S08.E02: "Kody Takes Responsibility"

[DakotaJustice]

@Tess23 Mariah turned 21 this year and went barhopping with Logan. 

[Tess23]

DakotaJustice, then it's worse than I thought. "I'm just a kid" indeed.

[Jellybeans]

MrSmith, I do not come from a good family.  But I was taught by my grandmother certain values so I see my parents with a different lens than most people would.

Mariah does not get a pass, even with everything you outlined.  I have been watching the show too. But this is all IMO of course.

[MrSmith]

33 minutes ago, Jellybeans said:

MrSmith, I do not come from a good family.  But I was taught by my grandmother certain values so I see my parents with a different lens than most people would.

Mariah does not get a pass, even with everything you outlined.  I have been watching the show too. But this is all IMO of course.

I accept that we'll have to agree to disagree, then. Nothing I've seen from Mariah so far puts her reaction or position out of bounds. Of course, if you're looking at it mostly from Meri's position, then the balance would swing out of Mariah's favor.

[NotEatingKale]

On 12/4/2016 at 8:40 PM, Armchair Critic said:

Could Mariah be gay? Somebody on another board said Mariah has a tumblr full of gay rights memes and pictures of hot chicks kissing. 

She is 1000000% a lesbian. I found her tumblr and at first I didn't believe it was hers because of all the rique naked women posts. Figured it was someone who copied her twitter username and reserved it on tumblr. But I just spent a half hour (lol) going through her archives to 2011 (when she was in high school) and she's talking about Utah and seminary and her sisters.

Edited December 7, 2016 by NotEatingKale
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[Tabbygirl521]

I posted this in Mariah's thread:

It seems that for Mariah to have compassion for her mom, she would have to acknowledge Kody's part in neglecting Meri emotionally. And that might lead to some difficult realizations about their family structure in general, and its effect on all the wives and kids. And that could lead to some resentment against Kody, which she probably can't emotionally afford right now; he is all she really has as a parent since she is estranged from her mom. (I doubt the other "moms" are much help since they almost certainly think Meri was 100% wrong in all this.)

[PamPote65]

On 12/5/2016 at 11:29 AM, 3girlsforus said:

To me the scariest part about Tony is that he reminds me of Kody. 

I think Kody is much more attractive than Tony, in terms of looks, ability to communicate, intelligence, etc.  I think that the Brown girls are choosing boyfriends who are less desirable than their father so that (on a subconscious level) they can have their man all to themselves and won't have to share him with other wives.  

The more I think about it they more I feel that the Brown family is based upon the unsaid fact that the women are not as attractive as Kody for various reasons.  He accepts that each woman isn't that incredible on her own, but having several of them makes up for that fact, and he never feels disappointed with any one wife.   This is why Janelle is the "easiest," because her weight lowers her self-esteem just enough that her expectations are really low and she is grateful for any attention from Kody.   No truly hot and highly educated woman would put up with any of this, but it doesn't seem like the polygamous men would ever bother setting their sights on a girl like that.

[MrSmith]

4 minutes ago, Tabbygirl521 said:

(I doubt the other "moms" are much help since they almost certainly think Meri was 100% wrong in all this.)

I'm not sure whether "this" refers to the affair or to the situation with Mariah. If "this" refers to the affair, ummm, yeah - she is 100% wrong. Did Kody play a part in setting her up for being vulnerable? Sure. Absolutely. 100%. Definitely. However, Meri has control over her actions and reactions and could - at any time - have elected to re|act in another way. She could have decided not to engage with the catfisher on the grounds that doing so violates her religious beliefs or her ethics. She could also have decided that she needs to leave the relationship she's in before she starts a new one. However, she didn't do any of those three things.

Is Mariah being a little hard on her mother? Maybe. It depends upon how much time and energy you believe she has available to figure out exactly what it is she needs and wants from her mother and how to articulate those needs and wants to her mother. Maybe she knows perfectly well what she wants and needs. If so, it might be a case where she isn't sure how to convey that information to her mother in a way her mother will be able to receive, process, understand, and then act on. It could also be a case (and this is the one that gets my vote) that she needs some time and space to calm herself down in order to have an adult conversation with her mother about what she wants and needs in order to resolve this. And Meri just keeps banging away on her with a steady drumbeat of "Yew need tah git ovah this" via text messaging (and probably also via voicemail). So, Meri is actively contributing to a situation she wishes would conclude.

