Season 1 Discussion

[jumper sage]

Best line in the show is by Mo, "This is not your house, you do not have the key".  Oh it is her house in terms of you.  Who the hell does he think he is.  We really want him in our country?

I have a different attitude towards Israel now.  Talk about different cultures.

The Jamaican sisters had me cracking up.  Even they think the US chicky is nuts.  I would so watch them on the People's Couch.

[Cherrio]

1 hour ago, ChaChaSlide said:

And screw Melanie for the shade thrown towards Devar's sisters, "this house is so nice--what do you do?". That is so rude and so inappropriate to ask to women you have never met before.

Laughing at Melanie was equally as bad. Of course the house could be a rent by the day deal paid for by TLC.  The whole family seems very sketchy to  me.

[jumper sage]

1 minute ago, Cherrio said:

Laughing at Melanie was equally as bad. Of course the house could be a rent by the day deal paid for by TLC.  The whole family seems very sketchy to  me.

I thought it looked like apartments and Melanie just thought it was a single family home.

[Neurochick]

1 hour ago, Verojama said:

Dani wants mo back, thats why no annulment.. she thinks he will say all these women were nothing i realized you are the one for me but she is dreaming colors....

Correct.  Dani is trying to say the marriage wasn't real; that Mo used her for the green card.  But if a judge watches this show, they'll say, "how can you ask for an annulment when you're acting as if the marriage is real?"

She wants them to "work on their marriage?"  But if the whole thing was fraud, then what does she want him to work on? Why is she even bothering to see him?  Oh, right:  Reality show/TLC paycheck.

Those two will stay together forever, as long as TLC is willing to film them.  Who knows, they might get their own show.

I think Melanie has zero class, and she's starting to look like Bev now, a female Archie Bunker.

Edited October 17, 2016 by Neurochick

[Landlord]

24 minutes ago, jumper sage said:

I thought it looked like apartments and Melanie just thought it was a single family home.

Same here, when they went far out the back to go in a set of stairs. 

[islandgal140]

When Mo's Walmart friend made the observation that every woman Mo gets involved with turns into a disaster, there was a bit of a pause and I half expected him to say: "so why not try men instead {wink}." LOL! Mo's red watery eyed friend really needs to just be a sympathetic ear to Mo but stay out of their business. Going to Dani next week to tell her to get the divorce - GTFOH! If I was Dani, I would bring new meaning to the term (walmart) Rollback if he cracked his lips to intervene on my marriage.

I've always been a bit amused by the Mo/Dani situation and on occasion have felt on some level felt a bit for Mo for having to deal with Dani (due to her financial situation & utter neediness) but that ended completely last night. When he sat across from Dani and stated with a straight face that Dani should withdraw the annulment and give him a divorce because she OWED HIM!  I wanted to reach into the screen, grab him by his greasy hair and pound his head into a cement block until I reached gray matter. Owed him for what exactly?!? He really is a piece of shit and I hope that he does get deported and if that doesn't happen I hope that he has to stay married and live with Danielle - because that punishment would fit the crime. 

Mo is a complete liar, manipulator and user but Danielle, although not the complete and utter dullard she portends to be, is so willfully blind and stupid that she would take him back in a heartbeat. 

1 minute ago, jumper sage said:

I thought it looked like apartments and Melanie just thought it was a single family home.

I thought it looked like apartments too. That kitchen was awfully small and cramped for a house that size.  It is just so rude to ask someone upon meeting what they do for a living after commenting on the niceness of their house. Melanie looked like she just came from a 2 hour workout at the gym to meet Devar's family for the 1st time. 

Just when I thought Loren and Alexei were boring. Damn, Alexei must be some sort of special unicorn of a person because he sure inspires a lot of strong emotions in people. His parents can't live or do anything without him, his brother has a breakdown, his mom can't stop crying and now his friends feel so abandoned by him leaving that they now completely shun him! I guess they don't want to let him back into their hearts again because he will only break again LOL!

