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S09.E13: A Bronx Tale


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9 minutes ago, bagger said:

Soooo, soooo much Dorinda total MVP

Drunk or sober, I just love her. She keeps it real (real drunk, sometimes), but doesn't seem like she has a mean bone in her body. She was so wildly entertaining tonight.

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What the hell is "Clip! Clip! Clip!"?! I was so lost when Dorinda lost it. I saw the wild hands, but when she stood up, I knew we were off at the races. Her drunkeness is just not cute to me. I think it's largely because, like LuAnn (Bitch, what? You didn't invite these women--save Dorinda--to your wedding but expected that they'd give you the best room in a vacation home?), Dorinda behaves soooooo poorly when drunk while simultaneously acting as though she holds the keys to the etiquette suite. 

And Ramona? What can I say? Everybody hates you. Nobody likes you. Guess you should go eat some worms. 

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9 minutes ago, howiveaddict said:

That is what I thought too.  

Someone commented about Dorinda passing out, in the middle of the day, in Vermont.  IF I had just drove myself all that way, I would need a nap too.  I find travel draining.

LOL at Sonja doing her old lady walk after getting out of the car.  That is exactly how I am when riding very far.  Everything stiffens up.

Dorinda has mentioned on several occasions that she has to take a nap every day.

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1 hour ago, TexasGal said:

Wonky editing - Lu abandons ship in Little Bronx Italy during Dorinda's drunken rant.  Then she's there!  Then she's not!

She said she went to the bathroom  when the shit started flying

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48 minutes ago, Otherkate said:

I don't comment much on Tinsley because I know I have some preconceived opinions/notions about her from her time as an "It girl" here in NYC and I want to give her a chance. That said - I think it's a pretty terrible idea for her to chase this boyfriend/relationship thing as hard as she seems to be chasing it. Seems like she could benefit from a little time on her own to figure out who she is without a man. 

You're right, but Tinsley is probably afraid of being alone. She strikes me as the type who has always been under someone else's wings, and although she resents having to answer to someone else, she's probably terrified to live another way. I felt bad for her at the dinner; knowing the sensible thing to do is very different from actually doing it.

 

6 minutes ago, Bronzedog said:

I just saw the preview for next week.  Did Luann just get married?  She should have mentioned it to someone.

Lol! Thankfully, the ex-Countess would never be tacky enough to milk her marriage privileges in front of The Uninvited.

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15 minutes ago, Bronzedog said:

I just saw the preview for next week.  Did Luann just get married?  She should have mentioned it to someone.

 

WHAT!!!!!!

There is no way, did she got married? how did I miss that? 

LMAO!!!

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Dorinda says she always has a disco ball when she travels because they might need music and it's wifi.  Also the luggage just arrived by production magic.  So that's all my mysteries solved.

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6 minutes ago, Michichick said:

Holy hell, the entitlement from Ramona, Sonja, and Lu regarding the rooms was off the charts. I'm delighted that Carole made sure Dorinda had the best room.

I wouldn't want to hang around with drunk Dorinda in person, but I sure did enjoy the heck out of her on my TV. Best episode this season.

Like x 1000!

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37 minutes ago, Wendy said:

Luann back to her Countess arrogant behavior, reminding everyone why she should have special treatment. 

The only time I have liked Luann is when she dared to be herself when she was single and ready to mingled and made no apologies about being a woman on the prowl. 

This whole charade about being so proper and prim is not the real Luann.  Or maybe it is which would make it even more disappointing. 

I think the real Luann is a slut!! Remember when vacationing she slept w/that random guy they said was married, she was unfazed. Then she married the guy that 2 of her friends were involved with. No matter how you slice it she's pretty out there!!!!

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32 minutes ago, KenyaJ said:

Drunk or sober, I just love her. She keeps it real (real drunk, sometimes), but doesn't seem like she has a mean bone in her body. She was so wildly entertaining tonight.

There is something appealing about Dorinda's "realness" but the trait I don't like is the propensity for low blows.  The comments (and gesture) to accompany the dig about Sonja being a hostess.  It isn't the first time she's gone down that type of road.  

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12 minutes ago, Yolo said:

I think the real Luann is a slut!! Remember when vacationing she slept w/that random guy they said was married, she was unfazed. Then she married the guy that 2 of her friends were involved with. No matter how you slice it she's pretty out there!!!!

 

It was funny in a bad way when Luann got so upset with Sonja when she mentioned that they have had sex with the same guy. 