[Snarklepuss]

Late to this party but here goes:

Mariah is all offended because she is just like Kody and her mother - self serving "me first" and all in it for herself.  Empathy?  Forget about it.  The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.  She and her mother are both "poor me" but it's all about them, not the other one or anyone else.  I don't buy that she should be so mad at her mother as to drag it out this long for any reason thus far proposed.  Screw her and her special snowflake-ness.  I can remember being mad at my mother for reasons just as good but never would take it to that extent when I was her age.  Give me a break, she is 21 NOT a kid at all!  She is old enough to have more depth and less selfishness. I had tons of understanding for my mother and her situation and I was only 19 at the time.  This selfish kidult needs a reality check big time.

Kody is just spinning Meri as a victim to save her (and hence his) false image as the wonderful loving polygamous family.  It has nothing to do with empathy.  He has to distance himself from Mariah's genuine disapproval not only to counteract her going off script, but to further that BS spin of him as all forgiving.  Who is he kidding?  He is still as disgusted with her as ever.  I don't buy his saint act one bit.  This is all for the camera.

[PamPote65]

1 minute ago, Snarklepuss said:

 

Kody is just spinning Meri as a victim to save her (and hence his) false image as the wonderful loving polygamous family.  It has nothing to do with empathy.  He has to distance himself from Mariah's genuine disapproval not only to counteract her going off script, but to further that BS spin of him as all forgiving.  Who is he kidding?  He is still as disgusted with her as ever.  I don't buy his saint act one bit.  This is all for the camera.

I agree with everything you wrote except the part about Kody being disgusted with Meri.  I think he is so completely not in love with this women that he flat out doesn't care if she was in love with another guy.  He is not responding to the idea that his wife fell in love with a guy (when she thought she was a he) like any normal boyfriend/husband does!   That is because he has no romantic feelings for her, which on some level she must know and this is why she is so sad.  

[Snarklepuss]

6 minutes ago, PamPote65 said:

I agree with everything you wrote except the part about Kody being disgusted with Meri.  I think he is so completely not in love with this women that he flat out doesn't care if she was in love with another guy.  He is not responding to the idea that his wife fell in love with a guy (when she thought she was a he) like any normal boyfriend/husband does!   That is because he has no romantic feelings for her, which on some level she must know and this is why she is so sad.  

Yeah well one of the reasons he has no romantic feelings for her at all is precisely because she disgusts him!  Not because of intending to cheat on him but it happened before that I'm sure or she would probably have never attempted it.

Edited December 7, 2016 by Snarklepuss

[Celia Rubenstein]

I can't really choose a side in this Mariah/Meri thing ... What Meri did - exposing Mariah to her online boyfriend, etc. sucks, and refusing to acknowledge her culpability in the whole thing while at the same time demanding forgiveness from Mariah - that's some BS right there.

But Mariah should not be so damn angry and judgey about her mother's personal life.  Especially since her mom is in a shit marriage and is miserable.  Hell, even Kody admits they had a messed up relationship and he was partly at fault.  And Meri was actually targeted and victimized by a nutjob who was out to make trouble in the life of a very vulnerable person just for jollies.    

I'm going to have to assign equal blame to both of them.  No, wait, no I can't ... Mariah is just being too smug and self-righteously indignant and she has no right to wag her finger in Meri's face while reaching in her pocketbook with her other hand.  She forfeits the moral high ground she is trying to claim for that move.  But then again Meri is lying to everyone about what was really going on and can't expect people to forgive wrongs she won't even acknowledge committing, much less do so on her timeline.  But Meri has been publicly humiliated and I can understand why she doesn't want to "go there" anymore than she has already been forced to.  And Mariah is showing absolutely no compassion for what her mother has been through.   But Meri did engage in an emotional affair right in front of her daughter and made it Mariah's business, and Mariah is entitled to have feelings about that. 

