Season 2 Discussion

[poeticlicensed]

10 minutes ago, John M said:

I'm reminded about my other favorite show about clearly doomed marriages, Say Yes to The Dress where half the women want sexy wedding dresses. Come on, it's a wedding, everything doesn't have to be sexy, buy some nice lingerie for the honeymoon, you don't need to look like your wedding dress came from Fredericks of Hollywood.

I stopped watching Say Yes to the Dress when one of the brides wanted a dress cut so low in the back that her butt crack showed.  

[Kellyee]

That supposed model networking event seemed to be 99% models, and very few hiring agents or important people. I really wonder if that whole event was staged for the show, or if Paola's agent is really that horrible at getting models jobs.

Also, Paola is a beautiful woman, but when you look at her next to the other models, she looks a little overweight and doesn't really stand out. She has a nice body, but not a model body. I think her best shot is those car races she was working before, and cheap music videos. She's not making the cover of Vogue. And how come Russ got a job so fast and yet Paola hasn't worked for MONTHS?

If that is really the worst week of Chantel's whole life, she can suck it. The worst weeks of my life involve people dying, being diagnosed with cancer, or having a stroke. I realize that she's still young, but Chantel is also horribly spoiled. And she barely apologized for her family before launching into another whine-fest about her supposed tiny apartment. Pedro's family is using them totally, but Chantel needs to realize she married a Mama's boy, and either accept it or get out.

[Mrs. Hanson]

3 hours ago, Pepper Mostly said:

I give up on Pao completely. She is utterly selfish and deluded.

River would rather hook up with Pedro or I miss my guess.

So, Chantel sent Pedro to talk to her father and brother so they could explain her feelings? (flipping tables here). Girl. He's your husband.

Mama Pedro and Nicole behaved badly but my god Chantel had it coming. Pedro has endured endless insults at the hands of her toxic, classless, rude family. They know that Chantel's parents have insulted them to Pedro's face, and called him a con artist and a user. Not once has Chantel stood up for her husband. Not once has she defended him.  She goes to bed and plays with her phone after throwing her husband under the bus, expecting her parents and him to duke it out. She loves that its all about her, though. All Chantel, all the time.

Bolding mine:  Who the hell sends the hubby to talk to YOUR OWN FAMILY about this crap?  Oh yeah.....an immature girl who brought home her vacation bed buddy.   Listen, both families are horrid:  Chantel's family is overinvolved (but she allowed it and lied to them - a whopper of a lie, by the way - and Pedro's family is just as horrid.  The mom and sister is rude and snotty and I don't care if either of them cures cancer tomorrow they will always be the rude in-law's.  

Chantel:  If you are reading:  CUT YOUR LOSSES AND MOVE ON.  Next time be honest with your family form the get go.  Pedro's family will ALWAYS come first.  Always.  Before any children you have together because "that is my culture."  Fine, Pedro, move back to DR and eat out of the cauldron.  Pedro loves having his mom and sister licking his nuts while Chantel looks on.  Seriously, he does and that will NEVER change.  And Chantel: I am sorry about the sorry over divorce but you brought it on yourself.  And only made it worse in time.  Truth hurts but so will a lifetime of pain with this man and his unpleasant and rude family.

[Desert Rat]

1 hour ago, trimthatfat said:

Paola is basically being advertised to the highest bidders. I wouldn't be surprised if we find out 2-3 years down the line that she agreed to soft core porn to advance her career. She's playing a dangerous game in the name of becoming a model.

Honestly, I cannot get over the blatant disrespect of Pedro's grandma and I bet his family can't  either. That's where the true attack was coming from, imo. Pedro's mother wanted to bury the hatchet and move on, but Chantal's family couldn't. The fact that they didn't come out of the car to greet an elder probably meant they were dead to Pedro's family.

I think Chantal needs to go back to Spanish class. Pedro's sister didn't call her a bitch. She said the word period.

I don't fault Family Chantel for staying in the van.  It was pitch dark in the jungles of the DR.  They had reason the distrust Family Pedro having just been served chicken feet and necks that the hosts themselves refused to eat.  There were wild dogs roaming around and a large cauldron of something on an opp enough fire.  Hell no.  I don't trust them and I would not get out of the van.  

