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The Lonely Js Club: Jason, James, Jackson & Johannah


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Discussing the charges against Jana is fine, but do not post any information that reveals her address/contact information- even if said documents are public (i.e. a part of court proceedings.)

Discussing charges against Jana is NOT a jumping off point to speculate on other instances abuse/neglect etc towards the M-children or to elaborate on Josh's conviction and potential victims.  

 

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On 11/23/2017 at 3:55 PM, Temperance said:

If you read the blog, they recommend a seminar from the I. B. L. P. The IBLP is the Institute Basic of Living Principles, which belongs to.... Bill Gothard! Remember JB grilling Derick about what to do about bad money situations and how even if he had medical bills and whatnot, he wouldn't go into debt?  This is exactly the same thing and I do agree with you about how people have to spend money on the necessities.  Bill Gothard, like a lot of fundie leaders, have many ideas that sound okay until you think them through as well as some terrible ones.  

So what have they done about what must have been astronomical medical costs for both babies' births? No debt?

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On 11/23/2017 at 1:45 PM, LilJen said:

Good heavens. It almost sounds like "bringing her home" = she was a hostage in some terrifying country for 5 years. (Sounds like that is how the family sees it. EEK!)

Hahahaha this is so funny! I absolutely can't believe that blog is for real. Did you see the part where they said to click more to learn about Leah? Leah was saying that homemaking was so much better than being miss America, and a few other titles similar to that. Last time I checked, most people don't wake up and say, "hmmmm, do I want to be miss America, or a SAHM?" It's not like miss America is a permanent job that lasts from 9-5 every day. The other things she listed were bizarrely not jobs either. It made me think...DOES this girl even know what a job is?

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As we have discussed Jana over the years, I have always held out a secret hope for her. I know she has witnessed a lot and we may never know her reasoning for staying single and not courting. But there has been speculation that she has turned down prospective suitors and she was the only one that publicly declared (to my knowledge - and recollection) the type of man she would like to marry. This just makes the think that she has had the choice to say “no”. Now of course, we won’t know this is true until maybe someday someone writes a “tell all”. She has watched her sisters eagerly marry and has seen those outcomes and not the results probably not pan out as promised. I secretly hope that she is choosing to do what she can under the constraints she is given. We all know she was reported as “willful” and sent to “ Journey of the heart” to be broken and kept in line.  Whether she is married off for ratings  stays as a SAHD remains to be seen. But if is true that she has turned down suitors while her sisters have seemingly jumped at the chance to Court and marry remains to be seen. I can only imagine that her sister’s eagerness to marry and subsequent aftermath has given her even more to consider. In all of this, if she has been allowed to put her foot down and say “no”, even in her very different world, it gives me hope for her. I know this is ijust my opinion and everything she does could be completely for show, but I hope not. I’m still going to hold out hope for whatever form of rebellion/ different path she can have in the life she was born into..  I can still secretly hope!

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Saw a headline the other day, yahoo's home page or facebook I believe, stating Jana is still at home because one of the the younger children is actually hers. I can't imagine how she'd feel seeing that.

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6 hours ago, ginger90 said:

Saw a headline the other day, yahoo's home page or facebook I believe, stating Jana is still at home because one of the the younger children is actually hers. I can't imagine how she'd feel seeing that.

Oh for heaven's sake.  I don't think so.  Yahoo has some pretty wacky stories.  

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This was debunked months ago. We’ve been seeing Michelle pregnant on TV for years. Years. We’ve seen Jana not pregnant on TV for years. Years.  Jana will be 28 next month. Exactly how old was she to have a baby older than the ones we’ve seen on TV and just which child would it have supposedly been ? 

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3 minutes ago, mythoughtis said:

This was debunked months ago. We’ve been seeing Michelle pregnant on TV for years. Years. We’ve seen Jana not pregnant on TV for years. Years.  Jana will be 28 next month. Exactly how old was she to have a baby older than the ones we’ve seen on TV and just which child would it have supposedly been ? 

I’m sure it has been debunked, I just saw it and wondered how Jana would feel reading it.

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49 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

I’m sure it has been debunked, I just saw it and wondered how Jana would feel reading it.

Grossed out?  That would be my reaction, but I bet she's already used to it, so maybe not.  I don't particularly want to think about anyone thinking I squeezed any of my siblings out of my nethers.  

