S07.E02: The Buddha Bentley Birthday

[tenativelyyours]

1 hour ago, njbchlover said:

No pass on the dress from me, when she snarkily commented in her talking head that it just walked down the Moschino runway.  This woman has a HUGH thing for label/name dropping.  (Even when she mentioned the Chanel makeup bag she gave to Dorit).

As far as being throwing up for two days - first thing I thought was maybe she was pregnant!   

 

I know Moschino has some appeal but it also has the tagline in the fashion industry of -  Moshino: Apparently Italian for Hot Mess.  The stuff is a three second hot trend and derivative as hell in terms of being cutting edge and the best thing out of it this last season was bringing Miro Cech back to the runway. and showing us how bad Giggle-less Hadid still walks, her brother is never going to be a model and Matthew Noszka might be a big enough flavor of the day to score an appearance on Ellen, but his runway presence is even worse than the Hadid publicity wonders. 

Erika looks so vapid and simple (not in a good way) to me with things like this with the tee shirt dress.  She is still the sixteen year old running to buy the latest brand new display in the front of Hot Topic.  She is following nothing but gone in a moment trends when her claim to fame should be having her make them.  It screams "old" at a much younger age than she is.  That clinging to "youth" with knuckles so white they could sit in on the McCain Family Christmas picture. 

I think Vanderpump has plenty of fucks to give when it comes to Eileen.  That was rather rehearsed to me.  I think she has no fucks to give about going in on Eileen.  But no fucks at all?  Vanderpump gives more fucks than the sex slave parlors of Bangkok.   Grudges and digs.  Her skin isn't as thin as the recently elected 45th President but she simmers with resentment like a netty pot forgotten on an Aga.  And she made sure to add to a feud that should have been let go a long time a long time though that was so much more on Eileen.  I want them both to go to a different corner and stop acting so petty and stupid.  Better yet removed one or both.  Not going to happen but still.  Christmas had miracles still doesn't it?

[WireWrap]

1 minute ago, sasha206 said:

I normally like Erika's style for the most part but the t-shir dress wasn't even cute.  Wonder how much she paid for that dress that just came off the runway?  I'm sure the designers are laughing their collective asses off that women will pay a huge amount of money for something that looks ready-to-wear from the Walmar clearance bin simply because it has a designer name.

Also, who comes to a party, kiss greets everyone when they have been throwing up for 2 days? Is Erika that desperate she couldn't miss being on camera so exposed everyone to her germs? On top of that, she knows that Dorit/PK have 2 small kids, 1 of them only 4 months old but goes anyway!

[sasha206]

16 minutes ago, WireWrap said:

What was with Rinna on WWHL tonight? Is her makeup/hair person mad at her? Her hair looked awful and her makeup even worse! She looked as sweaty as Sheree's Bob on the Atl. HWs/as greasy as Vince and her hair looked brittle, like it would snap in half if she touched it!

OMG, yes.  Her face looked like it was about to melt off of her.  The fillers were overdone and looks like someone smeared butter on her and broiled her.

[sasha206]

Dorit's accent reminds me of another non-Brit, Donna Dixon.  

 

Donna Dixon, Virginian and her fake accent.

[WireWrap]

14 minutes ago, sasha206 said:

OMG, yes.  Her face looked like it was about to melt off of her.  The fillers were overdone and looks like someone smeared butter on her and broiled her.

I had to laugh when Andy/viewer asked her if she messed/plumped up her upper lip again, her reply was "No but you know how they go up and down"! Right, upper lips are know for changing size on their own! LOL, LOL  Own it Rinna, just admit you had you lips injected with filler again!

[AuntiePam]

1 hour ago, ihartcoffee said:

It was zucchini pasta I think.  Plus,  did you see the tiny plates,  lol. 

On another note,  Erika got a pass on the dress when she said she'd been sick with a bug.  For me at least.  

Me too, because a "stomach bug" doesn't always mean nausea.  Wear something comfortable so if you need a quick trip to the loo, you don't have to struggle with a tight dress. 

I think I'll take this off the DVR.  Feels like I know these women too well -- it's the same old same old -- and the conspicuous consumption is starting to get to me.  I'm just not in the mood for fabulous excess.  I'll keep reading here though, so I'll know if it gets better. 

On a totally shallow note: Lisa R's daughters aren't runway material.  Do they really want to do it or is Lisa R pushing it on them? 

[CrinkleCutCat]

PK and Dorito (!) sure highlight the coldness of the Tom and Erika relationship arrangement, don't they? It makes me feel sorry for Erika.... I don't feel she's as happy as she projects.

[breezy424]

I think LVP played her remarks as being humorous but the truth is that they were biting and mean spirited.  There was no reason for LVP to make her remark about Vinnie.

Erika Jane's audition for the dancers was sooooo boring.  Like we're supposed to be impressed by EJ's stardom in the music industry.  Yawn.

What the heck color was that Roll's or whatever it was?

God, Eileen looks fantastic.  Girl is inching toward sixty and is batting it out of the park.

[twilightzone]

2 hours ago, nexxie said:

LVP just can't stand that Eileen sees the nasty insecure woman beneath that fluffy pink facade!

LVP knows she can't manipulate ED.  There's also jealousy.  LVP is a failed wannabe actress while ED has won an Emmy.  And there is NO contest between Vincent Van Patten and old geezer Ken Todd.

ED is only a year older, but LVP looks so much more haggard.

Edited December 14, 2016 by twilightzone

[WireWrap]

7 minutes ago, AuntiePam said:

Me too, because a "stomach bug" doesn't always mean nausea.  Wear something comfortable so if you need a quick trip to the loo, you don't have to struggle with a tight dress. 

