Jill, Derick & the Kids: Moving On!!

[oliviabenson]

[Salacious Kitty]

1 minute ago, oliviabenson said:

Haha, I knew Jill didn't write that. 

[zenme]

4 minutes ago, oliviabenson said:

Intentional or not, apologies are still in order.

[Tuxcat]

from reddit, the producer's AMA - she expanded on the "Brainwashing" quote

 

[SnapHappy]

This is hilarious. https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/jill-duggar-husband-derick-dillard-134352163.html

Especially the section marked "What Else Does Derick Dillard Do For a Living? 

Quote

In addition to his work as an attorney, Derick is an author. He will publish his first book, Counting the Cost, with Jill and Craig Borlase in January 2024.

Poor Jill, always the afterthought. 

He finally got his "tell-all." But what could he possibly "reveal" that we don't know? 

Jim Bob took their money?  Treated them poorly?  Lied to them all?  Favored the boys?  No education?  Mind fucking? Arranged the marriages? Hitting the kids?  Allowed sexual abuse?

There is nothing left, Dillwad.  It's all come out already.  What a waste of time.

We know he just wants more money.  

 

Edited June 7, 2023 by SnapHappy

[GeeGolly]

I find Jill's comment about school somewhat vague and a bit confusing. Any thoughts on what she is saying?

[Zella]

1 hour ago, GeeGolly said:

I find Jill's comment about school somewhat vague and a bit confusing. Any thoughts on what she is saying?

My impression is that the additional comments clarify she's not saying public school automatically leads to brainwashing. Or that essentially as a parent you have the ability to counteract any potential brainwashing. 

That being said, I really do believe that Izzy has been pulled from public school and that they're homeschooling now. If so, I think the reasoning for why is laced in that language about discernment. 

[Kellyee]

Quote

In addition to his work as an attorney, Derick is an author. He will publish his first book, Counting the Cost, with Jill and Craig Borlase in January 2024.

Poor Jill, always the afterthought. 

He finally got his "tell-all." But what could he possibly "reveal" that we don't know? 

Just like most memoirs, I'm assuming this book is almost completely ghost written. As a technical writer myself, it always pisses me off when people like Derrick, Jill, and Jinger claim to be "authors". You didn't write shit, and you have no idea what it's really like to draft something like that from start to finish. So stop taking the credit. 

That being said, I didn't learn from the documentary that I didn't already know, and I'm not sure the book will be any different. Both Jill and Jinger seem reluctant to throw any truly significant dirt at their parents. Jill throws occasionally shade, but doesn't make a direct comment.

 

 

 

 

 

[lascuba]

5 hours ago, SnapHappy said:

This is hilarious. https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/jill-duggar-husband-derick-dillard-134352163.html

Especially the section marked "What Else Does Derick Dillard Do For a Living? 

Poor Jill, always the afterthought. 

He finally got his "tell-all." But what could he possibly "reveal" that we don't know? 

Jim Bob took their money?  Treated them poorly?  Lied to them all?  Favored the boys?  No education?  Mind fucking? Arranged the marriages? Hitting the kids?  Allowed sexual abuse?

There is nothing left, Dillwad.  It's all come out already.  What a waste of time.

We know he just wants more money.  

 

The only tell-all I'd consider reading is one where they look inward and acknowledge all the ways they were terrible human beings. I really don't  care about the money or the gender norms or the "brainwashing." Anyone who's done even cursory research in evangelical Christianity would have already reasonably assumed all that about the Duggars. 

[cmr2014]

7 hours ago, Zella said:

My impression is that the additional comments clarify she's not saying public school automatically leads to brainwashing. Or that essentially as a parent you have the ability to counteract any potential brainwashing. 

That being said, I really do believe that Izzy has been pulled from public school and that they're homeschooling now. If so, I think the reasoning for why is laced in that language about discernment. 

I didn't read this as having anything to do with home schooling. I thought she was talking about Gothardism and IBLP.

[Zella]

2 minutes ago, cmr2014 said:

I didn't read this as having anything to do with home schooling. I thought she was talking about Gothardism and IBLP.

I didn't actually say it did. We've been debating for months whether or not Izzy is being homeschooled, and I find her discernment comment interesting within that context, which is what I said. 

[auntieminem]

The book release is now Sept. 1.  On Amazon I can save $10.91.  Odd Jinger is offering  half off at audible today.  Jinger's book on Amazon is saving $11.66 again I am assuming that is what her publisher is having her do.  As I said in Jinger's thread, people on IG are asking her why she isn't being supportive of Jill since Jill promoted Jinger's book.  Jeremy probably hasn't told her to yet. 

[oliviabenson]

Oh I like that they moved up the book release date!

[libgirl2]

1 hour ago, oliviabenson said:

Oh I like that they moved up the book release date!

Me too! 

[SMama]

Any predictions about the book selling more than Jinger’s? 

