HumblePi November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 1 minute ago, xaxat said: Canada's Immigration Site Keeps Crashing For Some Reason Wow seriously, people are freaking out! So are we. I'm going to take a deep breath and not panic about what to expect. But I'm also considering Canada. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729810
peachmangosteen November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 (edited) 2 minutes ago, KerleyQ said: Hell with that. They should be on the front line of experiencing every single one of his horrendous policies. Unlike the Drumpf cult, they KNEW he was wrong, and they still let their petty little egos take the wheel instead of doing the right thing. So much this. That's what really gets me, they fucking know he's horrible. It's just unfathomable to me. I am scared. Like legitimately scared. I'm going to cry. Edited November 9, 2016 by peachmangosteen 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729811
Keepitmoving November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 I hope ground opens up and swallows Gary Johnson, don't want to EVER see his goofy ass face again. I could see if he had some brain cells that weren't fried, but he's a fucking idiot. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729812
Kromm November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 Just now, JunebugWA said: WA was a Bernie's stronghold. So this is ex-Bernie voters acting pissy and using the anyone-but-Hillary strategy? 26% reported there now and Trump is only up there by 0.9% now. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729813
random chance November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 3 minutes ago, HumblePi said: BUT!! Here's my consolation. IF Trump has lost this election there would have been major anarchy across the country, there would be bloodshed as they promised there would be. There still 'might' be but Democrats are generally not crazy anarchist types so they will accept this as their fate. And if he wins, it's going to be clear really fast that he is not in fact going to build a wall or bring back steel or any of the other fairyland crap he promised them, because he has failed at every single thing he has ever tried except for getting other people to pay for his mistakes. He's very good at that. As they will find out soon enough. 15 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729814
katha November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 Just now, Rosiejuliemom said: If people thought that the pumpkin spice dildo wasn't qualified, why the hell did they vote for him?! I honestly don't know if I'm more confused or angry right now. Protest votes. Good ole misogyny: Knowing that Clinton is more qualified and better, but just being unable to cast the vote for her anyway because of personal prejudice. And there is the reality that many people do feel disenfranchised and left behind and scared, and they probably are, and they're probably right to think that neither Republicans nor Democrats have done much to help them. Along comes a demagogue with easy scapegoats and emotional appeals... 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729815
bref November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 (edited) The markets will plummet under Trump. Futures are down 700 right now. EDIT: Sorry I didn't see how many people answered first. Never mind! Edited November 9, 2016 by bref 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729816
Bastet November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 All these people on PBS talking about how they underestimated just how much people hated Hillary are pissing me right off. Are they new?! 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729818
Rosiejuliemom November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 Just now, katha said: Protest votes. Good ole misogyny: Knowing that Clinton is more qualified and better, but just being unable to cast the vote for her anyway because of personal prejudice. And there is the reality that many people do feel disenfranchised and left behind and scared, and they probably are, and they're probably right to think that neither Republicans nor Democrats have done much to help them. Along comes a demagogue with easy scapegoats and emotional appeals... True. This just enrages me to the point of flames on the side of my face. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729819
MulletorHater November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 I just don't understand how this could happen. The thought of seeing the smug faces of his surrogates tomorrow sickens me. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729820
irisheyes November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 Rachel is starting to lose it on MSNBC. If she's freaking out, then it's time to panic. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729821
InsertWordHere November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 Michigan is getting closer, but it won't matter if Wisconsin goes for Trump. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729823
Kromm November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 1 minute ago, Keepitmoving said: I hope ground opens up and swallows Gary Johnson, don't want to EVER see his goofy ass face again. I could see if he had some brain cells that weren't fried, but he's a fucking idiot. If you've seen him, you know he's REALLY a major dimwit. But to be fair, if it wasn't him, there'd be another 3rd party candidate in his place getting virtually the same protest votes (it didn't matter it was him). Might be Stein, but more likely just another Libertarian. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729824
BuckeyeLou November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 12 minutes ago, Ladyrain said: Because Wall St. hates tRump and all the uncertainty he would bring. The Dow futures are already tanking. I'm worried sick about our 401k; we are newly retired and I'm about to lose it: my mind and my money. Same here, Boomers who are retired...I am worried about what happens with our pension and Social Security. Plus, what kind of awful world is my Grandson going to grow up in? 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729825
HumblePi November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 (edited) 4 minutes ago, random chance said: And if he wins, it's going to be clear really fast that he is not in fact going to build a wall or bring back steel or any of the other fairyland crap he promised them, because he has failed at every single thing he has ever tried except for getting other people to pay for his mistakes. He's very good at that. As they will find out soon enough. The thing that will be clear is that we've lost this democracy, it no longer exists. We may as well be living in Argentina, Crimea, N. Korea or Russia. I would even guess that people will be so nervous about banks failing that there will be a run on the banks. Alarmist maybe, but being forewarned is forearmed. Edited November 9, 2016 by HumblePi Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729826