I just keep going in this same circle.  I guess I will have to call it a draw after all.  Meri needs to fess up and take responsibility for her actions with her "boyfriend" and acknowledge she wronged Mariah by involving her.  And Mariah needs to forgive her mother because she is not entitled to demand complete perfection from Meri the way she is doing.  Until they both do these things, they are going to be at odds.  

I guess we will see how they work it out, since Mariah was living with Meri all summer.  I don't see how they could be under the same roof for so long without dilling with the matter.  Then again these are the Browns, and they are not rill good at facing problems honestly, as this whole catfish situation has already demonstrated. Painfully. 

Edited December 7, 2016 by Celia Rubenstein

[Snarklepuss]

If someone didn't tell me  how old Tony and Mykelti were I would think they were high school kids just based on how immature they act.  His arrogance and cluelessness are hard to believe.  I'm beginning to wonder how scripted his outrageous expectations are concerning the size and timing of the wedding.  He's really making Kody work to maintain his wonderful "PC" image.  I'd be like, look, kid, we can't afford another wedding so soon so you'll just have to wait!  I did love it when he basically told him to keep his dick in his pants, though, LOL.

Creepy Captain subtitles?  LOL, funny but oh so true!  I seriously had to put on the closed captioning just to understand him!  I don't think he has a hearing impediment, he doesn't have that kind of speech.  I think he has poor diction because he's basically a dumb slug.  There, I said it!

Ask anyone in counseling and they'll tell you that a drastic personality change in a relationship is a very bad sign.  It makes me think Mykelti's doing that because she knows he wants a less assertive personality, but eventually after marriage she'll go back to being herself, which he may not like.  I think it's a train wreck waiting to happen.  He thinks he has a quiet, demure little thing when she's probably actually much more of her own person.  Sparks are gonna fly, I'm sure.

Edited December 7, 2016 by Snarklepuss

[Normades]

4 hours ago, MrSmith said:

Well ... let's see. How would you feel about your mother if:
1. Your mother had an affair.
2. Involved you in it by trying to get you to get to know her lover.
3. Crapped all over your family by planning to leave your father for her lover.*
4. Crapped all over the religion she raised in and pledges that she follows still.
5. Lies about the severity and nature of the affair.
6. Badgers you incessantly about why you haven't moved on barely 6 months after the affair ended.

* It's pretty apparent that Meri was planning to leave Kody for her lover because otherwise why would she try so hard to get Mariah to get to know him and become friendly with him. You only care that your child(ren) knows your lover if you're planning to take off to be with that person. Otherwise, you'd keep it hidden from them, as well, because you don't want them to blab to your spouse. This whole thing is a humongous pile of shit and Kodouche and Meri are both putting all the responsibility for dealing with it on their daughter. And when your mother can't even admit privately to you (Mariah) the truth and depth of the situation, then that's going to make for even harder feelings. If Mariah's been raised to always tell the truth, then she's going to place a pretty high bounty on being honest - which is something Meri has yet to do. Hell, I grew up lying to my parents all the time (because I was terrified of them) and I place a very high bounty on being honest. I don't put up with people lying to me for any reason. In a situation like the one in which Mariah finds herself right now, the fact that Meri continues to lie about it would probably push me to the point of never speaking with her again. There may well come a point where Meri has lied about it for so long that Mariah has no capacity to forgive.

I absolutely agree with this.  I never liked Mariah much before this whole incident, but now I see her in a new light.  I believe she has grown a lot and I applaud her for questioning the things she was taught.  Someone else posted that they were involved in their parent's affair in a similar way to Mariah.  I also had that experience.  It is HORRIBLE!!!  Mariah loves her dad (whether we like him or not) and she was put in a position where she had to lie to him.  She also had to continually lie to everyone else in her family.  I know some of you think she had an option to refuse to lie for Meri,  but as someone who has lived it, that just isn't an option.  She was put in an absolute no win situation.  And now, people are saying she is rude and spoiled.  If she is spoiled, I lay that at her parent's feet.  Where is the outrage for the way Meri continues to treat Mariah ---- and everyone else?  In my book Mariah deserves all the space and time she needs to heal, whether or not that is one day, one year or more, it is up to her.  Since Meri continues to lie, I don't see forgiveness coming her way anytime soon.  And while I believe in respect for your elders --- respect is earned.  Meri has a long way to go in my book.  