[Salacious Kitty]

6 minutes ago, SMama said:

Any predictions about the book selling more than Jinger’s? 

I hope it KILLS Jinger's sales. 

[AstridM]

58 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

I hope it KILLS Jinger's sales. 

Me too.

[oliviabenson]

[ginger90]

21 hours ago, auntieminem said:

The book release is now Sept. 1.

Jill posted the release date as September 12th.

[oliviabenson]

But… but… Jinger and Jeremy are the beloved breakout stars lol! Not Jill and Dereck.

 

I think Jill will outsell Jinger. 
 

 

[charmed1]

Look at that gangly cricket back there cheesing. Why don’t you stay home with the children and let her enjoy a couple of hours of pampering? I hope the manicurist put every color of the rainbow on those big hobbit feet.

[lookeyloo]

3 minutes ago, charmed1 said:

Look at that gangly cricket back there cheesing. Why don’t you stay home with the children and let her enjoy a couple of hours of pampering? I hope the manicurist put every color of the rainbow on those big hobbit feet.

Well you know Jill doesn't like to be alone. 

[auntieminem]

58 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

Jill posted the release date as September 12th.

Either it was changed or better chance is I misread it yesterday.  I do see today it is the 12th.  

So why was she thanking Jinger & Jeremy for making "this possible"?  The other two people she thanked appear to be their pastor and his wife.

 

Edited June 9, 2023 by auntieminem
ETA question.

[all fall down]

Maybe Jing & Jer sent her a gift card? 

[SMama]

5 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

I hope it KILLS Jinger's sales. 

That won’t go down well with Rad Homie. 

[oliviabenson]

1 hour ago, all fall down said:

Maybe Jing & Jer sent her a gift card? 

I agree. It was a gift from Jingle and Rad HOMIE.

[Salacious Kitty]

58 minutes ago, SMama said:

That won’t go down well with Rad Homie. 

All the better. 😀

[Kiss my mutt]

I think Jinger and Jeremy sent them a gift card because of the flack they’ve gotten for them not publicly supporting Jill’s book without actually having to support it. Lame, really.  

[Canadian Girl]

On 6/6/2023 at 9:11 PM, oliviabenson said:

I don't understand, who are the two people in this exchange? 

[Notabug]

1 hour ago, Kiss my mutt said:

I think Jinger and Jeremy sent them a gift card because of the flack they’ve gotten for them not publicly supporting Jill’s book without actually having to support it. Lame, really.  

Eh, if it comes down to it, I'd rather Jinger supports Jill privately as a loving sister rather than performative love for her on SM.  In other words, I'd rather have a mani/pedi than a 'like' on Insta.

[Salacious Kitty]

2 minutes ago, Notabug said:

Eh, if it comes down to it, I'd rather Jinger supports Jill privately as a loving sister rather than performative love for her on SM.  In other words, I'd rather have a mani/pedi than a 'like' on Insta.

Jinger had to know that Jill would say something, though. Especially now that she's pimping her new book. 

It will be interesting see what kind of promo tour the publisher puts Jill on. Will it be as intense as Jinger's?

[xwordfanatik]

I'll say this for them:  they look genuinely happy.  

It'll be interesting to see which book sells better.  I won't be buying.

[crazycatlady58]

5 hours ago, oliviabenson said:

I have to give Derrick credit very few fundy men would get a pedicure mush less have a picture taken. He seems to be enjoying himself. 

[lascuba]

13 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Jinger had to know that Jill would say something, though. Especially now that she's pimping her new book. 

It will be interesting see what kind of promo tour the publisher puts Jill on. Will it be as intense as Jinger's?

My only (unfounded) hope is that those interviewing Jill will ask better follow up questions.

[Meow Mix]

Looks like Jinger and Jeremy were guilted into doing something publicly since Jill had been so public in supporting Jinger.  It particularly looked bad when JB's attack dog Jed! was going through the comments on Jill's posts liking all the ones that criticized her.  Glad Jill enjoyed her spa day, though.  

I just had to say - she put Greek yoghurt in her coffee?  I think yoghurt is the most disgusting stuff around, but I think even if you liked it, that would be nasty.  It reminds me of a friend of mine who hates mayo, but wanted tuna salad so used sour cream instead.  Was glad I didn't have to eat that.  Yuck.

[P2C2E]

I think she ran out of creamer so tried Greek yogurt and it wasn't good at all. She was making a joke about that as to why she was extra thankful for the coffee gift. I've definitely put ice cream in coffee before in lieu of creamer, so I don't blame her for giving it a shot. 

[Absolom]

I don't think I'd like it but there are recipes online for yogurt coffee.  Perhaps she saw one of those.