KerleyQ November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, MulletorHater said: I just don't understand how this could happen. The thought of seeing the smug faces of his surrogates tomorrow sickens me. Ann Coulter. I cannot live in a world where Ann Coulter is happy. That's just not right. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729829
Silly Angel November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 I always wondered, if I had lived during the Nazi ascendancy, I would have have fought back or sat back. I think we're about to find out. Vive la resistance! 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729830
Kromm November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 Just now, InsertWordHere said: Michigan is getting closer, but it won't matter if Wisconsin goes for Trump. Exactly, it won't. I don't even know if some combo of NV and Iowa would counter WI. I don't think it would. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729831
briochetwist November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 29 minutes ago, madmaverick said: It will be very sad to me if Hillary loses because not enough women came out for her. I'm not saying you have to vote for someone because they are a woman but I've never understood why some women perceive her with actual hatred and find someone like Trump with his track record with women preferable. It's incomprehensible to me. Hillary had plenty of admirable qualities for women (and men) to admire. Why didn't more of them connect with her but rather with a horrible person like Trump? Sadly, and I may take flak for this, but a lot of women don't support other women, especially ambitious women. I saw plenty of women around Hillary's age on the news today saying they voted for Trump because they just didn't like Hillary. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729832
Bastet November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 Projection on The Guardian that Hillary narrowly held onto WA. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729833
mojoween November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 Well as much as the sickness I'm currently feeling is different than the one I had that caused me to call in to work today, I do have to go back to work tomorrow and 5 a.m. comes early so off to bed I go. I seriously hope the first alert I see when I pick up my phone tomorrow does not make me throw it against a wall. Even though we all panicked most of the night I'm glad I spent it with you all. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729835
HumblePi November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 Clinton 209 Trump 216m Utah went to Trump Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729836
briochetwist November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 6 minutes ago, HumblePi said: Wow seriously, people are freaking out! So are we. I'm going to take a deep breath and not panic about what to expect. But I'm also considering Canada. I keep seeing this everywhere (as with every election) but I don't think people realize how difficult it is to immigrate to Canada. And right now we're very busy with the Syrian refugees that won't be welcome in the US.... 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729837
aradia22 November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 Damn it, Keepin' It 1600 is very subdued. I can't believe this is happening. This is a joke. It's not a funny one. It's a racist, hateful, misogynist one. And very few people are laughing. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729838
Sophlee November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 King County (Seattle) has been slow to report the votes. They have some sort of problem with the equipment.. Once those votes come in WA will be blue. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729839
HumblePi November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 Just now, mojoween said: Well as much as the sickness I'm currently feeling is different than the one I had that caused me to call in to work today, I do have to go back to work tomorrow and 5 a.m. comes early so off to bed I go. I seriously hope the first alert I see when I pick up my phone tomorrow does not make me throw it against a wall. Even though we all panicked most of the night I'm glad I spent it with you all. goodnight, sleep well I hope Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729840
InsertWordHere November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 Fox just called Wisconsin for Trump. I think it's over. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729842
Keepitmoving November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 (edited) 3 minutes ago, briochetwist said: Sadly, and I may take flak for this, but a lot of women don't support other women, especially ambitious women. I saw plenty of women around Hillary's age on the news today saying they voted for Trump because they just didn't like Hillary. You're not going to get flack from me, I have posted this exact same sentiment multiple times. There's no way in hell she would be losing if she was getting 90 plus percent of the female vote, no way. Edited November 9, 2016 by Keepitmoving 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729843
Spacecow November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 I just can't fucking believe this. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729845
JunebugWA November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 It shouldn't be this close! I don't understand the Christian voters for Trump -- he is anything but a Christian!!!! 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729846
random chance November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 4 minutes ago, HumblePi said: The thing that will be clear is that we've lost this democracy, it no longer exists. We may as well be living in Argentina, Crimea, N. Korea or Russia I only meant, their vote will bite them in the ass too. I know this is bad. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729847
33kaitykaity November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 Just now, InsertWordHere said: Fox just called Wisconsin for Trump. I think it's over. Not if HRC swipes AZ, which is leaning blue. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729848
