Jill, Derick & the Kids: Moving On!!

[JoanArc]

1 hour ago, BetyBee said:

I think the fundies and certainly the Duggar/Dillards are already moving towards opposition to (hatred of) lgbtq in case abortion becomes completely illegal.  There will always be pathways to try to force their viewpoint on others.  

True, but even that hill won't last much longer, and it's a lot of preaching to the choir there. Ironically LGBTQ acceptance would increase church attendance in many places. Kind of hard to sell as a lifestyle, as well.

[dariafan]

I was watching Legally Blond the other night.   I was rooting for Elle. I will not be rooting for Derrick ( I refuse to spell his name the same way as my brother)

[galaxychaser]

Anyone planning to watch Unplanned?

Izzy and Sam will be just as ignorant and hateful as #bestpapaever #bestwifeyever.  Its just all they know and will ever know :(.

[latetotheparty]

36 minutes ago, galaxychaser said:

Anyone planning to watch Unplanned?

Izzy and Sam will be just as ignorant and hateful as #bestpapaever #bestwifeyever.  Its just all they know and will ever know :(.

Not if it was the last film on earth. 

[Sew Sumi]

Beats Jilly Muffin's lunches.

[Absolom]

Huge corn dog, nachos, fries, AND a funnel cake?  It makes my stomach hurt just reading it.  

[ginger90]

[farmgal4]

18 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

Beats Jilly Muffin's lunches.

If his teeth continue to shift, he’ll someday be eating corn on the cob with his back molars.

No one should hold a foot long hotdog like that and then post a picture of it.  

Edited April 2, 2019 by farmgal4

[galaxychaser]

33 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

Beats Jilly Muffin's lunches.

Keyword free! If I ate all that I’d be sick all night long.

Edited April 2, 2019 by galaxychaser

[Ijustwantsomechips]

1 hour ago, Sew Sumi said:

Beats Jilly Muffin's lunches.

It looks like a wild animal chewed his hair off the sides of his head.  Jeez numbnuts, go to Supercuts.

[doodlebug]

3 hours ago, galaxychaser said:

Anyone planning to watch Unplanned?

Izzy and Sam will be just as ignorant and hateful as #bestpapaever #bestwifeyever.  Its just all they know and will ever know :(.

No, because I already have done a little research on the protagonist and it is very clear that her 'true life story' is, in fact, completely fabricated.  And, despite the fact that she says she couldn't find a job after leaving PP, she has made a small fortune selling books and preaching to the fundie choir and is now far better compensated than she ever could have been working in the office at any medical clinic.  What the Duggars find 'impactful', I find calculated and cynical.

Edited April 2, 2019 by doodlebug

[GeeGolly]

1 hour ago, Sew Sumi said:

Beats Jilly Muffin's lunches.

That pic could be interpreted in a plethora of ways. None of which Derick would be pleased with. And it appears it's a selfie.

Dumb and dumber those two are.

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

On 4/1/2019 at 6:08 AM, JoanArc said:

There are shots of blood pooling in the socks of abortion recipients post-op; an overhead view of Abby after her second (RU-486 induced) abortion, sprawled out in a bathroom covered in streaks of gore, as if she were the final-girl survivor in a slasher movie; and an actual abortion sequence. 

Honestly, that just sounds a lot like what happens in birth after the baby is born....I was SHOCKED at the amount of blood/lochia my body expelled in the 3 weeks after birth of my first baby....and according to my doctor it was within the normal range (even though in the first few days it reminded me more of some kind of shark attack scene from Jaws rather than anything like a period).  I was totally unprepared for just how much blood there would be (friends who'd had kids were like "oh, you'll have like a period for a few weeks," which was totally an understatement compared to what my doc called a "normal" experience).   Why even try to scare people away from abortion with blood and guts when birth involves a LOT of blood and guts? If you were grossed out by that scene and decided only based upon that to go through with pregnancy to term, you are in for a big-ass surprise at birth and after. Holy lying liars who lie.