[brillia79]

12 minutes ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

Chantel:  If you are reading:  CUT YOUR LOSSES AND MOVE ON.  Next time be honest with your family form the get go.  Pedro's family will ALWAYS come first.  Always.  Before any children you have together because "that is my culture."  Fine, Pedro, move back to DR and eat out of the cauldron.  Pedro loves having his mom and sister licking his nuts while Chantel looks on.  Seriously, he does and that will NEVER change.  And Chantel: I am sorry about the sorry over divorce but you brought it on yourself.  And only made it worse in time.  Truth hurts but so will a lifetime of pain with this man and his unpleasant and rude family.

Some delicious food is probably being cooked in that pot, but the main point stands. Chantel and any kids that come along will always come in dead last where Pedro is concerned. His mom will make sure of that. Marrying a momma's boy is always a mistake. So is wasting your savings to bring over a husband you don't really know. She could have bought her own ring with that money... oh, wait.

She needs a divorce. Let Pedro find someone else to disrespect. Let him see how difficult it is to pay rent for his mother while he has to pay all of his own living expenses. Besides, I hear there's a lady in Sandusky, Ohio looking for a new guy.

[Mrs. Hanson]

10 minutes ago, brillia79 said:

Some delicious food is probably being cooked in that pot, but the main point stands. Chantel and any kids that come along will always come in dead last where Pedro is concerned. His mom will make sure of that. Marrying a momma's boy is always a mistake. So is wasting your savings to bring over a husband you don't really know. She could have bought her own ring with that money... oh, wait.

She needs a divorce. Let Pedro find someone else to disrespect. Let him see how difficult it is to pay rent for his mother while he has to pay all of his own living expenses. Besides, I hear there's a lady in Sandusky, Ohio looking for a new guy.

That last sentence made me laugh out loud and almost choke on my Diet Coke!!!  Yes I am sure the food in that pot is very yummy - and Pedro can eat all he wants and live in a hut with no running water and never have to worry about "I no feel comfortable with Chantel's family" ever again!  I fear Chantel is going down the road of Danielle - sir different reasons but the whole "I will be DAMNED if I admit this was a mistake" route.  I do not think Pedro had motives like Mo, I think he loves Chantel, he just loves his "culture and my family" more.  And he ain't changing, ever.

Chantel:  Divorce him and flt to DR and bone now and then!!  C'mon....look at all that money you will be saving by not having your accounts drained my his family!!!  

I am getting hitched in two months and thank goodness my man is not a mama's boy.  Loves her, respects her, nice healthy boundaries....yes life is good.

[bichonblitz]

5 hours ago, Mr. Minor said:

So, now Pao is networking at fake hooker parties a jacht clubs and music videos in New Yersey. Fucking Skank!

This is about the only caliber of modeling she's ever gonna do, just add escort to the mix!  That party was cringe worthy and the "models" were D list at the most. All the women out there dancing with themselves and where were the men? Off to the side taking notes on who they want to pay to spend the night, weekend or whatever with them? 

[John M]

17 minutes ago, SoshulMeedya said:

 if you wanted a nice conservative wife, why on earth did you marry PAO?

People don't change, for better or worse people are who they are and your choices are to accept that and decide to still be with that person flaws and all or move on. Pedro is always going to choose his family over Chantel, Anfisa will always choose money over Jorge, Mo will always choose having sex with anyone else but Danielle because the woman is dumb and crazy and really has no appealing physical or personal characteristics.

It's amazing how many people in relationships just refused to accept the plain truth right in front of them. None of these couples are going to work out and it's sad to see them drag these failed relationships out.

[Kellyee]

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Chantel and any kids that come along will always come in dead last where Pedro is concerned.

Pedro has messed up priorities, but Chantel is an entitled, spoiled, brat. Immature, and a huge pain in the ass. It's a toss up as to which of them is worse.

[brillia79]

11 minutes ago, Kellyee said:

Pedro has messed up priorities, but Chantel is an entitled, spoiled, brat. Immature, and a huge pain in the ass. It's a toss up as to which of them is worse.

I have no problem believing that entitled brat would take care of their kids. I have no reason to believe Pedro would do the same. Not when Nicole needs a new dress, laptop, tv, flat iron and rent.

That's how I choose to guess who is worse. I don't think it's entitled to expect that your husband participates emotionally and financially in your household. I do think it is entitled to ask your son/brother to put you before his wife in almost every way.

[chickenella]

1 hour ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

Pedro's family will ALWAYS come first.  Always.  Before any children you have together because "that is my culture."

Well, sorry to say but once Mother Pedro passes away, and if Pedro has a falling out with his sister, then Chantel will be first. That may take a long time. (and I'm predicting if Sister Pedro has any children, it will be expected that Pedro will be paying for formula, diapers, etc.)