I think I'll take this off the DVR.  Feels like I know these women too well -- it's the same old same old -- and the conspicuous consumption is starting to get to me.  I'm just not in the mood for fabulous excess.  I'll keep reading here though, so I'll know if it gets better. 

On a totally shallow note: Lisa R's daughters aren't runway material.  Do they really want to do it or is Lisa R pushing it on them? 

Erika said she was vomiting for 2 days, so........ LOL

Interesting that Rinna makes nice with Yolanda and helps her/Eileen go after Lisa and now all of a sudden 1 of her daughters are signed with a prestigious modeling agency! I'm not saying Yolanda made it happen but the timing sure is suspicious! LOL

2 minutes ago, breezy424 said:

I think LVP played her remarks as being humorous but the truth is that they were biting and mean spirited.  There was no reason for LVP to make her remark about Vinnie.

Erika Jane's audition for the dancers was sooooo boring.  Like we're supposed to be impressed by EJ's stardom in the music industry.  Yawn.

What the heck color was that Roll's or whatever it was?

God, Eileen looks fantastic.  Girl is inching toward sixty and is batting it out of the park.

I got why Lisa made that comment but I agree is wasn't nice at all.

The Rolls was rose gold

[WireWrap]

3 minutes ago, twilightzone said:

LVP knows she can't manipulate ED.  There's also jealousy.  LVP never got her acting career off the ground.  ED is an Emmy award winning actress.  And there is NO contest between Vincent Van Patten and old geezer Ken Todd, lol.

ED is only a year older, but LVP looks so much more haggard.

I don't think Lisa is jealous of Eileen's acting career nor of greasy/unwashed Vince.

That said, Eileen does look younger than Lisa when Lisa is all dolled up. When Lisa is in casual clothes, hair up and no/little makeup, she looks better than Eileen.

[Michichick]

Vanderpump looks terrible this season. Looks like an old woman trying to look young but making herself look older in the process. And she's sure clutching hard at her queen bee status. She should stop trying so hard. Makes her look like she cares instead of appearing above it all like she probably wants to.

Dorit is starting to get in my nerves. Her husband's speech was nice, though.

[sheetmoss]

LVP was so overdone/OTT at Dorit's party, she looked like a really bad drag queen doing LVP

[zulualpha]

1 hour ago, GreatKazu said:

Haha the ladies eating at In-n-Out after Erika's party. That is the go-to-place for late night munchies. In their case, that was their dinner. How the hell did Erika not have food for her guests? 

PK is 49??? He looks older.

I loved that scene brief as it was of the women scarfing down burgers, fries and shakes.  I hope Erika saw that and woke up to the fact that people expect food at a party.  Yes Erika, people do care about food.  Anyway, it reminded me of the Will and Grace epi where Karen ("use my alias-Anastasia Beaverhausen!") and her rich friends visited Taco Time on the down low.

So the latest thing in working out is spin classes with rowing instead of bikes.  Good idea, it's a whole body workout.  LisaR's comment that she's not as desperate as she was when she was in her twenties was interesting.  She comes off as pretty desperate to me.  Seems like a lot of people in Beverly Hills have some at least mild anxiety simmering under the surface of their glitzy lives.

After all the hoopla and fancy gifts the thing that stood out to Dorit about the evening was the lack of a cake.  Yikes.

As far as LisaVP's joke about Vinnie having his head up some woman's skirt, I thought it was funny.  I would have laughed but I guess infidelity is a sore subject with Eileen.  And Kyle as well doesn't see the humor in cheating husband jokes.  When PK brought in a chair for Dorit to sit in to hear the poem, Lisa looked at it and said, "he wants a lap dance" which I also thought was funny. 

[princelina]

2 hours ago, njbchlover said:

Plus, Dorit is younger, and it looks as if Dorit and PK have an actual mutually loving relationship.  I thought his speech was very nice, and she seemed genuinely thrilled and impressed by what he did for her - very nice to see her give him a genuine big hug and a kiss on the lips, as opposed to giving him a peck on the head and pat on the back to send him off to bed (Erika to Tom at her party).  Funny thing - PK actually DID the party for his wife - not the other way around {Erika planning her own party} - and there was actual food, drinks, and a fun time.

But no scantily dressed people were hired to dance on pedestals!  Now that's the mark of a fun party :)

1 hour ago, sasha206 said:

That hair has GOT to go.  As do the false eyelashes.  She's a beauituful woman whose hair and makeup is aging.

Kyle looked fantastic, even though I think it was too much boobage.  She looks great in red and while others don't like her new hair do, I think it softens her and looks great. Eileen's dress was fanastic.  Bes she's looked (although I think she should cut a few inches of her hair even though I love the sleek pony).

Wow - I don't know WTF LVP was thinking with that ensemble!  The hairdo! Those awful gloves!  And then her standing there doing that smoothing her long side hairs down with her hands in those gloves!  And the gloves!  LMAO at Kyle's "Look at you!" when they were all arriving and complimenting/commenting on outfits. That's all she could think of to say LOL. The sad thing is, I do think she's lost some weight and her outfit fit her very well and was probably one of the most flattering "dressy" outfits I've ever seen her in.  And if she had just worn that big old necklace (LVP needs a little tacky sparkle :) with maybe her hair up and tiny earrings, she could have looked quite stunning.  But that hair and those gloves - who is in her house telling her that looks nice?  Shame on them!  When I first saw her I wondered if she thought it was another costume party!