With my second baby, I started to hemorrhage after she and the placenta came out.  It was terrifying (and I'm sure incredibly bloody, but they thankfully didn't let me see).  I felt like I was going to pass out but was terrified I was going to die. NICU and pediatric respiratory had come for the baby because she was a meconimum (sp?) baby.  I remember looking at NICU getting her, being terrified as I heard the hospital staff attending to my bleeding & the baby, fighting the feeling of passing out, and trying to get a good "look" at my baby as NICU worked on her to try "remember" her in case I didn't make it, as well as thinking about my other child. It was awful.  I cannot have anymore kids (don't have the parts anymore, as most of you know), but even if I could, there's no way I'd put my body through the awful things pregnancy/birth did to me or chance a scare like that again when I have two children already to stay healthy for (and to have some modicum of bladder control).  I wouldn't want to chance having that kind of scare like I did when I was hemorrhaging and NICU was there for my baby again EVER.  If I had gotten pregnant after that, I'd laugh in anyone's face who tried to show me via film that abortion was scary or bloody/gross. I'd done bloody/gross before in birth.  (I think something like 60% of women who seek abortions already have kids, so I'm sure that wouldn't scare them away from the procedure either. These Fundies are just so dumb about how they go about being "pro-life."  God forbid they work for programs to help women/families afford/care for children or maternity leave, etc to encourage rather than scare with blood and the devil.)

And that's not even to mention the other fun things pregnancy and childbirth did to my body that I won't list here besides some awful pelvic floor damage.    Maybe I should make a film about the gory, awful, gross stuff that happens in pregnancy, childbirth, and after....because I'm pretty sure carrying a pregnancy to term and having a baby is way more gory and dangerous than a RU-486 induced abortion. (These people really need to Google the down-right terrifying stats about maternal death rates in the United States!) Maybe that would help counteract the "having-babies-is-everything-and-the-main-part-of-being-a-woman-and-you-don't-even-need-a-real-medical-professional" nonsense these Fundies constantly promote.  After all I (and other women who opened up to me after pregnancies/births have shared they also) went through with the pregnancies and births of my babies, I am offended that they have the audacity to promote a film that shows how "gory" abortion is when the cult of motherhood ignores the way bloodier and more dangerous physical effects on births on women's bodies and they want to force women to go through with pregnancies and births that they don't want.  Maybe they could work to lobby for lawmakers who would try to address our country's position as #1 in maternal death rates in the developed world (& Arkansas has the 3rd highest maternal death rate in the US).  If you care about babies and women (Ha, we know it's fetuses only that they care about), maybe turn your attention to the women who die in your own state as a consequences of giving birth to those babies you claim to care so much about! Show you care about those poor babies' mothers.

Sorry for the rant.  BTW, Hey Derick, did you know a baby can bruise (or even break) his mother's rib when he's still in her uterus? Yep, my son bruised mine by kicking me in the ribs when I was 9 months pregnant!  Neat little known fact!  It hurt like heck but that's totally not even close to one of the most weird/painful/gross things I experienced with pregnancies/giving birth.  Hey Derick and other Fundie Men Folk- Talk to me about promoting a film that shows how bloody/gross abortion is after you've carried a baby to term (with all the neat/gross/weird stuff it does to your body), given birth, passed lochia for weeks after, dealt with pre-natal depression/psychosis, dealth with post-partum depression/psychosis, had your nether-bits torn and sheared, cried in fear of that first post-birth bowel movement, worried how you were going to pay bills without paid maternity leave, worried how you weren't going to lose your job since with no mandatory maternity leave and not enough FMLA left, etc.  I'm offended by this film on so many levels and anyone who promotes it. (And Jill, I'm pretty darn sure the average abortion is less involved, painful, etc than last-minute emergency c-sections, if we're comparing gore, blood, etc). I can't with these people. I hope to hell that they didn't watch/discuss this with Lauren since she miscarried and the abortion pill basically causes the same stuff. Ugh. These people!

/ rant over

Edited April 2, 2019 by MyPeopleAreNordic

[allonsyalice]

2 hours ago, ginger90 said:

does anyone believe this???

[Sew Sumi]

10 minutes ago, allonsyalice said:

does anyone believe this???

Nope. It's bullshit revisionist history.

[GeeGolly]

I think it's true, however with a different meaning than Derick is implying.

I think they were letting the Dillards quietly fade away without fanfare or finger pointing after they were let go. Then Derick again did a hate tweet. I'm guessing TLC felt the push back by viewers and felt they had to announce their break-up with the Dillards.

[Nysha]

10 hours ago, BetyBee said:

I think the fundies and certainly the Duggar/Dillards are already moving towards opposition to (hatred of) lgbtq in case abortion becomes completely illegal. 