I'm still wrapping my head around the argument between Chantel and mother & sister Pedro. They just sat there laughing when Chantel got so frustrated and walked away. Those two did NOTHING to convince Chantel that she was wrong about them using Pedro for money. Sister Pedro even said something like, "Where is she (Mom Pedro) suppose to live, under a bridge?" OMG, that's not Chantel and Pedro's problem! Mama Pedro has a job, sister should have a job (if she doesn't already) and should be able to provide for themselves. It's ok if Pedro sends things to them from time to time (not large TVs and computers, tho) but what he's doing now is like giving an allowance to a kid. I wonder how far that crap would fly is it was Sister Pedro's husband sending $$ to his mother.

Also, when Chantel said, "Did you just call me a bitch?" in regards to the Punto comment, Sister Pedro said Yes. Was there an error in Sister Pedro's translation? I know my Spanish isn't perfect but if someone accused me of calling them a bitch or Puta when I didn't, I'd be stressing to them that was  NOT what I said, instead of just sitting there agreeing.

One more thing, I noticed that Mother and Sister Pedro did not greet Chantel with a kiss or hug when meeting with her in the hotel, which is kind of cold. As far as I've experienced, its customary to greet loved ones with a kiss/hug in Spanish culture.

[MrSmith]

3 minutes ago, chickenella said:

Also, when Chantel said, "Did you just call me a bitch?" in regards to the Punto comment, Sister Pedro said Yes. Was there an error in Sister Pedro's translation? I know my Spanish isn't perfect but if someone accused me of calling them a bitch or Puta when I didn't, I'd be stressing to them that was  NOT what I said, instead of just sitting there agreeing.

I heard "punto", and I figured that SisterPedro just decided to say "yes" because she also thinks that about Chantel. So she probably figured that if Chantel misinterpreted or misheard her and Chantel believes/wants to believe that SisterPedro called her a bitch, then SisterPedro's just going to be like "Yep, that too!"

[Brooklynista]

7 minutes ago, chickenella said:

Well, sorry to say but once Mother Pedro passes away, and if Pedro has a falling out with his sister, then Chantel will be first. That may take a long time. (and I'm predicting if Sister Pedro has any children, it will be expected that Pedro will be paying for formula, diapers, etc.)

I'm still wrapping my head around the argument between Chantel and mother & sister Pedro. They just sat there laughing when Chantel got so frustrated and walked away. Those two did NOTHING to convince Chantel that she was wrong about them using Pedro for money. Sister Pedro even said something like, "Where is she (Mom Pedro) suppose to live, under a bridge?" OMG, that's not Chantel and Pedro's problem! Mama Pedro has a job, sister should have a job (if she doesn't already) and should be able to provide for themselves. It's ok if Pedro sends things to them from time to time (not large TVs and computers, tho) but what he's doing now is like giving an allowance to a kid. I wonder how far that crap would fly is it was Sister Pedro's husband sending $$ to his mother.

Also, when Chantel said, "Did you just call me a bitch?" in regards to the Punto comment, Sister Pedro said Yes. Was there an error in Sister Pedro's translation? I know my Spanish isn't perfect but if someone accused me of calling them a bitch or Puta when I didn't, I'd be stressing to them that was  NOT what I said, instead of just sitting there agreeing.

One more thing, I noticed that Mother and Sister Pedro did not greet Chantel with a kiss or hug when meeting with her in the hotel, which is kind of cold. As far as I've experienced, its customary to greet loved ones with a kiss/hug in Spanish culture.

Wait.  After Family Chantel had disrespected Abuela by not getting out of the car and calling them scammers who wanted to marry an American for money, they were supposed to greet Chantel with a hug and a kiss?? Not where I'm from.  Even if she was right, once you disrespect granny you're dead to me.

Edited August 7, 2017 by Brooklynista

[Pepper Mostly]

I seriously doubt that there is much love for Chantel among Pedro's family these days. Chantel's family did not greet Pedro either.

[Real Eyes]

2 hours ago, Kellyee said:

That supposed model networking event seemed to be 99% models, and very few hiring agents or important people. I really wonder if that whole event was staged for the show, or if Paola's agent is really that horrible at getting models jobs.

Also, Paola is a beautiful woman, but when you look at her next to the other models, she looks a little overweight and doesn't really stand out. She has a nice body, but not a model body. I think her best shot is those car races she was working before, and cheap music videos. She's not making the cover of Vogue. And how come Russ got a job so fast and yet Paola hasn't worked for MONTHS?

 

She's the Jessica Rabbit of models.

