He's selfish, Sahara Desert-level thirsty, quite bizarre and doesn't give rat's ass about his youngest child.
 

Edited September 21, 2017 by pasdetrois

[ghoulina]

6 hours ago, ZaldamoWilder said:

See I don't deny this is a thing.  But my entire problem with this characterization is the complete absolution of the men.  The person who least wants to have a baby needs to be the one most concerned with pregnancy prevention.   You can't dig gold without the pick axe.

PREACH! Unless Cary (or other women in general) held Mark down and forced him to impregnate her, he can't really complain. Don't want a kid ruining your fancy lobster dinners? Wear a condom. 

Mark already has older kids, right? Cary had none. I can see one of those situations where Mark knew she wanted kids, and he really kind of didn't want any more, but he didn't want to lose Cary. So he was all, "Okay yea, a baby would be great" and hoped that their fabulous life of plastic surgery and fashion shows would fulfill her enough. But apparently not, and then said Porsche crisis came. But then....he held out hope - Zuri could be raised mainly by a nanny and Cary would work along side her man, telling Mark what a god he is on a daily basis. Except....now Cary has taken a step back and actually wants to spend time with the child. Nothing is going the way Mark planned!!!!

[Carolina Girl]

On 9/18/2017 at 8:53 PM, RedheadZombie said:

I can't believe how much my opinion has changed on Cary.  She seemed like such a shallow climber last season.  This season I'm really liking her.  I don't know that it's good that the audience sees more of Zuri, but I enjoy watching them interact.  Mark is just revolting.  He seems to have a 19th century mentality where the children spend 95% of their time in the nursery with nanny, and never, ever eat with the adults.

Mark is an obvious man-child, and incredibly self-involved and needy.  Whining about a fetus stealing his wife's time.  He's a major loser.  And since Cary busted her ass helping him build that business, I hope she gets half in the divorce.  I thinks it's her personality that draws the patients.  She seems to do most of the work while he's off fussing over fashion. 

His behavior at dinner was embarrassing, and even Kameron and hubby were clearly shooting each other looks.  And good for Cary for refusing to allow him to take Zuri to bed.  He was probably going to give her a little pop, or tell her that she ruined dinner and stole mommy's attention from him.  He wants the child in bed when he gets home and out of his way.  I guess Cary should be waiting for him in a negligee and stilettos, with a martini and the latest edition of Vogue.

And really dude?  All you needed to do for your adorable little girl was throw a Stauffer's mac and cheese in the microwave and she'd have been happy as a clam while you ate your fucking LOBSTER.  

[booboopbedoo]

On 20/09/2017 at 0:34 PM, ZaldamoWilder said:

Chianti and fava beans moment.  This dude is off the rails batshit psychopathic. 

 

Love it!

5 hours ago, Carolina Girl said:

Mark is an obvious man-child, and incredibly self-involved and needy.

She took him from his wife by doing him under his desk. He thought she would be his personal nurse and instead she betrayed him and had a child.

They probably agreed not to have any kids and then "poof" there is a baby!

[janie2002]

Maybe the rumors are true and Carrie was the other womean? He could have easily loved that he would have an assistant nurse that loved having sex with him( we have seen how flexible she is in yoga, damn!) I get the impression he thought he wifed up the sexy mistress and life would be carefree with work, fashion, and the young hot wife.

 

 

This all of course if he actually was cheating with Carrie

[Sage47]

On ‎9‎/‎19‎/‎2017 at 5:18 PM, sheetmoss said:

Mark may not be fond of/relate to  babies/little kids kind of parent to start.  When Zuri gets older he may be the very doting dad.

  The meal was lobster, not anything kid friendly to start so he knew their would be issues from the get go as  little kids are really picky eaters on the best of days

    In the end, it was wasted $$ food, so I can kind of get where Mark was coming from

I can't get where Mark is coming from-at all. What a godawful person and father. And no, he is not going to be a doting dad when Zuri is older, I HIGHLY doubt that. He could barely hide his contempt for his daughter-so disturbing. Cary seems to be over his creepy behavior and controlling psychopath persona so hope to see them separated soon for that sweet little girl's sake.