1 hour ago, WireWrap said:

Nahh, Lisa is just doing what she has always done, use humor to get through something uncomfortable. Think about it, Lisa and Rinna started joking back and forth, Rinna responded to Lisa's snarky humor with harmless snarky humor of her own and it all ended well (at least for now). Now compare Lisa's/Eileen's first interaction tonight. Lisa tries to convey her sympathy to Eileen about her mother's passing and Eileen acts like she was smacked in the face! Lisa pushes past it, is sincere to Eileen and they part ways (Oh and Lisa showed common curtesy to talk to Eileen away from the others). Eileen then approaches Lisa in the group and embarrasses/mocks her in front of the others, not separate from the group, but right there in front of them and then blabs/tattle tales to those missing. As much as I though Lisa should not have made the nasty joke about Greasy Vince/woman's skirt, I understand why she did/said it. LOL

Agreed with the Rinna/LVP interaction - that is how bitches who have to hang socially should do it!  The loser will be the one who loses her cool first.  For the other one - IMO LVP was losing the round to Eileen - so obvious with her "I'm fine ~ happy" ~ cue tremulous voice ~ "surviving, in this cold old world". Eileen was supposed to act all sympathetic so LVP could deliver a dig, but didn't play.  Then LVP's "I'm sorry . . . . . . . about your mother" was also obvious, and Eileen should have left it with her "Thanks, I appreciate it."  Drop mike and feel the victory.  But she had to ruin it by bringing the Hamptons up AGAIN (I don't call her The Relentless for no reason!  :)

22 minutes ago, breezy424 said:

Erika Jane's audition for the dancers was sooooo boring.  Like we're supposed to be impressed by EJ's stardom in the music industry.  Yawn.

Was I the only one wondering what her "creative team" really thinks of their job?  I'm sure they're happy to be employed and make good money and all that, but do you think they make fun of her behind her back?  She's only 4 years younger than me, and the thought of dancing around doing splits in a bikini while giving the finger and carrying on about "giving fucks" and "being expensive" to an autotune soundtrack does nothing for me but bring a confused look to my face.  But I guess Eileen thinks it sounds awesome so maybe I'm the wacko :)

4 minutes ago, sheetmoss said:

LVP was so overdone/OTT at Dorit's party, she looked like a really bad drag queen doing LVP

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!  Yes!

[Maharincess]

1 minute ago, zulualpha said:

I loved that scene brief as it was of the women scarfing down burgers, fries and shakes.  I hope Erika saw that and woke up to the fact that people expect food at a party.  Yes Erika, people do care about food.  Anyway, it reminded me of the Will and Grace epi where Karen ("use my alias-Anastasia Beaverhausen!") and her rich friends visited Taco Time on the down low.

So the latest thing in working out is spin classes with rowing instead of bikes.  Good idea, it's a whole body workout.  LisaR's comment that she's not as desperate as she was when she was in her twenties was interesting.  She comes off as pretty desperate to me.  Seems like a lot of people in Beverly Hills have some at least mild anxiety simmering under the surface of their glitzy lives.

After all the hoopla and fancy gifts the thing that stood out to Dorit about the evening was the lack of a cake.  Yikes.

As far as LisaVP's joke about Vinnie having his head up some woman's skirt, I thought it was funny.  I would have laughed but I guess infidelity is a sore subject with Eileen.  And Kyle as well doesn't see the humor in cheating husband jokes.  When PK brought in a chair for Dorit to sit in to hear the poem, Lisa looked at it and said, "he wants a lap dance" which I also thought was funny. 

I thought what Lisa said to Eileen was funny too, Eileen needs to buy a sense of humor.  If somebody has said to Lisa that Ken had his head up some woman's skirt, I could see Lisa laugh and say something like "marvelous, now I won't have to service him tonight" or something similar. 

Eileen has no sense of humor. 

[breezy424]

47 minutes ago, WireWrap said:

Erika said she was vomiting for 2 days, so........ LOL

Interesting that Rinna makes nice with Yolanda and helps her/Eileen go after Lisa and now all of a sudden 1 of her daughters are signed with a prestigious modeling agency! I'm not saying Yolanda made it happen but the timing sure is suspicious! LOL

I got why Lisa made that comment but I agree is wasn't nice at all.

The Rolls was rose gold

Why did LVP make that statement?  There was no reason for it IMO.

 

44 minutes ago, WireWrap said:

I don't think Lisa is jealous of Eileen's acting career nor of greasy/unwashed Vince.

That said, Eileen does look younger than Lisa when Lisa is all dolled up. When Lisa is in casual clothes, hair up and no/little makeup, she looks better than Eileen.

I agree that Lisa isn't jealous of Eileen's acting career but although I think Lisa does look better in casual without so much makeup.  Better than Eileen?  Hm.  I'd have to go with Eileen.  It's close, for sure, but Eileen is more natural.  In other words, not so much fillers and botox.

Edited December 14, 2016 by breezy424

[kokapetl]

Lisa looked terrible. She had Charo's hair, and her bejeweled gloves hung off her arms like the skin on Oprah's upper arms. 

Dorit's friend Jana very badly wants to be a real housewife. 

[Teddybear]

I'm curious why Arizona didn't work out for Alexia and she is going to Boston instead.  I thought she'd remain closer to home if she was going to transfer.  And that was a huge rock on her finger at the gym!  She seems so young to get engaged.