[auntieminem]

Jeremy posted on Jill's IG that thanked the Vs saying  "Love you guys!!"  So I wonder if that is sufficient  to stop people from bugging Jinger to support her sister. Jill of course responds with a "Thanks  bro!❤️ "   I don't think that family members should feel like they have to make public all their well wishes or support. However it would be nice if they would publicly support her book. Maybe they want to read it first. 

[Salacious Kitty]

 

1 minute ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Sadly, her family don't strike me as readers. Well, Jessa read that hateful Abbie Halberstadt's M is for Mama garbage, and pimped it out. 

She never did the same for her own sister. 

Oops quoted my own post. I should know better. Oops! 😱

Edited June 10, 2023 by Salacious Kitty

[sagittarius sue]

5 hours ago, Meow Mix said:

Looks like Jinger and Jeremy were guilted into doing something publicly since Jill had been so public in supporting Jinger.  It particularly looked bad when JB's attack dog Jed! was going through the comments on Jill's posts liking all the ones that criticized her.  Glad Jill enjoyed her spa day, though.  

I just had to say - she put Greek yoghurt in her coffee?  I think yoghurt is the most disgusting stuff around, but I think even if you liked it, that would be nasty.  It reminds me of a friend of mine who hates mayo, but wanted tuna salad so used sour cream instead.  Was glad I didn't have to eat that.  Yuck.

It's somethng like people who hate mayo with potato salad.  You can go the vinaigrette route for a tuna salad.

[GeeGolly]

I saw this headline and laughed:

 

[Meow Mix]

18 hours ago, sagittarius sue said:

It's somethng like people who hate mayo with potato salad.  You can go the vinaigrette route for a tuna salad.

Yes, vinaigrette makes sense.  Sour cream in tuna salad does not.

 

1 hour ago, GeeGolly said:

I saw this headline and laughed:

 

Whoever wrote that has a different definition of rare than the rest of us.  I see they still have to sit on the same side of the table or they'll get divorced or something.

[Future Cat Lady]

6 minutes ago, Meow Mix said:

Whoever wrote that has a different definition of rare than the rest of us.  I see they still have to sit on the same side of the table or they'll get divorced or something.

How can she gaze adoringly into his eyes if she's sitting by his side?

I get neck cramps just looking at them.

[sagittarius sue]

Outsiders don't realize that fundies can PDA all they want as long as they're a fundie-married couple.

[Zella]

3 hours ago, sagittarius sue said:

Outsiders don't realize that fundies can PDA all they want as long as they're a fundie-married couple.

Once you've put a ring on it, you can even hump each other fully clothed on a golf course in front of your kids! But don't you dare smoosh your bosoms together in a full-frontal hug without getting married first. 

[Minivanessa]

Bringing this over from the Amy et al topic.

17 hours ago, Snow Fairy said:

Found this on Reddit

 

 

16 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

You can see FF's signature on the right hand column. I imagine Jana and JD signed below that, but the screenshot didn't capture their signatures. 

I believe the contract had separate signature blocks for the adult kids (the age of legal majority - adulthood - is 18 in almost all US states, including Arkansas) - but only SOME of them. IIRC the screenshot was from the point in the documentary where Jill disclosed that her parents had been signing contracts on behalf of some of the kids who were actually legal adults but were described on the contract as minors. (How about that, JB and Michelle? A blatantly false written representation on a legal document - exposing your arrogance, greed, and deceit.)

That may have been the same signature page that Jill signed the day before her wedding. She said she was "running through the kitchen" when one of her parents stopped her and said, you need to sign this. The document was on a kitchen counter. She said the signature page was partly covered, nobody told her what it was, but it seemed like something routine, so she signed it and rolled on. Later on when she and Derick approached TLC to be reimbursed for their expenses re Israel's birth (which they had NOT wanted to be filmed for the show but TLC insisted they were obliged to), TLC said it's in your contract. Which led to "what contract?" and at first Jill was sure someone had forged her signature because she didn't remember signing a contract. Then she was shown the signature page, and realized that's what she signed in the kitchen on the day before her wedding.

[AstridM]

Yes, the age of legal majority is 18 in this country, not 21. FFS, Mechelle even got married at 17!

[GeeGolly]

Legal age varies all the time. From buying alcohol, renting automobiles, joining the military, etc. Its TLC's contract so they choose what age works for them.

[charmed1]

Sadly, Arkansas has some of loosest child labor laws in the country. So many people failed the Duggar 19. Seems like the the only people who didn’t exploit them, and expressed concern from the very beginning are the very snarkers who they think hate them.

[Zella]

21 minutes ago, charmed1 said:

Seems like the the only people who didn’t exploit them, and expressed concern from the very beginning are the very snarkers who they think hate them.

It's really sad. Even the Shiny Happy People producer who did a Reddit AMA last week, when asked about online snark communities, said something along the lines of "Snark on. Snarkers were the first people in the general public to call bullshit on the Duggars and realize something was very wrong in that house."