Jill, Derick & the Kids: Moving On!!

[ginger90]

Not that it applies, because I’m not there........first born children can regress when the second comes along. ? 

[graefin]

1 hour ago, rainclouds said:

Was this discussed? Izzy asking Derick who will take care of him, since mommy won't wake up? Does Jill sleep in or spend the day in bed? I find this weird. 

 

 

I don't. The Duggars used to stay up late and wake up late (like noon?), so it would not surprise me in the least if she's retained those habits. It also wouldn't surprise me if she put her own needs ahead of those of her kids. She's the most Michelle-like of all the daughters, in my opinion.

Edit: I should clarify to say that "weird," yes. Surprising, no.

Edited September 15, 2018 by graefin

[doodlebug]

1 hour ago, rainclouds said:

Was this discussed? Izzy asking Derick who will take care of him, since mommy won't wake up? Does Jill sleep in or spend the day in bed? I find this weird. 

 

Isn’t that just ducky? Israel is already a very anxious kid, a worrier.  Whether nature or nurture, he is who he is. So what does Dillwad do?  When Israel expresses his concern that his father is going to leave him with his sleeping mother, something that obviously makes him even more nervous, Dillwad feeds his anxiety to the point where he is cowering under the desk which we’ve already seen is Israel’s safe space when his idiot parents deliberately heighten his fears rather than alleve them.  And films it and puts it online for the world to see.  Way to parent there, a**hole. 

My new mantra is ‘Free Israel’.

[Catfin]

1 hour ago, ginger90 said:

Not that it applies, because I’m not there........first born children can regress when the second comes along. ? 

You bet! DD was trained right at three. Two weeks later, her little brother came along and suddenly pull-ups were needed again.  It made me realize that perhaps *I* had been trained to read her cues and get her to the bathroom in time.  Distraction with the new baby wasn’t allowing me to stay on top of it.  Fast forward to 2018, she’s off at college with no issues. ?

[graefin]

45 minutes ago, doodlebug said:

Isn’t that just ducky? Israel is already a very anxious kid, a worrier.  Whether nature or nurture, he is who he is. So what does Dillwad do?  When Israel expresses his concern that his father is going to leave him with his sleeping mother, something that obviously makes him even more nervous, Dillwad feeds his anxiety to the point where he is cowering under the desk which we’ve already seen is Israel’s safe space when his idiot parents deliberately heighten his fears rather than alleve them.  And films it and puts it online for the world to see.  Way to parent there, a**hole. 

My new mantra is ‘Free Israel’.

I think for as much as these people parrot "children are a blessing from the lord," they don't take their needs seriously. They do nothing to address Israel's concerns. Derick does say, "I think she'll wake up" and tells Israel that he can stay home and "do school" with Jill, but he does so while towering over Izzy awkwardly while Jill is filming. Then Izzy runs off and Jill, instead of talking to Israel about his feelings of insecurity, of course decides to make it all about showcasing #bestpapaever by forcing Izzy to answer "what does Daddy do for you in the morning?", continuing even after Izzy says (for the second time) "bye." As someone else posted, these two are terrible at reading their kids' cues, unlike Jessa and Ben, and it's clear damage has already been done.

In any case, if Derick has been the one getting Israel breakfast and putting movies on for him in the morning, obviously they get up before Jill. I'd assume now that Derick is in school full time, Jill is being forced to drag herself up earlier. Then again, you know what they say about "ass-u-me"! It's also interesting that Izzy appears more bonded to Derick as a caretaker. (It probably helps that he isn't the one constantly forcing him to perform for the camera.)

[queenanne]

12 hours ago, cmr2014 said:

I will have to respectfully disagree with you here. Early childhood education is critical. If children don't learn how to read well in first and second grade, they will struggle for the rest of their school years. Children develop a love of learning (or fail to do so) early on, and a large part of that comes from their early experiences.