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1 hour ago, FakeJoshDuggar said:

Josiah must be courting since he’s allowed to post on social media again. His Instagram is up and running. 

Oh hooray. Can’t wait to see what spews forth. 

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15 hours ago, ginger90 said:

Saw a headline the other day, yahoo's home page or facebook I believe, stating Jana is still at home because one of the the younger children is actually hers. I can't imagine how she'd feel seeing that.

They probably got the idea for the story based on the SVU episode that resembled the Duggars. 

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Oh how incredibly frustrating it must be to be Jana and JD. They don’t appear to enjoy the attention (in my estimation) thrust upon them by their parents need to be on television so many years ago. Every picture we see is taken and posted by someone else. Jana can’t make a move without intense speculation as to what it means. Possible suitors publicly shooting down courting rumors, etc. She’s had to endure her bizarre upbringing and now she is constantly in the public limelight for every sighting.  She was so young when the show started and had no control over having her life chronicled forever.  She seems to me to be private, while other siblings clearly love the attention. Of course this is only my estimation but it sure would make me nuts if I was exposed like that. I just can’t see JD saying ‘Yeah,post my picture too!” It’s just my take on it but it really is sad. SMH.

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On 12/4/2017 at 5:54 AM, ginger90 said:

Saw a headline the other day, yahoo's home page or facebook I believe, stating Jana is still at home because one of the the younger children is actually hers. I can't imagine how she'd feel seeing that.

Unfortunately, shit like that only serves to reinforce the mistrust of the world she's been taught.

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On 11/21/2017 at 9:43 PM, mynextmistake said:

I was wondering about this ITO the Duggars, because I thought I had remembered one of the girls (maybe Jessa or Jinger) saying they were interested in being a nurse. Assuming they could complete the training, would they be allowed to be nurses? Because, in all honesty, we see a lot of peen, and you can’t really opt out of those parts of the job. I guess you could focus on pediatrics (although even then you would have some postpubescent male patients) or OB, but in pretty much any other specialty you’re gonna have to have a certain amount of contact with man parts. Would this be left up to their headship, or would it just be a non-starter?

Well, we can look to our esteemed vice president, who refuses to even dine alone with a female acquaintance. Lest, presumably, she or he become overwhelmingly and uncontrollably consumed by lust. VFLOTUS "Mother" wouldn't appreciate that. 

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43 minutes ago, xtwheeler said:

Well, we can look to our esteemed vice president, who refuses to even dine alone with a female acquaintance. Lest, presumably, she or he become overwhelmingly and uncontrollably consumed by lust. VFLOTUS "Mother" wouldn't appreciate that. 

Yes!  I ended up watching SNLs parody of A Christmas Carol. FLOTUS asked POTUS to come help her set up the Nativity Scene because Mrs Pence wouldn’t want her husband “playing with dolls”.  I was slayed, because all I could think of was how that was a page right out of the Jim Boob Playbook. 

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On 12/6/2017 at 5:38 AM, OneMoreStop said:

Oh how incredibly frustrating it must be to be Jana and JD. They don’t appear to enjoy the attention (in my estimation) thrust upon them by their parents need to be on television so many years ago. Every picture we see is taken and posted by someone else. Jana can’t make a move without intense speculation as to what it means. Possible suitors publicly shooting down courting rumors, etc. She’s had to endure her bizarre upbringing and now she is constantly in the public limelight for every sighting.  She was so young when the show started and had no control over having her life chronicled forever.  She seems to me to be private, while other siblings clearly love the attention. Of course this is only my estimation but it sure would make me nuts if I was exposed like that. I just can’t see JD saying ‘Yeah,post my picture too!” It’s just my take on it but it really is sad. SMH.

JD & Jana also remember the hard times pre-TV show and the laundry room meltdown very clearly because of their age (and Josh as well, although since he was Michelle's golden child and the first male heir, I suspect he was somewhat shielded from it). Jana and JD both just look like they have seen some shit.  I'd be a pretty damn private person, too, if I clearly remembered what the lean days were like and knew what skeletons were in the family closet but had to go along with the public family image because I knew what life was like with a gazillion siblings living in a 3 bedroom house eating whatever love offerings were dropped off. 

