Jill, Derick & the Kids: Moving On!!

[Madtown]

20 hours ago, jacourt said:

She should make some friends and have as much of a normal life as possible. But then maybe she thinks she does have the normal life. I hate to see her potential and her kids potential minimized. 

This is why I was floored when she announced she was pregnant again. I thought that both boys would be in school and maybe she would be able to volunteer somewhere. Hell, she could've worked in the thrift store she and Amy are constantly shopping at.
I truly think Jill is afraid to be at home by herself. Look how many times she went to see Derick at Walmart before Izzy was born. There was no way she was going to be able to go to the courthouse or wherever Derick is working and sit with him all day till the boys were out of school.
I'm hoping maybe they are doing online school(thought something was mentioned here about this option). She sucked at homeschooling Izzy or at least trying to teach him basics and she was completely overwhelmed with it when Sam was born.
It's so sad that they were brought up in such a hateful home where going to school was shamed upon. The only friends they had were their siblings. It amazes me that none of these people want better for their kids. They can't get past that not everything taught in school is evil.
I'm the youngest of 3, I was in the same school with my oldest sibling for a year and 2 years with my middle sibling. My mom survived with us going to different schools. Though she didn't take us, we had one car. We walked to school(We were a couple blocks from the elementry school). Middle school and high school, we either took  the city bus or walked. Yes, it was a much different time, but making a point.

[madpsych78]

Jill had a miscarriage before becoming pregnant with Freddy. River Bliss is the Dillards' version of J'Caleb. Especially if Jill was on BC when she became pregnant with River Bliss.

[Salacious Kitty]

59 minutes ago, madpsych78 said:

Jill had a miscarriage before becoming pregnant with Freddy. River Bliss is the Dillards' version of J'Caleb. Especially if Jill was on BC when she became pregnant with River Bliss.

They're against the pill. From what I've gathered based on what Jill has said, they use barrier methods of BC. But it was obvious from the timing that they planned River Bliss' pregnancy to coincide with Derick's graduation from law school. They didn't even wait until he passed the bar. She became pregnant again very soon after the loss, more proof that this was a planned pregnancy.

[oliviabenson]

18 hours ago, Zella said:

Oh wow time flies when you're having fun. LOL 

Painting on windows and going to Walmart daily what fun. Lol

Maybe they go to the library once in a while who knows.

[Madtown]

Jill is shilling the crystal hair removal. She did an insta story. She shaved her leg and Derick's to show how well it worked. Izzy is so tall.

 

[floridamom]

Jill, an 8 year old should not be cooking the family's dinner...that is YOUR JOB; like a traditional stay at home mother is meant to do. Isn't that what you were "trained" for? Yes, Izzy sure is tall; I am sorry that he does not get to attend school as we presume. Hopefully he will next school year,.Sam too.

[GeeGolly]

I think Iz is on a stool.

[libgirl2]

23 minutes ago, floridamom said:

Jill, an 8 year old should not be cooking the family's dinner...that is YOUR JOB; like a traditional stay at home mother is meant to do. Isn't that what you were "trained" for? Yes, Izzy sure is tall; I am sorry that he does not get to attend school as we presume. Hopefully he will next school year,.Sam too.

Not meaning to defend her but there are kids that do enjoy cooking, even at such a young age. So, maybe, just maybe, he is one of those kids. 

[Salacious Kitty]

29 minutes ago, floridamom said:

Jill, an 8 year old should not be cooking the family's dinner...that is YOUR JOB; like a traditional stay at home mother is meant to do. Isn't that what you were "trained" for? Yes, Izzy sure is tall; I am sorry that he does not get to attend school as we presume. Hopefully he will next school year,.Sam too.

From her post, it appears that he only makes this one soup. It's pretty much dump and stir. 

[CalicoKitty]

But he is reading a recipe and showing that he knows what to do.  At least he has an interest that he is allowed to follow, unlike his poor cousins.

[lookeyloo]

I'm thinking it is a good thing Israel can make a recipe of sorts.  It is good for children to be competent in many things.  I taught my sons a lot of things including how to do their own laundry at a very young age.  Regardless if the mother stays at home or works part or full time, teaching children skills is always a good thing, IMHO.  Of course not advocating sweat shop level!!!

[Salacious Kitty]

8 minutes ago, CalicoKitty said:

But he is reading a recipe and showing that he knows what to do.  At least he has an interest that he is allowed to follow, unlike his poor cousins.

I think this task is age-appropriate. Not sure if he prepped the ingredients though. How about an 8 year old cutting slippery, raw chicken? 