It's not just that Jill is dumb and uneducated -- which she is -- it's also that there is no indication that Jill has any talent for teaching. Some people are natural teachers, others aren't; I'm sure we all have teachers in our pasts who we remember with tremendous fondness for their ability to make algebra make sense, or who made history come alive, or who finally made sense of what adverbs were. That's not Jill.

Jill also has no understanding of early childhood development. We see this over and over with her assigning tasks to Izzy that aren't age appropriate (memorize this verse from Acts!). She and Derick also seem (to me) to be very punishment oriented and are far more comfortable reprimanding than encouraging.

I agree with the other posters who say Derick doesn't give a shit about those boys -- he's 100% about Derick. I do think, though, that when they start embarrassing him -- when his colleagues find out that they can't read or add, that they don't know what a cell or a molecule is, and that they can't find the US on a map -- he might start thinking about public school.

I was trying to avoid the "homeschooling parents are always inadequate and the only qualified teacher is the one who's been through a master's degree program" homeschooling wars (not the case - a doofus educator somewhere along the way thought that I was being "lazy" in math because I'm so gifted verbally, and when I changed schools, he sent me from my struggle in improper fractions to the second half of 7th grade advanced algebra, from which I never recovered - "WTF are letters doing in the middle of my numbers?  "Solve for X"?!?!?!!!), but I take your point.

8 hours ago, cmr2014 said:

I also see Izzy looking lost and fearful. In the slide video that Jessa posted, he says over and over "look at me, look at me!" He doesn't look happy and carefree, he looks fearful and in desperate need of affirmation. It may just be his personality, but I really don't think he gets any positive reinforcement at home, and I don't think that's going to improve.

Well, some of that is the age, I think; but we know why Izzy in particular does it, because Jill has shown it in video after video.  He asks her questions or makes a comment or observation; Jill responds without even looking at him, continuing to stare straight ahead at the video camera.

3 hours ago, graefin said:

He obviously regards her highly enough to entrust his children's education to her?

Yeah, I think any thoughts that Derick thinks Jill might be inadequate in any way, are projection or wishful thinking on the part of the posters ascribing him. 

I think the Duggars have a homeschooling spiel they lay on people which goes "parents have been teaching their children from time immemorial, and for hundreds of years they did just as well as these qualified teachers, regardless of the level of education of the parent!  One-on-one attention, and all that!"

I also think Derick is, not to put too fine a point on it, still dazzled by the fact that Jill is a real live woman present and willing to have sex with him; in short, he's whipped.

[Lukeysboat]

That video is strange on many levels. Why is Izzy worried? Why is Jill so adamant he answer her question when he obviously is uninterested? Why does she post videos of a house that is so messy?

 

But what I noticed most is Derick’s body language with Israel. He stands with arms crossed and then eventually puts his hands in his pockets. He doesn’t show being receptive of Israel. If this were a one-time thing maybe I wouldn’t think much of it, but it seems like this dismissive attitude is the norm. Wouldn’t he pick up his son or sit down with him and assure him that he doesn’t need to worry? It’s just weird. He’s weird. 

[Bethanne]

17 minutes ago, Lukeysboat said:

That video is strange on many levels. Why is Izzy worried? Why is Jill so adamant he answer her question when he obviously is uninterested? Why does she post videos of a house that is so messy?

 

But what I noticed most is Derick’s body language with Israel. He stands with arms crossed and then eventually puts his hands in his pockets. He doesn’t show being receptive of Israel. If this were a one-time thing maybe I wouldn’t think much of it, but it seems like this dismissive attitude is the norm. Wouldn’t he pick up his son or sit down with him and assure him that he doesn’t need to worry? It’s just weird. He’s weird. 

I wanted to reach through the screen and slap that idiot. How in the world can any compassionate human with an ounce of empathy stand in front of a sweet, earnest, anxious child and not crouch down and reassure him, much less fold him up into a big hug??? His emotional intelligence is so incredibly stunted I can hardly believe it. 

[Celia Rubenstein]

Derrick surely knows Jill is completely lacking in education. He graduated from college. He has to have seen the deficits in her learning by now. 