He had a "mental breakdown" when Cary got pregnant because he needs ALL of her attention?! WHAA?? Sick and disturbed man.

Kameron is too, too much. I like the nickname someone here came up with of Pink Priss. Is this chick for real? A living, plastic Barbie doll with shallow emotions and affect and constant posing and duck-lipping. 

Leann's proposal actually made me tear up! It was just so sweet and well thought out; the perfect place to propose to her! It just gave me the biggest smile. Her guy seem so thoughtful and loving, I was envious!

What is D'Andra's deal? I liked her a lot but lately have a little doubt seeping in. She can be so harsh.  I know Leeann needs to be reprimanded sometimes but D'Andra isn't one bit gentle with her, just lays it on the line like a drill sergeant. Woah! I wonder how she would like criticism aimed at her like that?

I am really enjoying the Dallas show. I like all of the personalities (minus strange Kameron) and their interactions feel genuine. They are interesting to me, unlike the awful cast on Real Housewives/Orange County which has totally tanked. Dallas is my new favorite.

[Kiss my mutt]

I can't like Carrie for the simple fact she married Mark and proceeding to have a child with this man-child.  The only way I know Zuri (what, named for Zurich?) is his child is she unfortunately looks like him. 

[dosodog]

Whoa, whoa, whoa.  

The ONLY reference about Mark having a mental breakdown is coming from Cary.  Who, imo, often demeans and emasculates him in her TH. Last season it was all about her making him over when they met.  She gives the impression that without her, Mark would be nothing.

Did he really have a breakdown?  Is there any evidence out there?  Or?  Could this possibly be Cary exaggerating?  To make herself look awesome. 

Which?  While she wasn't hostile to Zuri, she was plenty hostile to Mark.  And she doesn't get a pass from me for setting her daughter up for failure. Between food she didn't want to eat, no one her own age to socialize with and the lack of boundries.  4 year olds are not stupid and can be trained to understand not to interrupt or whine and roll around on the floor because they're bored.

I'm not giving Mark a pass either.  Y'all just covered my opinion of him very well.

They're both terrible in different ways when it comes to their daughter.

[TheFinalRose]

Mark is the worst. That poor little girl living with that hostile man. Does he think she won't soak up his hate? If I were Cary (whom I am enjoying this season 10X more than last year) I'd kick him out. 

 

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I really don't see the try hard wanna-be traits in Stephanie.

Me neither. She's really funny and pretty nice, and I love that she and Travis are so stinkin' rich that they can buy a $5 million house at auction. Does anyone know where their money comes from?

D'Andra's tirade at her stepson was so ego driven. Why was she yelling at him that "it was all about him?" He is 20 years old, trying to figure himself out. It's not his job to worry about his 40+ stepmom's needs or stay in a living situation he's not comfortable with because she has thousands of dollars of ballgowns to sell and no ebay listing slave at her command. She really thought she could whip that kid into shape and get the credit. That's what she was mad about. 

[WhoaWhoKnew]

10 minutes ago, TheFinalRose said:

 

Me neither. She's really funny and pretty nice, and I love that she and Travis are so stinkin' rich that they can buy a $5 million house at auction. Does anyone know where their money comes from?

He and his family make wooden lockers for various professional and college sports teams. I think Stephanie mentioned the Chicago Cubs as one of their newer contracts.

[Mommytocax]

I think there must be much more to the D'Andra stepson story.  Yes, she was out of line, but I'm guessing there was some major backstory about him coming to live with them while they supported him while he cleaned his life up or something.    And he screwed up.  It wasn't just the dresses.

[ghoulina]

4 hours ago, dosodog said:

Whoa, whoa, whoa.  