Luann probably forgot Harry, the pirate and that is only the ones the viewers know, who knows how many else these two have shared. (besides Tom)

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59 minutes ago, Duke2801 said:

That's almost as bad as her not buying a plane ticket to Palm Beach AND forgetting her bridesmaid dress when she got to Lu's wedding venue. What is this woman smoking??? LOL

I was thinking the exact same thing - about forgetting her plane tix and dress - when she said she'd left her bags in front of the apartment. She's like a functioning drunk we know who's teetering on the edge of becoming a non-functioning drunk. His decline has been a slow roll but it started out with him doing "funny" forgetful things like Dorinda. Now, we aren't laughing anymore.  Wonder if Bravo will turn this into a storyline? Lawd knows this franchise needs one but if Dorinda really is a drunk, I don't wanna watch it. When was the last time we had a RH intervention? Doesn't it seem like they're focusing on her drunkenness again?

Pipe down, Ramona.

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1 hour ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Geez, one of the chefs used Lu's bathroom.

First of all, he is The Help.

Second, doesn't he realize she just got married?

 

Third, he watched the wrong season and called her Mrs. DeLesseps.  

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1 minute ago, steelcitysister said:

 

Third, he watched the wrong season and called her Mrs. DeLesseps.  

Well isn't that her true, professional stage name from the one "Law & Order: SVU" episode cameo she made? 

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1 hour ago, Pickles said:

I am obviously in the minority. I thought Dorinda was crass and obnoxious at the Bronx lunch. I would have been leaving the table with Luann. 

She was,  but it was amusing. Also,  I mean polite and classy doesn't seem to get through to Sonja or Ramona. 

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Well, it certainly wasn't a boring episode.  Going to the Bronx.  Well, heck, I know it well.  Arthur Avenue.  Know it well.  Sorry Beth.  You weren't 'going Bronx' and let's not stereotype.  None of them were going Bronx maybe except Dorinda.  As much as I was entertained by the Dorinda and So exchange, imagine if you came to this restaurant for a peaceful lunch.

Apparently, Dorinda 'forgetting' her luggage was totally 'production'.  Glad we found that out on WWHL tonight. (edited to add:  Sorry I heard the question incorrectly.  Apparently production delivered her luggage)

I just can't with Ro.  I just can't with Ro and So on the room situation.  Ok.  I do get Ro wanting to not drink Skinnygirl product. 

Really Lu?  You're almost on Ro level with your deserving a special room because you just got married.

Most stand out moment for me was at the dinner at the Lincoln log house.  Tinsley is very upset.  Lu makes the comment that they've all been there.  Then Beth says what she's been through is the equivalent of what Tinsley has been through.  Way to diminish someone's feelings.  Neither of them know what Tinsley has been through.  How about just trying to understand and comfort someone. 

And of course, So has to say that Tinsley has been living at her house for free.

It's just such a big freaking competition about who is the greatest victim.  Sorry, I do feel for Tinsley.  And then we have Beth making fun of her because she didn't want to be downstairs by herself.  She was afraid.  No empathy at all but we all have to hear about Beth's 'torture' and 'hell'

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8 minutes ago, Wendy said:

 

It was funny in a bad way when Luann got so upset with Sonja when she mentioned that they have had sex with the same guy. 

Luann probably forgot Harry, the pirate and that is only the ones the viewers know, who knows how many else these two have shared. (besides Tom)

Sonja said she was trying to be funny. If Tom had made this "joke," Lu would've pretended to laugh. 

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OMG the beginning with Dorinda was all kinds of awesome.  It was just so out there and funny.   Not like the usual screaming fights that happen at restaurants.  

    Did not like the lack of empathy the ladies showed Tinsley.   Have wonder if they showed they cared even a little how different that scene would have been. 

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2 minutes ago, Bronzedog said:

The one time Luann appeared to have a sense of humor was when she put her arm around Carole and started to lead her out of the restaurant and said "let me get you out of here before you kill someone" after the guy at the other table said she looked like one of the Trumps (don't remember which Trump). 

Melania; initially Ivanna Trump! Lu helped the old fool out! 

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32 minutes ago, escatefromny said:

There is something appealing about Dorinda's "realness" but the trait I don't like is the propensity for low blows.  The comments (and gesture) to accompany the dig about Sonja being a hostess.  It isn't the first time she's gone down that type of road.  

