Jill, Derick & the Kids: Moving On!!

[Madtown]

I'll wait to see what you who have bought the book, say about it before I'll get it. I kind of take the People excerpt like I do with a track from a music group's new album. The track that gets put out as a first single can be really good and gets people to buy the album, then the rest of it sucks. I know from expeirence.
That excerpt was pretty big, so hoping the rest of the book will be really revealing, but it could suck like Jinger's too.

I don't give Derick much credit for anything because he's an ass. I will give him credit for taking her cue of squeezing his hand to not speak. I don't even think my husband could've kept his mouth shut during all that.

 

[dariafan]

BURN it DOWN jill !!!

[satrunrose]

I haven't decided whether I want to reserve a copy yet or not, but I am interested to see more about Michelle in all this. The internet snarker community has been debating for years whether she's the secret brains of the operation (see JiiRod) or trapped like the kids (see Pepsi "addict" Teri Maxwell). From the excerpt, it seems like Michelle was distressed by the confrontation and she does still have at least some relationship with Jill. Maybe she's more of a victim than we thought... or not. I'm interested to see what comes out.

[auntieminem]

In Touch did an article a couple of days ago about JB being mad about changing her way of dressing (wearing pants).  Jill and Derick started going to a different church where women wore pants. Some of her siblings saw her and Derick out and went home and told JB she was wearing pants. He calls her out about it. Jinger was already wearing pants but JB said she called them and gave her biblical reasons why wearing pants was ok.  Huh?  I remember they had an episode where Jinger is talking about with her mom and Jinger actually starts crying. Those kids, especially daughter have been so messed up by JB & Michelle.

I wonder which of Jill's siblings "tattled" to JB?  He thinks he should control how his adult kids dress? It is sad when I first watched the show I just thought that they were a harmless overly fundie family.  My sister was telling me I should watch since they reminded her of a family (with 5 kids) I was good friends with who were very conservative. Yikes, it took me a while before I realized they were not harmless. 

Here is the article.  https://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/jill-duggar-reveals-how-jim-bob-reacted-to-her-wearing-pants-in-book/

[Scarlett45]

I’m sure the sibling reaction to Jill’s book is varied; only Johannah- Josie are still minors, so if the 13 adult kids (minus Josh) there are probably a few that say “it’s about damn time Jill”, a few that think “I understand where she’s coming from but OUCH.” And a few that think “Mom and Dad don’t deserve this our family has been shamed enough.”

I only hope Jill’s desire to speak out is a reflection of her authentic desires and feelings. What disgusts me most about JB (and Michelle) is that they took Jill’s very pure, noble innate sense of duty and nurturing spirit, and USED HER LABOR and then gaslit and manipulated her after she was abused and mistreated. Not that children ever need to earn their parents love (of course they don’t) but it’s got to hurt when you have served your family dutifully and then get treated like scum, where by your actual criminal sibling is held up like a god. 
 

People with personalities like Jill (nurturing, dutiful) have true “servant’s hearts”; but they often have to be more careful not to be mistreated by others because their instinct is to help. Your own parents aren’t someone you should have to protect yourself emotionally from. The emotional betrayal is the hardest part to get over. I hope she comes to a good place. 

[AstridM]

7 hours ago, ozziemom said:

Raises hand to add myself to the group reserving ebook at the library. I wish the best for Jill but not sure she is any better off with Dreck. He seems controlling too.

I’m 259th in line for the book from my library. There seems to be quite a bit of interest. I had zero interest in reading Jinger’s PR piece for McArthur. 

Edited September 10, 2023 by AstridM

[lascuba]

7 hours ago, Madtown said:

I'll wait to see what you who have bought the book, say about it before I'll get it. I kind of take the People excerpt like I do with a track from a music group's new album. The track that gets put out as a first single can be really good and gets people to buy the album, then the rest of it sucks. I know from expeirence.
That excerpt was pretty big, so hoping the rest of the book will be really revealing, but it could suck like Jinger's too.

I don't give Derick much credit for anything because he's an ass. I will give him credit for taking her cue of squeezing his hand to not speak. I don't even think my husband could've kept his mouth shut during all that.

