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20 minutes ago, JudyObscure said:

Oh that was fun! 

For those of you who didn't make it all the way to #49.  It seems Tanner tweeted ( or instagramed or something) to Demi that what she did to Derek was the same thing Jed did to Hannah B.  (What most of us have been saying.)  Demi got all mad and told Tanner she could give him lessons on "going down on your wife."  Ah Demi, Chris Harrison's favorite little girl.

Chris Harrison has some interesting favorites. 

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On 8/17/2019 at 1:45 AM, Quiet1 said:

No idea why you quoted me. I never said anything about Jed's girlfriend knowing if he was going on the show or not. I was alluding to Jed's ex said he lied to her (not about the show). Maybe Demi's girlfriend will do an interview & say that Demi lied to her too. I will see how it plays out & how much Demi is like Jed. I have a feeling Demi's girlfriend is not blindsided like Jed's ex was and that production is very aware of her relationship.

I quoted you for the sake of conversation. We tend to do that around here. You were referring to a music career so it was obvious you were talking about Jed and I added that Jed’s girlfriend knew he was going on the show and should have been ready for what was to come. Demi did the same thing. I don’t like Jed or Demi. They both did something wrong and if the girlfriends were in on it, they were wrong too. The only difference is that Demi did this with the blessing of the entire production team and Chris Harrison, so of course she’s a hero, while Jed is a villain. 

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1 hour ago, Wandering Snark said:

She is so classy...

Maybe that's why I'm so bothered by the praise she is getting for coming out, being her true self, and all that. 

We saw who she was when she and Jordan were sitting around making fun of the others - too old, the wrong clothes/shoes/hair, walking funny.   Yeah, it's so brave to "be yourself" except if yourself is mean and nasty, remember that everyone else is just "being themselves", so shut up, Demi!  

She's not a nice person.   And that has NOTHING to do with her sexual orientation.   

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1 hour ago, alexa said:

Yup. This is why things are going to get worse for these franchises. Colton, Hannah B, and now this have high ratings. In interviews Chris Harrison says it’s because of how compelling Colton (virgin, professional football player, good looking), Hannah (strong, independent, gorgeous woman), BIP (Demi’s brave storyline) storylines are. I suggest turning the TV off, because unless the ratings go down they’re not going to change anything. 

(Note: i in no way agree with Chris Harrison’s assessments. But I can’t argue the numbers. As long as the ratings are high Harrison will push whatever narrative he wants). 

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16 hours ago, Nowhere said:

I quoted you for the sake of conversation. We tend to do that around here. You were referring to a music career so it was obvious you were talking about Jed and I added that Jed’s girlfriend knew he was going on the show and should have been ready for what was to come. Demi did the same thing. I don’t like Jed or Demi. They both did something wrong and if the girlfriends were in on it, they were wrong too. The only difference is that Demi did this with the blessing of the entire production team and Chris Harrison, so of course she’s a hero, while Jed is a villain. 

Exactly Just as I said.

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I  just listened to Demi on Ali and Rachel's podcast. Did I miss something....did she find a cure for cancer?? They used the words champion, warrior, trailblazer, hero. Seriously? I think there is an unspoken rule within Bachelor Nation that everyone is going to go all out to support Demi and no one wants to appear homophobic. Good for Demi if Kristian is her soulmate. I hope they are happy. I know a lot of gay people.... I have been friends with gay people long before it was common. But I will be the first to say....this fiasco is ridiculous.

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7 minutes ago, nutty1 said:

I  just listened to Demi on Ali and Rachel's podcast. Did I miss something....did she find a cure for cancer?? They used the words champion, warrior, trailblazer, hero. Seriously? I think there is an unspoken rule within Bachelor Nation that everyone is going to go all out to support Demi and no one wants to appear homophobic. Good for Demi if Kristian is her soulmate. I hope they are happy. I know a lot of gay people.... I have been friends with gay people long before it was common. But I will be the first to say....this fiasco is ridiculous.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bachelor-party/id1330224581?i=1000447579947

it seems to be everywhere. I really like Juliet Litman, but she seems to have blinders on for Demi. I realize the significance and struggles a bi or homosexual person would have coming out on one of these shows. However, I don’t trust this particular “messenger” at all. She’s always appeared fake, self-serving, attention-seeking and the biggest hypocrite/bully in whatever crowd she’s in. I think she’s doing all of this for the show and will move on to something else when people get bored with her. I don’t get why so few people are willing to see what’s happening here. Juliet is particularly egregious because she calls out Derek for being fake, but calls Demi brave???  