Ooooo. I'm slow and maybe missed the comment.  I thought the crotch thing was like telling her to suck her Dick. ... It fits with the crudeness. But it was really call8ng her an escort. I'm okay with both.  Crude,  but... 

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I do love Dorinda, she forgets to pick up her luggage! 
Then when she is drunk at the Italian restaurant, she tells stupid Sonja where to go! How long do they hang on to their texts, gawd,I delete mine PDQ!
Sonja and especially Ramona complaining about Dorinda having a better room, running around like they are 12 makes me sick! Its ridiculous...
The rest was just filler and camera time...

As far as Dorinda being crude, thats Betheny's gig usually. Next week anal sex and how big is John's penis...

I laughed at BF attire, that sweater with the skis on the back, looked like it was Bryn's..lol!

21 minutes ago, tribeca said:

OMG the beginning with Dorinda was all kinds of awesome.  It was just so out there and funny.   Not like the usual screaming fights that happen at restaurants.  

    Did not like the lack of empathy the ladies showed Tinsley.   Have wonder if they showed they cared even a little how different that scene would have been. 

The first to get up was Ramona, then Dorinda hugged her. She's going through an emotional time, of course Bethenny tells her to Google her! Wth? Let Tinsley be, she doesn't need to Google your crap BF! 

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14 minutes ago, Wendy said:

 

IMO it was not lacking sympathy for her situation.  It is the constant complaint of Tinsley about her living situation in Casa Morgan that almost resembles the abusive situation she was recently involved in. 

Tinsley has an easy solution, she has the resources to move out and eliminate one of the triggers of her anxiety.  Even if that means moving temporarily to a hotel. 

I thought the ladies were trying to let her know that she doesn't have to take the abuse of living in a house with so many rules, where she can't bring friends or has to live in eggshells as to not offend her host, she has an easy solution.

Tinsley really should consider their advice and move out ASAP, it would be good for her mental sanity and probably the first step in moving on with her life.  

What the women and a lot of other missed was that Tinsley was saying she wasn't ready to live on her own. She was physically beaten, badly, she was emotionally beaten as well, all of which makes a person fearful to be alone and question their gut instincts/thoughts, well makes them question everything they do/think. She wants to live with someone that isn't trying to control her, which is what Sonja is doing.

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2 minutes ago, Teddybear said:

So is "clip" really a thing?  Has anyone heard anyone say it besides Dorinda?  

I don't think it'll ever really be a thing unless it's accompanied by those hilariously goofy drunk faces Dorinda was making while saying it. She literally looked like a deranged muppet!

Speaking of deranged muppets, I'm sure they're annoying as Hell to deal with in real time, but I always love the ridiculous vacation antics of Ramona & Sonja. The drunkenly loud banter, the irksome bedroom search-and-share, the all hours drunkathon...it just never seems to end, does it? 

As far as other things I hope never end, Dorinda is a crazy drunken meatball and I'll always love her forever for every slurry classic rant she's dragged in front of the cameras. And her wacky travel disco ball, of course.

Since when did those big furry Ugg boots make a comeback? Those are so 2000-who cares.

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1 minute ago, WireWrap said:

What the women and a lot of other missed was that Tinsley was saying she wasn't ready to live on her own. She was physically beaten, badly, she was emotionally beaten as well, all of which makes a person fearful to be alone and question their gut instincts/thoughts, well makes them question everything they do/think. She wants to live with someone that isn't trying to control her, which is what Sonja is doing.

Maybe she just wants Tinsley to be another intern and that's why she makes so many demands of her! I wouldn't put up with Sonja's crap! She has enough problems without trying to help someone with theirs! 

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3 hours ago, chick binewski said:

"I only ski in Aspen." You decorate from the discount table at TJ Maxx GET OVER YOURSELF RAMONA.

ARGH!!!  It is right up there with her Hamptons crap that she spewed when they went to Heather's house in the Berkshires. 

3 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

Why did Luann assume that Sonja was talking about Tom as opposed to Harry or the Pirate?

Hah!  I was sitting there myself thinking that it could have applied to multiple men!  

3 hours ago, Martinigirl said:

LOL!!! Dorinda is still drunk!!! LMAO!!! NO clothes!

She did remember the disco ball. God I love Dorinda!

I do so love Dorinda.  She is one of those people that is just hilarious when she gets mad at someone. 

2 hours ago, QuinnM said:

No remember Bethenny and Carole discussing Tinsley fall from grace.  And I guarantee that if Bethenny didn't google it her staff did and they gossiped like crazy.