 

I keep thinking back to Jill's best example of how much danger she was in in Danger America...a shower rack falling that she assumed was an intruder. With that in mind, I'm guessing that scene is as revealing as it gets.

[CalicoKitty]

I was just checking Jill's book on Amazon, and there are at least 5 other "biographies" of Jill by various authors, along with a couple of other books.  I guess she has become a hot topic.

[GeeGolly]

5 minutes ago, CalicoKitty said:

I was just checking Jill's book on Amazon, and there are at least 5 other "biographies" of Jill by various authors, along with a couple of other books.  I guess she has become a hot topic.

I hope in the end this is healing for Jill and not something that turns into something too big to manage.

[GeeGolly]

I think I figured out why the excerpts of Jill and Derick's book is making me a tad uneasy - I've never read an outright tell-all book before. I've read plenty of biographies and a few autobiographies, but never a tell-all. Even the books I've read authored by Fundies and/or adults who had horrible childhoods, weren't presented as tell-alls, but as stories of their lives with some harsh realities woven in.

Prince Harry's book (which I didn't read) seemed less about setting the record straight, but more about him being the innocent victim/hero. Harry, much like Derick were neither innocent victims nor heroes. They may have had legitimate grievances, navigated through shitty circumstances and dealt with assholes who held more power than any person should, but airing dirty laundry in the way Harry did in his book and Derick has done on SM is a tad immature, IMO. 

I'm certainly not saying Jill, or anyone else, shouldn't tell their story. I'm just saying I, personally, prefer a story peppered with facts/events rather than facts/events put together to make a story. (if that makes sense)

[Gemma Violet]

On Amazon (Best Sellers), it's currently at No. 7.

It's currently No. 1 in the Television Performer Biographies category.  (Jinger's still hanging on at No. 10.) 

eta:  It's also No. 1 in the Memoirs category.

 

Edited September 11, 2023 by Gemma Violet

[SnapHappy]

Too hilarious....

Best Sellers Rank: #187 in Kindle Store (See Top 100 in Kindle Store)

#1 in Biographies of the Rich & Famous

#1 in Occult Cults & Demonism

#1 in Memoirs (Kindle Store)

 

[GeeGolly]

44 minutes ago, SnapHappy said:

Too hilarious....

Best Sellers Rank: #187 in Kindle Store (See Top 100 in Kindle Store)

#1 in Biographies of the Rich & Famous

#1 in Occult Cults & Demonism

#1 in Memoirs (Kindle Store)

 

Oh Goodness. If JB&M get wind of this they'll turn it into Satan building a fortress around Jill & Derick.

[oliviabenson]

Well I forgot to put the book on hold. Now there are 12 holds on 1 copy. I won’t even bother putting it on hold now.

 

[quarks]

2 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

I think I figured out why the excerpts of Jill and Derick's book is making me a tad uneasy - I've never read an outright tell-all book before. I've read plenty of biographies and a few autobiographies, but never a tell-all. Even the books I've read authored by Fundies and/or adults who had horrible childhoods, weren't presented as tell-alls, but as stories of their lives with some harsh realities woven in.

Prince Harry's book (which I didn't read) seemed less about setting the record straight, but more about him being the innocent victim/hero. Harry, much like Derick were neither innocent victims nor heroes. They may have had legitimate grievances, navigated through shitty circumstances and dealt with assholes who held more power than any person should, but airing dirty laundry in the way Harry did in his book and Derick has done on SM is a tad immature, IMO. 

I'm certainly not saying Jill, or anyone else, shouldn't tell their story. I'm just saying I, personally, prefer a story peppered with facts/events rather than facts/events put together to make a story. (if that makes sense)

This is sort of a sidenote, but I read Prince Harry's book, and while I'd certainly agree that he aired out quite a bit of dirty laundry there, he also didn't present himself as the innocent victim/hero. He admitted to a number of major screwups and took responsibility for a number of things. And it's very clear in the book that he could have said many more things about various family members but chose not to. The entire book reads much less as someone trying to air dirty laundry/family secrets/get revenge, and much more as someone examining his life, and coming to the slow, mature realization that he is part of a toxic, white supremacist, colonialist culture causing major harm, not just to himself but to others. 

