Jill, Derick & the Kids: Moving On!!

[Sew Sumi]

Jill had to call JB in TN for permission to go to the TTH to assist Jessa in labor last May. So yeah, the ostracizing applies to her.

[absnow54]

1 hour ago, Sew Sumi said:

Jill had to call JB in TN for permission to go to the TTH to assist Jessa in labor last May. So yeah, the ostracizing applies to her.

With film crew in tow because Jill was in that episode. 

[LilJen]

21 hours ago, galaxychaser said:

But we sorta knew this. One can’t be a great parent to 19 children it’s just not possible. 
 

You can provide adequate shelter and food etc but neglect them by not having time to get to know each kid individually. Doubt Pops and Lolli can name 3 things each kid likes/is good at. 

Sadly, I know parents with very few children, but they have treated them as a mere annoyance their whole lives. Kids can be really devastated by this.  (In fairness, some of these parents have been through some bad stuff themselves. Some are just jerks.) 😞

Edited February 2, 2020 by LilJen

[Nysha]

I think Jill is trying to parent differently than she was parented, especially since they've moved into their new home. I think it's always going to be hard for her because she is so emotionally needy herself and she's not a kid person. 

[mimionthebeach]

11 hours ago, galaxygirl76 said:

Sure they do: Josh, Josie, and Jwhatshisname

I think Pops probably has Jed! top of mind these days, making 3 easy for him. Lolli would get Josh and Josie then just j-stutter until she could change the subject. 

[MsJamieDornan]

It's sad, but I tend to believe Derrick over The Big JBoob.

Edited February 3, 2020 by MsJamieDornan

[ginger90]

 

[Growsonwalls]

I wonder if Jill is seeing a therapist. That post sounds very much like a therapy journal. I know this because I was once in therapy saying "if I died no one would miss me" and the therapist had me write a journal of people I was in regular contact with and how THEY would respond. It was actually really helpful. 

So if the therapist is telling Jill to COUNT her blessings (as in come up with concrete things to be thankful about) it's not a bad therapeutic choice and it might help Jill feel less in a funk.

[galaxychaser]

Hubby made me tea 🙄🙄🙄

[JoanArc]

7 minutes ago, galaxychaser said:

Hubby made me tea 🙄🙄🙄

Derricks Thoughts: “Maybe she’ll leave me alone for 5 minutes  if I make her tea.”

[kokapetl]

3 hours ago, Growsonwalls said:

I wonder if Jill is seeing a therapist. That post sounds very much like a therapy journal. I know this because I was once in therapy saying "if I died no one would miss me" and the therapist had me write a journal of people I was in regular contact with and how THEY would respond. It was actually really helpful. 

So if the therapist is telling Jill to COUNT her blessings (as in come up with concrete things to be thankful about) it's not a bad therapeutic choice and it might help Jill feel less in a funk.

How does that make you feel?

[SMama]

“Did you know that counting specific blessings vs. redundant, broad ones has been shown to increase happiness?“

I found this quote (there’s more on her instagram post) very interesting. The Duggars are all about redundant, broad platitudes.  If Jill is getting help, or just reading to expand her world view, I’m happy for her.  Every baby step will make a difference. Will she ever become a fully functional adult? I have no idea, but every bit of improvement, every step she takes away from her parents’ cult will result in a better quality of life. As a friend used to say about our CPS parents, they are doing the best they can with the tools they have.  JB and M made sure Jill and siblings had no tools to function in the real world.  They purposed (pun intended) to handicap their children for life to guaranty their eternal dependence upon their parents. Vile.

Edited February 2, 2020 by SMama

[Growsonwalls]

2 hours ago, kokapetl said:

How does that make you feel?

Huh? 

[GeeGolly]

Just now, Growsonwalls said:

Huh? 

I think he's humorously doing 'therapist speak'.

[kokapetl]

40 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

I think he's humorously doing 'therapist speak'.

I am.

[galaxychaser]

There should be mugs for fundies stating:

Blessed beyond measure to be pregnant! Another blessing for us!

[Sew Sumi]

They don't use "pregnant." Sub in "expecting" instead. 😁

[yogi2014L]

IMO, even with all the help in the wold, you cannot be a a good parent when you have 19 kids.   I am glad she is realizing that her parents are terrible, selfish people and hopefully she believes she can do better. 

Edited February 3, 2020 by yogi2014L

[Quilt Fairy]

8 hours ago, galaxychaser said:

Hubby made me tea 🙄🙄🙄  #besthubbyever

Fixed it for you.

[questionfear]

On 1/31/2020 at 3:52 PM, BigBingerBro said:

Is Israel drinking from a baby bottle??

Why is Sam wearing a hat that makes him look like either an extra in Medieval times or like he's ready for the London Blitz, depending on how you squint?

[Tasya]

Huh? Sam has a hoodie on. He often has hoodies on and almost always has the hood up. He must enjoy that. 

[ginger90]

3 pictures:

 

 

 

Clearing up the baby bottle question:

[libgirl2]

That's Woody! Can't make out the other one. 

[galaxygirl76]

6 minutes ago, libgirl2 said:

That's Woody! Can't make out the other one. 

I think it may be Chase from paw patrol. 

[crazy8s]

"the Wild Brothers" - home schooled missionary kids living of the grid in the jungle....

https://answersingenesis.org/wild-brothers/

They are living off the grid with solar, collecting rain water and wood fire cooking. kids claim to be fluent in tribal languages. while selling dvds maintaining a blog and fb page and selling merchandise.