The ONLY reference about Mark having a mental breakdown is coming from Cary.  Who, imo, often demeans and emasculates him in her TH. Last season it was all about her making him over when they met.  She gives the impression that without her, Mark would be nothing.

Did he really have a breakdown?  Is there any evidence out there?  Or?  Could this possibly be Cary exaggerating?  To make herself look awesome. 

True. We only heard her say it. But I believe it. Just watching how he acts around his daughter NOW makes me think it's quite likely he would have a breakdown over having to "share" Cary with an infant. 

[TheFinalRose]

5 hours ago, WhoaWhoKnew said:

He and his family make wooden lockers for various professional and college sports teams. I think Stephanie mentioned the Chicago Cubs as one of their newer contracts.

Hmmm ... the Cubbies did get new locker rooms recently (but not the visiting teams at Wrigley). Who knew that was such a lucrative business.  

[mothmonsterman]

I hated Brandi last season, but this season I like her.  She isn't about kissing these women's asses, and she is actually quite smart.  I like Cameron, and that kind of woman I usually get along with well and just love the over the top nature, I also love drag queens for the same reasons.   But I do see how she could get on some people's nerves.  She reminds me of a fellow makeup artist I knew.  All she talked about what living by Lenny Krazitz and the fabulous things she did.  Most of the other girls wanted to choke her, I found it funny and fascinating.  When people asked me how I could stand her, I would just say "Elizabeth loves Elizabeth."  Cameron is the same way. 

Stephanie I like a lot more, too.  She married this man who gives her this extravagant life and she felt like she didn't deserve it (her words last season), and now she is realizing that some of the things he does to her is not right, so she is trying to find her voice, but she loves him, and doesn't really know how many demands she should be making.  They do have a good relationship in some ways, they talk and laugh together, he does things that show he cares (one scene he came out of nowhere with a chair for her to sit down in and she barely looked, just sat down and knew he had it--those are the little things that mean a lot to me).  

So, this show is layered, no one person is all good or all bad.  I like them all, kind of like New York.  

Edited September 24, 2017 by mothmonsterman

[Keywestclubkid]

9 hours ago, mothmonsterman said:

I like Cameron, and that kind of woman I usually get along with well and just love the over the top nature, I also love drag queens for the same reasons.   But I do see how she could get on some people's nerves.  She reminds me of a fellow makeup artist I knew.  All she talked about what living by Lenny Krazitz and the fabulous things she did.  Most of the other girls wanted to choke her, I found it funny and fascinating.  When people asked me how I could stand her, I would just say "Elizabeth loves Elizabeth."  Cameron is the same way.

Cameron is totally nou·veau riche no one with old money acts like that ...... she needs to be smacked down No one cares that you LIVE in Dallas and someone else lives in a suburb except someone who thinks their own worth is just that..... I live in Key West and we have TONS of Multi Millionaires around and most you wouldn't even know it by looking at them because they dont flaunt it in that way. They dont care if you know where they live or what they drive they just act like regular people.....

[pasdetrois]

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I can't like Carrie for the simple fact she married Mark and proceeding to have a child with this man-child.

Yeah, I thought during season one that she didn't respect him, and she undermined him through the arch asides and the shade she threw. They are both manipulators and right now she's trying to make the viewers think the fault is all his. She's also trying to be "Switzerland" in the disputes between the housewives.

[Neurochick]

I detest Brandi.  She is trash.  She said LeAnn has a potty mouth when she dropped four F bombs at the tea, and called another woman a bitch.  What a classless heifer. 

And I can't deal with Brandi, "I'm a VICTIM, my husband treats me bad!"  Brandi didn't care about anything but $$$ when she met her husband and Stephanie is another one, who wants people to think she's a victim.  Sorry, they knew they were marrying douchebags when they married them, and if these men didn't have money, they'd never have given these men a second look.