It sounds as if Alexei left without saying so much as a goodbye to his friends and hasn't bothered to stay in contact. Granted I'd be pissed if someone I considered a good friend did that to me too but I don't know if I would go to the extreme these so-called friends are.  And hand-delivered invitations? Ain't nobody got time for that! Maybe it is cultural?

I really want to know how Loren and Alexei have the money to pay for a wedding in Israel with 100 guests. Her parents don't look well off and we know his aren't and that venue did not look cheap. 

[LocalGovt]

Am I posting in the right place??? This is in regards to the "where are they now" whatever it's called -- the 2nd half of the Season 4 shows that deals with people from Season 3.

I am baffled by Devar's older sisters. Do they live together?  Is the masseusse also a paid escort?  Even Melanie was intrigued as to how they could afford such a nice house.

Why didn't Melanie ask them why they were not financially supporting Punkisha?

[happy hobo]

1 hour ago, jumper sage said:

 

The Jamaican sisters had me cracking up.  Even they think the US chicky is nuts.  I would so watch them on the People's Couch.

I saw that and flashed back to the (movie) version of "The Odd Couple" and the "Pidgeon Sisters". 

[greekmom]

2 hours ago, jumper sage said:

Best line in the show is by Mo, "This is not your house, you do not have the key".  Oh it is her house in terms of you.  Who the hell does he think he is.  We really want him in our country?

I have a different attitude towards Israel now.  Talk about different cultures.

The Jamaican sisters had me cracking up.  Even they think the US chicky is nuts.  I would so watch them on the People's Couch.

Well, she opened the "door" to that house of the good ol' US of A.   So she does have the keys.

[Neurochick]

1 hour ago, islandgal140 said:

It sounds as if Alexei left without saying so much as a goodbye to his friends and hasn't bothered to stay in contact. Granted I'd be pissed if someone I considered a good friend did that to me too but I don't know if I would go to the extreme these so-called friends are.  And hand-delivered invitations? Ain't nobody got time for that! Maybe it is cultural?

Good point.  Maybe it is cultural.   In the US, the attitude is that when a person gets married, their life changes, they don't have the same amount of time to spend with their friends/family as they did when they were single.  Maybe it's because the US is geared more toward the individual rather than the collective. 

[Aw my lahgs]

3 minutes ago, greekmom said:

Well, she opened the "door" to that house of the good ol' US of A.   So she does have the keys.

Exactly! The only reason he is allowed here is his marriage to Danielle.

[Jennifersdc]

We all know Danielle ain't too bright - but has somebody fully explained to her what an annulment is? Did she not understand? She's ruining her annulment  case/argument by begging Mohamed to "work on their marriage" on national TV. She's basically admitting there was an actual marriage. 

I loved Devar's sisters and them cackling at Melanie for paying all the bills. I don't think much get by those two - including refusing to support lazy ne'er do well sister. Melanie was incredibly rude asking what they did right off the bat - it was obvious they were living in an apartment in that big house. I would think a house that size would have a bigger/nicer kitchen and a separate dining room.

[stillhere1900]

6 hours ago, parisprincess said:

Before Danielle went to meet Mo, she said something about getting fixed up so he would see what he was missing. Well, I don't know what miracle she and her daughter expected to perform, but she looked as unkempt as she always does. As for Mo, he should be looking for another woman to pay his way now that the blonde has dumped him; at least until he is (hopefully) sent back to Tunisia.

hahahahahahahahaha. OMG! hahahahahaha  "See what he's missing" hahahahahahaha

3 hours ago, Kickboxer said:

What?! I missed it dammit. They are my favorite love to hate 'couple'.

[Cini]

Danielle doesn't just hold the keys, she is the key that opened the US to Mohammed

[Hero]

I'm Palestinian, and when I was in Palestine, we hand delivered invitations. It's a small town, and we hand delivered to our friends and family, who were very close by, and the rest were word of mouth. 