She is six axe handles across (her butt).  She'll be able to do music videos if she keeps her weight down, but not for long, given her age.

[Desert Rat]

Translation: "Spicy Latina" = skanky slut 

[trimthatfat]

2 hours ago, Desert Rat said:

I don't fault Family Chantel for staying in the van.  It was pitch dark in the jungles of the DR.  They had reason the distrust Family Pedro having just been served chicken feet and necks that the hosts themselves refused to eat.  There were wild dogs roaming around and a large cauldron of something on an opp enough fire.  Hell no.  I don't trust them and I would not get out of the van.  

I'm not buying it. They were ignorant and disrespectful and I don't think fear of the darkness had anything to do with it. Dogs wander in the country, it happens. They do not attack. And cauldron? Quite a few homes in DR are not equipped with stoves so food is prepared over an open fire outside as that is often the only option. 

Their behavior was appalling. I'm extremely offended and I don't even know Pedro. I just find it really annoying when people see something different than the 1st world amenities that they are used to and look down on others because of it. That's exactly what I see with Family Chantal.  

Edited August 7, 2017 by trimthatfat

[Desert Rat]

1 hour ago, bichonblitz said:

This is about the only caliber of modeling she's ever gonna do, just add escort to the mix!  That party was cringe worthy and the "models" were D list at the most. All the women out there dancing with themselves and where were the men? Off to the side taking notes on who they want to pay to spend the night, weekend or whatever with them? 

Where were all the millionaires and billionaires?

[Mrs. Hanson]

1 hour ago, SoshulMeedya said:

If I hear Pao say "my career" one more time, I will choke. YOU HAVE NO CAREER, PAO!

Can I agree to the tenth degree?  She has no career, no nothing.  Russ, you wanted a beautiful wife.  I have been through OK and there are LOTS of beautiful women.  Like a lot.  You could have had one with values like you who would be happy, if not prefer, to stay in OK.  But now.....yikes.  

Russ had the career, Russ had the house, Russ had the stability......and again....now.....yikes.

Per Pedro:  He reminds me of an co-worker who was 100% Italian, brought up with Italian traditions. She told me, "If you marry an Italian man you will always be third, after the Virgin Mary and his mother!"  LOL!

Edited August 7, 2017 by Mrs. Hanson

[Pepper Mostly]

1 minute ago, trimthatfat said:

I'm not buying it. They were ignorant and disrespectful and I don't think fear of the darkness had anything to do with it. Dogs wander in the country, it happens. They do not attack. And cauldron? A lot of homes in DR are not equipped with stoves so food is prepared over an open fire outside as that is often the only option.

Their behavior was appalling. I'm offended and I don't even know Pedro. I just find it really annoying when people see something different than the 1st world amenities that they are used to and look down on others because of it. That's exactly what I see with Family Chantal.    

I agree 100% Papa Chantel was bleating about "packs of wild dogs", meanwhile in the foreground there is one depressed looking mangy old mutt wandering around. Militias? Please. And the famous "cauldron". Guess Pedro's abuela should have run down to Home Depot and bought a stove to ensure the comfort of Chantel's rude, classist family. I'm guessing Family Chantel loves an ex of Chantel's (who still stops by sometimes to take Mama Chantel to the hairdresser or to the mall! and goes fishing with Dad and plays hoops with River! Why they just saw him at church last Sunday and he's doing so well in dental school!) and they would far prefer him to the poor, unwashed, voodoo practicing Hispanic guy she chose. Pedro is an embarrassment to them and does nothing to enhance their status. Chantel also despises her husband and her in-laws. There's a lot of talk here about Pedro being a mama's boy but what about Chantel? She is allowing her parents to drive a wedge between her and her husband, she does not defend him. She believes he is a liar and a con artist. She believes his mother is controlling him. She should look up "projection" in the dictionary.

[Palomar]

As far as the whole 2nd "wedding" for Chantal and Pedro goes, I imagine it was the idea of producers (and being paid for by TLC along with the whole trip).  I can't imagine Pedro's family paying for it or even caring about being part of a wedding at all.  I do however think that Pedro's sister is loving the cameras (and perhaps the mother to a lesser extent) and definitely using her very brief platform. I'm sure the chicken feet thing partly went down because of the cameras too.

Chantal and Pedro need to agree on a certain amount to send back home and stick with it...an amount they both can live with (even though I don't blame Chantal for not wanting to support his ungrateful sister no matter what the "culture" is.   If it is an unstated amount that is open ended, this will never be resolved.