No, no...  That would be Ramona who would have googled.  Remember, she is the one who has a private detective do research on the ladies in the off season so that way she is fully armed going into a season. 

1 hour ago, escatefromny said:

There is something appealing about Dorinda's "realness" but the trait I don't like is the propensity for low blows.  The comments (and gesture) to accompany the dig about Sonja being a hostess.  It isn't the first time she's gone down that type of road.  

Ok, I need to watch it again (gladly because it is priceless and needs to be in the Smithsonian) but I took the whole hostess comments differently.  I think it was more of a blow to the fact that Sonja keeps trying to spin it as she was a consultant for restaurants when she was really just a hostess. I am not saying that there is anything wrong with being a hostess. But it would be like Lu trying to claim that she was the CNO of a hospital when she was really a nurse. 

1 hour ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Geez, one of the chefs used Lu's bathroom.

First of all, he is The Help.

Second, doesn't he realize she just got married?

No, no. It isn't Lu's bathroom.  It is Mrs. D'Agostino formerly known as Countess DeLesepps' bathroom. 

Did we know she just got married?  Has it been mentioned in the last 5 minutes?  'Cause we all apparently suffer from short-term memory problems and need it mentioned every 5 minutes. 

18 minutes ago, Sun-Bun said:

I don't think it'll ever really be a thing unless it's accompanied by those hilariously goofy drunk faces Dorinda was making while saying it. She literally looked like a deranged muppet!

Speaking of deranged muppets, I'm sure they're annoying as Hell to deal with in real time, but I always love the ridiculous vacation antics of Ramona & Sonja. The drunkenly loud banter, the irksome bedroom search-and-share, the all hours drunkathon...it just never seems to end, does it? 

As far as other things I hope never end, Dorinda is a crazy drunken meatball and I'll always love her forever for every slurry classic rant she's dragged in front of the cameras. And her wacky travel disco ball, of course.

Since when did those big furry Ugg boots make a comeback? Those are so 2000-who cares.

Leave Uggs alone!!!  I own a pair. They are monogrammed and people LOVE them. 

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48 minutes ago, Wendy said:

 

IMO it was not lacking sympathy for her situation.  It is the constant complaint of Tinsley about her living situation in Casa Morgan that almost resembles the abusive situation she was recently involved in. 

Tinsley has an easy solution, she has the resources to move out and eliminate one of the triggers of her anxiety.  Even if that means moving temporarily to a hotel. 

I thought the ladies were trying to let her know that she doesn't have to take the abuse of living in a house with so many rules, where she can't bring friends or has to live in eggshells as to not offend her host, she has an easy solution.

Tinsley really should consider their advice and move out ASAP, it would be good for her mental sanity and probably the first step in moving on with her life.  

I have to disagree.  The reason why Tinsley didn't move out was about her fear of living alone.  It may seem to be an easy solution but Tinsley's fear of being 'alone' was greater in her mind at that point.

I also don't see that the women were saying that she didn't have to take the abuse of living in a house with so many rules.  What I saw was women (Beth and Lu) saying to her is that they've experienced the same thing she has been through and just basically get over it.  She is no different.  I thought that very disingenuous.

Yes, Tinsley should move out of So's house.  And she has since.  However, at that time I thought there was a lack of compassion about Tinsley's feelings.  There was a dismissal that I saw and Tinsley felt.

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Ramona and Sonja are both grossing me out this season - yuk.  No one gives zero f's about either of you two any more.  

Tinsley,  cut your hair and quit with the ultra  de la fem outfits...you are 41 not 21.  I think you have a lot to offer, but jeesh, get a hobby.  Dayum, why are you living with sicko Sonja?

Dorinda forever!

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1 hour ago, breezy424 said:

 

Apparently, Dorinda 'forgetting' her luggage was totally 'production'.  Glad we found that out on WWHL tonight.

 

Can you elaborate? (I don't get WWHL so missed out). What was this supposed to prove? To me it just made Dorinda look, as others have pointed out, like her drinking is getting the best of her. (I didn't believe that John is so good in bed she forgot to pick up her luggage. Sorry John). Did she really have clothes etc. at the cabin? 

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The 'clip clip clip' scene had me dying with laughter. Dorinda is a drunken fool but she makes for great TV because she's foolish at her own expense. Minus her drunken confrontation with Sonja at Thanksgiving...or maybe it was Christmas dinner, Dorinda usually manages to stay out of the below the belt style confrontation. Sonja has been instigating Dorinda this season but man, when Dorinda goes off she has no filter whatsoever. How the hell did Dorinda manage to travel from NYC to Vermont and never realized that she didn't have any luggage with her? 