[SMama]

There is a mom on Tik Tok who films her three children making rather complex meals. They range in age from I think 5-9. It’s amazing the amount of safe kitchen tools for kids out there. They do everything under her supervision, in unison. They cook on portable one burners. She must have a lot of storage available. 😂
 

To see kids that age making surf and turf, jambalaya, Wellington, etc is truly a joy. SGirl has always had her own knife set and other tools, including a glove to avoid cutting herself. I had no idea they now sell knuckle guards to prevent cutting accidents.

I became Mami’s souz chef as soon as I was able to stand. I didn’t have the luxury of kid tools but Mami was right beside me. By the time I was Israel’s age I could cook a meal on my own. Again with Mami right by my side. I’m forever grateful for that skill. It’s something I have passed on to my children, a great bonding experience.

As long as Israel is not completely responsible for cooking meals and cleaning like Callie Bates, I say good for him. He will be able to feed himself and not depend on a girlfriend or wife. Look at how much Zach Bates enjoys cooking for his family. 

Edited May 1, 2023 by SMama

[crazy8s]

2 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

I think this task is age-appropriate. Not sure if he prepped the ingredients though. How about an 8 year old cutting slippery, raw chicken? 

He could get cousin Dax to bring over his sharp knives to help🙄

 

[oliviabenson]

Jill kept saying ummmmm. It’s unprofessional and annoying.

[AstridM]

5 hours ago, libgirl2 said:

Not meaning to defend her but there are kids that do enjoy cooking, even at such a young age. So, maybe, just maybe, he is one of those kids. 

I did at that age. 

[Notabug]

2 hours ago, SMama said:

There is a mom on Tik Tok who films her three children making rather complex meals. They range in age from I think 5-9. It’s amazing the amount of safe kitchen tools for kids out there. They do everything under her supervision, in unison. They cook on portable one burners. She must have a lot of storage available. 😂
 

To see kids that age making surf and turf, jambalaya, Wellington, etc is truly a joy. SGirl has always had her own knife set and other tools, including a glove to avoid cutting herself. I had no idea they now sell knuckle guards to prevent cutting accidents.

I became Mami’s souz chef as soon as I was able to stand. I didn’t have the luxury of kid tools but Mami was right beside me. By the time I was Israel’s age I could cook a meal on my own. Again with Mami right by my side. I’m forever grateful for that skill. It’s something I have passed on to my children, a great bonding experience.

As long as Israel is not completely responsible for cooking meals and cleaning like Callie Bates, I say god for him. He will be able to feed himself and not depend on a girlfriend or wife. Look at how much Zach Bates enjoys cooking for his family. 

My father's parents owned a diner when he was small.  He used to tell us that one of his first memories was sitting at a table chopping vegetables for soup with his mother when he was around 3.   He literally grew up in the kitchen with his mother, cooking.  She was an amazing cook and baker and my dad was, too.

However, Jill isn't that bright and I'm not sure she could properly supervise Israel.

[Dimi1]

16 hours ago, floridamom said:

Jill, an 8 year old should not be cooking the family's dinner...that is YOUR JOB; like a traditional stay at home mother is meant to do. Isn't that what you were "trained" for? Yes, Izzy sure is tall; I am sorry that he does not get to attend school as we presume. Hopefully he will next school year,.Sam too.

I give a pass on  this...1. He may like to cook - which if he makes home made food ..will benefit him in the long run!

[Jeeves]

I ain't nominating Jill for MOTY, but I'm not alarmed by that snap of Izzy standing at the stove. Just possibly, he really is interested in cooking. And just possibly, Jill not only recognizes that, she's allowing him to participate, appropriately, in meal prep along with her. He's old enough, and tall enough, to learn by doing about hot stoves and skillets and saucepans. He's not a feral toddler turned loose in the kitchen. 

I don't think Jill grew up in a home where the sons were expected to learn to cook. Did the Duggars' TV show have any scenes where the sons were learning to cook? I don't count flipping burgers on an outdoor grill (which is of course very manly). We've snarked like crazy on her social media posts with beige dishes and the "tossed salad and homemade bread" lines, but IIRC she's shown - or at least shared on SM - more genuine interest in cooking than any of her siblings.

And she's sharing a photo of her MALE CHILD at a stove, learning to cook. I treasure the idea of JB seeing that and being displeased. Heh.

It's disappointing to me that she's homeschooling Izzy and Sam. Such a step backwards. Ugh. At least she's not showing us the kind of pointless depressing kid videos and images that Jessa puts out there. I think her kids aren't left to wander around the house in a semi-feral unkempt state - like their Seewald cousins are portrayed on SM by their proud mom.