[islandgal140]

8 minutes ago, Cini said:

Danielle doesn't just hold the keys, she is the key that opened the US to Mohammed

For real.  If she didn't hold the key his ass wouldn't be asking for her to withdraw her annulment petition. 

Mo to Dani: "You killed everything inside me." Now that's brutal! But it didn't kill his will to grift and scam women. Peep this. With Walmart friend: Mo says he's not with any women friends ... anymore. LOL! 

The fact that marrying Matt is an 'opportunity' for Alla and her son speaks volume. I find Alla's English to be pretty good - not the best - but pretty good so not buying the broken English excuse. Seems easier to say you came to the US to be with the man you love as opposed to its a great opportunity. 

Max is super cute. Him speaking the new English words/phrases he learned to his auntie was adorable. 'What is your name?' Cute!

[winsomeone]

I hope that Max knows more English now, and that he is attending school somewhere.

[seacliffsal]

I guess my take is a bit different regarding Alexi and Loren.  It sounds like he left without much communication and hasn't kept in touch.  Then, over a year later, he and Loren are having a second wedding that they expect his friends to attend.  So, without keeping in touch with his friends, the friends are expected to buy gifts and attend a wedding for a couple who are already married and had a big wedding in the U.S.  I, too, would be all "um, no thanks..."  I would totally go to a big party or something, but not an event for which there are very expectations and which serves absolutely no purpose other than to replicate their previous ceremony to which I probably wasn't invited.  I know that Loren keeps telling us that she wants Alexi's friends and family to share in a wedding ceremony but that ship actually already sailed.  

And, I must just be grumpy as I don't feel sorry for Alla at all.  She stated that she wanted the opportunities available in the U.S.  So, she's here.  Have at it.

While I find Mo to be a scammer, Dani is no innocent.  A bit of her temper came out and she stated that she will sit in front of the front door so that Mo can't leave the apartment.  I think she knows how to play to the cameras and present her 'oh poor me' persona, but I think there is some truth in what Mo says about their marriage.

It's also interesting to me that both Paola and Anfisa have hired photographers for photo shoots and think that will be enough to give them glamorous careers as models.  Hope Jorge wakes up, realizes the cat is his best bet for a life partner, and sends Anfisa back to Russia.  That would be so awesome to watch...

[ChristmasJones]

2 hours ago, islandgal140 said:

The fact that marrying Matt is an 'opportunity' for Alla and her son speaks volume. I find Alla's English to be pretty good - not the best - but pretty good so not buying the broken English excuse. Seems easier to say you came to the US to be with the man you love as opposed to its a great opportunity.

This jumped out at me. She seemed to be in a relaxed, unguarded moment when she said it, too, so I took it to be an honest comment.

[Landlord]

1 hour ago, seacliffsal said:

I guess my take is a bit different regarding Alexi and Loren.  It sounds like he left without much communication and hasn't kept in touch.  Then, over a year later, he and Loren are having a second wedding that they expect his friends to attend.  So, without keeping in touch with his friends, the friends are expected to buy gifts and attend a wedding for a couple who are already married and had a big wedding in the U.S.  I, too, would be all "um, no thanks..."  I would totally go to a big party or something, but not an event for which there are very expectations and which serves absolutely no purpose other than to replicate their previous ceremony to which I probably wasn't invited.  I know that Loren keeps telling us that she wants Alexi's friends and family to share in a wedding ceremony but that ship actually already sailed.  

And, I must just be grumpy as I don't feel sorry for Alla at all.  She stated that she wanted the opportunities available in the U.S.  So, she's here.  Have at it.

While I find Mo to be a scammer, Dani is no innocent.  A bit of her temper came out and she stated that she will sit in front of the front door so that Mo can't leave the apartment.  I think she knows how to play to the cameras and present her 'oh poor me' persona, but I think there is some truth in what Mo says about their marriage.