I haven't seen much of this same thing from Derick. From Jill, yes, and to a limited extent from Jinger. But not from Derick. And that's leaving aside Derick's history of attacking people who have done absolutely nothing to him - and failing to apologize for any of that. Or challenging any of his inner beliefs. 

But that said, both Harry and Derick did try to resolve things quietly and privately. And it's not just that the quiet, private method didn't work - but that it meant that the challenges to the authority systems here (the Windsors, Jim Bob) were coming largely from outsiders - instead of the more effective insiders.

[GeeGolly]

31 minutes ago, quarks said:

This is sort of a sidenote, but I read Prince Harry's book, and while I'd certainly agree that he aired out quite a bit of dirty laundry there, he also didn't present himself as the innocent victim/hero. He admitted to a number of major screwups and took responsibility for a number of things. And it's very clear in the book that he could have said many more things about various family members but chose not to. The entire book reads much less as someone trying to air dirty laundry/family secrets/get revenge, and much more as someone examining his life, and coming to the slow, mature realization that he is part of a toxic, white supremacist, colonialist culture causing major harm, not just to himself but to others. 

I haven't seen much of this same thing from Derick. From Jill, yes, and to a limited extent from Jinger. But not from Derick. And that's leaving aside Derick's history of attacking people who have done absolutely nothing to him - and failing to apologize for any of that. Or challenging any of his inner beliefs. 

But that said, both Harry and Derick did try to resolve things quietly and privately. And it's not just that the quiet, private method didn't work - but that it meant that the challenges to the authority systems here (the Windsors, Jim Bob) were coming largely from outsiders - instead of the more effective insiders.

Interesting, most of what I've read about Harry's book leaves out his personal growth, although Harry himself has mentioned it in interviews.

Although I do believe Jill has experienced some personal growth, it seems to me her growth has been both accidental and forced, which although good, IMO, doesn't provide the same insight as intentional growth. It appears Harry is determined to nurture his children in ways he wasn't nurtured. I'm not sure Jill is quite there yet.

As for Derick, I think he is very much like his FIL and I see no indication that will change.

[AstridM]

5 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

I think I figured out why the excerpts of Jill and Derick's book is making me a tad uneasy - I've never read an outright tell-all book before. I've read plenty of biographies and a few autobiographies, but never a tell-all. Even the books I've read authored by Fundies and/or adults who had horrible childhoods, weren't presented as tell-alls, but as stories of their lives with some harsh realities woven in.

Prince Harry's book (which I didn't read) seemed less about setting the record straight, but more about him being the innocent victim/hero. Harry, much like Derick were neither innocent victims nor heroes. They may have had legitimate grievances, navigated through shitty circumstances and dealt with assholes who held more power than any person should, but airing dirty laundry in the way Harry did in his book and Derick has done on SM is a tad immature, IMO. 

I'm certainly not saying Jill, or anyone else, shouldn't tell their story. I'm just saying I, personally, prefer a story peppered with facts/events rather than facts/events put together to make a story. (if that makes sense)

I’ll read them both before making any judgments. 

[GeeGolly]

1 minute ago, AstridM said:

I’ll read them both before making any judgments. 

Did you read Jinger's?

I have no problem speculating and judging these books without reading them. I mean I have speculated about and judged the Duggars for years without ever having all the information.

[JennyMominFL]

53 minutes ago, quarks said:

This is sort of a sidenote, but I read Prince Harry's book, and while I'd certainly agree that he aired out quite a bit of dirty laundry there, he also didn't present himself as the innocent victim/hero. He admitted to a number of major screwups and took responsibility for a number of things. And it's very clear in the book that he could have said many more things about various family members but chose not to. The entire book reads much less as someone trying to air dirty laundry/family secrets/get revenge, and much more as someone examining his life, and coming to the slow, mature realization that he is part of a toxic, white supremacist, colonialist culture causing major harm, not just to himself but to others. 

I haven't seen much of this same thing from Derick. From Jill, yes, and to a limited extent from Jinger. But not from Derick. And that's leaving aside Derick's history of attacking people who have done absolutely nothing to him - and failing to apologize for any of that. Or challenging any of his inner beliefs. 

But that said, both Harry and Derick did try to resolve things quietly and privately. And it's not just that the quiet, private method didn't work - but that it meant that the challenges to the authority systems here (the Windsors, Jim Bob) were coming largely from outsiders - instead of the more effective insiders.