I know, low bar. 

Edited April 29, 2023 by Jeeves

[GeeGolly]

Maybe Izzy will accidently learn fractions. Wasn't it Jill who said she hoped Jackson would be a girl, but was okay with him being a boy because then it would be half and half. Jackson made the numbers 10 boys & 5 girls. 🙃

[floridamom]

My post regarding the photo of Izzy cooking was that I hope he wasn't responsible for the family's meals at his age. I agree that this is a good life skill that we all should learn. Helping out; making simple things is great; not being responsible to feed the family.

[Teriacky]

Like anything else, cooking is fun when you GET to and not so much fun when you HAVE to. 

[Natalie68]

On 4/28/2023 at 12:54 PM, libgirl2 said:

Not meaning to defend her but there are kids that do enjoy cooking, even at such a young age. So, maybe, just maybe, he is one of those kids. 

My mom taught me how to cook when I was really young and like all other Gen X, I was a latchkey kid.  I would get bored and call her at work and ask if I could make dinner, beginning at 10.  One of the meals I knew how to cook was Swedish meatballs.  I remember making that, some rice and bran muffins I stuck chocolate chips in.  HA!  I think it is awesome when kids cook.  Too many aren't taught these days.

[Heathen]

19 hours ago, AstridM said:

I did at that age. 

So did I. With my father, no less. I remember helping my grandmother make grape jam when I was even younger, and that was a seriously messy and hot job.

Anyway, maybe the Dillard kids might actually get something close to proper nutrition, unlike their mother and maternal aunts and uncles. 

Edited April 29, 2023 by Heathen

[CalicoKitty]

I would bet he is a better cook than his aunt Jessa.  I wonder if there are any kid cooking classes in their area.  I always enjoy watching the Kid's Baking Championship, and am amazed at how well some kids can cook and bake.  I wish my mother, and especially my grandmother, could have been as good in the kitchen.  (My grandma was truly a horrible cook)

[madpsych78]

Honestly, he's 8 years old. He is old enough to learn about stove safety. He is old enough to learn about how to measure things and follow directions, including printed directions. It seems to me that what he is doing in the snap/photo is totally reasonable. 

It'd be a different story if he was expected to assume full responsibility, but I don't think that's the case here since Jill clearly took the picture which meant that she was present. 

[Zella]

I'm also glad that he seems to be interested in cooking and having fun with learning it. It's a skill that will serve him well. I always am a bit dubious about Duggar sense of safety, but I don't really get the vibe from that picture that he's now solely responsible for all the meals. 

Honestly, I wish my family would have taught me to cook. My dad and his mom are great cooks--my poor mother could screw up boiling water. The less said about her cooking skills the better. 😂😂😂 I helped my grandma a little in the kitchen as a small child, but I really didn't learn to cook until I was an adult on my own. I ended up really enjoying it and would like to think I am good at it, but it's, quite frankly, embarrassing to have to learn really basic cooking stuff as an adult. I think there's a happy medium between that and my great-uncle, who learned to cook as an eleven-year-old because his mother worked in a mill, his dad was a neer-do-well drunk, he was the oldest, and someone had to feed him and his five younger siblings. That being said, he still ended up liking it, and at 90, he's still a pretty amazing cook and baker. Any time I talk to him, we start talking about recipes, and he always tells me that he's so happy that he learned to be self-sufficient and not helpless in the kitchen like a lot of men his age.

I actually owe him a cheesecake recipe, which I should be typing up rather than typing this comment. LOL 

[andromeda331]

On 4/29/2023 at 10:47 AM, floridamom said:

My post regarding the photo of Izzy cooking was that I hope he wasn't responsible for the family's meals at his age. I agree that this is a good life skill that we all should learn. Helping out; making simple things is great; not being responsible to feed the family.

That was my first thought too. I hope that's not what Jill's doing. I hope that he's just cooking to help out or he wants too. Or even Jill thinks he should learn to cook. 

[Jeeves]

On 4/29/2023 at 10:47 AM, floridamom said:

My post regarding the photo of Izzy cooking was that I hope he wasn't responsible for the family's meals at his age. I agree that this is a good life skill that we all should learn. Helping out; making simple things is great; not being responsible to feed the family.

 

7 hours ago, andromeda331 said:

That was my first thought too. I hope that's not what Jill's doing. I hope that he's just cooking to help out or he wants too. Or even Jill thinks he should learn to cook. 