Turning the education of his son's over to her is a complete dereliction of his duty as their father. I just don't know if he is doing it as a way to keep Jill busy or if he sees it as a way to make sure his kids never learn to think for themselves or dream of something bigger that he can't control. Maybe it's both. Because as long as the boys are students at their grubby little dining nook table, both the boys and Jill will be busy, under his thumb, and unable to ever really develop the way they might otherwise. 

I suspect that may suit Derrick just fine.

[queenanne]

45 minutes ago, Lukeysboat said:

That video is strange on many levels. Why is Izzy worried? Why is Jill so adamant he answer her question when he obviously is uninterested? Why does she post videos of a house that is so messy?

 

But what I noticed most is Derick’s body language with Israel. He stands with arms crossed and then eventually puts his hands in his pockets. He doesn’t show being receptive of Israel. If this were a one-time thing maybe I wouldn’t think much of it, but it seems like this dismissive attitude is the norm. Wouldn’t he pick up his son or sit down with him and assure him that he doesn’t need to worry? It’s just weird. He’s weird. 

You forgot Jill's "quickly!"  Because children in their world are trained and expected to answer and obey instantly:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/nolongerquivering/2014/06/quoting-quiverfull-the-four-points-of-obedience-for-the-duggar-kids/

From page 44 of the book “Growing Up Duggar” in a section on why children being obedient in all things to the parents is important.

Obedience must be:

Instant. We answer with an immediate, prompt, “Yes ma’am!” or “Yes, sir!” as we set out to obey. (This response is important to let the authority know you heard what he or she asked you to do and that you are going to get it done as soon as possible.) Delayed obedience is really disobedience.

[mythoughtis]

14 hours ago, yogi2014L said:

I hope Cathy 'helps' Jill home school the boys. And by help i mean take over completely. Derrick HAS to understand that Jill is not smart enough to provide adequate education for her kids. They will be stunted for life just like Jill.

Clearing throat. I will be retiring in a few years. I will have a school age grandchild by then.  I’m not about to devote my life to teaching or raising that child while she/he has ‘normal’  living parents. Babysit, yes. Take them on vacation, be with them, yes. But their parents had them and it’s both their responsibility and their right to raise them.

The Duggar parents have shown a history of passing that responsibility to others, such as the sister-Moms, the laundry help, the ‘teacher’-friends, etc. Meanwhile they go around patting themselves on the back for homeschooling them and keeping them at home well into adult years. 

Cathy should not allow herself to get sucked into that vortex. She and her husband deserve to travel,craft, etc while they are healthy. I think she does quite a bit now.  I’m not saying she does too much, but there’s a limit to what she should be expected to do.  

Edited September 15, 2018 by mythoughtis

[winsomeone]

Isn't Jackson dyslexic? I wonder how many of the Duggar kids can't read well because they needed special help with reading, and of course didn't get it? I hope Izzy and Sam don't have any type of learning disability that requires special help for a few years, because they won't get it. Just a shame to waste a mind due to a lack of caring.

[Fostersmom]

5 hours ago, ginger90 said:

I found this to be one of the oddest exchanges from these ninnies.

Also, the title she chose for a video of Samuel, was odd too. “Samuel Dillard flirts with his Momma- August 2018”

One of my nephews was a huge flirt seemingly from birth. So much so, I called him Flirty McGee by the time he was 3. It didn't help he has bright blue eyes and had the blondest hair, stark white at birth, and the face of an angel. He was also the most stubborn child ever and knew how to use those looks too his advantage! So the nickname really fit him. He's also always had a very pretty face for a boy, so much so, when he was about 12 and had really long hair, he was constantly being mistaken for a girl. He's 20 now and while all 3 of my nephews were blond as kids, he's he only one still a blond blond. Still knows how to use those looks too. He recently had a pogo stick accident, yeah at 20, don't ask, and while my sister thought he broke his ankle and was concerned, she also made a point to tell me at least he didn't bash up his pretty face when he went flying across the pavement. Oh, and that the nurses loved him at the ER! I bet they did!