Just wanted to say I agree with your assessment of Harry's book which i have also read

[Absolom]

54 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Interesting, most of what I've read about Harry's book leaves out his personal growth, although Harry himself has mentioned it in interviews.

I read Harry's book and I didn't get much personal growth from it at all.  I found a raft load of blame shifting and whining though.  

I'll be surprised if there is a large amount of accepting his failures and personal growth from Derick in the book.  It is supposed to be Jill's book anyway isn't it so maybe my expectations for Derick should be low.

Edited September 11, 2023 by Absolom

[Notabug]

35 minutes ago, Absolom said:

I read Harry's book and I didn't get much personal growth from it at all.  I found a raft load of blame shifting and whining though.  

I'll be surprised if there is a large amount of accepting his failures and personal growth from Derick in the book.  It is supposed to be Jill's book anyway isn't it so maybe my expectations for Derick should be low.

I'm with you, also read Harry's book and found that he talked a lot about how he had grown and matured; only to have him insist that he and his wife had absolutely no responsibility whatsoever in their troubles with his family.  That it was all someone else' fault; they were blameless in everything, everytime.  That's not the way life works, in my experience, and Harry seemed very immature and childish in his insistence that everyone owes him an apology and he owes none.

 

As for Jill, I cannot imagine the amount of strength and personal growth it took for her to publicly come out and call a spade a spade.  Or, in this case, a pedophile a pedophile.  No sugar coating it, just straight to the point.  No talking about how Josh was just 'curious' or 'sly' or how they were asleep through it and it was through their clothing anyway.  However it is that Jill has come to understand just who and what Josh is; she has gotten there, which is more than I can say for most of her siblings.  Good for her.

I agree that Derrick has some really vile beliefs and Jill may share them, but, in his support of her in coming to terms with what happened to her; both her brother's attack of her as well as her parents' indifference to her pain and favoritism to her brother;  he gets applause from me.

[Laura Holt]

2 hours ago, quarks said:

But that said, both Harry and Derick did try to resolve things quietly and privately. And it's not just that the quiet, private method didn't work - but that it meant that the challenges to the authority systems here (the Windsors, Jim Bob) were coming largely from outsiders - instead of the more effective insiders.

I guess this is why so many of us have been hoping one of the kids would really break loose in the way some other cult members have.  Jill may not have gone quite as far as many of us hoped (I can't be the only one who wanted a searing tell all followed by a blockbuster movie) but it is a start.  Maybe by the time the grandkids get old enough we'll finally see a Duggar fronting a heavy metal band or working for Planned Parenthood.

[auntieminem]

Jill posted on IG she and Derick have an interview on GMA tomorrow. They were in NYC recently so they probably recorded it then. Curious what other interviews she has or will be doing.  She is also promoting the People article.  

[auntieminem]

On Reddit someone summarized the People Magazine interview.  The best thing I saw in the summary was the boys are still* in public school.  Also, Jinger and Jeremy are supportive of them.  

* ETA the summary used still but the article said (their older boys attend public school).   That would mean now so I guess there is a possibility they maybe home schooled after the move for a year.   

Edited September 11, 2023 by auntieminem
ETA

[Tasya]

I think JB and Michelle are reprehensible and that excerpt from the book reads like pure fiction dictated by Derrick. Are we truly to believe that Jill, who excused away Josh's abuse and went along with the "we don't even remember it, it was all above our clothes" BS, really stood up to her father that way?

That entire passage just reads very afterschool special. I'm willing to bed that 90% of this book is Derick's interpretation of events. 

[MaryAnneSpier]

11 minutes ago, Tasya said:

I think JB and Michelle are reprehensible and that excerpt from the book reads like pure fiction dictated by Derrick. Are we truly to believe that Jill, who excused away Josh's abuse and went along with the "we don't even remember it, it was all above our clothes" BS, really stood up to her father that way?

That entire passage just reads very afterschool special. I'm willing to bed that 90% of this book is Derick's interpretation of events. 