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2 hours ago, Jillibean said:

Demi was out of line, but Tanner is so detestable that he deserves whatever he gets.

36 minutes ago, thehepburn said:

TMI, but then again, who is surprised that this abusive douchebag refuses to go down on his wife?

Ok I don't follow Tanner so I'm clueless. Why is he detestable and a douchebag?

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I think it is good that the franchise is wanting to do a non-hetro storyline, I just think they picked the wrong person to go with. Demi just comes across as too fake, too "made for TV", too much a "personality" to the point that it is hard for viewers who don't just take the show at face value to know if this is even real. Since it's clear that parts of it like the "surprise" arrival of the GF are fake, it's hard not to wonder if all of it is fake. 

I think they needed someone more grounded for this story to not feel like a cheap ploy but I guess they had to go with what they had. lol 

I do wish them the best. I think most of Demi's issues come from her being young and having had a crappy upbringing. Maybe a stable relationship with a mommy replacement is what she needs to grow up. 

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29 minutes ago, TiredMe said:

Ok I don't follow Tanner so I'm clueless. Why is he detestable and a douchebag?

I dont follow him either but google "Tanner jade Marriage boot camp" and u will get the gist of it.

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57 minutes ago, thehepburn said:

I dont follow him either but google "Tanner jade Marriage boot camp" and u will get the gist of it.

Those shows are so scripted.  Though truthfully, I did not watch it. Tanner and Jade seem happy, though I only see pictures and tweets and such. 

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7 minutes ago, nutty1 said:

Those shows are so scripted.  Though truthfully, I did not watch it. Tanner and Jade seem happy, though I only see pictures and tweets and such. 

Their 'script' was tailored just for them. Many other BN couples did the show and none of them showed such a trouble marriage

Tanner also block you if u mention that show bc the truth hurts

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It’s not just the actual words that came out of Tanner’s mouth, it’s how he said them and how he reacted to Jade. You can’t script things like that. He was constantly dripping with contempt for her. If someone hands you a script telling you to call your wife a bitch, you have the choice not to adhere to that. But Jade said he called her that all the time, not just on the show. He literally told her she was worthless as a wife. And PLENTY of people have been on that show without verbally abusing their wives. There was one point where Tanner was telling a story about finding out his mom cheated (or something like that) and Jade empathetically said that while she loved Tanner’s mom, what happened wasn’t fair to young Tanner. Tanner’s immediate response was to snap back that Jade’s mother sucks also. 

Then there was also the incident of their first child. Tanner was open about the fact that he wanted a boy and even made Jade do all those wive’s tale things so they would have s boy. (They didn’t). From the delivery room, he instagrammed Jade begging him to take his McDonald’s outside because it was making her sick while he laughed and waved it around at her.

While I don’t listen to her podcast, my understanding is that sometimes the things Jade says about the way Tanner behaves are concerning to the point that others feel compelled to stop and further discuss it with her. 

And as for Demi’s comment? Jade has openly stated that Tanner won’t do that. So there you go. Anyone can look happy and in love in instagram pictures. I even think Jade genuinely loves him. I just also think it’s because she doesn’t know any better and that if she had any idea of her own self worth she wouldn’t be with someone who so willingly and casually awful to her with the cameras ON.

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I've sometimes wondered what Jade ever saw in Tanner, because all I saw was an average looking, not particularly smart or funny used car salesman. And that was before reading the comments here. Jade seems like such a sweet-natured person, and I'm so sad for her that she is allowing herself to be verbally abused. Even worse, their children will grow up thinking that this is how a man should treat a woman.

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Jade and Tanner's children will be able to go online, see Mom's porn pictures  and read all the intimate details of their parents' sex lives. They've both set their children up  to be the  laughing stock of their school.

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