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Joy and Austin: This One Time At Family Camp

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12 minutes ago, Fostersmom said:

On the flip side, you know how many people see on line ordering as their own personal dressing room? Sure, order tons of stuff, then turn around and return it all for free and get a full refund. Amy's got a tiny boutique, she can't afford people ordering just to return. That's twice the credit card processing fees and twice the shipping for a lot of those companies. Sure, Amazon and Walmart can afford it, Amy can't. 

So far her polices seem standard for small boutiques- narrow return window, receipt required, return in original form of payment etc. I don’t know how successful the boutique will be, something tells me Amy doesn’t know what she doesn’t know- as in she won’t seek the advice of more experienced small business owners. I do wish her the best, it’s good to have something to take pride in. 

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24 minutes ago, Fostersmom said:

On the flip side, you know how many people see on line ordering as their own personal dressing room? Sure, order tons of stuff, then turn around and return it all for free and get a full refund. Amy's got a tiny boutique, she can't afford people ordering just to return. That's twice the credit card processing fees and twice the shipping for a lot of those companies. Sure, Amazon and Walmart can afford it, Amy can't. 

All of Amy's offerings are generic sizes Small/Medium/Large.  While that works for some garments, form-fitting styles need actual dress sizes.  She is bound to get a lot of returns just because the clothes don't fit properly.  Also, she doesn't list fabric content.  People might be expecting a certain quality and become shocked when the fabric is actually a flimsy acetate.

This isn't her first attempt at an online retail store.  Two years ago she launched a venture selling T-shirts and sportswear.  That failed.  www.shopsweetrachelle.com

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7 hours ago, Snow Fairy said:

Just a side note, every time I read these comments, I wonder in which thread I am. 

Aww, little teeth

Awww Gideon!!

 

I like Joy’s glasses. 

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3 hours ago, madpsych78 said:

To Joy's credit, Gideon appears to be a very happy, easygoing baby.

He does look clean and well fed and well cared for.

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5 hours ago, madpsych78 said:

To Joy's credit, Gideon appears to be a very happy, easygoing baby.

Granted we haven't seen much of Joe's little one, but Jill seems to be the only Duggar sibling whose kids are constantly fearful and/or apprehensive. I think she's the only one who bought into the Pearl's infant abuse discipline regime.

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2 hours ago, Nysha said:

Granted we haven't seen much of Joe's little one, but Jill seems to be the only Duggar sibling whose kids are constantly fearful and/or apprehensive. I think she's the only one who bought into the Pearl's infant abuse discipline regime.

Particularly with Izzy.

Even Anna's kids seem happy and look who their father is.

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21 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

I agree. When I think of Jill & Derick as parents I'm haunted by their discussion of giving one year old Izzy a sibling so he'd know "the world doesn't revolve around him". Because really most of the parents' world should revolve around their helpless dependent child.

Derick had no clue how marriage and children would impact his life. No more trekking around foreign mountains, pick-up games "overseas", etc. But he has somehow figured out how to be a perpetual student.

I think in a different social milieu Derrick would be single (for a long time- if not his entire life) and childfree. He might be okay (emotionally) with a later marriage/partnership with a woman that had kids that were grown or near grown, but he seems far too self centered to be a full time parent. 

 

I think in a different time and socila millieu JB &Michelle would’ve been a great childfree couple or only ONE child. They don’t like raising children!

 

since this is the Joy and Austin topic- it’s soon to tell what type of mom Joy will be. She’s so so young, but she had a great sister Mom in Jill. Austin seems austere and not compatible with a lot of different personalities and things running around creating noise and clutter. He comes from a family of 2 and has a great work ethic, let’s see how many they have. I can see him being responsible and getting a vasectomy if the number of children get to be too much for him. 

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@GeeGolly I hope you are right about Austin. However, I have read that Joy is the most conservative sister. I guess someone we I'll deserve this distinction, but a teen bride doesn't instill much confidence that she'll go off the reservation and eschew the Pearls' garbage.

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2 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

@GeeGolly I hope you are right about Austin. However, I have read that Joy is the most conservative sister. I guess someone we I'll deserve this distinction, but a teen bride doesn't instill much confidence that she'll go off the reservation and eschew the Pearls' garbage.

Alyssa Bates was a teen bride and she did instill that confidence, however misplaced. Same with her sister Josie. 

I thought Jana was the most conservative. Or was that Jill? Anyway, Joy seems less conservative to me, and more just a follower of both her headships and the rules.

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10 minutes ago, Temperance said:

Anyway, Joy seems less conservative to me, and more just a follower of both her headships and the rules.

I agree.  I don't think Joy thinks for herself much if at all.  

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Joy seems like she's not really bright, and she also comes off as apathetic and a follower. I don't think she has any interest or much capacity for pushing boundaries. 

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One can only hope she's so apathetic she can't be bothered actually disciplining Gideon in any kind of Pearl fashion, and that Austin is out working as much as possible, so he's not around to enforce anything.

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6 minutes ago, Zella said:

Joy seems like she's not really bright, and she also comes off as apathetic and a follower. I don't think she has any interest or much capacity for pushing boundaries. 

I don't either. If Austin tells her to whack Gideon with a ruler, she'll whack him with a ruler. 