2 hours ago, Lukeysboat said:

That video is strange on many levels. Why is Izzy worried? Why is Jill so adamant he answer her question when he obviously is uninterested? Why does she post videos of a house that is so messy?

 

But what I noticed most is Derick’s body language with Israel. He stands with arms crossed and then eventually puts his hands in his pockets. He doesn’t show being receptive of Israel. If this were a one-time thing maybe I wouldn’t think much of it, but it seems like this dismissive attitude is the norm. Wouldn’t he pick up his son or sit down with him and assure him that he doesn’t need to worry? It’s just weird. He’s weird. 

It's like Jill and Derick don't see their kids as people, they see them as things. I have an evil half sister who had a son as a teen. Not bashing that, my other sister had her first as a teen too, but the evil one never seemed to really talk TO her son. Instead she talked AT him. That's what Jill at Derick do too. They talk AT their kids, don't engage conversation, wait for real answers, or try to expand on things. I've always been one to ask kid questions, make them think and push their little minds. Even stranger kids I see in the elevators here in my apartment complex. Ask them about school, something about the character on their shirt or shoes if they are tiny kids, little kids LOVE talking about their shoes, something to get them to have to think about a real answer beyond yes or no. Hell, I have better conversations with my cat when I get home from work than Jill and Derick do with their kids. He meows at me when I walk in, I reply I know, and ask what happened after that. He meows again. We go back and forth a bit while I'm putting my stuff away, taking my shoes off, turning on lights, that kind of stuff. I'd also bet that when poor little Izzy works up the nerve to ask a question about something, he's either ignored or not really answered. From the time they were little, my nephews had a thousand questions, you never knew where their little minds were going to lead them. Sometimes it would be something they would see, something they didn't understand, something they just wanted to know. I swear they would save all of these random ass questions up just for me too! I'd have to recap for my sister when I took them home just incase they wanted more follow ups from her too. Stuff like why can't we visit Santa, well... where would the plane stop to get more fuel? we needed to be on the same page about! LOL! Others like Aunt, what's between the ground and the clouds? from the 5 year old in the back seat. If there's something there, why can't we see it? Well, that was a science class all in it's self. If they were working her last nerve with the questions, she wasn't above handing them a dialing phone and telling them to ask Aunt since she knew I would do my best to answer. I'm sure if they they do finally answer Izzy instead of ignoring him, the answer is always Jesus or because that's what the Bible says. 

[Zella]

7 hours ago, ginger90 said:

Also, the title she chose for a video of Samuel, was odd too. “Samuel Dillard flirts with his Momma- August 2018”

That's some Motherboy level weirdness right there. 

[graefin]

3 hours ago, queenanne said:

You forgot Jill's "quickly!"  Because children in their world are trained and expected to answer and obey instantly:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/nolongerquivering/2014/06/quoting-quiverfull-the-four-points-of-obedience-for-the-duggar-kids/

 

Oh, yes! She's done the "quickly!" or "hurry up!" so many times now I've lost count. They're filming a video for social media, not rushing to catch a train, for fuck's sake. This puts it in a whole different light. Poor kid.

4 hours ago, Lukeysboat said:

But what I noticed most is Derick’s body language with Israel. He stands with arms crossed and then eventually puts his hands in his pockets.

Yep, and at one point it looked like he let out a sigh (like of frustration or exasperation) and changed his physical stance, as if he were growing weary and merely tolerating Israel's silliness.

What terrible parents.

[ginger90]

New blog post:

 

Israel and Samuel Enjoy Playtime with Papa

Sep 15, 2018 | Family Blog, Photos | 0 

Israel and Samuel always look forward to each evening when Papa (Derick) comes home and they eat supper then get to play for a little bit before bed! This video is from one of those recent play times. Israel’s favorite thing right now is to wrestle. 

 

 

Video:

 

[3 is enough]

After watching the video I wish I could rescue those poor little boys from their horrendous parents.  It just reinforces the fact that is so messed up that you need to get a license to drive a car, operate a business, or get married, but having a raising kids is pretty much a free-for-all. SMH.