I absolutely believe it. Jill was newly married when she went on Megyn Kelly's show, so she was barely removed from living under her parents' roof. When you grow up in an oppressive environment where all loyalty is to your family, and particularly to your father, you go along with the party line. Jill and Jessa were told what to say, and maybe at the time believed what they said. It was to save the family's show/income stream; Jill and Jessa were sent out to downplay Josh's behavior so as to save her family's reputation. 

Jill has discussed that she's been to therapy, which can really help to learn what YOU think, what YOU feel, to understand YOUR emotions, which under IBLP is all secondary and to be pushed down so as not to dishonor your parents and God. This is a HUGE step for Jill, the people-pleaser and former favorite of her father's. 

[Trillium]

Even if that didn’t happen (and the fact that JB hasn’t come out defending himself makes me think it did) she was willing to put that in print and sign her name to it. 

Edited September 11, 2023 by Trillium

[LilJen]

36 minutes ago, MaryAnneSpier said:

I absolutely believe it. Jill was newly married when she went on Megyn Kelly's show, so she was barely removed from living under her parents' roof. When you grow up in an oppressive environment where all loyalty is to your family, and particularly to your father, you go along with the party line. Jill and Jessa were told what to say, and maybe at the time believed what they said. It was to save the family's show/income stream; Jill and Jessa were sent out to downplay Josh's behavior so as to save her family's reputation. 

Jill has discussed that she's been to therapy, which can really help to learn what YOU think, what YOU feel, to understand YOUR emotions, which under IBLP is all secondary and to be pushed down so as not to dishonor your parents and God. This is a HUGE step for Jill, the people-pleaser and former favorite of her father's. 

I think, too, that once you are out and you see OTHER families and how they function, you start to realize that not every family is like yours, that molestation doesn't "happen all the time" and that it IS in fact a big deal. And a good therapist would have validated her feelings of "WOW that interview felt so. . . wrong somehow" and explored WHY it felt wrong, WHY everything felt so uncomfortable, leading her to the conclusion that her parents did SOOOOO many things wrong. (and that yes, it is WRONG what Josh did, under/over clothes, it was neither sly nor curious but criminal.)

Edited September 11, 2023 by LilJen

[satrunrose]

I think I believe it. Three reasons:

1- She grew up a lot in the early years of her marriage (random shower rack attacks in Danger America notwithstanding) and part of that journey to adulthood is seeing things that seemed perfectly normal at the time through different eyes. This is particularly likely as Jill started to move from fundie to (very) conservative and went to therapy.

2- Wasn't the Ashley Madison scandal after the Kelly interview? Imagine, putting your pain out there for the world to see, but believing what your parents and church told you: That this was a satanic attack that happens in "a lot of families" and now Josh was cured thanks to the correct Jesus. Except... not so much. So now, not only does everyone know what happened, you and your family go from wholesome family fame to the punchline of every joke about fundie hypocrisy.

3- Yes, Jill did stand up for her abuser brother and, apparently, her thanks for that was to be verbally attacked by her father for... checks notes... wearing pants and piercing her nose. That would have been my last straw too. 

Edited September 11, 2023 by satrunrose

[lascuba]

51 minutes ago, satrunrose said:

 

2- Wasn't the Ashley Madison scandal after the Kelly interview? Imagine, putting your pain out there for the world to see, but believing what your parents and church told you: That this was a satanic attack that happens in "a lot of families" and now Josh was cured thanks to the correct Jesus. Except... not so much. So now, not only does everyone know what happened, you and your family go from wholesome family fame to the punchline of every joke about fundie hypocrisy.

 

I really think that's what did it for her...she'd still be defending Josh if not for Ashley Madison. The fallout from that has been massive.

I won't read the book...even if I were willing to give fundies generally and Jill specifically any money, Jill and Derick have never been well spoken or, imo, honest. Even with a ghost writer, I don't think I'd be able to get through anything they come up with. I'm nosy enough to read what's posted about it here, but that's it.

[Scarlett45]

3 hours ago, Tasya said:

I think JB and Michelle are reprehensible and that excerpt from the book reads like pure fiction dictated by Derrick. Are we truly to believe that Jill, who excused away Josh's abuse and went along with the "we don't even remember it, it was all above our clothes" BS, really stood up to her father that way?

That entire passage just reads very afterschool special. I'm willing to bed that 90% of this book is Derick's interpretation of events. 