I predict Mariah will need a very long time to heal from this experience.  I was 10 years old when I went through it.  I am now over 40 and although I've moved on and repaired my relationships as best I can, I can still feel the effects in my life.

[Natalie68]

20 hours ago, Nowhere said:

No. Fat Tony is very close to fat. So close that he is commonly perceived my others as fat. So he's fat. And that's OKAY. 

LOL!  Gotcha.  I was thinking in terms of, sorry to say it, Janelle.  I see him as quite doughy and plump but it might just be semantics after all.  He is no string bean that's for sure.  

[Natalie68]

58 minutes ago, Normades said:

I absolutely agree with this.  I never liked Mariah much before this whole incident, but now I see her in a new light.  I believe she has grown a lot and I applaud her for questioning the things she was taught.  Someone else posted that they were involved in their parent's affair in a similar way to Mariah.  I also had that experience.  It is HORRIBLE!!!  Mariah loves her dad (whether we like him or not) and she was put in a position where she had to lie to him.  She also had to continually lie to everyone else in her family.  I know some of you think she had an option to refuse to lie for Meri,  but as someone who has lived it, that just isn't an option.  She was put in an absolute no win situation.  And now, people are saying she is rude and spoiled.  If she is spoiled, I lay that at her parent's feet.  Where is the outrage for the way Meri continues to treat Mariah ---- and everyone else?  In my book Mariah deserves all the space and time she needs to heal, whether or not that is one day, one year or more, it is up to her.  Since Meri continues to lie, I don't see forgiveness coming her way anytime soon.  And while I believe in respect for your elders --- respect is earned.  Meri has a long way to go in my book.  

I predict Mariah will need a very long time to heal from this experience.  I was 10 years old when I went through it.  I am now over 40 and although I've moved on and repaired my relationships as best I can, I can still feel the effects in my life.

I was one of them.  It IS horrible. I was much older than Mariah and it was tough to navigate.  Between my grandmother dying, my mom very sick (died 2 years later), and meeting his side piece (that he was never going to marry) it was a lot (and 6 months later he dumped THAT side piece for another who moved into our family home and she tried to steal it, found out when HE died).  I wasn't horrible to my father but was very honest with him.  I told him I didn't begrudge the fact he HAD a side piece (not my marriage, not my business) but I hated that WE were introduced to her, mom knew about it, the entire SMALL town knew about it, and we were all expected to keep it a secret.  Not happening.  The worst?  His Mormon mother, sister and her family all welcomed the 2nd side piece into their home several times while my mom was alive.  My sister explained to our (very pious) grandmother how awful it was they accepted the affair and her response was your mother was mean to me.  Um no she wasn't, she was wonderful to you and fuck you old lady!  Now sadly my cousin is dying of cancer and I doubt her mom (my aunt) would appreciate my cousins husband doing the same thing our dad did.  I no longer have anything to do with these people.

I cut Mariah quite a bit of slack about this BUT she needs to have an adult conversation with her mother and separate her relationship from the marital relationship.  And goddamn it, keep marital problems between the marrieds and don't overshare with the kids!

[ladle]

On 12/4/2016 at 8:28 PM, SuzyLee said:

All I can think while watching this Kody-Tony lunch is that if you're so young that you even entertain a conversation with your future father-in-law about when/if you'll have sex with your future fiancé, then you're probably too goddamn young to get married in the first place.  This is complete insanity.

I mean.... I'm 36 and generally pretty open about sex, but I still don't think I'd be able to entertain a conversation with my father-in-law about my sex life with his son.  *shudder*  Kody talking to people about his daughters' purity will never not be creepy to me.  Totally agree with you that this is insanity, though.  If by "this" you mean Mykelti's engagement and...everything else about how this family operates.