I loved Eileen's little dance after she told the other HW's Lisa's inappropriate comment about Vince.  What is Lisa's problem anyway?  She used to be my favorite--I even see her all over town and she (and Ken) love my dog so I've spoken with her several times.  But she's sinking to a new low....it's difficult to tell if that's really her personality or if she's playing a role?  She's like Bobby Fisher, you know.....

[biakbiak]

28 minutes ago, Teddybear said:

 

I loved Eileen's little dance after she told the other HW's Lisa's inappropriate comment about Vince.  

Really? it reminded me of Elaine Benes.

[yourmomiseasy]

Dorit can't find Jewish/Kosher food in LA?  Okay.  Her new Bentley is sick.  I want a rose gold car now.  Her party was way better than Erika's, just for the food alone, but it also just looked like everyone was having more fun.  The speech from her husband was really good.  I think I like him, but she bugs me.

When Rinna & kids plated the zucchini pasta it didn't look like enough for one person and then it turned out it was the serving platter and was supposed to be enough for three.  I guess that (and the fact that I won't accept half an almond as a birthday cake substitute) is why I'll never be a model. 

Why was Eileen expecting apology eleventy-million-and-one?  Even if LVP had said it, she wouldn't have accepted it.  I did laugh at LVP then pulling an Eileen and demanding Rinna apologize to her.  

F Erika and her label obsession.  Just because something is designer doesn't make it appropriate. 

Kyle's face watching LVP and Eileen go back and forth was the best part of the episode for me.

LVP's party hair reminded me of a Shih Tzu.  Her necklace and gloves were not good either.

 

Edited December 14, 2016 by yourmomiseasy

[Giselle]

6 hours ago, WireWrap said:

He's not that bad, Vince holds the Gold Medal for greasy looking! Doesn't he ever bathe, wash his hair or wear clean clothes? That man is just gross!

Sorry but it is a tie for first with Matthew McConaughey. 

[Rosebud1970]

Eileen, please, give it up! For the love of everything holy, give it up! We, well definitely I, don't care if Lisa VP apologizes to you because she hurt your tender feelings months and months ago in an off-handed manner.

Move on. This is getting boring. Well, it certainly bores me.

Edited December 14, 2016 by Rosebud1970

[Lady Grump]

34 minutes ago, Rosebud1970 said:

Eileen, please, give it up! For the love of everything holy, give it up! We, we'll definitely, I don't care if Lisa VP apologizes to you because she hurt your tender feelings months and months ago in an off-handed manner.

Move on. This is getting boring. Well, it certainly bores me.

And from where I'm sitting, LVP is the one who continues to poke the sleeping dog awake (looking tacky AF, doing it).

Her facade is certainly slipping. And as one of the few people who has never liked her, it's kinda awesome to finally watch.

[Lady Grump]

5 hours ago, yourmomiseasy said:

F Erika and her label obsession.  Just because something is designer doesn't make it appropriate.

 

 

Totally get what you're saying -- and agree to some extent. Label / name dropping is gross. Even though I tend to like Erika more than not, the label brag was gauche.

That said, her comment didn't bother me as much as it normally would. I guess because all the women are constantly talking about the "Beverly Hills lifestyle" and seem to embrace the abject materialism of it all. Erika's comment fit right in with that mentality. It was no different than Kyle driving around her new Lambo or talking about buying a plane or Lisa bragging about having 15 horses. It's just who these people are.

As an aside, Erika is such the Moschino girl -- very much like the "Guess" girls of the 1990s.

Edited December 14, 2016 by Lady Grump

[motorcitymom65]

45 minutes ago, Lady Grump said:

And from where I'm sitting, LVP is the one who continues to poke the sleeping dog awake (looking tacky AF, doing it).

Her facade is certainly slipping. And as one of the few people who has never liked her, it's kinda awesome to finally watch.

Yes, it is kind of awesome to watch. I have a love/hate relationship with her. I love her passion to her causes, and her relationship with Ken, but she has just pulled way too much shady shit over the years for me to not see who she is and forget it for more than a few minutes at a time. 

I have thought her relationship with Eileen interesting from the beginning. Eileen is in a completely different league from the rest of these bitches. From really almost anyone who has ever joined one of these franchises. While she is not some great academy award winning Actress, she is at the top of the food chain when it comes to her chosen career, and has managed to continue to work in an industry that is not kind to folks who age for 30-some years. She was a very well known entity when she joined the show, and she married into a very well known family. Not to take away from LVP's success because it is impressive, but no one knew who she was when she joined, and most (even if they had never watch Eileen on TV before) knew who Eileen was. Add to that she is older than LVP but looks years younger. I'm sure she has had some experience with a plastic surgeon, but mostly she appears to be the recipient of some very good genes. She is different because she isn't impressed with LVP. Not in the slightest. Everyone else has always felt like they needed to kiss her ring, but Eileen just doesn't. The whole "I'm British and therefore my humor might be slightly above your head" routine doesn't charm Eileen like it does the rest of them. She completely gets LVP and I think Eileen finds her somewhat ridiculous, which really bugs LVP. 

[Lizzing]

Eileen is so damn boring.  A talking head interview about her Y&R talking head interview, intercut with behind the scenes shots of the Y&R talking head?  WTF is this, the Bravo editing take on matryoshka dolls?  The rest of them aren't much better, but that was the epitome of soporific.

This season better pick up some steam or the exotic locales need to be shown soon because there is so little going on.  These parties aren't even that interesting.  When your plot points are "had no food" and "has food" from week to week, I'm going to want to see Kim go in on Rinna, and that is not a good thing to desire.