Kromm November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 Poor (looking stupid now) Nate Silver is running out of intelligent things to put on his site. He calls it 59% chance Trump and 41% Clinton. He's still leaning too far towards Clinton. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729849
HumblePi November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 1 minute ago, briochetwist said: I keep seeing this everywhere (as with every election) but I don't think people realize how difficult it is to immigrate to Canada. And right now we're very busy with the Syrian refugees that won't be welcome in the US.... Canada will welcome you gladly if you have a skill they need and right now they need engineers, doctors and people with chemical engineering degrees Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729850
MulletorHater November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 Look for more Black churches to be burned. I weep for our Latino brothers and sisters. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729853
Kromm November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 (edited) 3 minutes ago, InsertWordHere said: Fox just called Wisconsin for Trump. I think it's over. Fox is the last place to trust. but... the NY Times looks like they're on the verge of calling that too. Florida is gone. Called for Trump. I believe that makes it game over. Nothing changes it now. Edited November 9, 2016 by Kromm 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729854
candall November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 28 minutes ago, Keepitmoving said: My first question before I even begin to associate with anyone on a personal level will be, Who did you vote for in this election? I was thinking today that this was going to be my litmus test for everyone for the rest of my life. Then I wondered whether I would look back at that sentiment and laugh at how I was such a hothead and so passionate about the election. But no, I don't think so. Did you vote for Trump? Or Johnson or Stein? Or fucking write in a name? Bye. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729855
Apprentice79 November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 Just now, JunebugWA said: It shouldn't be this close! I don't understand the Christian voters for Trump -- he is anything but a Christian!!!! They are obsessed with the subject of Abortion and they hate the Clintons.. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729856
MargeGunderson November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 I'm appreciating how thoughtful the folks are on PBS. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729857
backgroundnoise November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 I'm someone who personally will not be that affected by a conservative government. By that I mean, I'm 58, single, straight, no kids, white, and make a decent income. Maybe I'll get a bigger paycheck with tax breaks. If the stock market recovers in the next few years, I'll be fine. I work for a place that self-insures, so my health care won't go away. I doubt there's anything I could be made to do or prevented from doing. My life would go on exactly as before. And I could not be more sick at heart or afraid. 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729858
InsertWordHere November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 Just now, 33kaitykaity said: Not if HRC swipes AZ, which is leaning blue. Can she still win with AZ, NV, PA, and MI? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729859
magdalene November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 CNN just called Florida for Trump. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729861
briochetwist November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 (edited) 5 minutes ago, HumblePi said: Canada will welcome you gladly if you have a skill they need and right now they need engineers, doctors and people with chemical engineering degrees Where are you getting that information? I don't mean to rain on your parade, but that simply isn't true. It's difficult to get in here, it's common knowledge, it's on the news all the time because so many Americans threaten to move here. And you would have better luck if you were part of a commonwealth country. Edited November 9, 2016 by briochetwist Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729863
Chicken Wing November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 Fucking fuckity fuck, what happened???? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729864
33kaitykaity November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 1 minute ago, InsertWordHere said: Can she still win with AZ, NV, PA, and MI? Yes. Play with this 270towin map and see. http://www.270towin.com/ 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729865
Silly Angel November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 1 minute ago, MulletorHater said: Look for more Black churches to be burned. I weep for our Latino brothers and sisters. And for African-Americans, Asians, immigrants, women, LGBT citizens... It occurred to me that my Native boyfriend will be one of the few people allowed to stay here, but then I realized that won't be the way it works. Florida is gone. That's it. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729866
aradia22 November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 Oh God. Like, I really can't, guys. The only thing getting me through the last few months was the assurance that after today I wouldn't have to see his horrible orange face on the TV all the damn time. I was supposed to be able to focus on something else and get my life back on track after today. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729867
AmandaPanda November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 1 minute ago, InsertWordHere said: Can she still win with AZ, NV, PA, and MI? She needs all four of those states, plus 8 more electoral votes from somewhere. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729872
ChromaKelly November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 I know. My husband has Colbert on and I just can't laugh. There's nothing funny. I just don't want to be in this country anymore. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729873
MargeGunderson November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 (edited) Dow is now down 1000 points - and it's not even over. Edited November 9, 2016 by MargeGunderson Terror is affecting my grammar. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49977-live-chat-election-night-2016-1182016/page/20/#findComment-2729874
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