[ginger90]

Oh Mykelti

https://mobile.twitter.com/Mykelti15_B/status/805832323749052416?p=v

[mbutterfly]

On December 6, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Lm2162 said:

Not according to her, their family or their religion. They don't consider legal marriage to be real in any way. They were married in the temple and, according to them, "sealed for eternity." Saying that she's not legitimately married is like saying I'm not because I didn't have a proper Hindu wedding. Well, I'm not Hindu, so that's not a requirement. They are married in their eyes. 

I'm wondering whether in their eyes adopted children are sealed (or whatever the word is for offspring). Or are they still sealed with Jessop? I mean it's just a civil action also. 

[RealityCowgirl]

11 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

Oh Mykelti

https://mobile.twitter.com/Mykelti15_B/status/805832323749052416?p=v

Clicked through and read some of her other tweets the last few days. Not a good look. At her age, she's free to be as public and engaging as she wants. She also gets to deal with what comes along with her choices.

[DakotaJustice]

6 minutes ago, RealityCowgirl said:

Clicked through and read some of her other tweets the last few days. Not a good look. At her age, she's free to be as public and engaging as she wants. She also gets to deal with what comes along with her choices.

Just read some of them myself.  I think she just took the Brown PMS Tweet Award from Mariah.  She should probably just not comment.

[toodles]

25 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

Oh Mykelti

https://mobile.twitter.com/Mykelti15_B/status/805832323749052416?p=v

My, my, my.  If you and FT "deserve" something nicer than a backyard wedding, I would suggest you both get a second job or three.  Find a way to PAY FOR IT YOURSELF(!) and maybe you can get what you "deserve".  Entitled little snot.

[ginger90]

The other tweets on there are really something. She hadn't really tweeted much previously. Tony must be away, she's not very calm.

[riverblue22]

Just looked through Tony's photos on FB.  He's just a kid, very immature.  IMO of course.

[Kohola3]

25 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

Tony must be away, she's not very calm.

Probably at a big banker's convention.

[ladle]

On 12/4/2016 at 8:53 PM, Awfarmington said:

As snotty as Mariah is overall, so far she is spot on with the whole Meri situation. Kody probably believes the same thing as Mariah, but doesn't want to say it out loud.

THIS.  Also, I really admire Mariah's total unwillingness to stick to the party line about Meri being a victim.  She's like the little kid screaming that the emperor is nude, and it is refreshing and awesome.  More of this please! 

[ladle]

On 12/4/2016 at 9:53 PM, Awfarmington said:

A cougar could have her half eaten before he bothered to look back. 

To be fair, I don't think Robyn was anywhere near the area at the time. 

[VioletNevermind]

3 hours ago, DakotaJustice said:

Just read some of them myself.  I think she just took the Brown PMS Tweet Award from Mariah.  She should probably just not comment.

Yikes, you weren't kidding.  Two particularly nice quotes: "At least I didn't end up with you" and "Shut your face, he was nervous."  Someone needs to inform Mariah that she has everything that she has due to the very fans (and snarky "fans" like us) that she's basically telling to kiss her ass on social media.  At the end of the day, no one but her family truly gives a shit if this relationship works out or not (and it won't).  She'll just be one more washed-up young divorcee with a user of an ex-husband when this inevitably crashes and burns.  Many moons ago, I was one, too, but I didn't do it in front of the whole world while getting paid mondo bucks for it, treating others like crap, and expecting others to respect my privacy (but don't forget to send my TLC paycheck!). 

Edited December 8, 2016 by SuzyLee
I wasn't done bitching!

[Adiba]

2 hours ago, mbutterfly said:

I'm wondering whether in their eyes adopted children are sealed (or whatever the word is for offspring). Or are they still sealed with Jessop? I mean it's just a civil action also. 

Yeah I'm confused, too. Does the AUB have a temple and sealing like the LDS? Also, I know Janelle was sealed to her first husband ( was that LDS?), so does that mean she'll have live on his planet in the afterlife? 