I could never vacation with Ramona. I might just clock her just to get her to shut up. She's got some nerve asking people to serve her.  And her and Sonja's need to always make noise about getting the best room...just stop it. If you aren't trying to be obnoxious then that just means that you're just plain obnoxious without even needing to try. Luann was being pretentious. Bethenny was totally spot on, Luann didn't bring her husband so the fact that she just got married it irrelevant to how big her room is and how far the closest bathroom is. Big whoop...why do some of these women act like they grew up in palaces made of gold in the Middle East and have no idea what it means to have a bedroom with a single sink or God forbid, a bedroom that doesn't have it's own ensuite? 

Sonja is pretty delusional thinking that living with her is going to enhance anyone's reputation. Her antics are infamous and she's made no secrete about her love of men, sex, juggling boy toys and always on the look out for that one guy that can give her the mansion, fancy lifestyle and the huge rock on her left finger. How is Tinsley living with her supposed to shied Tinsley from having a reputation that's actually quite similar to the reputation she's made for herself. Tinsley is a grown ass woman and if she wants to live on her own and entertain a different man each night, she can damn well do so. Sonja is wanting the same things as Tinsley and yet she's doing all the things that she's to lecture Tinsley about not doing. Girl shut the hell up. 

I'm not sure what Tinsley was trying to get across the women. Given the trauma she suffered it's understandable that she may not feel ready to live on her own or to jump into another serious relationship, but the women were simply pointing out that her current living situation isn't working because she's putting herself in another situation where she is letting someone else control her. The answer doesn't have to be 'you're grown ass woman go live on your own'. At least I don't recall any of the women chastising her for being a certain age and still living with someone else. I think the message was simple enough - just move out. She does still have the option of moving in with someone else whether that's another friend or someone who is a family member. If she's so traumatized by her past experiences, it's probably better for her to live with someone who can provide emotional support and help to build her confidence and independence, not someone who is trying to make her a pet project to reintroduce her to NYC society. 

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FYI everyone Bethenny was abused.

ABUSED. And shame on Tinsley for bringing up her "abuse" while in the presence of the more tortured.

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There is something appealing about Dorinda's "realness" but the trait I don't like is the propensity for low blows.

The slut-shaming is just pure hatefulness. Maybe that good Queens coke cock will clip that butthurt she has for Sonja's sexuality.

Carole being told she looks like Ivakia/Melania was GOLD.

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4 hours ago, motorcitymom65 said:

I am not sure that these gals at this point know what exactly happened to Tinsley. Not just Beth, but all of them. After she said she had been both physically and emotionally abused, Lu said "all of us have been there, every single one of us". I still don't think they know what it is she is saying happened to her. 

 

I mean, Bethenny evidently feels that people should "Google me" before making uninformed assertions about her. 

Articles like this were running almost a full year prior to the time at which this scene was filmed: http://jezebel.com/police-reports-reveal-tinsley-mortimers-allegedly-abusi-1771650802

At the table, Tinsley stated that the abuse was both physical and mental. She also identified it as "the most traumatic experience of my life." 

Bethenny wrote in her blog that Tinsley "talks a lot about this 'abusive' relationship."

So ... has talked often about it; specified that she was abused both physically and mentally; and stipulated that the abuse was bad enough that it constituted the worst thing to ever happen in her life.

How much clearer does it need to get for B and the other women?

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I can see why Lu was annoyed with Sonja. Much like with Dorinda Sonja has talked a lot of smack about Tom and Lu and her relationship with Tom to have that come off as a joke. 

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11 hours ago, UsernameFatigue said:

Can you elaborate? (I don't get WWHL so missed out). What was this supposed to prove? To me it just made Dorinda look, as others have pointed out, like her drinking is getting the best of her. (I didn't believe that John is so good in bed she forgot to pick up her luggage. Sorry John). Did she really have clothes etc. at the cabin? 

When asked about her forgetting her luggage, Dorinda's reply was 'production'.  in other words, it was fake.

Edited to add:  Apparently I misheard what Dorinda was asked.  The question was how did she finally get her luggage or something to that effect and she 'production?'

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Why did I get the feeling  the male patrons in the Bronx restaurant were waiting for Dorinda to flip the table

    I did giggle when one of the guys told  Carole she  looked like one of Trump's women

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