[motorcitymom65]

5 minutes ago, Lizzing said:

Eileen is so damn boring.  A talking head interview about her Y&R talking head interview, intercut with behind the scenes shots of the Y&R talking head?  WTF is this, the Bravo editing take on matryoshka dolls?  The rest of them aren't much better, but that was the epitome of soporific.

This season better pick up some steam or the exotic locales need to be shown soon because there is so little going on.  These parties aren't even that interesting.  When your plot points are "had no food" and "has food" from week to week, I'm going to want to see Kim go in on Rinna, and that is not a good thing to desire.

The formula for the first few episodes of a season are well established at this point. No matter the show, we are generally commenting that it is all boring, simply going over old drama. But that is the way it always is. In the beginning they are trying to get over whatever happened the season before (because there is never resolution at the reunion), and the new drama hasn't yet had time to start. It seems like we have to get to episode 4 or 5 before things really start rolling. 

[zoeysmom]

1 hour ago, motorcitymom65 said:

Yes, it is kind of awesome to watch. I have a love/hate relationship with her. I love her passion to her causes, and her relationship with Ken, but she has just pulled way too much shady shit over the years for me to not see who she is and forget it for more than a few minutes at a time. 

I have thought her relationship with Eileen interesting from the beginning. Eileen is in a completely different league from the rest of these bitches. From really almost anyone who has ever joined one of these franchises. While she is not some great academy award winning Actress, she is at the top of the food chain when it comes to her chosen career, and has managed to continue to work in an industry that is not kind to folks who age for 30-some years. She was a very well known entity when she joined the show, and she married into a very well known family. Not to take away from LVP's success because it is impressive, but no one knew who she was when she joined, and most (even if they had never watch Eileen on TV before) knew who Eileen was. Add to that she is older than LVP but looks years younger. I'm sure she has had some experience with a plastic surgeon, but mostly she appears to be the recipient of some very good genes. She is different because she isn't impressed with LVP. Not in the slightest. Everyone else has always felt like they needed to kiss her ring, but Eileen just doesn't. The whole "I'm British and therefore my humor might be slightly above your head" routine doesn't charm Eileen like it does the rest of them. She completely gets LVP and I think Eileen finds her somewhat ridiculous, which really bugs LVP. 

I think the Eileen/LVP relationship is one of mutual indifference.  Eileen has been a successful daytime actress for 30 years, LVP has been a successful restaurateur for 30 years.  When Eileen first arrived on the scene she was quite taken with LVP and vice versa.

LVP's joke is one my son played on me when he was 15-while driving by a gentleman's club near the airport-he said, "isn't that Dad's car?", it wasn't and my son knew it was a joke-we still laugh about it.  I think when someone has to explain it was a joke-it is usually on both the teller and the responder.  Please Bravo don't make this a storyline. 

[queenjen]

8 hours ago, CrinkleCutCat said:

I bet she spat out that Dorito chip she 'ate' in her talking head. I thought to myself "There's no way she's swallowing that!".

You made me snort: INDEED. I bet there are many things she spits out in fear of ingesting a calorie. I'm surprised she doesn't wear a mask on the daily in case a pesky nano calorie enters through her sinuses. I don't know why this woman gives me the screaming irrits everytime she is on. But i can give it a try: she's as original as a laugh track, she's dumb as a sock ,she's DEEPLY insecure about her body while insisting that she isn't and she's a fckn FOLLOWER who wants to lead .

That worked out predictably last season when she bore the brunt of the Munchhausen thing. So, predictably again, she's doing whatever it takes and taking whatever LVP throws at her for ANY chance to sit at the cool girls' table. That's Lisa Rinna in a nutshell. She wasn't a cool girl in high school, or she got there after a helluva lot of work. She's too dumb to be anything other than a sycophant to the perceived Queen Bee. She has developed something of a nose for the real power and where to find it, so she allies herself with that. Or tries to. She'll never come for Kyle, for example. LVP could be a known molester or axe murderer, but while she's the cool girl, Lisa R will be tunneling up her pantyhose in  hopes of being up her ass. 

Dorit is a fool and her husband is persona non grata in England due to some Giudice style financial malfeasance. My daughter and I worked out that that party would have been upwards of half a million, when you include the Bentley in custom color. Boy George has a nasty legal history also. Maybe his absence was more due to the kid's presence on this episode?

I am DYING to know why Erika is previewed with that line 'you don't know what I go through at night!'. She is looking a bit disturbed and she is going to have to either kiss LVP's ass or stage a take over. I don't think LVP can coexist outside of those options. Eileen is learning this. I'm actually liking Eileen more too, because I'm seeing more of LVP's behind the scenes manipulation IRL and it's ugly. Now that Yolo is out of the picture, and the crown is 'where it should be' according to LVP, the field is open to another contender. Provided they can take on LVP. I don't think Eileen has the wealth or the stomach for it, Dorit is a nitwit and Erika was aligned with Yolo and would be considered a threat by LVP, due to Tom's wealth. I'm wondering about Tom and what exactly Erika Jane DOES have to deal with. I imagine Erika isn't getting that lifestyle for nothing. I imagine Tom wants or needs something specific and Erika provides it and i'm not talking about love. Maybe something a bit more specialised and a lot more distasteful...

[ghoulina]

No wonder Lisa Rinna is so skinny. Did you see the portions of that pasta she and her girls ate??? Hell, the larger plate that they served from looked like enough for ONE, to me. But then they portioned that out into these tiny, little servings that looked like enough to feed a mouse. Good lord. 