[DakotaJustice]

29 minutes ago, SuzyLee said:

Yikes, you weren't kidding.  Two particularly nice quotes: "At least I didn't end up with you" and "Shut your face, he was nervous."  Someone needs to inform Mariah that she has everything that she has due to the very fans (and snarky "fans" like us) that she's basically telling to kiss her ass on social media.  At the end of the day, no one but her family truly gives a shit if this relationship works out or not (and it won't).  She'll just be one more washed-up young divorcee with a user of an ex-husband when this inevitably crashes and burns.  Many moons ago, I was one, too, but I didn't do it front of the world while getting paid mondo bucks for it, treating others like crap, and expecting others to respect my privacy (but don't forget to send my TLC paycheck!). 

I had to laugh out loud at her tweet saying that because FT is a banker and a finance major that means he knows how to handle money. 

Being able to sell loans and open accounts doesn't automatically correlate to being able to handle one's own finances or stick to a budget. 

[iii]

6 hours ago, NotEatingKale said:

She is 1000000% a lesbian. I found her tumblr and at first I didn't believe it was hers because of all the rique naked women posts. Figured it was someone who copied her twitter username and reserved it on tumblr. But I just spent a half hour (lol) going through her archives to 2011 (when she was in high school) and she's talking about Utah and seminary and her sisters.

welp, i just visited this blog and she reposted a quote that says, 
"in hindsight i never had a gay cousin so i really should have known it was gonna be me all along" 

haha so now we now, good for her. 

[toodles]

On 12/5/2016 at 9:32 AM, toodles said:

43 minutes ago, DakotaJustice said:

I had to laugh out loud at her tweet saying that because FT is a banker and a finance major that means he knows how to handle money. 

Being able to sell loans and open accounts doesn't automatically correlate to being able to handle one's own finances or stick to a budget. 

 

I call major bs that he is a banker who has anything to do with the public.   I've posted about this thread so I won't bore you with a repeat. But just......No.

[riverblue22]

1 hour ago, iii said:

welp, i just visited this blog and she reposted a quote that says, 
"in hindsight i never had a gay cousin so i really should have known it was gonna be me all along" 

haha so now we now, good for her. 

Now there's a plotline for the show!

[RazzleberryPie]

2 hours ago, iii said:

welp, i just visited this blog and she reposted a quote that says, 
"in hindsight i never had a gay cousin so i really should have known it was gonna be me all along" 

haha so now we now, good for her. 

Whose blog?

[MarysWetBar]

On 05/12/2016 at 7:23 AM, SunnyBeBe said:

I skipped through most of the hiking stuff.  Please......I'm glad Mykeltie was pleased with the proposal. I saw part of it and it was painful.  I suppose her expectations are low though.  I fear that she doesn't know, just how much she doesn't know about what is going to happen.  God bless her.

I admit that seasons ago, I thought that Janelle was my favorite sister wife.  (Man, that sounds odd. lol)  But, as she has opened up about her relationship ISSUES with Meri, it has really put her AND Meri in a poor light.  I would really be embarrassed to have such little initiative, control, and commitment to make things right within the family.  It's really disgraceful to continue in this weird place when there are children who look up to you.  They both appear so petty, unyielding and pathetic.  OF COURSE, things COULD be MUCH better if you WANTED them to be ladies.  You have to will yourself to do it and they refuse to do that.  Such self pride is so silly in light of all the other issues in their lives.  I don't want to hear them keep saying, "That's just not were we are now in our relationship."  I wish they would just either make amends or shut up.  Enough of your whining.  

Mariah normally ann oysoys me with her whining and entitlement, but, she does have a point about Meri. I get it.  Still, I wish she would just say how many years Meri gets punished, sentence her and let her do her time.  Then she can move on.

 I've noticed that this family has this notion that because they feel a certain way, that the feeling is out of their control. They have to sit and wait for it to change and go away. So often they say that, "That's just not where we are yet."  They don't get that they have the control to be wherever they want to be with.   Maybe, that's why they need Nancy so much.  lol 

Yeahhhhhh I'm gonna need a link for that Tumblr. 