It's not surprising that those thoughts popped up on sight of the photo, given the overall Duggar history of domestic arrangements. I'm no Duggar fan at all. I don't know what was in the minds of Jill, Jessa, and Joy when they got married. Maybe they expected to quickly recreate the parenting situation that was modeled for them at home, where the mom was Queen Bee and the kids were minions doing all the "jurisdictions" aka housework. But of course you can't have babies or toddlers doing that kind of work. Not to mention that none of them is pumping out kids at Meech's rate anyway - so the available kidpower isn't as plentiful as they grow up. (I bet Jessa *wishes* to hell she'd have some twins, though.)

If that were a photo of one of Jessa's kids I might have had the same thought myself. But, though we've snarked freely on her beige food SM posts from a few years ago, Jill has shown the most interest in cooking for her family. She's also had Izzy in organized swim lessons, and IIRC has taken Izzy and Sam to (gasp) the public library. I just don't get the vibe that she's gonna retire to the master bedroom suite and sip Starbucks while she's on her exercise machine, leaving the boys do all the cooking and cleaning and homeschool each other. Obviously YMMV.

[GeeGolly]

I think the post of Izzy cooking is just that - Izzy cooking. Do I think Jill might ask Iz or Sam for some help around the house here or there? For sure. And she should. Kids should be doing kid sized chores and they need to step up and do extra help every once in a while. We (possibly) shall see what the future brings.

Nothing Jill has done thus far leans me either way. The boys go to swimming lessons because Jill is paid to send them. Izzy's school situation seems to be null and void at this point. Jill does seem to get overwhelmed easily and she still does follow a few of her Fundy upbringing childrearing ways. So maybe I'm ever so slightly tipped in the "buddy system" direction.

I'm not sure we'll ever know at this point because Jill has become more aware of what she's posting, or more specifically what she's not posting.

[Ohiopirate02]

On 4/29/2023 at 9:32 AM, Jeeves said:

I don't think Jill grew up in a home where the sons were expected to learn to cook. Did the Duggars' TV show have any scenes where the sons were learning to cook? I don't count flipping burgers on an outdoor grill (which is of course very manly). We've snarked like crazy on her social media posts with beige dishes and the "tossed salad and homemade bread" lines, but IIRC she's shown - or at least shared on SM - more genuine interest in cooking than any of her siblings.

There was one episode of the show where they flipped the jurisdictions of the boys and girls.  The boys were in charge of whatever the girls normally were with Michelle leading them and the girls were with JB doing the manly chores.  I don't remember which recipes the boys made though.  I do remember JB showing the older girls how to check the oil in the cars.

[Gemma Violet]

3 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

The boys go to swimming lessons because Jill is paid to send them.

Who pays her?

[Salacious Kitty]

20 minutes ago, Gemma Violet said:

Who pays her?

The swim club sponsor. She gets free lessons for the kids.

Edited May 1, 2023 by Salacious Kitty

[Snow Fairy]

Are we sure the swimm lessions for all 3 boys are free? I somewhat highly doubt it 

And yes, she has shown Freddy takes swimm lession too

[SMama]

Even with free lessons Jill and Derick must drive them to/from class, and it looks like at times the adults participate. I’m sure Jessa could obtain free classes too (like Amy and Joy) but it’ll be a cold day in hell when she takes time from her do nothing schedule to provide her children that life saving experience.

[GeeGolly]

3 hours ago, Gemma Violet said:

Who pays her?

2 hours ago, Snow Fairy said:

Are we sure the swimm lessions for all 3 boys are free? I somewhat highly doubt it 

And yes, she has shown Freddy takes swimm lession too

Jill's posts say paid sponsor. I'm guessing she gets free lessons and a small cash amount too.

Influencers make real money shilling products. Its not just freebies.

[lookeyloo]

Even though they are being paid and get lessons for free, the kids are the real beneficiaries.  They learn a skill, get comfortable in the water, see other children, etc.  I am thinking this can only be good for them, regardless if their parents behave poorly  regarding their education.

[RandomX]

I don’t follow Jill on SM and only see what’s posted here, so may not have the full context. That said: I’m glad when I see her kids presented as individuals and not always in general chaotic ensemble mode.

I hope they get back to school next semester I held out hope that they were Quiet Schooling but that has faded.

[Jeeves]

1 hour ago, RandomX said:

I don’t follow Jill on SM and only see what’s posted here, so may not have the full context. That said: I’m glad when I see her kids presented as individuals and not always in general chaotic ensemble mode.

"General chaotic ensemble mode" = excellent description of the typical Duggar and Seewald situation.

[floridamom]

I, too, don't follow Jill or anyone here on their instagrams/facebooks etc. I only see what you kind posters post here of these videos and I appreciate it very much. Thanks to you all for doing so!