I can believe it. One the two events are several years a part. Jill now has children of her own to think about she was newly post partum with Izzy during Kelly interview, and it was pretty clear she was traumatized by the entire thing.

Josh’s continued behavior- Ashley Madison, a conviction for CSA, has demonstrated to Jill that she’s justified in her feelings yet her Dad still stands up for Josh. 
 

I don’t have experience with this particular type of circumstance but I can say after several years of dealing with a family member’s BS, you may be at your wits end, even if you genuinely love them and would love nothing more than to NOT fight- but you aren’t going to enable them any more. I could see Jill being DONE with being mistreated. 

[Absolom]

All those experiences plus going through therapy makes a big difference plus being away from JB.  That Jim Bob think it's OK to be terrorizing Jill in front of witnesses really makes me wonder how he acts in private.  

[Jeeves]

18 minutes ago, Absolom said:

All those experiences plus going through therapy makes a big difference plus being away from JB.  That Jim Bob think it's OK to be terrorizing Jill in front of witnesses really makes me wonder how he acts in private.  

Taking my reply over to the Boob and Meech topic.

[mythoughtis]

Jill has been associating with people not in the cult.  People her age, married with kids.  People who would  have told her that she is married, over 21 and that either of those two things mean JB doesn’t get to control her behavior.  They probably also explained ‘leave and cleave’ to her.   Michele certainly knew what those words  meant when Josh  got married. 

[andromeda331]

9 hours ago, Laura Holt said:

I guess this is why so many of us have been hoping one of the kids would really break loose in the way some other cult members have.  Jill may not have gone quite as far as many of us hoped (I can't be the only one who wanted a searing tell all followed by a blockbuster movie) but it is a start.  Maybe by the time the grandkids get old enough we'll finally see a Duggar fronting a heavy metal band or working for Planned Parenthood.

No, and I still get frustrated with her for not going far enough and still think Derrick is vile and terrible. Jill probably shares those believes. But out of all the Duggar kids Jill was the one who believed the most in her parents' shit. She was the spokeperson for her sisters and the kids in general (except for Josh) and she was the first one to break. Out of all the kids she was the last one I expected to ever break. But she did. That's huge.

[Triple P]

6 hours ago, MaryAnneSpier said:

I absolutely believe it. Jill was newly married when she went on Megyn Kelly's show, so she was barely removed from living under her parents' roof. When you grow up in an oppressive environment where all loyalty is to your family, and particularly to your father, you go along with the party line. Jill and Jessa were told what to say, and maybe at the time believed what they said. It was to save the family's show/income stream; Jill and Jessa were sent out to downplay Josh's behavior so as to save her family's reputation. 

 

I just read an excerpt from the book, and apparently Josh was sitting just off camera during the entire Megyn Kelly interview, which served to increase the trauma for Jill. Her breakdown during the interview, while completely understandable before, is unequivocally understandable with that knowledge.

[Snow Fairy]

Someone said she described the traumatic Sam birth in the book. I am curious what happened.

 

On reddit I read some thing from the book and it really looks like she told a lot 

[Trillium]

On 9/6/2023 at 11:04 AM, Trillium said:

Fuck all the way off, Jim Bob. 

 

Quoting myself here but this really should have been the title of the book. 

[Lisa418722]

I am torn between wanting to read the book and not wanting to read the book.  I know I don't have the money to buy the book right now and I don't have the space to keep another hardback book.   Maybe I'll go over to a bookstore one Saturday and spend the day reading (since I know the library will have them checked out).  Somehow I don't think this book will take me multiple days to read.   I am looking forward to reading what others have to say about the book, and who knows, maybe in six months or so if the Kindle version goes down to under $5 and with my Kindle credits, I might get the book for a couple of dollars.  

Edited September 12, 2023 by Lisa418722

[Scarlett45]

6 hours ago, Triple P said:

I just read an excerpt from the book, and apparently Josh was sitting just off camera during the entire Megyn Kelly interview, which served to increase the trauma for Jill. Her breakdown during the interview, while completely understandable before, is unequivocally understandable with that knowledge.

I am not surprised by this, but it does make sense regarding poor Jill’s reaction. And I feel for Jessa too. I blame JB/Michelle for putting them in that situation. 