When Jill watches this, I wonder how she feels about being a fearful washout as a "missionary" on the fenced and secure SOS ministry compound,  in a house build for them, with a refrigerator daddy bought, never becoming fluent in spanish etc

 

Edited February 3, 2020 by crazy8s
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[charmed1]

Are those little boys playing on a construction site?!

[fonfereksglen]

2 hours ago, ginger90 said:

3 pictures:

 

 

 

Clearing up the baby bottle question:

The tortilla chips puzzle me.

[libgirl2]

6 minutes ago, fonfereksglen said:

The tortilla chips puzzle me.

That might just be the way he is used to or likes to eat his oatmeal-- chips on the side. 

[Sew Sumi]

He's still wearing a bib. 😬

[libgirl2]

1 minute ago, Sew Sumi said:

He's still wearing a bib. 😬

I don't get the bib part at his age. Is he really that messy of an eater? 

[libgirl2]

1 minute ago, Sew Sumi said:

He's still wearing a bib. 😬

I don't get the bib part at his age. Is he really that messy of an eater? 

[3 is enough]

Glad to see Israel wearing a helmet.  Still baffled by the bib.  If anything, it creates a space between him and the table which would lead to more messes.  All I can think of is that maybe he is very fastidious and he freaks out if he gets dirty?  It actually looks uncomfortable.

[Absolom]

If he must wear a bib, she should buy something larger than an infant size.  I'm surprised that thing still fastens.  Really though teach him to eat properly if he can't.  In the real world, he'd be going to school this fall.

[emma675]

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Still baffled by the bib.  If anything, it creates a space between him and the table which would lead to more messes.  All I can think of is that maybe he is very fastidious and he freaks out if he gets dirty?  It actually looks uncomfortable.

That's what I don't understand, I feel like the bib sticks out in such a way as to make more messes, not help prevent any. My brother used to have a bib like this when he was a toddler (this was wayyyy back in the 80's, lol) and when he finally started using it to store food he didn't like and small toys, my mom realized he was too old for it. I think he was about two years old at the time. Isn't Izzy pushing 5?

[Sew Sumi]

He'll be 5 in early April.

[Picture It. Sicily]

My nephew is 5. I cannot imagine him in a bib, drinking from a sippy cup. 

[Sew Sumi]

But he's graduated kindergarten and can ride a bike!

[JoanArc]

2 hours ago, Absolom said:

In the real world, he'd be going to school this fall.

 Ouch, that really drives it home. 

“Local mom discovers way to be free of kids for 6 to 8 hours a day! Homeschoolers hate her! “

Edited February 3, 2020 by JoanArc

[Growsonwalls]

Maybe I;m reading too much into it but I wonder if Jill wants to keep her boys looking little and small and thus the bibs and sippy cups. They're both getting to the point where they're no longer "toddler cute" and maybe that dries up the gifts and sponsorships. And for whatever reason Jill is not planning on another "blessing" anytime soon.

[Tasya]

Is it a construction playground? We have one near us. Actual construction equipment and everything. Personally I hate it, you have to pay a lot of attention to your kid rather than just allowing them to run free. Thank God that my son doesn't ask to go there frequently. 

[fonfereksglen]

3 hours ago, libgirl2 said:

That might just be the way he is used to or likes to eat his oatmeal-- chips on the side. 

But where is the queso?  😎

[BigBingerBro]

How far does Jill live from Jessa?  I'm surprised they don't get together more for play-dates....

[Sew Sumi]

I think Jessa is closer to the TTH than to Jill. @Zella made a map. 😁

[GeeGolly]

I think Jill has always been Jessa's least favorite Duggar, with Jana a close second.

I don't think Jessa dislikes Josh. Not yet anyway. Maybe someday she will. Or maybe never.

[Sew Sumi]

Yeah, I've never sensed a bond between Jessa and Jill. That said, Jessa was sure quick to use Jill and her medical thingys when she was in labor with Ivy.

[Zella]

29 minutes ago, BigBingerBro said:

How far does Jill live from Jessa?  I'm surprised they don't get together more for play-dates....

They live about 20 minutes apart, and Jill is about the same distance from the TTH. In contrast, Jessa is about 15 minutes away from the TTH. I don't think it's an issue of convenience at all for them not doing play dates together. It wouldn't surprise me if Jessa is shunning Jill in keeping with her dad's wishes, except for when she feels like she needs her, i.e. when she was giving birth. Perhaps I'm being uncharitable to Jessa, but I doubt it. 

Edited February 4, 2020 by Zella

[JoanArc]

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I think Jill has always been Jessa's least favorite Duggar, with Jana a close second.

 And now she’s been dumped by Jingle. Alone again, naturally. 

Edited February 4, 2020 by JoanArc

[Sew Sumi]

5 minutes ago, Zella said:

They live about 20 minutes apart, and Jill is about the same distance from the TTH. In contrast, Jessa is about 15 minutes away from the TTH. I don't think it's an issue of convenience at all for them not doing play dates together. It wouldn't surprise me if Jessa is shunning Jill in keeping with her dad's wishes, except for when she feels like she needs her, i.e. when she was giving birth. Perhaps I'm being uncharitable to Jessa, but I doubt it. 

That's how I read the situation as well.

[GeeGolly]

I think Jessa dumped Jill before JB did.

[galaxychaser]

Izzy squinting in the sun just like momma!