I think hatred of lgbtq will be a harder hill to mount than abortion. I know a lot of anti-abortion Christians who have no problems with the lgbtq community. These days most families have a beloved family member who is out and they realize that love is love and people are people. Abortion is an easy one to oppose because "Murdering Babies!" I think if it became illegal, hard-core Christians would move on to further demonize birth control, women's health clinics, and illegitimate births.

[BigBingerBro]

So wait, where was that comment found?  Is it from a TLC Countin On Facebook comments section?   Does he actually spend time reading the comments to see what people are saying about him?   He needs to move on.

[ginger90]

5 minutes ago, BigBingerBro said:

So wait, where was that comment found?  Is it from a TLC Countin On Facebook comments section?   Does he actually spend time reading the comments to see what people are saying about him?   He needs to move on.

It was on Derick’s Twitter.

[Sew Sumi]

In all seriousness, I think the Dullards had problems with TLC regarding payment for Izzy's birth, but the Jazz posts galvanized the network. 

[Jenniferbug]

It is ridiculous how they all keep yammering on about what an impact this movie had on them. How? Not a one of them was pro choice before seeing that movie. Nothing in their attitudes or opinions about abortion were changed by watching this movie. It did not impact them in the slightest.

[DangerousMinds]

18 minutes ago, Jenniferbug said:

It is ridiculous how they all keep yammering on about what an impact this movie had on them. How? Not a one of them was pro choice before seeing that movie. Nothing in their attitudes or opinions about abortion were changed by watching this movie. It did not impact them in the slightest.

Exactly.

[doodlebug]

15 minutes ago, Jenniferbug said:

It is ridiculous how they all keep yammering on about what an impact this movie had on them. How? Not a one of them was pro choice before seeing that movie. Nothing in their attitudes or opinions about abortion were changed by watching this movie. It did not impact them in the slightest.

All it did was support their already poorly informed and narrow viewpoint.  What if someone made a film where a woman had a serious health problem and  was counseled that terminating the pregnancy would be the best option but she declined and both she and the baby died horrible deaths?  Or a film about a woman who discovers that her child has devastating, non-treatable birth defects and decides to continue the pregnancy and we get to see her going to work, grocery shopping, even interacting with friends and family where she has to constantly deal with people asking when she is due, what she is having, what names she's chosen.  Or face telling her friends to cancel the baby shower.  Then, let's see her go through a difficult labor and delivery and have the child be born, only to die a day or two later.  No matter how anyone feels about abortion, it is the height of arrogance to tell people facing devastating choices that they have no right to make their own decisions.

[DangerousMinds]

They want he “other side” to give this propaganda a chance, but certainly won’t reciprocate and view any pro choice films or materials.

[doodlebug]

14 minutes ago, DangerousMinds said:

They want he “other side” to give this propaganda a chance, but certainly won’t reciprocate and view any pro choice films or materials.

Or, suppose someone had the nerve to make a film that depicted the truth of what happens when safe and legal terminations are not available? Would they watch that film and encourage others to look at things in a different way?  Somehow, I doubt this crowd has watched 'A Handmaid's Tale'.  For that matter, 'Call the Midwife' would be far too liberal for them, what with even the nuns concerned about the women in their neighborhood who are having illegal abortions and facing deadly complications.  A bunch of nuns who don't turn any woman in need away, who don't lecture or hand out Bible tracts or try to shame a woman who has tried to end a pregnancy; who are actually empathetic and understanding that real people leading real lives are often faced with impossible choices and have to do the best they can.

Edited April 2, 2019 by doodlebug

[bigskygirl]

34 minutes ago, doodlebug said:

All it did was support their already poorly informed and narrow viewpoint.  What if someone made a film where a woman had a serious health problem and  was counseled that terminating the pregnancy would be the best option but she declined and both she and the baby died horrible deaths?  Or a film about a woman who discovers that her child has devastating, non-treatable birth defects and decides to continue the pregnancy and we get to see her going to work, grocery shopping, even interacting with friends and family where she has to constantly deal with people asking when she is due, what she is having, what names she's chosen.  Or face telling her friends to cancel the baby shower.  Then, let's see her go through a difficult labor and delivery and have the child be born, only to die a day or two later.  No matter how anyone feels about abortion, it is the height of arrogance to tell people facing devastating choices that they have no right to make their own decisions.