It's also interesting to me that both Paola and Anfisa have hired photographers for photo shoots and think that will be enough to give them glamorous careers as models.  Hope Jorge wakes up, realizes the cat is his best bet for a life partner, and sends Anfisa back to Russia.  That would be so awesome to watch...

But at least, Paola's photog had her do a few different outfits for her portfolio, even if they were all bikinis. Anfisa had one outfit, how many pics from one photoshoot can she fit in her "portfolio" without looking like a complete moron when she does appointments to agencies (I forget how Tyra Banks would call them in ANTM)

Now that I think of it, I never saw a repeat of a single photo in a portfolio in ANTM. 

Enter Anfisa, going to an agency to get booked, showing up with half a book of selfies, the other half of her in one single outfit. Not very professional. Nor serious. 

[Virtually Me]

19 hours ago, Jennifersdc said:

We all know Danielle ain't too bright - but has somebody fully explained to her what an annulment is? Did she not understand? She's ruining her annulment  case/argument by begging Mohamed to "work on their marriage" on national TV. She's basically admitting there was an actual marriage. 

She ruined her annulment case months ago.  It's so bad, I don't know why she's filed for it not once, but twice.  She testified legally more than once that she did not believe her marriage was a fraud.  She's even solicited the "mistresses" for dollars.  That won't help her case.

18 hours ago, Suzy123 said:

I'm Palestinian, and when I was in Palestine, we hand delivered invitations. It's a small town, and we hand delivered to our friends and family, who were very close by, and the rest were word of mouth. 

Hi, sister.  I'm Palestinian, too.

 

20 hours ago, greekmom said:

Well, she opened the "door" to that house of the good ol' US of A.   So she does have the keys.

She doesn't have them anymore.

[Toaster Strudel]

6 minutes ago, Virtually Me said:

She ruined her annulment case months ago.  It's so bad, I don't know why she's filed for it not once, but twice.  She testified legally more than once that she did not believe her marriage was a fraud.  She's even solicited the "mistresses" for dollars.  That won't help her case.

The marriage was real to her... and sadly, still is.  But she posted on FB that even her daughters said he came for love.  She's wrong... and the daughters probably never said that...

I guess the whole episode was super-confusing to her two half-working brain cells.

[Virtually Me]

1 minute ago, Toaster Strudel said:

The marriage was real to her... and sadly, still is.  But she posted on FB that even her daughters said he came for love.  She's wrong... and the daughters probably never said that...

I guess the whole episode was super-confusing to her two half-working brain cells.

Well, she is a marriage novice.  I'll give her that.

[thejuicer]

4 hours ago, Landlord said:

Enter Anfisa, going to an agency to get booked, showing up with half a book of selfies, the other half of her in one single outfit. Not very professional. Nor serious. 

Agreed. However Anfisa's best bet for any work at all is low brow lingerie shots. And let's face it - porn. Gisele Bundchen she is not. 

[magemaud]

I thought it was strange how when Melanie met Devar's second sister she said "And you're?" like Devar had never told her his sisters' names! I had to chuckle when they said "We never thought he'd marry a white lady" and the camera cuts to practically purple faced Melanie! I also suspect the older sisters are not at all related to lazy Pankesha. 

[realitymaven]

21 hours ago, islandgal140 said:

Going to Dani next week to tell her to get the divorce - GTFOH! If I was Dani, I would bring new meaning to the term (walmart) Rollback if he cracked his lips to intervene on my marriage.

LOL, I would like to see that. 

 

11 hours ago, Virtually Me said:

She ruined her annulment case months ago.  It's so bad, I don't know why she's filed for it not once, but twice.  She testified legally more than once that she did not believe her marriage was a fraud. 

It's not ruined although it may well be if she doesn't hire a lawyer and stop trying to represent herself. 

[Major Bigtime]

It's runied because she keeps saying she wants to save her marriage. An annulment is based on the fact there never was a real marriage, but a sham. You can't save something that never was, if you want an annulment.