And if Cary is a medical professional; why didn't she sue the person who screwed up her face?  And LeAnn was right, Cary does act like a See You Next Tuesday.  And I can't believe Cary walked out of the house, like no one else has called her that word because she acts and looks like one too.

Edited September 24, 2017 by Neurochick

[WireWrap]

4 minutes ago, Neurochick said:

I detest Brandi.  She is trash.  She said LeAnn has a potty mouth when she dropped four F bombs at the tea, and called another woman a bitch.  What a classless heifer. 

And I can't deal with Brandi, "I'm a VICTIM, my husband treats me bad!"  Brandi didn't care about anything but $$$ when she met her husband and Stephanie is another one, who wants people to think she's a victim.  Sorry, they knew they were marrying douchebags when they married them, and if these men didn't have money, they'd never have given these men a second look.

She called out LeAnn for swearing in front of her daughters, not for swearing in front of adult women. LOL

[ShawnaLanne]

On 9/19/2017 at 1:54 PM, iloveit said:

Aww, Rich's proposal to Leeann was truly sweet.  As truly insane as she is (as evidenced by next week's preview), there is still something like every week that makes you root for Leann, even it is just for like one minute.

D'Andra continually calling out Leann is awesome.  I would love for her to bring her BS-meter and use it on all housewives. The Honestea is a ridiculous idea for real life but perfect for the Real HoWives.

I laughed out loud when Brandi mentioned the Mark is gay rumor and Leann turned and said, oh. well there we go.  The way she said that was hilarious.  (And I agree with Cary that it is offensive to spread the he is gay rumors as an insult.)

Cary needs to take Zuri and run.  What is Mark's redeeming quality? Being rich?  Cary seems like she could do way better.  I like her this year but I didn't like her at all last season and I can't remember why.  Maybe it was her gross scenes with Mark adn not actually her.  

Hopefully, we never have to hear Kameron complain about Brandi not giving her a present again.  I thought Brandi was trying to play nice by bringing her a gift bag and Kameron was just rude about it.  I think that Kameron expected Brandi to be falling all over her because she is the spoiled rich girl pretty princess and Brandi is the new money from the trailer park but Brandi doesn't care about that.  Is Kameron's whoel thing an act gone wrong?  Like she thought she would come off as cute and witty?

Brandi's kids seem wild in every scene.  It seems ill-advised to have another kid when she seems worn out already - just to get a boy.

I think she is the least attractive of the Housewives,  it's not only the obvious plastic surgery, and I don't think it's only her attitude. I think she is ugly on the outside. She demonstrates that painfully thin and bottled blond doesn't fix ugly. 

[Bronzedog]

Mark is despicable.

[WhoaWhoKnew]

1 hour ago, Neurochick said:

Brandi didn't care about anything but $$$ when she met her husband

Didn't they start dating in middle school? I'm not comfortable suggesting a 13 year old is a gold digger.

Edited September 24, 2017 by WhoaWhoKnew

[Sage47]

I saw the rerun of Watch What Happens Live with Brandi, Stephanie and Cary today. Andy asked Cary if it's true that she and Mark have to have sex every day. She said, "well, we don't HAVE to...we want to!" Um, right Cary, yes you do HAVE to. She is a liar if she says otherwise-I can only imagine Mark's wrath if she dared to turn him down one evening. He probably yells at Zuri to get the hell to bed so he and Cary can get it on. This guy is utterly repugnant. Secondly, eww at having sex with Mark in general. Everything about the guy is....icky. Last season he would show off for the cameras and have some designer gowns brought over to ogle his wife in, and then drop huge amounts of money on them even though she had nowhere to wear them. Insecure, pathetic little man.

I would love to be a fly on the wall when Kameron and her husband are hanging out around the house, no cameras. What is their relationship like? She is so bizarre, always posing and holding herself like a mannequin. Is she ever in pajamas with messy hair or does she wake up in a pink fur coat, perfectly made up??