My mother had a very rough pregnancy when I was five or six. She had to be rushed to Great Falls by ambulance with a nurse. She almost died and my baby brother was still born. He would have been severely disabled, in constant pain 24/7, numerous health issues, and would died within a few months. My parents were not the best parents in the world, but I know they would not have wanted their son to suffer, and to see what it would have done to their other children. I am pro-choice especially in situations like this. I never got to know my brother, but I feel he is with me, and we have a special bond. Plus the fact, he is my guardian angel who has help me get through some hard times in my life.

The Duggars have no rights to tell a woman what to do. After what Smugs did to his own sisters more than once. He violated his sisters' rights for safety and respect in relations to their own bodies, and Ma and Pa Stupid did nothing to protect their own daughters, so they have no rights to tell others how to live.

Edited April 2, 2019 by bigskygirl

[bigskygirl]

Darn it! I keep hitting the wrong button. Nothing to see here.

Edited April 2, 2019 by bigskygirl

[Sew Sumi]

21 minutes ago, doodlebug said:

Or, suppose someone had the nerve to make a film that depicted the truth of what happens when safe and legal terminations are not available? Would they watch that film and encourage others to look at things in a different way?  Somehow, I doubt this crowd has watched 'A Handmaid's Tale'.  For that matter, 'Call the Midwife' would be far too liberal for them, what with even the nuns concerned about the women in their neighborhood who are having illegal abortions and facing deadly complications.  A bunch of nuns who don't turn any woman in need away, who don't lecture or hand out Bible tracts or try to shame a woman who has tried to end a pregnancy; who are actually empathetic and understanding that real people leading real lives are often faced with impossible choices and have to do the best they can.

I'd pay to see them watch the last  episode of Call the Midwife, in which a back alley abortion went all wrong. The young woman ended up having a hysterectomy. Is that what they really want?

[bigskygirl]

4 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

I'd pay to see them watch the last  episode of Call the Midwife, in which a back alley abortion went all wrong. The young woman ended up having a hysterectomy. Is that what they really want?

What do you expect? These are the same people who think a woman should be happy to find out she was pregnant after being raped.

Edited April 2, 2019 by bigskygirl

[Ohiopirate02]

43 minutes ago, DangerousMinds said:

They want he “other side” to give this propaganda a chance, but certainly won’t reciprocate and view any pro choice films or materials.

I believe in their minds the only women who seek terminations are selfish, vain sluts who would rather keep on living their sinful secular lives then to take care of a child.  They believe that us heathen women are having abortions left and right because we need Jesus.   So if we see this movie we will have a change of heart, find the right Jesus, stop drinking,  find a godly husband, quit our jobs, and start birthin babies.

[frenchtoast]

Let's move back to Jill and Derrick please. The abortion talk has gone past a quick tangent to becoming the main discussion and that's not what PTV is for. Thanks!

[whydoiwatch]

1 hour ago, Sew Sumi said:

I'd pay to see them watch the last  episode of Call the Midwife, in which a back alley abortion went all wrong. The young woman ended up having a hysterectomy. Is that what they really want?

My all time favorite show. Jill and Dick are so far removed from the kind, compassionate and humble characters on Call the Midwife and yet they have somehow deemed themselves superior.

[bigskygirl]

They are more stupudior than superior.

[CalicoKitty]

19 minutes ago, whydoiwatch said:

My all time favorite show. Jill and Dick are so far removed from the kind, compassionate and humble characters on Call the Midwife and yet they have somehow deemed themselves superior.

More removed in education, too.

[bigskygirl]

8 minutes ago, CalicoKitty said:

More removed in education, too.

And the sad part is Deredick got a college education and has been out in the real world compared to Jill's stunted education at the kitchen table and stunted real world experiences.

[awaken]

7 hours ago, farmgal4 said:

If his teeth continue to shift, he’ll someday be eating corn on the cob with his back molars.

No one should hold a foot long hotdog like that and then post a picture of it.  

He has a thing about posting pics like this...a few months ago it was a turkey leg 😳

[mythoughtis]

I’m just going to leave this here because I am speechless: 

https://okmagazine.com/photos/jill-duggar-kids-photo-adoption-news/

[Sew Sumi]

She'll be there shoving Jesus down the throats of unwed pregnant hussies. She will NOT be adopting their children.

[mythoughtis]

23 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

She'll be there shoving Jesus down the throats of unwed pregnant hussies. She will NOT be adopting their children.