[realitymaven]

3 minutes ago, Major Bigtime said:

It's runied because she keeps saying she wants to save her marriage. An annulment is based on the fact there never was a real marriage, but a sham. You can't save something that never was, if you want an annulment.

I had a client once who had unhelpfully told the arresting officer: "You got me, I'm guilty". The judge pointed that out in court. I said that my client was not a lawyer.  While his moral admission of guilt was admirable, it didn't meet the legal test. He wasn't legally guilty (yes he was acquitted)

Danielle could proclaim her belief in Santa Claus time after time, under oath and it would not be determinative of the truth. As sister Sara pointed out on the show: "Mohamed wanted a better life. He married my sister to get a Green Card. Everyone on the planet can see that. Except Danielle".  Now, maybe, after her two functioning brain cells have started functioning perhaps Danielle finally realizes it too. If she does, if it's not another ploy, then she's off to the races. 

[Major Bigtime]

They should put Dani and Mamma June together on a show to commiserate about the men who've done them wrong. Then they can go slurp a bowl of sketti.

[Hero]

3 hours ago, Virtually Me said:

She ruined her annulment case months ago.  It's so bad, I don't know why she's filed for it not once, but twice.  She testified legally more than once that she did not believe her marriage was a fraud.  She's even solicited the "mistresses" for dollars.  That won't help her case.

Hi, sister.  I'm Palestinian, too.

Hello!! :)

[realitymaven]

20 hours ago, islandgal140 said:

LOL! Mo's red watery eyed friend really needs to just be a sympathetic ear to Mo but stay out of their business. Going to Dani next week to tell her to get the divorce - GTFOH!

That really looked brutal, didn't it? Danielle is unarmed in a battle of wits with one guy, much less two.

[Arwen Evenstar]

10 hours ago, Major Bigtime said:

They should put Dani and Mamma June together on a show to commiserate about the men who've done them wrong. Then they can go slurp a bowl of sketti.

I'd so watch that!

Damn, I really need to find a job soon...I spend way too much time on this forum and others on PTV...though I do appreciate the daily company.

[Kath94]

And, of course, attempting to "scare him back" to you is ALWAYS a firm foundation to a relationship.

[Toaster Strudel]

11 minutes ago, Kath94 said:

And, of course, attempting to "scare him back" to you is ALWAYS a firm foundation to a relationship.

That's how you know that from the onset, she used the green card as a lure, and believed that he would be forever beholden to her in gratitude.  Two years later... she's still using the green card as a lure to "scare him back."

[nlkm9]

20 hours ago, Major Bigtime said:

It's runied because she keeps saying she wants to save her marriage. An annulment is based on the fact there never was a real marriage, but a sham. You can't save something that never was, if you want an annulment.

so this makes me curious--how important is it if the marriage isnt consummated--i dont think they have had sex since they were married--so she may think she loves him--but if the marriage wasnt consummated isnt that grounds for annullment? I mean he wouldnt even kiss her on their wedding day...

[Major Bigtime]

It was undoubtedly the longest observance of Ramadan in history.

[Miss Chevious]

It's still Ramadan for Mo as far as Dani is concerned. And I suspect it'll always be as I seriously doubt Dani will be able to bewitch him with her sultry seductiveness back into her web of poverty and bad hair dye.

[magemaud]

He's observing his own holiday, "Ramadanielle" 

[realitymaven]

If someone enters a marriage with a concealed intention to withhold sex, then that's grounds for annulment. Marriage is a contract: I don't think Danielle contracted for "no sex" going in. And i don't think Mo advertised it either, lol.

[realitymaven]

9 hours ago, Toaster Strudel said:

That's how you know that from the onset, she used the green card as a lure, and believed that he would be forever beholden to her in gratitude.

Interesting to see Nicole (Danielle 2.0) doing the same. 

[Bunnygirl]

49 minutes ago, magemaud said:

He's observing his own holiday, "Ramadanielle" 

BEST POST OF THE WEEK!!!