These two dimwits should not be allowed to babysit, let alone raise kids.

Edited September 15, 2018 by 3 is enough

[Trillium]

Why is a video of someone playing with their kids  worthy of a monitized blog post? Lots of people post videos of their kids, the difference is they don’t look to profit from them.

[Guest]

I think having Jesus-sanctioned sex, pregnancy bragging rights, and spitting out kids like a pitching machine for the highest possible headcount/married years ratio matters way more than raising the actual kids they have

[latetotheparty]

25 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

New blog post:

 

Israel and Samuel Enjoy Playtime with Papa

Sep 15, 2018 | Family Blog, Photos | 0 

Israel and Samuel always look forward to each evening when Papa (Derick) comes home and they eat supper then get to play for a little bit before bed! This video is from one of those recent play times. Israel’s favorite thing right now is to wrestle. 

 

 

Video:

 

What kind of moron gets kids that riled up right before bedtime? 

[floridamom]

latetotheparty, this was my very thought. My kids were never riled up before bed. It was come down time for them so they would sleep better....and they did. 

[lucy711]

7 hours ago, doodlebug said:

Isn’t that just ducky? Israel is already a very anxious kid, a worrier.  Whether nature or nurture, he is who he is. So what does Dillwad do?  When Israel expresses his concern that his father is going to leave him with his sleeping mother, something that obviously makes him even more nervous, Dillwad feeds his anxiety to the point where he is cowering under the desk which we’ve already seen is Israel’s safe space when his idiot parents deliberately heighten his fears rather than alleve them.  And films it and puts it online for the world to see.  Way to parent there, a**hole. 

My new mantra is ‘Free Israel’.

I have almost no respect for Jill and Derick, but I can't get worked up over this video.  I didn't see a kid cowering under a desk, I saw him hiding, finding something, and coming out giggling.  My toddler does this type of thing all the time.  I've also noticed (from hanging out in my Moms Club), that some kids ask questions like this even if there isn't a problem.  I wouldn't put it past Jill to sleep in late, but I've seen little kids stress about what they are going to eat for dinner and if they will have food even though mom makes them food every evening.  This honestly looks like regular toddler behavior.  I snark a lot on Jilll's parenting, but this to me is no big deal.  The kid is used to dad getting him up, and hopefully Jill will rise to the task and do her part every morning now.

[floridamom]

You know, I just remembered when the producer asked the adult Duggar children how many total birthdays they have celebrated so far....Jill's response was "huh, huh, huh, I leave the math stuff up to Derick". ..Good choice, Derick, in having this person home school your children. I doubt Jill could home school her sons properly past 2nd grade.

I also found it unsettling in that video about Israel being concerned that Jill sleeps in late and no one there to prepare a breakfast for him...the kid hurried in the other room and hid under the desk. Jill determined for an answer, follows him in there, TURNS ON THE LIGHTS, and continues to persist for an answer. I'm sorry, but she's putting silly, undue pressure on her son that just isn't necessary for such a trivial thing. She's determined to get him to comply. How could Derick, who wasn't raised this way not see what's wrong in his own household?

[ginger90]

New recipe post:

 

 

Easy Baked Italian Chicken ‘N Sides

Sep 15, 2018 | Recipes | 3 

My mother-in-law makes this meal frequently, especially when delivering a meal to a friend.  This past week I took meals to two friends of ours so this recipe came in super handy! It’s so simple and tastes delicious!

 

Makes one 9×13″ pan (4-6 servings)

4-6 chicken breasts (depending on size), boneless, skinless, thawed

3-4 potatoes, medium, (or equivalent small red potatoes), washed, cubed

2 cans green beans, or 2-3 cups fresh or frozen green beans

1/2 stick butter (1/4 cup), cut into slices

1 pkg. Italian dressing dry mix

 

Grease 9×13″ pan. Place thawed chicken in middle of pan. Place cubed potatoes to one side of pan and drained green beans to other side of pan. Dot everything with sliced butter. Sprinkle with seasoning package. Bake covered at 450 degrees for 60-90 min (for large chicken breasts), or at 350 for one hour (for small chicken breasts), until internal temperature of chicken reaches at least 160 degrees (doesn’t hurt to be a little over this!).