[Desert Rat]

7 minutes ago, trimthatfat said:

I'm not buying it. They were ignorant and disrespectful and I don't think fear of the darkness had anything to do with it. Dogs wander in the country, it happens. They do not attack. And cauldron? Quite a few homes in DR are not equipped with stoves so food is prepared over an open fire outside as that is often the only option. 

Their behavior was appalling. I'm extremely offended and I don't even know Pedro. I just find it really annoying when people see something different than the 1st world amenities that they are used to and look down on others because of it. That's exactly what I see with Family Chantal.  

I'm looking at the events leading up to the visit at grandma's. The situation would have been very different if Family Pedro had greeted them warmly at the airport rather than demanding a huge color tv.  Or if they had not served disgusting food that they themselves would not eat.  No, I think Family Chantel had reason to be suspicious of what might be boiling in the cauldron.  And, no one greeted them at the van.  Family Pedro are rude, nasty, racist people, and it has nothing to do with being poor.  Like one poster said, Family Pedro would probably behave differently if Chantel was white not black. 

[John M]

6 minutes ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

Can I agree to the tenth degree?  She has no career, no nothing.  Russ, you wanted a beautiful wife.  I have been through OK and there are LOTS of beautiful women.  Like a lot.  You could have had one with values like you who would be happy, if not prefer, to stay in OK.  But now.....yikes.  

Russ had the career, Russ had the house, Russ had the stability......and again....now.....yikes.

I just want to know what the hell is wrong with Russ, I mean personal preference but I think he is a really attractive guy and doesn't seem crazy or weird, I wouldn't think he would have any problems finding an attractive woman with her shit together to date/marry.

[Mrs. Hanson]

Just now, John M said:

I just want to know what the hell is wrong with Russ, I mean personal preference but I think he is a really attractive guy and doesn't seem crazy or weird, I wouldn't think he would have any problems finding an attractive woman with her shit together to date/marry.

I agree.  He is the most attractive/stable American on this show.  He is level headed, kind, stable, EMPLOYED, a home owner.....WTF?  It is easy to say younger women like a flashy hot shot guy....well I am 52 (a youthful 52 if I say so!) but heck back in the go get 'em 80's my outlook was:  "Stable?  Home at night? Nice car that runs?  Employed?  Where do I sign?"  LOL!  And I was 23, 24 back then!!!  Most of my friends were the same way.  We liked to go out dancing and attend concerts but it wasn't a daily, even weekly thing.

[Desert Rat]

1 minute ago, John M said:

I just want to know what the hell is wrong with Russ, I mean personal preference but I think he is a really attractive guy and doesn't seem crazy or weird, I wouldn't think he would have any problems finding an attractive woman with her shit together to date/marry.

Crazy right?  Russ seems to be one of the most normal, educated, has his act together person in this entire series, and yet he's putting up with Pao and get so called career. I guess Russ doesn't know how to cut his losses and move on. 

[trimthatfat]

13 minutes ago, Desert Rat said:

I'm looking at the events leading up to the visit at grandma's. The situation would have been very different if Family Pedro had greeted them warmly at the airport rather than demanding a huge color tv.  Or if they had not served disgusting food that they themselves would not eat.  No, I think Family Chantel had reason to be suspicious of what might be boiling in the cauldron.  And, no one greeted them at the van.  Family Pedro are rude, nasty, racist people, and it has nothing to do with being poor.  Like one poster said, Family Pedro would probably behave differently if Chantel was white not black. 

I am going to agree to disagree because we won't really see eye to eye on this. Before Pedro's mother even appeared on this show Family Chantal was incredibly rude. No one even did anything to them at that point, but they were making baseless and disrespectful accusations. In fact, it was Pedro begging Chantal to be honest with her family because he didn't want her lying about what was happening. She continued to lie and who got punished for that? Pedro. Chantal's family has been disrespectful for over a year at this point.

Anyway, I maintain that it's ignorant to assume that Pedro's grandma had nefarious intentions because she was preparing food outside.

My final point - if Pedro's family is racist (which I don't believe they are and I am saying that as Haitian woman who has dealt with racist people from DR), Chantal's comes off as classist and xenophobic. That's certainly not any better. 

Side note- I grew up in a culture where people eat  chicken feet and necks. It may not be for everyone, but they are not 'disgusting'.

Edited August 7, 2017 by trimthatfat

[sleepyjean]

34 minutes ago, Brooklynista said:

Wait.  After Family Chantel had disrespected Abuela by not getting out of the car and calling them scammers who wanted to marry an American for money, they were supposed to greet Chantel with a hug and a kiss?? Not where I'm from.  Even if she was right, once you disrespect granny you're dead to me.