[magemaud]

14 minutes ago, Bunnygirl said:

BEST POST OF THE WEEK!!!

Oh, thank you! I was afraid I might offend somebody! 

[hatchetgirl]

Alexei... Seriously, what kind of people are your friends?  Me thinks he broke a few hearts or something. 

[NoSpam]

1 hour ago, hatchetgirl said:

Alexei... Seriously, what kind of people are your friends?  Me thinks he broke a few hearts or something. 

I dunno. Sounds like he left without saying goodbye, didn't talk to them or keep in touch for two years, then showed up with a gift grabbing invitation.

And someone please tell Loren that her first wedding, let alone her second,  isn't important to anyone but her. She's so obsessed... She acts like it's going to bring world peace. 

[TVwatcher35]

On 10/10/2016 at 8:00 AM, Lesia said:

Alexei is speaking a mixture of Russian and Ukrainian with his family.  I think the need to translate is into/from Hebrew.  Not sure if the parents speak it or not.

Paola, Paola.  You will not be a model of any kind.  You are too short and too stocky.  Stick to NASCAR appearances.  And leave your drag of a hubby.

Thank you. I was wondering what they were speaking because I know it doesn't sound like Hebrew. I suspected Russian. I wonder why they never mentioned that (or maybe I missed it).

On 10/11/2016 at 9:42 AM, gunderda said:

But it's better than Oklahoma for her!! There's are least some sort of 'scene' there.  I was actually shocked that he may have had an interview outside of oklahoma. Maybe manufacturered, maybe not.

I felt bad for Alexi - no one should have their parents guilt trip them that bad.  And every time they did that or when Loren mentioned them coming to live in the US I wanted to yell "WHAT ABOUT THE BROTHER".  Was he even there?? They acted like he was dead. 

If Mo is coming back to Ohio what does that mean for the scene where Danielle calls the cops on him?? I think we all assumed that was down in Miami but guess not?

This was the first episode I felt Noon was a little immature. Just assuming getting a green card back is easy, or that she didn't really care.  I understand her wanting to be near her parents when her father is ill but what is he suppose to do? Go be a farmer I guess. 

I also thought that scene was in Miami. Who knows anymore with the editing!

10 hours ago, nlkm9 said:

so this makes me curious--how important is it if the marriage isnt consummated--i dont think they have had sex since they were married--so she may think she loves him--but if the marriage wasnt consummated isnt that grounds for annullment? I mean he wouldnt even kiss her on their wedding day...

Edit - I just realized my reply to this was a social media spoiler so I will post it in the social media spoiler thread instead.

Edited October 19, 2016 by TVwatcher35

[Verojama]

Didnt mo have sex with dani in doba already?

[nlkm9]

1 hour ago, Verojama said:

Didnt mo have sex with dani in doba already?

in cases of anullment its about what happened during the legal marriage, thats why I asked. doesnt matter what happend before..

[NoSpam]

1 hour ago, nlkm9 said:

in cases of anullment its about what happened during the legal marriage, thats why I asked. doesnt matter what happend before..

And if they did have sex prior to the marriage, I'd think it strengthens her claim of fraud. He gave her the impression that he wanted a normal marriage, then once he was here he refused to do it.

[gunderda]

I can't feel bad for Alex if he left the country without even saying goodbye to his good friends AND didnt even keep in contact with them over the past couple of years.  Hellooooooo facebook anyone??? And how do you not even tell your friends that you're leaving the country!?

On 10/17/2016 at 1:59 PM, winsomeone said:

I hope that Max knows more English now, and that he is attending school somewhere.

Most likely.  My cousin adopted a 5-6 year old boy from Congo and he became fluent in English pretty darn fast.  I think he could understand it a little bit before he came over.  I would imagine Max was the same since his mom could speak English pretty well. 

[happy hobo]

17 hours ago, magemaud said:

He's observing his own holiday, "Ramadanielle" 

And it's song is : Rama-dama-ding-dong