Also.. I'm  banned from Kody and janelle and Meris twitter accounts so it's awesome when you all post pics for me. That banning was due to a tweet frenzy last season following the show where one of janelles kids gave King Sol shit. I simply commented that if one of them got off their lazy asses to discipline the little bastard, his sibling wouldn't have to.

Someone from here actually joined me in the tag team but I don't know who it was..Boston chick... where are you? Lol

I totally was in awe watching that poor half salad quivering on FTs fork...mesmerized even.  I knew he'd shovel it all in. He wanted lunch to be over so he could get the fuck outta there asap.

Can anyone enlighten me as to why Kody used the term "stinkfinger"? I half caught that but it made me feel so sick I headed to the kitchen for some water. 

I agree with the poster who mentioned if it is going against mariahs morals to even talk to her mother anymore without a full trial and meri in sack cloth and ashes, she's free to throw a pillow and blankie in one of the kiddie pools out back and maybe get a student loan for the rest of medical school or whatever she's taking now. 

I think Kody is wayyyyy too interested in his  adult  daughter's sex lives. Shades of JB Duggar there.

Edited December 8, 2016 by MarysWetBar

[Celia Rubenstein]

Mykelti needs to back the hell off of the twitter and take Donald Trump with her. 

[Christina]

Mariah has always taken things personally, even if they didn't really apply to her. For instance, when Meri didn't get the finance company the information they requested in time, and then kept bothering the construction workers so she could take photos, holding up progress, Mariah was upset and was showing the persecution complex Meri and Kody instilled in her from birth. She got angry when she thought Hunter was caught drinking, there was another issue with her sisters where she ran off to pout, and a few other instances that I can't scrape together now. Her feeling that Meri is putting some of the blame on her, i.e. her "This wasn't my fault!" comment, is just another example.

Meri shared A LOT of personal family information with that psycho catfisher, and CF shared that information all over the internet as different friends of Sam. she shared how much they earned, including the breakdown per person. I don't remember the exact amounts, but Janelle got the most and Meri got the least with Robyn and Christine being equal, I think, and Kody had a small stipend along with funds from the "master" account, as needed. Someone asked why Janelle got more, and the CF as a friend said that she had the most teens in various activities and brought in extra income with outside work. The "friend" also made allegations that the friend Mariah brought to Meri's was her girlfriend, and Meri had talked to "Sam" about how to tell her that she knew and it was okay. You just know that the CF tried to get that info in tweets, but apparently it was only in phone conversations. I'm pretty sure most of this was in the comments at All About The Tea, a website my Firewall hates so I don't visit often.

I don't blame Mariah for being pissed at Meri ignoring everyone, not just her, about the fact "Sam" was a catfisher, which began immediately. Instead she shared private information with a predator, who likely intended to blackmail her, only to find out she didn't have anything to pay her off. And to add fuel to the fire, while Mariah is trying to process the betrayal, Meri lies to her and the family about what happened, and basically told them to get over it, while continuing to lie. If the Brown's really think that the public believes Meri was approached by a predator who wanted to break the family up because they were polygamists, they are every bit as stupid as they have come across for years. But for Meri to expect Mariah to buy that excuse, makes the continual lying even more insulting to her family. The adults seems to have made an agreement about what to say, but Mariah didn't. 

[ginger90]

Any guesses where this was

https://www.instagram.com/p/BNu1vugjDtQ/

[mbutterfly]

3 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

Any guesses where this was

https://www.instagram.com/p/BNu1vugjDtQ/

I'm afraid that blue bin is going to topple over onto Grandma's head. 

[mbutterfly]

3 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

Any guesses where this was

https://www.instagram.com/p/BNu1vugjDtQ/

I'm afraid that blue bin is going to topple over onto Grandma's head. 

[Kohola3]

God, they look like they are baring their teeth rather than smiling.  And the sycophantic responses - gag.  Please don't tell me that there are morons out there who actually buy into this crap.  

[llewis823]

THis may not be possible, but when you post these twitter and instagram links, is there a way to screenshot it instead? I don't have instagram or twitter, don't want either of them, but would like to see what you're talking about so often in these threads. 

[Kohola3]

I don't think you need accounts to follow the links. I have neither Twitter nor Instagram and I don't have trouble viewing the messages.