[SunnyBeBe]

I’m undecided about reading the book, but…….

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12507179/Jill-Duggar-accuses-father-Jim-Bob-Duggar.html

[MsJamieDornan]

1 hour ago, Trillium said:

Quoting myself here but this really should have been the title of the book.

Perfect!

 

[lascuba]

I wonder how much of this "tell all" is Jill and Derick telling on themselves. Because there's a lot they have to answer for, and blaming it all on their upbringing is way too convenient.

[GeeGolly]

Today is the day. I wonder how many folks have actually read the book yet. I'm assuming it'll be a quick read, especially since its under 300 pages.

[ginger90]

They were on GMA this morning, did anyone watch? Tonight they will be on Nightline.

[Jeeves]

47 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Today is the day. I wonder how many folks have actually read the book yet. I'm assuming it'll be a quick read, especially since its under 300 pages.

I'm seeing some reviews/recaps on reddit. I have it - my Kindle version dropped promptly at midnight Eastern time. But I have errands to run this morning. I'm going to save reading it for my afternoon's activty. 

I have opened it up to the dedication:

Quote

To those who have been harmed in the name of “religion.”

To those who have suffered behind closed doors and have yet to find their voice.

To those who have begun to find their voice but may still be living in a season of isolation.

To those who like Esther of the Old Testament Bible story have courageously answered the call for “such a time as this” (Esther 4:14), and despite the backlash have now found their voice.

From victims and survivors, to strangers, family, and friends, this book is dedicated to you. May you all know that you are not alone. That your story, your voice, and your mental health matter.

The Lord is a stronghold for the oppressed, a stronghold in times of trouble. —Psalm 9:9 ESV

         --Duggar, Jill. Counting the Cost (p. V). Gallery Books. Kindle Edition. 

The title page cites Jill as the author - "with Derick Dillard and Craig Borlase." IMO Borlase was a seriously good choice. From his website:

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Craig Borlase is a New York Times bestselling writer, specializing in crafting dramatic, engaging memoirs. Previous work includes Finding Gobi — the international and New York Times bestselling account of an ultra-marathon runner's chance encounter with a stray dog in the Mongolian desert, now translated into twenty-one languages — and My Name Is Tani — the story of an eight year old chess prodigy living in a homeless shelter in NYC. Films of both books are currently in development . . .

Recent projects include 27 Summers — a powerful story of redemption for an African American man sentenced to life for a crime he committed as a child — and Counting The Cost with Jill Duggar and Derick Dillard. The memoir is a first hand account of life beneath the surface of one of the most successful reality tv families of recent years.

Craig has collaborated with a wide range of authors on more than fifty books, from a global entertainment icon to a former Muslim woman who was one week away from becoming a suicide bomber. Previous work has taken him to Iraq, Jordan, China, Haiti, India, Sweden, Cuba, Uganda, Australia and all over the United States.

I'm going to try to stay off of online forums that might discuss the book until I've finished reading it. I have my own questions and want to meet the material with fresh eyes, if that makes sense. Toodles!

Edited September 12, 2023 by Jeeves
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[Jeeves]

10 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

They were on GMA this morning, did anyone watch? Tonight they will be on Nightline.

Okay, I'm still online. 🤣. Here's the interview from GMA: https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/News/video/jill-duggar-opens-new-memoir-counting-cost-103111098

[DeeReynolds]

Some highlights from People

https://people.com/jill-duggar-dillard-memoir-counting-the-cost-biggest-bombshells-7968156

[CalicoKitty]

10 hours ago, Triple P said:

I just read an excerpt from the book, and apparently Josh was sitting just off camera during the entire Megyn Kelly interview, which served to increase the trauma for Jill. Her breakdown during the interview, while completely understandable before, is unequivocally understandable with that knowledge.

I think I remember this from the time of the program.  This, plus stating in court that he couldn't remember when Josh molested his sisters really firmed up my total  distaste and dislike for JB and his entire cult.

[zoomama]

thanks for posting the link to the gma interview --i missed it by seconds.

i opted to buy the book -- figured that the pennies they would make is worth it for me to read the her version of their life. its coming today.

Edited September 12, 2023 by zoomama