Of course.  And after Mr thomas sat Pedro down and said Pedro's mom was a big user and chantelle was much better off before Pedro came along, the next time pedro saw them (at resort checkin) he was supposed to greet them and be cordial. Mr thomas thinks he should be treated with respect no matter what insults he's been dishing out. 

It was so interesting that family chantel interpreted that as fear. That sir was the silent treatment. Mature? No. Justified? Yes. Especially when the alternative is a knuckle sandwich.

[Pepper Mostly]

13 minutes ago, trimthatfat said:

I grew up in a culture where people eat  chicken feet and necks. It may not be for everyone, but they are not 'disgusting'.

Agreed. I live in an area with a sizable Dominican population. Chicken feet are regularly on offer at the local grocery stores.

[Mrs. Hanson]

14 minutes ago, trimthatfat said:

My final point - if Pedro's family is racist (which I don't believe they are and I am saying that as Haitian woman who has dealt with racist people from DR), Chantal's comes off as classist and xenophobic. That's certainly not any better. 

Side note- I grew up in a culture where people eat  chicken feet and necks. It may not be for everyone, but they are not 'disgusting'.

I agree that Pedro's family is not racist but some are entitled.  I do not think there was anything nefarious in that pot either.  A pack of "wild dogs"?....no just a mutt.  A militia?  Try again.  Chantel's family is a piece of work on their own.  

trimthatfat - I grew up with a mom who ate pickled pig's feet.  Not my cup of cocoa but hey she loved them!

Edited August 7, 2017 by Mrs. Hanson

[Desert Rat]

Maybe we are being played be Family Chantel and Family Pedro? Maybe all this drama is just too keep the TV checks rolling in.  Think about it. Did Family Chantel go all the way to the DR to diss Pedro and Family?  Why the immediate demands for the gifts and tv? Why the disgusting food?  Why the racist attitudes?  Why are there no kind words, only accusations and name calling?  Yet, there are still planning a waterfront wedding. Why? Because tv.  No drama, no check.  These families both get the TV game. If the families are mostly loving and drama free, al la Loren and Alex, people get bored and no tv.  Just a theory, but there are recent pictures of Pedro and Family Chantel that show very different relationships then depicted on this show.  

[brillia79]

12 minutes ago, trimthatfat said:

Anyway, I maintain that it's ignorant to assume that Pedro's grandma had nefarious intentions because she was preparing food outside.

Agreed. Americans have whole holidays built around cooking outdoors. That and the voodoo thing were extremely ignorant.

What is not ignorant is not wanting to take food from someone who tried to pull an okey-doke earlier. That would be Pedro's mom and sister serving chicken feet-something they admittedly don't eat themselves. And don't think it went unnoticed that Pedro was in on the gag. He was totally lying about his love of chicken feet.

You fuck with my food once, you lose my trust for good.

[Mrs. Hanson]

Just now, brillia79 said:

Agreed. Americans have whole holidays built around cooking outdoors. That and the voodoo thing were extremely ignorant.

What is not ignorant is not wanting to take food from someone who tried to pull an okey-doke earlier. That would be Pedro's mom and sister serving chicken feet-something they admittedly don't eat themselves. And don't think it went unnoticed that Pedro was in on the gag. He was totally lying about his love of chicken feet.

You fuck with my food once, you lose my trust for good.

My final and last thought on the whole chicken feet:  Serve away but please serve something else that everyone likes, like cheese, crackers, fruit, etc....would that be so hard?  Another DR appetizer that is not considered "out there"?  But the way it was edited (and edited is the key word) is "Here you selfish Americans!  Choke this stuff down while we smirk away!"  

[Adeejay]

After that chicken feet and neck incident, Family Chantel would be fools to eat anything Family Pedro prepared for them.   Based on Nicole’s attitude towards Chantel, it's a good thing she resembles her brother; otherwise I would swear that was her man. 

[trimthatfat]

I might need to rewatch, but I could have sworn Pedro's family had about 5 other dishes on the table for the dinner.

[CofCinci]

Family Chantel and Family Pedro are both assholes.  They've ruined any chances for Chantel and Pedro to have a happy life -- but it is for the best because I believe he only picked her because of the large inheritance she receives soon. 

[Desert Rat]

2 minutes ago, trimthatfat said:

I might need to rewatch, but I could have sworn Pedro's family had about 5 other dishes on the table for the dinner.