Note: you can easily substitute potatoes and green beans for other vegetables (e.g. carrots, sweet potatoes, fresh asparagus, etc.)

 

 

[Westiepeach]

6 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

New recipe post:

 

 

Easy Baked Italian Chicken ‘N Sides

Sep 15, 2018 | Recipes | 3 

My mother-in-law makes this meal frequently, especially when delivering a meal to a friend.  This past week I took meals to two friends of ours so this recipe came in super handy! It’s so simple and tastes delicious!

 

Makes one 9×13″ pan (4-6 servings)

4-6 chicken breasts (depending on size), boneless, skinless, thawed

3-4 potatoes, medium, (or equivalent small red potatoes), washed, cubed

2 cans green beans, or 2-3 cups fresh or frozen green beans

1/2 stick butter (1/4 cup), cut into slices

1 pkg. Italian dressing dry mix

 

Grease 9×13″ pan. Place thawed chicken in middle of pan. Place cubed potatoes to one side of pan and drained green beans to other side of pan. Dot everything with sliced butter. Sprinkle with seasoning package. Bake covered at 450 degrees for 60-90 min (for large chicken breasts), or at 350 for one hour (for small chicken breasts), until internal temperature of chicken reaches at least 160 degrees (doesn’t hurt to be a little over this!).

Note: you can easily substitute potatoes and green beans for other vegetables (e.g. carrots, sweet potatoes, fresh asparagus, etc.)

 

 

Ok. I can pretty much smell this. Ewww. Sorry. 

[Fostersmom]

450 degrees for 90 minutes? I like to make sure chicken is cooked, but holy damn. 

[lookeyloo]

This is a very popular type recipe on sites I read.  Fresh green beans work better. Some people use ranch dressing.  But lately if I can't make it in my Instant Pot, I don't want to make it.

[queenanne]

45 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

New recipe post:

 

 

Easy Baked Italian Chicken ‘N Sides

Sep 15, 2018 | Recipes | 3 

My mother-in-law makes this meal frequently, especially when delivering a meal to a friend.  This past week I took meals to two friends of ours so this recipe came in super handy! It’s so simple and tastes delicious!

 

Makes one 9×13″ pan (4-6 servings)

4-6 chicken breasts (depending on size), boneless, skinless, thawed

3-4 potatoes, medium, (or equivalent small red potatoes), washed, cubed

2 cans green beans, or 2-3 cups fresh or frozen green beans

1/2 stick butter (1/4 cup), cut into slices

1 pkg. Italian dressing dry mix

 

Grease 9×13″ pan. Place thawed chicken in middle of pan. Place cubed potatoes to one side of pan and drained green beans to other side of pan. Dot everything with sliced butter. Sprinkle with seasoning package. Bake covered at 450 degrees for 60-90 min (for large chicken breasts), or at 350 for one hour (for small chicken breasts), until internal temperature of chicken reaches at least 160 degrees (doesn’t hurt to be a little over this!).

Note: you can easily substitute potatoes and green beans for other vegetables (e.g. carrots, sweet potatoes, fresh asparagus, etc.)

 

 

Isn't Professor Jilly Muffin already phrasing the above wrong?  The way Jill phrased it, the inclusion of "for" makes it sound like her default dish starts with carrots, sweet potatoes, etc., and you're replacing them with green beans and white potatoes, instead of the other way around.  I'd say either "you can easily swap out potatoes and green beans for [other vegetables]", or "you can easily substitute [replace] potatoes and green beans with [other vegetables]."

Edited September 15, 2018 by queenanne

[BitterApple]

90 minutes at 450 for boneless chicken breasts?!! Good grief, trying to eat one of those things would be like chewing on leather.