Dorit seems really high maintenance, to me. She was really hoping her birthday party wasn't JUST friends gathering for some drinks. Heavens no, that's too boring. And thank God her car wasn't Tiffany blue. But where was the cake??? No cake, the horror! She's a bit much, no? 

Erica, I don't care who made that shit-dress; I found it way too casual for the party. 

You know, I think all parties involved (LVP, Rinna, and Eileen) are culpable for this crap that they got into last season, and are dragging into this season. So it's not like I'm on ANY side here. But I'm really having a hard time understanding why LVP has to be SO nasty at this point? If she wants to be on guard, fine. No one is asking you to sit down and give each other pedicures. But when Rinna shows up being very nice and complimentary, and you keep bringing up old shit and trying to warn others away from her - that's just really pathetic. It makes you look like an infant. 

What's so hard about just saying "hi" and "your dress is pretty" and moving on? Is it fake? Yea, a bit. But it's Beverly Hills. Fake is everywhere. Also, these are basically your co-workers. Who hasn't had to fake nice with their co-workers from time to time? At this point, I'm think Rinna is the better person, for stepping up and offering the apology. I'd just really love to see this shit buried. 

And what LVP said to Eileen about Vince was SOOO uncalled for. I'm over her "British humor" excuse. I'm no Brit, but isn't "taking the piss" out of someone reserved for those you're on better footing with? I just don't think she and Eileen have that kind of relationship, where you can get away with that shit. Plus, Lisa acknowledged that her humor may be a bit too aggressive for Americans. So why not dial it back a bit? Personally, I think she uses it as a cover for saying nasty shit. I don't find it funny at all. 

[queenjen]

5 hours ago, Teddybear said:

 She's like Bobby Fisher, you know.....

Paranoid, alone and dead in Iceland??!!

[Sai]

1 hour ago, motorcitymom65 said:

The formula for the first few episodes of a season are well established at this point. No matter the show, we are generally commenting that it is all boring, simply going over old drama. But that is the way it always is. In the beginning they are trying to get over whatever happened the season before (because there is never resolution at the reunion), and the new drama hasn't yet had time to start. It seems like we have to get to episode 4 or 5 before things really start rolling. 

Yup and the when the drama does start there'll be people commenting that they don't want to see the drama, fighting and screaming.  They wanna see house porn, clothes, parties, etc.  Sigh......just can't win.  

Edited December 14, 2016 by Sai

[QuinnM]

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And what LVP said to Eileen about Vince was SOOO uncalled for. I'm over her "British humor" excuse. I'm no Brit, but isn't "taking the piss" out of someone reserved for those you're on better footing with? I just don't think she and Eileen have that kind of relationship, where you can get away with that shit. Plus, Lisa acknowledged that her humor may be a bit too aggressive for Americans. So why not dial it back a bit? Personally, I think she uses it as a cover for saying nasty shit. I don't find it funny at all. 

I actually have more than 2 British friends and none of them would find her cruel shots funny.  In fact if you asked me to describe British humor it is so subtle that you miss it if you're not paying attention.  None of them find the type of crass attacks common to Lisa funny.  Did you notice when LVP, Lisa R and Dorit were talking that LVP was essentially snubbed out of the conversation.  She stood to the side throwing in her shots.  It was like no one wanted anything to do with her.  I think this will be an interesting season if LVP finds herself constantly on the edge of the action.

And this is why they have sucked me back in to this franchise.  Bastards!

[motorcitymom65]

4 minutes ago, Sai said:

Yup and the when the drama does start they'll be people commenting that they don't want to see the drama, fighting and screaming.  They wanna see house porn, clothes, parties, etc.  Sigh......just can't win.  

Exactly. Bravo cannot win in this area. I remember a few seasons ago, I think when Eileen and Lisar first joined. Bravo took their time in getting all the gals together in any real way. We had lots of one-on-one house porn, closet shots, scenes with them and their families, stuff with them at work. We also started the season with some nice vacation porn as Kyle and Yo vacationed together on that big boat. It was pretty light and easy breezy. The comments at the time were extremely vocal that it was all so boring. Folks wanted to see them together, being snarky, starting drama. If Bravo gives us small moments of their real lives, it is boring. If they give us drama, folks want the old formula where it was more about the small family moments. They cannot win. 

[queenjen]

I don't know what the correct formula is, motorcitymom65, I know I was whining that I wanted OC to go back to the happier times of Havasu, before cancer scams and Lymeopause etc. And the correct formula is definitely nothing like what is going on in Atlanta where NOTHING is real. At least with BH, the women are believable in their BH way. But I hear you. Someone upthread said they were going to toss it in, because it's 'same old, same old' and I wanted to comment that every time I've done that, something totally OTT goes down and I have to bingewatch from the start. God bless you, Bravo.

[motorcitymom65]

Some interesting information regarding Dorit and Paul, and the relationship with Boy George, which I wasn't sure I bought into completely. I was thinking it might have been a fake Cedric/LVP deal, where they just did the whole "he lives with us" for a storyline. It sounds like they really are that tight. The most interesting thing from the article below, which is from August, 2015, is that the three of them were apparently doing their own reality TV show. This from the article:

"The miracle manager sounds like a father figure, but in fact he is six years younger than George. Then again, George has always liked authority figures in his life. 

For some reason always Jewish. He grew up Catholic, so perhaps it is the attraction of opposites.

‘We have become very good friends. He is a great north London Jewish boy. In some ways we had a similar journey. What we both agree on is that we love America because it’s a place for second chances.’

He sounds smitten with him. 