They did, but they didn't put out the other dishes until Family Chantel left.  The good stuff was never offered to Family Chantel.  This smacks of racism IMO, which would be more obvious if Family Pedro were white.  But racism nonetheless.  OTO, maybe all this was staged for TLC cameras.  Fake drama?

[iwasish]

On ‎7‎/‎31‎/‎2017 at 5:12 AM, NotEatingKale said:

Anyone watch Teen Mom OG? The above is a pretty accurate description of 50% of the show. 

Hence the title ... Teen Mom.

[John M]

6 hours ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

I agree.  He is the most attractive/stable American on this show.  He is level headed, kind, stable, EMPLOYED, a home owner.....WTF?  It is easy to say younger women like a flashy hot shot guy....well I am 52 (a youthful 52 if I say so!) but heck back in the go get 'em 80's my outlook was:  "Stable?  Home at night? Nice car that runs?  Employed?  Where do I sign?"  LOL!  And I was 23, 24 back then!!!  Most of my friends were the same way.  We liked to go out dancing and attend concerts but it wasn't a daily, even weekly thing.

My partner is almost 10 years older than me (Mid 30s/Mid 40s) and for a while he was really self-conscious about the age difference and wondering why I wanted to be with someone as old as he is. I mean my first answer is because I love him and we have so many shared interests and similar (dark) senses of humor and the age difference is not THAT big, I mean it's not ideal but what relationship ever is.

But my second answer is why wouldn't I want to be? He has a good job, owns a house, has very little debt, generally has his shit together, is kind, I'm just lucky he was still on the market when I snatched him. Single guys: You may not have all your hair, or the best body, or the six figure income but never underestimate they sexiness of just having your shit together. Anyone that you should want to date is going to find it to be a huge turn on.

Edited August 8, 2017 by John M

[nlkm9]

the only vacation bed buddy that ever worked on this franchise was melanie and devar, because melanie had a good job and was willing to travel and leave her unbelievably cool son with his Dad as often as possible.  Chantal had a great vacation hookup and beyond great sex there is nothing.

55 minutes ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

I agree that Pedro's family is not racist but some are entitled.  I do not think there was anything nefarious in that pot either.  A pack of "wild dogs"?....no just a mutt.  A militia?  Try again.  Chantel's family is a piece of work on their own.  

trimthatfat - I grew up with a mom who ate pickled pig's feet.  Not my cup of cocoa but hey she loved them!

its not what they eat or dont eat, its giving them something that THEY dont eat and not sitting down with them. 

[seacliffsal]

Interesting that at the big models' party, Pao looked really uncomfortable to me and seemed to only want to hang around the other "models."  I think she wants this big career, but expects it to be handed to her.  That's why she wants to do the video-they reached out to her, which feeds her ego.  See- they found me online and I was so beautiful they want to hire me...  That seems to be her dream-that she be in demand and people seek her out.  She is very, very fortunate that TLC is filming her "career"; otherwise I think she really would be taken advantage of as she so wants to believe that she will have this big career that she may be willing to do anything to get it.

Oh it tickled me to discover that all of Jorge's gifts were from the consignment shop.  Not only does he not deliver on all he promised to Anfisa, but the gifts that he did buy her were all used.  She will have a fit after watching this.  By the way, I think consignment shopping is really, really smart-the dig on it is that Jorge probably told her these were all new, etc.  I hope they filmed her reaction when she found out the truth...

[Guest]

I laugh that taking care of mothers is such a big part of DR culture, while Pedro's mom certainly isn't taking care of Grandma.

[Mrs. Hanson]

1 hour ago, John M said:

Single guys: You may not have all your hair, or the best body, or the six figure income but never underestimate they sexiness of just having your shit together. Anyone that you should want to date is going to find it to be a huge turn on.

Can I get an amen?  My man and I knew each other as kids, went through school together and knew each other as young adults.  Lost touch, got back in touch via Facebook after I was divorced.  He had never married, no kids.  Surprised he was still on the market as well!  No six figure income but owns his own home, interesting and close friends, nice family and likes to go to sleep at 10pm each night.  What a catch!  The kicker?  He makes me laugh till I cry.  And he is great to my kids.  Listen up men!!! 

[ChiCricket]

20 hours ago, SoshulMeedya said:

I think there was a slap heard a cross the US when Mother and Sister Pedro were cackling and being complete $@#%.

Here's the thing about the end of that conversation. I speak pretty fluent Spanish, and I replayed it several times, and asked my Puerto Rican husband's view of what was said.