Edited September 15, 2018 by BitterApple

[Chicklet]

Why does one have to "drain" fresh or frozen green beans? Why does she want to bake chicken breasts into hockey pucks? Things of the same size tend to cook at the same rate, add the beans and cubed potatoes later, jeez Jill at least watch the Food channel.

[graefin]

Um, are the "sides" supposed to be swimming in liquid? 

And, yes, the substitution sentence should be the other way around, although I've seen others construct the phrase this way also. The way she lists ingredients and measurements is weird too, but what else is new?

Edited September 15, 2018 by graefin

[DangerousMinds]

What's with the "'N?"

Edited September 15, 2018 by DangerousMinds

[JoanArc]

35 minutes ago, queenanne said:

My mother-in-law makes this meal frequently, especially when delivering a meal to a friend.

"We're not friends anymore, Cathy".

[Future Cat Lady]

I pity the poor people who received this dish from Jill. 

[BitterApple]

5 minutes ago, Future Cat Lady said:

I pity the poor people who received this dish from Jill. 

They probably chuck it in the trash and pull up the Uber Eats app two seconds after Jill is out the door. I wouldn't feed that slop to my dog.

[mythoughtis]

Other than the wrong temperature for larger chicken breasts( and a little too long too), this recipe sounds pretty good. I think the basic recipe  is copied from a written recipe Cathy gave her.  There are complete sentences along with words Jill’s never used- place and dot, for example. Jill probably added the veggie substitution language- which is why it’s wrong. 

Edited September 16, 2018 by mythoughtis

[absolutelyido]

48 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

90 minutes at 450 for boneless chicken breasts?!! Good grief, trying to eat one of those things would be like chewing on leather.

Not to mention how mushy canned green beans baked for that long would be.

[graefin]

Oh, and I love green beans, but these people really seem to have an obsession with them to the exclusion of everything else. Other vegetables do exist, Jill.

[ThinkerBell]

4 hours ago, SnarkEnthusiast said:

I think having Jesus-sanctioned sex, pregnancy bragging rights, and spitting out kids like a pitching machine for the highest possible headcount/married years ratio matters way more than raising the actual kids they have

I've always thought this too. Jill likes being pregnant because it fulfills the only role she knows, but resents having to be a nurturing, emotionally invested mother. She seems to focus on the number of babies she might have instead of the two sweet boys she has right now.

[Chicklet]

Reading for comprehension, I was so shocked to see Jill mention FRESH veggies that I missed the mention of the canned veggies, ugh. Shocked, I tell you. How does she know what fresh veggies even look like?

[Rabbittron]

1 hour ago, DangerousMinds said:

What's with the "'N?"

She forgot how to spell the word and.

[Albanyguy]

The chicken dish wouldn't look so unappetizing if she would use less butter and uncover it during the last stage of baking to let the chicken breasts and potatoes brown a little. And why can't she sprinkle some fresh Italian herbs (parsley, oregano, basil) instead of the dry Italian salad dressing mix which is mostly sodium. Oh, who am I kidding? Sodium is her favorite ingredient.

[truthtalk2014]

3 hours ago, ginger90 said:

New recipe post:

 

 

Easy Baked Italian Chicken ‘N Sides

Sep 15, 2018 | Recipes | 3 

My mother-in-law makes this meal frequently, especially when delivering a meal to a friend.  This past week I took meals to two friends of ours so this recipe came in super handy! It’s so simple and tastes delicious!

 

Makes one 9×13″ pan (4-6 servings)

4-6 chicken breasts (depending on size), boneless, skinless, thawed

3-4 potatoes, medium, (or equivalent small red potatoes), washed, cubed

2 cans green beans, or 2-3 cups fresh or frozen green beans

1/2 stick butter (1/4 cup), cut into slices

1 pkg. Italian dressing dry mix

 

Grease 9×13″ pan. Place thawed chicken in middle of pan. Place cubed potatoes to one side of pan and drained green beans to other side of pan. Dot everything with sliced butter. Sprinkle with seasoning package. Bake covered at 450 degrees for 60-90 min (for large chicken breasts), or at 350 for one hour (for small chicken breasts), until internal temperature of chicken reaches at least 160 degrees (doesn’t hurt to be a little over this!).