[Rubyslippahz]

I want to run out and carve RICH + LEANN 4EVA into a tree stump.   I loved the state fair thing.   But it was a comedown to see their next scene where Leann basically said she was not going to be telling anyone they were engaged until he set a wedding date.    I do kinda love how most of their scenes together take place in Leann's closet.  

 

Mark Deuber is one of the creepiest RH husbands ever.  I wouldn't let him near me or a loved one with a scalpel.  I could believe that he and Cary are completely fabricating their storyline for the sake of storyline though.   On WWHL Cary said she used to date Lance Armstrong.    I think asshole rich guys are her type.   

D'Andra is like the antidote for when Leann gets snake venom cray.   Awesome how she reacted when Leann started in with "my mother never wanted me..."

 

i can't hate Brandi when she can do those awesome voice impressions and sounds.   

[Sun-Bun]

No joke: I had these reruns playing in the background most of today, and my husband kept cracking me up with his babytalking imitations of Brandi/Stephanie with their squeaky little voices. We won't even discuss his dead-on if oddly deranged Kameron impression.  I sincerely hope they consult vocal coaches to help cure their mousy Stepford vocal fry.

Most of these women have hideous voices and bad facial work, but I never thought I'd find any of them nearly as amusing as I somehow did today. Okay, and rewatching Leann dressed in her penis suit and talking to her dog, that was an oddly amusing moment too.

[Mindthinkr]

14 hours ago, Sage47 said:

I saw the rerun of Watch What Happens Live with Brandi, Stephanie and Cary today. Andy asked Cary if it's true that she and Mark have to have sex every day. She said, "well, we don't HAVE to...we want to!" Um, right Cary, yes you do HAVE to. She is a liar if she says otherwise-I can only imagine Mark's wrath if she dared to turn him down one evening. He probably yells at Zuri to get the hell to bed so he and Cary can get it on. This guy is utterly repugnant. Secondly, eww at having sex with Mark in general. Everything about the guy is....icky. Last season he would show off for the cameras and have some designer gowns brought over to ogle his wife in, and then drop huge amounts of money on them even though she had nowhere to wear them. Insecure, pathetic little man.

I would love to be a fly on the wall when Kameron and her husband are hanging out around the house, no cameras. What is their relationship like? She is so bizarre, always posing and holding herself like a mannequin. Is she ever in pajamas with messy hair or does she wake up in a pink fur coat, perfectly made up??

I was gobsmacked that Stephanie dated Lance Armstrong! Just after he and Sheryl Crow broke up. 

[Jextella]

16 hours ago, Rubyslippahz said:

I want to run out and carve RICH + LEANN 4EVA into a tree stump.   I loved the state fair thing.   But it was a comedown to see their next scene where Leann basically said she was not going to be telling anyone they were engaged until he set a wedding date.    I do kinda love how most of their scenes together take place in Leann's closet.  

 

Mark Deuber is one of the creepiest RH husbands ever.  I wouldn't let him near me or a loved one with a scalpel.  I could believe that he and Cary are completely fabricating their storyline for the sake of storyline though.   On WWHL Cary said she used to date Lance Armstrong.    I think asshole rich guys are her type.   

D'Andra is like the antidote for when Leann gets snake venom cray.   Awesome how she reacted when Leann started in with "my mother never wanted me..."

 

i can't hate Brandi when she can do those awesome voice impressions and sounds.   

Snake-venom crazy is the BEST and most apt description I've heard to describe Leann.  Thanks for that!

Agreed about all the rest, too.

[Sage47]

3 hours ago, Mindthinkr said:

I was gobsmacked that Stephanie dated Lance Armstrong! Just after he and Sheryl Crow broke up. 

It was Cary that dated him.

[Mindthinkr]

57 minutes ago, Sage47 said:

It was Cary that dated him.

Oops, thanks for the correction!