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What I find interesting about the girls when it came to finding someone suitable to court is how they talk about the creeps who came calling. How ironic is that especially having Josh as a brother. What he did goes beyond being a major creep. It also grosses me out when Jill and Jessa said they went to their dad and Josh in order to find out how to kiss. There is not enough brain bleach in the universe to erase that image out of my mind.

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Oh...My...God....what? Josh's sisters went to HIM about kissing? Someone who sexually molested them....repeatedly? Goes to show you just how screwed up this family is. Those years of Christian isolation from the real world did them more harm than good. What is wrong with them? I would NEVER go to my FATHER either about that. He would have been mortified had I inquired anything in that area. People actually want to mimic these people.

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16 minutes ago, bigskygirl said:

Jill and Jessa thought JB and Josh were kissing experts because they were married. I think they also went to Michelle and Anna for tips also. Sickening!!!

Better Michelle and Anna than freakin' Boob and Fuckface.

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Well, who else would they ask?  I agree it's disgusting, but they aren't allowed to know or interact with any married people socially when they're singletons, and especially not underage singletons, as we've learned retroactively from Jana.  They aren't allowed to admit they have kissed if they're single and uncourting, so even if JD or Jana had outer-circle friends attending real Christian colleges who have engaged in light petting sessions who could've been applied to instead, the friends probably wouldn't have wanted to admit it.  I also thought it was pretty much an open established secret that Josh was caught looking at porn on some computer in connection with Jim Holt's Senate campaign/headquarters, so it's also a pretty safe assumption that any Duggar computers in primary traffic areas have indecency filters up the ying-yang whenever possible, so it's eminently possible they can't even sneak  "French kissing" past.  (Which is a primary reason why I have humongous doubts that Joy and Austin did the deed before the wedding, because damn, you can't even figure out how to kiss in the Duggar family; and also why I don't really have any doubts that Jessa believes her blather about Josh just being a curious traditional typical little scamp and that feeling her up was no big.  They've been brainwashed into believing it's such a nonentity as an action, that there isn't any reason why she shouldn't ask her molester for kissing tips.)  

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I also think it's possible that it never happened -- that it was part of a script that JB wrote. I think that -- from their perspective -- this anecdote shows how charmingly innocent the girls are, and how close the family is. I also don't think that the over-the-top squick factor really registers with them -- and it would have been over-the-top for me even before the Josh scandal.

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3 minutes ago, queenanne said:

Well, who else would they ask?  I agree it's disgusting, but they aren't allowed to know or interact with any married people socially when they're singletons, and especially not underage singletons, as we've learned retroactively from Jana.  They aren't allowed to admit they have kissed if they're single and uncourting, so even if JD or Jana had outer-circle friends attending real Christian colleges who have engaged in light petting sessions who could've been applied to instead, the friends probably wouldn't have wanted to admit it.  I also thought it was pretty much an open established secret that Josh was caught looking at porn on some computer in connection with Jim Holt's Senate campaign/headquarters, so it's also a pretty safe assumption that any Duggar computers in primary traffic areas have indecency filters up the ying-yang whenever possible, so it's eminently possible they can't even sneak  "French kissing" past.  (Which is a primary reason why I have humongous doubts that Joy and Austin did the deed before the wedding, because damn, you can't even figure out how to kiss in the Duggar family; and also why I don't really have any doubts that Jessa believes her blather about Josh just being a curious traditional typical little scamp and that feeling her up was no big.  They've been brainwashed into believing it's such a nonentity as an action, that there isn't any reason why she shouldn't ask her molester for kissing tips.)  

You hit it on the nail or head. They were not allowed to ask questions about kissing because those type of thoughts were considered sinful and naughty. Reminds me of the one episode of The Golden Girls when Rose said people who constantly talked about sex were the ones who were not having it. I mean kids can become curious about sex and kissing, but it does not mean they will jump on someone in order to get a feel or kiss. I do remember the sex and birth control talk in PE class in high school and the way the boys were reacting to it. People thought we were all going to run out and have sex and the girls would get pregnant right away.

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Pickles has some new pictures of Christmas at the TTH. Why is Lawson there? Looks like Jana is sitting across from him in the kitchen!? Strange and no Caleb Williams. Pickles also has some information that Caleb is selling cars with the Duggars so he might not be there for Jana. :(

Sorry I don't know how to lift the pictures. 