    We both agree that Pedro's mom said (paraphrased) " if you don't believe in Pedro (and his family), then divorce him, let him go!"

Then the (bratty) sister said" YES! Divorce him....PERIOD!"

  I *think* "en punto" = "period."

  I think Chantal *thought* the sister called her "una puta" (a whore), and when she asked the sister if she called her that, in the heat of the moment, she said "yeah, I DID call you that!" (even though she really didn't.)

But I think both families behaved like ASSES ...especially Chantal's brother, and Pedro's sister..both entitled little shits , imho. 

Edited August 7, 2017 by ChiCricket
'Cuz

[Gigglepuff]

I just think that Chantel, Pedro, and their respective families are all horrid people. Chantel's family are snobs, Chantel is a brat, Pedro will never put her first, his family is sketchy. Good for them all for finding one another in this life. They all truly deserve each other. Same goes for Jorge and Anfisa. I do think that Loren and Alexi do love each other. Loren is annoying, but hey, I'm not the one that has to live with her. Alexi is blunt. I kind of can oversee that only because I know several people from the Ukraine and they tend not to mince words. I guess it's a cultural thing. Loren loves him though, and his mother is a sweetheart, so that's good. I feel bad for Russ to a certain degree. He wanted a sexy wife, well, now he has one. Pao is a scammer. I don't know how he can't see that. Dani and Mo? Two grifters that found each other. I have no sympathy for either one of them. 

[Mrs. Hanson]

5 minutes ago, Gigglepuff said:

I just think that Chantel, Pedro, and their respective families are all horrid people. Chantel's family are snobs, Chantel is a brat, Pedro will never put her first, his family is sketchy. Good for them all for finding one another in this life. They all truly deserve each other. Same goes for Jorge and Anfisa. I do think that Loren and Alexi do love each other. Loren is annoying, but hey, I'm not the one that has to live with her. Alexi is blunt. I kind of can oversee that only because I know several people from the Ukraine and they tend not to mince words. I guess it's a cultural thing. Loren loves him though, and his mother is a sweetheart, so that's good. I feel bad for Russ to a certain degree. He wanted a sexy wife, well, now he has one. Pao is a scammer. I don't know how he can't see that. Dani and Mo? Two grifters that found each other. I have no sympathy for either one of them. 

Yes yes and more yes.  Alexi looks at Loren with love in his eyes, and that is really special.  You are spot on with everything else in this post.  Thank you!

[Quilty]

10 hours ago, Mr. Minor said:

So, now Pao is networking at fake hooker parties a jacht clubs and music videos in New Yersey. Fucking Skank!

Chantel cut your losses and leave dumbass Pedro in the DR. Family Chantel should cut-off Chantel if she don't leave him there. 

How coked up were the hooker/models at that jacht club party? Pao's agent was dragging her all over the place and everyone was hyper excited!

[ChiCricket]

On 7/31/2017 at 0:06 AM, Matias130 said:

I also did not realize Jorge was Hispanic. It appears like his mother does not speak English, so how does his Spanish seem so bad ?

This has been bugging me too! Maybe he wasn't raised by his mom, or something? That's all I've got. 

[checker]

4 hours ago, John M said:

People don't change, for better or worse people are who they are and your choices are to accept that and decide to still be with that person flaws and all or move on.

...

It's amazing how many people in relationships just refused to accept the plain truth right in front of them. None of these couples are going to work out and it's sad to see them drag these failed relationships out.

Ugh, don't remind me, I learned the hard way.  Good thing is, once burned twice shy.  You can't change them, only you can change yourself. 

I understand how it's so hard for them to give up hope on their relationships. 

[Mindthinkr]

On 8/6/2017 at 6:01 PM, Former Nun said:

They grant only AA, but some community colleges do grant a full RN (Registered Nurse) degree within the two years.  

You can get an Associates in Applied Science which makes you eligible to sit for the state License board exam. In order to obtain the RN you need to pass the test which is usually given in 4 parts over the course of 2 days. They will fingerprint you during each part (to make sure the same person is taking all 4 parts and to make sure that you have a clean record and are who you say you are). Some states offer reciprocity. Meaning if you pass in NY many states will accept those results so that you don't have to retake the test if you move. Not all states however, accept this. 

[bichonblitz]

I think Pao believes she's the next Sophia Vergara. Too little, too late, honey. Sophia was modeling in her late teens, early 20's. I think Sophia is also from Colombia.  I wish Russ would just tell PaoPao she's too old to start this now. That would really burst her big, inflated ego, wouldn't it?!!