Note: you can easily substitute potatoes and green beans for other vegetables (e.g. carrots, sweet potatoes, fresh asparagus, etc.)

 

 

That dish really makes me queasy and I'm not even pregnant.  I will say one good thing about it.  It's not four times as much.

I watched a couple of the videos of the stupid couple.  When the cameras go off, there is no way not are not mean,  overbearing and very uncaring parents. Iz definitely seems to be afraid most of the time and Deredick is just an ass with his hands stuffed in his pockets. 

[cmr2014]

I've said this before, but Jill can't cook -- at all.

That would be fine. Lots of people aren't great cooks, and I might not make fun of her for being a bad cook if she 1) hadn't spent her whole life "training" to be a homemaker and 2) didn't blog about cooking.

If she were to simply acknowledge that she isn't very good, and she's learning, I'd cut her some slack, but she's a Duggar, and she's cooked before, so she's an expert!

Day play time is a complete load of bs. I would bet money that this was the inaugural night of "Daddy Play Time" and that it won't be repeated any time soon. Derick really doesn't seem to "have a heart for children."

[queenanne]

35 minutes ago, Albanyguy said:

The chicken dish wouldn't look so unappetizing if she would use less butter and uncover it during the last stage of baking to let the chicken breasts and potatoes brown a little.

Maybe Cathy does, and Jill can't tell the difference.

[Rabbittron]

Is it just me thinking the food is swimming in butter?

[lascuba]

11 hours ago, Celia Rubenstein said:

Derrick surely knows Jill is completely lacking in education. He graduated from college. He has to have seen the deficits in her learning by now. 

Turning the education of his son's over to her is a complete dereliction of his duty as their father. I just don't know if he is doing it as a way to keep Jill busy or if he sees it as a way to make sure his kids never learn to think for themselves or dream of something bigger that he can't control. Maybe it's both. Because as long as the boys are students at their grubby little dining nook table, both the boys and Jill will be busy, under his thumb, and unable to ever really develop the way they might otherwise. 

I suspect that may suit Derrick just fine.

Sure, he graduated from college, but then he became even more religious and eventually sought out a relationship with Jim Bob Duggar, which eventually lead to him falling for and marrying fucking Jill. It's highly likely he sees nothing lacking in Jill's education. 

[louannems]

1 hour ago, cmr2014 said:

I've said this before, but Jill can't cook -- at all.

That would be fine. Lots of people aren't great cooks, and I might not make fun of her for being a bad cook if she 1) hadn't spent her whole life "training" to be a homemaker and 2) didn't blog about cooking.

If she were to simply acknowledge that she isn't very good, and she's learning, I'd cut her some slack, but she's a Duggar, and she's cooked before, so she's an expert!

Day play time is a complete load of bs. I would bet money that this was the inaugural night of "Daddy Play Time" and that it won't be repeated any time soon. Derick really doesn't seem to "have a heart for children."

I cannot even imagine cooking mushy, canned green beans for an hour!  She's trying to cook hard, raw potatoes, raw chicken, and reheating cooked green bean at the same time!

[Zella]

10 minutes ago, lascuba said:

Sure, he graduated from college, but then he became even more religious and eventually sought out a relationship with Jim Bob Duggar, which eventually lead to him falling for and marrying fucking Jill. It's highly likely he sees nothing lacking in Jill's education. 

My theory is that he is aware of it, but that it was a selling point. He would have been exposed to educated women in college, and I imagine he found that intimidating or threatening, which is why he preferred Jill. 

[JoanArc]

4 hours ago, Albanyguy said:

The chicken dish wouldn't look so unappetizing if she would use less butter and uncover it during the last stage of baking to let the chicken breasts and potatoes brown a little.

Jill's cooking does not need more brown.