Let hope not anyway. These two don’t seem to appreciate the two they have. 

[floridamom]

IF the Dillard's next child is not a biological one; I think we will have our answer about Sam's botched delivery and the hysterectomy/Jill question.

[JoanArc]

That headline took five years off my life. Even a fundie adoption agency isn’t giving a totally unemployed, likely in student debt, with only the vague hope of being a lawyer, a child.

Jill would be there to deliver the unwanted child (maybe even getting a delivery right!) and hand the slut mother a slice of banana bread, then bail. At least Cathy could mention how she’s adopted, for the millionth time.

[Ohiopirate02]

2 hours ago, JoanArc said:

That headline took five years off my life. Even a fundie adoption agency isn’t giving a totally unemployed, likely in student debt, with only the vague hope of being a lawyer, a child.

Jill would be there to deliver the unwanted child (maybe even getting a delivery right!) and hand the slut mother a slice of banana bread, then bail. At least Cathy could mention how she’s adopted, for the millionth time.

I cannot see them being allowed to adopt a child nor foster a child while they are living in that apartment/duplex.   Now if they were still living in the larger house, I could see where they might qualify as foster parents.  

[dariafan]

20 hours ago, ginger90 said:

Is he ducking serious ??? 

2 hours ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

I cannot see them being allowed to adopt a child nor foster a child while they are living in that apartment/duplex.   Now if they were still living in the larger house, I could see where they might qualify as foster parents.  

Well cps just needs to see where they let the boys climb and just video them... they aren’t getting any kids they didn’t birth 

[Readalot]

21 hours ago, Absolom said:

Huge corn dog, nachos, fries, AND a funnel cake?  It makes my stomach hurt just reading it.  

Does he go to school at the state fair or traveling carnival? 

[Trillium]

That headline is super misleading. She did not confirm that they are anywhere in the adoption process. Someone asked:

“Will you be there to adopt and help care for the pregnant mom who you forced into not making her own decision? Didn’t think so,”

Jill responded with a “Yes” which is what  pro-lifers always respond with.  I don’t think they have any real plans to adopt. All the Duggars get asked about adopting and they all say “Sure! That’s always a possibility!” It makes them look good without actually having to do anything. Years ago Mr Trillium and I considered adopting, but the financial experience was more than we could afford and then we did have another biological child, who is a handful and we absolutely do not want to add to our family. I don’t go around saying we had plans to adopt. We briefly considered it and did some brief googling. I don’t think that counts at all as planning to adopt. I doubt any of the Duggars have looked into adoption other than thinking “We need to stop those poor babiez from being aborted!” If any of them has even googled “adoption process”, I’d be shocked. 

[galaxychaser]

No way no how any agency would let them adopt a kid.  No employment and no $ for adoption. Isn't adoption fees like $30,000? If they get a relatives kid like J'Tyler aka no paperwork it might happen. Legally no way they will be adopting. 

[Heathen]

1 hour ago, dariafan said:

Is he ducking serious ??? 

Well cps just needs to see where they let the boys climb and just video them... they aren’t getting any kids they didn’t birth 

They're not interested in any kids they didn't birth. This "'we will adopt,' Jill confirms" was just bullshit clickbait, or whatever the print version of clickbait is. 

[PikaScrewChu]

Anyone else following the AMA on Reddit with one of Dullard's TAs?

Big, if true, that he's doing well in his classes.

[Westiepeach]

58 minutes ago, Heathen said:

They're not interested in any kids they didn't birth. This "'we will adopt,' Jill confirms" was just bullshit clickbait, or whatever the print version of clickbait is. 

They're not interested in the kids the DID birth!

[JoanArc]

2 minutes ago, PikaScrewChu said:

Anyone else following the AMA on Reddit with one of Dullard's TAs?

Big, if true, that he's doing well in his classes.

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Yeah he wants to open some missionary thing and be their legal backing. I think he has something going on with a local church where once he graduates he will work as their legal advisor or something. He also talked about how he’s related to a lot of people and how having a lawyer in the family could be helpful in the future (he made the big family comment before I realized he was a duggar)

Sounds like his kind of girft.

Sounds like Jill in't a bother and only came to 3 or 4 classes, and Derick is just  a brave jerk behind the keyboard. His teeth are jacked IRL, though. The poster also claims to have bought a car from Josh, years ago.