[mimionthebeach]

On 4/29/2023 at 9:32 AM, Jeeves said:

I ain't nominating Jill for MOTY, but I'm not alarmed by that snap of Izzy standing at the stove. Just possibly, he really is interested in cooking. And just possibly, Jill not only recognizes that, she's allowing him to participate, appropriately, in meal prep along with her. He's old enough, and tall enough, to learn by doing about hot stoves and skillets and saucepans. He's not a feral toddler turned loose in the kitchen. 

I don't think Jill grew up in a home where the sons were expected to learn to cook. Did the Duggars' TV show have any scenes where the sons were learning to cook? I don't count flipping burgers on an outdoor grill (which is of course very manly). We've snarked like crazy on her social media posts with beige dishes and the "tossed salad and homemade bread" lines, but IIRC she's shown - or at least shared on SM - more genuine interest in cooking than any of her siblings.

And she's sharing a photo of her MALE CHILD at a stove, learning to cook. I treasure the idea of JB seeing that and being displeased. Heh.

It's disappointing to me that she's homeschooling Izzy and Sam. Such a step backwards. Ugh. At least she's not showing us the kind of pointless depressing kid videos and images that Jessa puts out there. I think her kids aren't left to wander around the house in a semi-feral unkempt state - like their Seewald cousins are portrayed on SM by their proud mom.

I know, low bar. 

John David taught Jinger to grind the grain and make the bread. He probably learned because Josh was too busy being the Golden Penis and Jana had her hands full with 7 toddlers and an infant. 

[libgirl2]

On 4/29/2023 at 6:32 PM, CalicoKitty said:

I would bet he is a better cook than his aunt Jessa.  I wonder if there are any kid cooking classes in their area.  I always enjoy watching the Kid's Baking Championship, and am amazed at how well some kids can cook and bake.  I wish my mother, and especially my grandmother, could have been as good in the kitchen.  (My grandma was truly a horrible cook)

Did  you ever see the Kid's Masterchef? I was in awe of what they could come up with. 

[auntieminem]

Glad to see Jill is taking the boys to the library.  She posted on FB and instagram asking for book recommendations.  https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=807054330784682&set=a.240274654129322

Hopefully they will get the kids back in public schools. I don't know that they are not in public school  but it appears they are not. 

[GeeGolly]

7 minutes ago, auntieminem said:

Glad to see Jill is taking the boys to the library.  She posted on FB and instagram asking for book recommendations.  https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=807054330784682&set=a.240274654129322

Hopefully they will get the kids back in public schools. I don't know that they are not in public school  but it appears they are not. 

I wonder why she goes to the library in OK and not AR?

[Salacious Kitty]

8 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

I wonder why she goes to the library in OK and not AR?

I wondered the same. 

[auntieminem]

Probably going to visit Derick while they are in town at the library.  

[Salacious Kitty]

12 minutes ago, auntieminem said:

Probably going to visit Derick while they are in town at the library.  

I think they went to the library while Derick was actually working. It looks like Jill is packing up the kids to bring him his lunch, just like the good ole days at Wal-Mart.

[ireneemace]

On 4/21/2023 at 7:57 PM, Madtown said:

This is why I was floored when she announced she was pregnant again. I thought that both boys would be in school and maybe she would be able to volunteer somewhere. Hell, she could've worked in the thrift store she and Amy are constantly shopping at.
I truly think Jill is afraid to be at home by herself. Look how many times she went to see Derick at Walmart before Izzy was born. There was no way she was going to be able to go to the courthouse or wherever Derick is working and sit with him all day till the boys were out of school.
I'm hoping maybe they are doing online school(thought something was mentioned here about this option). She sucked at homeschooling Izzy or at least trying to teach him basics and she was completely overwhelmed with it when Sam was born.
It's so sad that they were brought up in such a hateful home where going to school was shamed upon. The only friends they had were their siblings. It amazes me that none of these people want better for their kids. They can't get past that not everything taught in school is evil.
I'm the youngest of 3, I was in the same school with my oldest sibling for a year and 2 years with my middle sibling. My mom survived with us going to different schools. Though she didn't take us, we had one car. We walked to school(We were a couple blocks from the elementry school). Middle school and high school, we either took  the city bus or walked. Yes, it was a much different time, but making a point.

I absolutely agree with you, I like people who can so well express their point of view, I admire you 🤩

[auntieminem]

It is Jill's 32nd birthday.  https://www.instagram.com/p/CsV_TeZuKC1/

 

[oliviabenson]