‘I am, but not like that. He is straight with a beautiful wife [Dorita]. We are all doing a reality show together with the same people who do the Kardashians. It is called Paul, Dorita and I." 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/event/article-3187152/Boy-George-reveals-secrets-remarkable-reinvention.html

Also interesting is the fact that Paul filed for bankruptcy a few years back. And the nugget that he use to be on The Apprentice as one of those judges in the Boardroom. Sounds like he and Dorit have been trying to get into the Reality TV game for a while. 

 

[queenjen]

America is great for 2nd chances when you are the Giudices of the UK and probably not accepted anywhere in polite society. And then there is George O'Dowd

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3382597/Model-beaten-Boy-George-says-singer-axed-Voice.html

A lot of thirst between the 3 of them for reality tv definitely emerges...

[Pickles]

I don't think Alexia is engaged. That was a shot of Kyle's ring at the gym.

[zoeysmom]

2 hours ago, motorcitymom65 said:

Yes, it is kind of awesome to watch. I have a love/hate relationship with her. I love her passion to her causes, and her relationship with Ken, but she has just pulled way too much shady shit over the years for me to not see who she is and forget it for more than a few minutes at a time. 

I have thought her relationship with Eileen interesting from the beginning. Eileen is in a completely different league from the rest of these bitches. From really almost anyone who has ever joined one of these franchises. While she is not some great academy award winning Actress, she is at the top of the food chain when it comes to her chosen career, and has managed to continue to work in an industry that is not kind to folks who age for 30-some years. She was a very well known entity when she joined the show, and she married into a very well known family. Not to take away from LVP's success because it is impressive, but no one knew who she was when she joined, and most (even if they had never watch Eileen on TV before) knew who Eileen was. Add to that she is older than LVP but looks years younger. I'm sure she has had some experience with a plastic surgeon, but mostly she appears to be the recipient of some very good genes. She is different because she isn't impressed with LVP. Not in the slightest. Everyone else has always felt like they needed to kiss her ring, but Eileen just doesn't. The whole "I'm British and therefore my humor might be slightly above your head" routine doesn't charm Eileen like it does the rest of them. She completely gets LVP and I think Eileen finds her somewhat ridiculous, which really bugs LVP. 

I think the Eileen/LVP relationship is one of mutual indifference.  Eileen has been a successful daytime actress for 30 years, LVP has been a successful restaurateur for 30 years.  When Eileen first arrived on the scene she was quite taken with LVP and vice versa.

LVP's joke is one my son played on me when he was 15-while driving by a gentleman's club near the airport-he said, "isn't that Dad's car?", it wasn't and my son knew it was a joke-we still laugh about it.  I think when someone has to explain it was a joke-it is usually on both the teller and the responder.  Please Bravo don't make this a storyline. 

[zoeysmom]

Vulture feeling the boredom to the start of the season:  http://www.vulture.com/tv/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/

We now have assembled a gallery of reactionists, they are all waiting for someone to make the huge gaff, do the unforgivable and the rest can reel in the horror of it all.  It is a return to simpler times, more Season 1, where LVP introduced us to her British humor, via her confessionals or through her human pet Cedric.  Only through a paranoid moment by Camille where she thought she was being written in to be the villainess, was there any kind of discord outside of social slights and slams.

[Negritude]

7 hours ago, princelina said:

Was I the only one wondering what her "creative team" really thinks of their job?  I'm sure they're happy to be employed and make good money and all that, but do you think they make fun of her behind her back?  She's only 4 years younger than me, and the thought of dancing around doing splits in a bikini while giving the finger and carrying on about "giving fucks" and "being expensive" to an autotune soundtrack does nothing for me but bring a confused look to my face.  But I guess Eileen thinks it sounds awesome so maybe I'm the wacko :)

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!  Yes!

You were not the only one lol. I'm almost certain they have a field day reading her behind her back. Mikey (?) used to work with the Pussycat Dolls so EJ is a come down for him. I wasn't that big of a fan of theirs (I did like a couple of songs), but they were on the radio, had a string of Top 40 hits, and all the markings of pop stardom. That scene last ep when she's getting her makeup done and he's off to the side, "D-S-L...Disco glamour...," hahaha. And while I think Erika looks great and I hate to sound ageist, her music seems so juvenile and teenybopper. Coming from a woman in her mid 40s its just laughable. She married a filthy rich old man and he's bankrolling her dream, so good for her I guess.

Add me to the list of people who thinks LVP looked ridiculous. I've never been a fan of her style and it's getting worse and worse. Eileen is definitely aging more gracefully. Alot of the BH housewives look tacky to varying degrees at any given time. I guess money can't buy you class or taste lol. Hey Countess, instead of etiquette, you need to give a tutorial on how to look great in an effortless, age appropriate way.

[PickleDeeDee]

LVP was so tacky with the Claire's rhinestones.  Ew, just ew!   Does anyone else ever experience 2nd hand embarrassment for her over Ken's inappropriate comments?  She did not marry her match intelligence wise it seems.   She needs to go back to her more natural look stat.  Crisp white button up and her cute bootie in jeans is far better than this Cruella de Ville get up. 

I thought Dorit looked very pretty in this episode.  The husband's speech was heartfelt.  Her reaction to the rose gold Bentley was heartfelt, too ;-). 

Eileen was like a beautiful rose among thorns in the party, she looked so fresh.  I don't understand why she can't pull off these looks more often.  She is a gorgeous woman without much fashion sense.  

Vegetable pasta and you still have to have thimble sized portions, great example there of healthy eating habits, Lisa Rinna, but we know how your girls feel about "fatties".  Fat lips are seemingly acceptable though. 