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That photo posted of Jana with Jennifer? strapped to her body while trying to play the piano was telling and so sad in it's meaning. Jana having her MOTHER'S BABY strapped to HER BODY. We all know this began years before that photo was taken. Just a despicable thing for Michelle to do to her daughters, IMO.

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23 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

Okey doke. They posted a Godly video in the FB page. I prefer to leave this as-is.

Wonderful, kind young men with absolutely no future whatsoever, thanks to us! Hip hip hooray! 

Mom and Dad Duggar 

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5 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

Michelle looks deranged. It would've been a nice picture if she was cropped out of it. Do you think she remembers which twin is which?

I'm sorry. No picture is nice that has a big honkin face of Jizm Bob staring out of it. 

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One of the twins thanked his mom for "having" him.  Is that normal?

Neither of my three ever thanked me for having them.  I mean, the kids are here, not because they chose to be born, but really, due to unprotected sex!

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9 minutes ago, louannems said:

One of the twins thanked his mom for "having" him.  Is that normal?

Neither of my three ever thanked me for having them.  I mean, the kids are here, not because they chose to be born, but really, due to unprotected sex!

Normal for the Duggars while being insanely abnormal for anyone else? .... I think I've heard other Duggars say it previous special-occasion PR postings. .... Maybe it's because they can't think of anything else to thank her for?  .... 

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1 hour ago, BitterApple said:

Michelle looks deranged. It would've been a nice picture if she was cropped out of it. Do you think she remembers which twin is which?

One is the good looking one and the other one is destined to join his brothers in the "you poor thing" department.

I'll be in the prayer closet.

I missed the "I'm not courting Jana Duggar lmao!" posts. FFS. Shows how little respect they have for the women in these circles. Gross.

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12 minutes ago, Churchhoney said:

Normal for the Duggars while being insanely abnormal for anyone else? .... I think I've heard other Duggars say it previous special-occasion PR postings. .... Maybe it's because they can't think of anything else to thank her for?  .... 

I think that's the key. No thanking Michelle for imparting her Godly values and wisdom, or helping them get dressed/feeding them/etc. when younger, playing with them, kissing their boo-boos, etc...just thanking her for giving birth to them, as if that is all she did for them.

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36 minutes ago, Marigold said:

I swear, I've never seen the twin on our left.  What's his story?  

By this picture, he looks to be about 14 and in that awkward puberty stage.  uh....

I'm pretty sure that's Jedidiah ... or saintly twin? and the other one is Jeremiah -- sinner twin? 

 

Of course, like Meeechelle, I could easily have that backwards. 

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1 hour ago, louannems said:

One of the twins thanked his mom for "having" him.  Is that normal?

Neither of my three ever thanked me for having them.  I mean, the kids are here, not because they chose to be born, but really, due to unprotected sex!

In their world, everyone who is not “them” is out having recreational abortions. The fact that Michelle “had” them is super Jesusy because no one else on earth procreates in such a godly fashion. Or something. 

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2 hours ago, louannems said:

One of the twins thanked his mom for "having" him.  Is that normal?

Neither of my three ever thanked me for having them.  I mean, the kids are here, not because they chose to be born, but really, due to unprotected sex!

I think it depends on the context. Does everything in the world revolve around you? If not, then it's probably normal that your kids don't regularly thank you for having them.

Remember that the entire world revolves around J'chelle's magic uterus. She spent her valuable time incubating those two ingrates. She also nursed them for 6 whole months before handing them off to their 8 year old sister mom. They'd better say thank you.

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2 hours ago, PikaScrewChu said:

One is the good looking one and the other one is destined to join his brothers in the "you poor thing" department.

I'll be in the prayer closet.

I missed the "I'm not courting Jana Duggar lmao!" posts. FFS. Shows how little respect they have for the women in these circles. Gross.

I have no idea which one is supposed to be the good looking one. I just don’t see it.

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Ha! I think they're both reasonably attractive, but Jed looks fairly similar to the other older brothers (minus Josh), which means his looks will start to decline quickly, whereas Jer (the one with the hat and darker, curlier hair) doesn't look quite as Duggar-ish.

I still can't keep track of which one is sinner twin. Jed? He was the one laying it on thick to "Momma" in the video, so I guess he's reformed, or learned to play along.

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