[taragel]

18 hours ago, NotEatingKale said:

She is 1000000% a lesbian. I found her tumblr and at first I didn't believe it was hers because of all the rique naked women posts. Figured it was someone who copied her twitter username and reserved it on tumblr. But I just spent a half hour (lol) going through her archives to 2011 (when she was in high school) and she's talking about Utah and seminary and her sisters.

How much more fun would all this wedding stuff be then if Mariah was the one who wanted to get married next? Let's see Kody give that speech to her betrothed about protecting her purity. I'm not sure he could even wrap his head around it.

[RazzleberryPie]

7 minutes ago, taragel said:

How much more fun would all this wedding stuff be then if Mariah was the one who wanted to get married next? Let's see Kody give that speech to her betrothed about protecting her purity. I'm not sure he could even wrap his head around it.

He's so clueless he'd probably be ok because two women don't have the parts to have sex with each other. Her purity is intact forever. Of course we can also blame Meri's catfishes and the government for persecuting the polygs and therefore turning Meriah gay. 

(Disclaimer: no need for anyone to explain or clarify this for me. I understand. I don't know if Kody understands). 

[Cherrio]

12 hours ago, toodles said:

I call major bs that he is a banker who has anything to do with the public.

Maybe its a typo and meant to be a W ? (wanker)   

[RealityCowgirl]

Mariah, you do you. I wish you well. 

What is more interesting to me is the likelihood that the massive herd of children they've created will include one or more who do not fit their heterosexual ideal. Statistics are not on their side. If I'm remembering right, they've talked a good game publicly about acceptance. But how will that play out when one - or more - of their children makes the theoretical real?

[tabloidlover]

13 hours ago, DakotaJustice said:

I had to laugh out loud at her tweet saying that because FT is a banker and a finance major that means he knows how to handle money. 

Being able to sell loans and open accounts doesn't automatically correlate to being able to handle one's own finances or stick to a budget. 

Maybe it's like the Duggars?   If he watches someone be a banker for a day or two, he is automatically a banker!

As to the post below (I can't seem to respond under the quote box)  I agree a million percent!   Mariah is a grown woman.  If she is so upset with her mother (rightfully or not), she doesn't have to stay the summer with her.   She could go get a JOB and rent her own apartment like a fuckin adult.   You don't like your parents or their rules/choices?  Get out and pay for your own school.  

These Brown kids are so entitled (minus Logan) that it boggles my mind. 

10 hours ago, MarysWetBar said:

I agree with the poster who mentioned if it is going against mariahs morals to even talk to her mother anymore without a full trial and meri in sack cloth and ashes, she's free to throw a pillow and blankie in one of the kiddie pools out back and maybe get a student loan for the rest of medical school or whatever she's taking now. 

Edited December 8, 2016 by tabloidlover
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[tabloidlover]

There was a preview last night for the next episode.   It was FT and Mykelti coming to discuss their decision on a wedding month.   Of course, they want August.  Kody is handling this whole thing all wrong.  He should have said okay but we will not be able to financially assist you that soon.  Good luck to you lovebirds, let us know the date and location and we will be there!   I would love to see THAT reaction from FT and Mykelti.   Demanding and entitled children need a reality check.

[VioletNevermind]

1 minute ago, tabloidlover said:

There was a preview last night for the next episode.   It was FT and Mykelti coming to discuss their decision on a wedding month.   Of course, they want August.  Kody is handling this whole thing all wrong.  He should have said okay but we will not be able to financially assist you that soon.  Good luck to you lovebirds, let us know the date and location and we will be there!   I would love to see THAT reaction from FT and Mykelti.   Demanding and entitled children need a reality check.

I thought the same thing.  Mykelti has said on the show and on social media that she doesn't care about a big wedding, but then says that she doesn't feel she should have to get married in her backyard due to a lack of funds.  Which is it?!  Just an FYI, Mykelti: young people without money who shouldn't be getting married in the first place and who do not have parental buy-in are often forced to go to the courthouse.  Just how badly do you want to get married, hmm?