I don't see how short little Kyle can even see where she is driving in that Maserati.  The head rests seem like they obscure any safe driving.   

Edited December 16, 2016 by PickleDeeDee

[WireWrap]

7 hours ago, Teddybear said:

I'm curious why Arizona didn't work out for Alexia and she is going to Boston instead.  I thought she'd remain closer to home if she was going to transfer.  And that was a huge rock on her finger at the gym!  She seems so young to get engaged.

I loved Eileen's little dance after she told the other HW's Lisa's inappropriate comment about Vince.  What is Lisa's problem anyway?  She used to be my favorite--I even see her all over town and she (and Ken) love my dog so I've spoken with her several times.  But she's sinking to a new low....it's difficult to tell if that's really her personality or if she's playing a role?  She's like Bobby Fisher, you know.....

I'm not sure there was some big reason other than she had to withdraw because of that was when Kingsley (Kim's dog) almost ripped her thumb off. Kyle would never come right out and say that the dog attack was the cause of Alexia not going back to school.

[racked]

Vanderpump is my favorite, so I'm kind of bummed by how unlikable she is to me so far this season, on this and Pump Rules. I don't blame her for holding a grudge against Eileen or Rinna, who were ridiculous and out for blood last year. But she's not playing it off right, it's just coming off mean and pathetic. Just be bitchy to them or freeze them out, I don't like the route she's taking. And why is she wearing her hair like a prize show dog?? But I'm hoping she will turn things around before the season is over.  They were awful to her last year so she deserves to be bitchy but...I don't like it like this. 

I could like Dorit if it wasn't for her Almost Accent. She's shallow and spoiled, but seeing rich people being rich is part of the appeal of this show.  I also do not appreciate her harsh eyemakeup! Why does she want to look like a raccoon? I do like her husband though, he seems sweet and sincere and very rich, a lovely combination. And her dad is one of the cutest reality tv dads I've seen. But hard to overlook that Accent. She sounds like Jennifer Coolidge when she guest starred in Friends. 

Kyle looks amazing with a red lipstick.  

[MyAimIsTrue]

I thought Dorit's birthday Bentley was ugly and the color tacky but what do I know, I drive a gray Toyota that I had to pay for myself.  I really and truly hope Dorit's father wasn't serious with his comment about PK being a great husband because he bought her a car as that's some fucked up priorities right there.

Eileen was stunning at the party, absolutely gorgeous.  She can pretty much do no wrong in my book. 

[tvfanatic13]

I like Dorit. She is a welcomed change from Yo. Of course, that too will change I am sure.

[ottergirl]

3 minutes ago, racked said:

Vanderpump is my favorite, so I'm kind of bummed by how unlikable she is to me so far this season, on this and Pump Rules. I don't blame her for holding a grudge against Eileen or Rinna, who were ridiculous and out for blood last year. But she's not playing it off right, it's just coming off mean and pathetic. Just be bitchy to them or freeze them out, I don't like the route she's taking. And why is she wearing her hair like a prize show dog?? But I'm hoping she will turn things around before the season is over.  They were awful to her last year so she deserves to be bitchy but...I don't like it like this. 

According to Rinna and Kyle, LVP was furious with Kyle for saying in the season premiere episode that LVP holds a grudge and that she prefers Rinna because Rinna is "more manipulable." Rinna said that LVP left the premiere party early because she was so mad when she saw that footage. 

I noticed that in tonight's episode, also, there were a number of clips of Kyle making small but unflattering comments about LVP, e.g, about how LVP makes jokes that are really digs. Benign statements, but we know LVP cannot take any criticism at all. (So funny, since her own talking heads are nonstop digs at other people, which are always "a joke, darling!") 

Methinks the editors are trying to start a fight. And it sounds like LVP is going to fall for it. What's interesting is, I wonder if it will have the same outcome it did in earlier seasons, when LVP claimed that Kyle betrayed her, and the hordes turned on Kyle.  While LVP is still a hugely popular housewife (the Reality Tea blog is filled with LVP fanatics), there are a growing number of people who are getting fatigued by her act. As your post above indicates! 

What's interesting to me is how Kyle is going to play this. While Kyle will never be as popular as LVP, she is in a stronger position now than ever.  She has her own TV show in development with a legit production company; she's about to do a run on Celebrity Apprentice, her marriage is great, she doesn't have to carry her sister on the show, and she's got more strong relationships with her castmates than anyone else. (In fact, Kyle is the only bridge right now between LVP and the others.) Last time Kyle was in a "power position" (early Season 2), she overplayed her hand, being mean to Brandi and taking LVP for granted. She paid quite the price for it.  Kyle's shown an ability to learn from her mistakes on the show, and I wonder how she's going to handle this scenario. (She was on WWHL last week saying that she loves LVP like a sister, and that she wished LVP wouldn't give her such a hard time about the "grudge" comment, because they'd had a great season together.)

If LVP were really smart, she'd let the Kyle stuff roll off her back.  It would earn her tons of credibility. But I don't think she will be able to resist; LVP is like certain political figures, in that she cannot allow any statement against her to go unchallenged, and she has to win at all costs.  

[Primetimer]

Though it's Dorit's turn for a milestone party, the queen of the night is Eileen.

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[kokapetl]

This might be why Erika wore that stupid shirt/dress:

It's still an ugly dress. The way Erika wore her hair made it look like it was the Toyota logo. 

I fast forwarded through most of her scene. Her music is fucking awful, and the "OMG, you're so bad!" ass kissing by her gay employees is annoying as hell.