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3 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

I don't either. If Austin tells her to whack Gideon with a ruler, she'll whack him with a ruler. 

Even if he's at work and is talking to her on the phone.

55 minutes ago, Temperance said:

Alyssa Bates was a teen bride and she did instill that confidence, however misplaced. Same with her sister Josie. 

I thought Jana was the most conservative. Or was that Jill? Anyway, Joy seems less conservative to me, and more just a follower of both her headships and the rules.

Wearing pants and trick or treating doesn't give any clues to how Alyssa is disciplining her children though. And all the Bates children have somewhat of an identity, even while in the home. Joy, not so much.

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37 minutes ago, Absolom said:

I agree.  I don't think Joy thinks for herself much if at all.  

 

27 minutes ago, doodlebug said:

I think Joy is not the sharpest tool in the Duggar shed.  I don't see any of the kids as being exceptionally bright, but she seems to be less bright than the rest of them.

 

5 minutes ago, Zella said:

Joy seems like she's not really bright, and she also comes off as apathetic and a follower. I don't think she has any interest or much capacity for pushing boundaries. 

Probably not. Joy wasn't raised by JB and Michelle at any point. Her only "real" parent was Jill. Which on one hand at least she had someone but on the other hand she was given over to Jill who may be a good buddy but who was still a child herself. Jill isn't the smartest or cleverest Duggar either. She parroted whatever her parents told her and pretty much a disaster in almost everyway. Parenting her sons, being a missionary, her bad decisions when it came to Israel's birth, and even her cooking. Zero ability to adapt to change or critical thinking skills or really any thinking skills (thanks to her parents). And she's the one who raised Joy. Its not surprising Joy turned out the way she did (actually its not surprising all but one Duggar kid turned out the way they did. Good job JB and Michelle).  

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1 hour ago, kalamac said:

One can only hope she's so apathetic she can't be bothered actually disciplining Gideon in any kind of Pearl fashion, and that Austin is out working as much as possible, so he's not around to enforce anything.

I can't see Joy successfully blanket training Gideon or any future children.   I don't think she has the personality to follow through on this type of negative reinforcement.   Austin would have to constantly remind her to do it and he actually works.  Austin will be the disciplinarian in the family and Joy will be the pushover.

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3 hours ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

I can't see Joy successfully blanket training Gideon or any future children.   I don't think she has the personality to follow through on this type of negative reinforcement.   Austin would have to constantly remind her to do it and he actually works.  Austin will be the disciplinarian in the family and Joy will be the pushover.

I could be completely wrong, but I don't think Joy is a "pushover," I think she genuinely doesn't give a shit -- about anything. I think this could become a problem as Austin begins to realize that what he initially took to be an "easy-going" attitude, is not that at all. I think that Joy may be as checked-out as J'chelle, and she doesn't have any sister-moms to pick up the slack, either.

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Hopefully, his own. I really hope that they're not spending the winter in the RV.

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2 hours ago, Lunera said:

Austin is working on a new house.

Time to earn your keep Giddy-up. At least you will have a skill to get a job, unlike most of your cousins.

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In June 2018, Austin and Joy purchased a parcel in Washington County for $140,000. For that price in that area, I imagine it bought a fairly decent house. That was the only parcel I could find in either Washington or Benton counties. I don't know the name of the county to Washington's east, where Fort Rock is located. They may have gone out that way. Maybe @Zella could help?

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Thanks! Nothing there that I could find.

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It would be funny if Austin was a douche who tried to claim Giddyup wasn't his (well, not funny, buuut...). He would get laughed out of court!

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4 hours ago, xwordfanatik said:

Giddyup gets cuter the older he gets.  Hopefully Joy will stay unpregnant at least another year or two.

He doesn't look quite like Norman Fell in those pictures. 

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5 hours ago, Christina87 said:

It would be funny if Austin was a douche who tried to claim Giddyup wasn't his (well, not funny, buuut...). He would get laughed out of court!

Yeah Gideon is the spit of him. I’d bet the baby photos are identical. 

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Giddy is really getting cute!!  His hair looks like it's strawberry blonde.  

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Joy has become that friend from high school (the dining room table in this case) who keeps trying to get you to join her pyramid scheme. Whatever she is trying to sell costs *only* $14/day. 

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Is it a pyramid, like Sister Wife Meri and her ugly LuLaRoe clothes?  I call it LuLaNo, flatters No One.

it seems to me that the rapid weight loss on these kinds of things, are quickly regained and not sustainable.  JMO

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I didn't listen to it - hubby and son are within earshot - what's she shilling? 

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I kinda want to take Joy's email and sign her up on a few mailing lists.   She is a fool for putting that out there.

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Anyone have a burner phone? Although I suspect Joy won't be the one returning the call.

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Based on the comments I read on "health coach" Jessica's Instagram, they're shilling Optavia, a scammy MLM version of NutriSystem. If anyone wants a fun read here are some Consumer Affairs complaints about the program:

Shocking-not-shocking is the theme of poor customer service and difficulty of cancelling once you've signed your life away to the company:

https://www.consumeraffairs.com/nutrition/medifast.html

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Joy probably used to spend more than $14 a day at Chik-Fil-A and thinks it's a bargain.

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