Jill, Derick & the Kids: Moving On!!

[EVS]

12 minutes ago, DragonFaerie said:

Don't forget to ask her if she just LOVES Johnny Weir doing the main reporting for the ice skaters?  :-)

Thanks for reminding me. How could I forget Johnny?!  One of my favorite male skaters ever. I know some people don’t like his and Tara’s commentary, but I enjoy it most of the time.   I’ll ask her how she likes his outfit, hair, and makeup. 

[Nysha]

16 hours ago, floridamom said:

It looks like Izzy and Sam should be in bed. Why do these idiot people think it's ok to drag small children 'out' with them at night time events?

It looks like dusk to me, not true night. I'm hoping Izzy and Sam's fond memories of hanging around college students will influence them to want to attend college themselves.

[Jynnan tonnix]

2 hours ago, BetyBee said:

Cathy's condescending post for a favor drips with contempt - I'm guessing for liberals.  Her "conservative christian" brain can't conceive of anyone different from her rooting for their shared country.  She and Derelict prefer to think the worst of those who hold different beliefs from their "correct" thinking.  They really are hateful, close minded people, professing a devotion to a Jesus who would likely be appalled by their attitudes.  

And one of the things is that die-hard "liberals" make up far less of the voters than she probably imagines. I voted Republican quite a number of times back in the day, and even though I lean slightly left on most issues, I'm still very much moderate overall. And I suspect that there are a lot of people with that general mindset out there. 

Honestly, this thread over the past day or so (haven't been paying close attention as we have been celebrating Mom's 84th birthday, but she's sleeping now) has had me handing out "likes" right and left and wishing I could multiply most of them tenfold. So many amazing posts and insights!

[charmed1]

On 2/9/2018 at 11:10 PM, Jynnan tonnix said:

Am I the only one who sort of likes Jinger's outfit? It looks like something I'd have worn when I was still young and thin. Of course, that was in the early 80's and maybe it was in style then? I don't know...I don't pay too much attention to fashion as a rule, so other than the big hair and shoulder pads, both of which suited me (I have naturally curly hair and very narrow shoulders), I don't recall any particularly iconic 80's look.

Anyway, I like the color combination, and would be more prone to wear that outfit than any other in the picture. But with Jana's shoes.

I actually like it and liked it more when I thought she was wearing high waisted palazzo pants. I don’t like the shoes though. The color is too light. She’d look even better with a shoulder length hair cut.

[Marigold]

What liberal lies, Derick?

They are HIS tweets.  He tweeted them. They are his words.  We all read them. Did someone hack his twitter? 

And if Derick is truly concerned about Jazz being abused, there are better ways to address it, not attack her on social media.  That is the wrong way to handle any situation. 

[GeeGolly]

I wonder where J & D are financially? Do they have any income now? Derick claims a job, yet won't say what it is. Rent, 2 kids, a car, cell phones, groceries, etc. Will they end up moving into the TTH or Cathy's? 

I'm guessing Jill & Derick will be the first of the adult kids to struggle financially and it will be interesting to see how they manage.

[Celia Rubenstein]

13 hours ago, DragonFaerie said:

Don't forget to ask her if she just LOVES Johnny Weir doing the main reporting for the ice skaters?  :-)

Someone needs to tweet Derrick and ask him how he feels about ice dancing. Let's see what his nonsensical response would be.

I'm thinking something along the lines of  "I like iced tea."

[bigskygirl]

1 hour ago, GeeGolly said:

I wonder where J & D are financially? Do they have any income now? Derick claims a job, yet won't say what it is. Rent, 2 kids, a car, cell phones, groceries, etc. Will they end up moving into the TTH or Cathy's? 

I'm guessing Jill & Derick will be the first of the adult kids to struggle financially and it will be interesting to see how they manage.

Josh was probably the first one to struggle after losing his D.C. job and had to move back home. I doubt he is having success selling used cars and taking care of his wife and five kids money wise.

[Scarlett45]

On 2/9/2018 at 11:24 PM, BitterApple said:

I have to say, I was having several hundred defrauding thoughts about Hot Tongan during the opening ceremony.

@Sew Sumi & @BitterApple I was a bundle of defrauding thoughts. I say he joined men’s cross country skiing just for me- that’s my fantasy and I’m sticking to it. Off to the prayer closet I go! 

Edited February 11, 2018 by Scarlett45

[GeeGolly]

1 hour ago, bigskygirl said:

Josh was probably the first one to struggle after losing his D.C. job and had to move back home. I doubt he is having success selling used cars and taking care of his wife and five kids money wise.

I thought of Josh too. Josh had 2 homes and 2 jobs before being fired from both and started working for JB right after Jesus Camp. Maybe he's starting to feel it now. I think the only cushion Jill & Derick have is whatever TLC money Jill/they have saved which I'm thinking they're dipping into now. Derick doesn't seem the type that could fix a fence or sell a car for his life.

[bigskygirl]

Josh does not seem to the be type or could sell a car or fix a fence either. Both couples do not have the sense God gave a piece of wood. Okay, I take it back. A piece of wood can useful. Josh/Anna and Derick/Jill not so much.

[cmr2014]

Jill and Derick were living in the McMansion when Derick worked for WalMart. They should have been able to save the majority of his salary. Derick was also on payroll at SOS and had free housing. During that time, they were also grifting for cash with "Dillard Family Ministries." Once again, they should have been able to save a big chunk of that. Any appearance money from Counting On would have been additional income over what they already had coming in from Derick's "jobs."

There's no question (in my mind) that Josh, Joe, Ben and Josiah are under JB's "umbrella of authority" and get their income from Duggar Enterprises at JB's discretion. I think Derick may chafe at that, but it wouldn't surprise me if he did, too. He can bloviate and disassemble all he wants on his twitter feed, but he's a coward and a weakling, and I don't think it would be that hard to bring him to heel.

[Marigold]

4 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

I wonder where J & D are financially? Do they have any income now? Derick claims a job, yet won't say what it is. Rent, 2 kids, a car, cell phones, groceries, etc. Will they end up moving into the TTH or Cathy's? 

I'm guessing Jill & Derick will be the first of the adult kids to struggle financially and it will be interesting to see how they manage.

Now there's an interesting question.

My guess is that they will move into the TTH because they are missionaries and Jim Bob is "supporting their mission work". 

Or, Jim Bob will "donate" money to his missionary son in law. 

[kokapetl]

On 11/02/2018 at 2:37 AM, Celia Rubenstein said:

Really? Cathy asks that all Americans cheer for the Olympic athletes as a "favor" for her ??? A favor? For her? 

I feel like I'm nitpicking on everything she says, but to me that just sounds so self important. Like, in order  bring Cathy happiness, we should all join together and do this thing that we wouldn't do otherwise. 

Uhhh, Cathy ... The majority of Americans probably are on some level going to be cheering for the Olympic athletes . They really don't need you to burn a personal favor with all of America in order to receive support. I actually don't think you have that much pull with all of America to begin with. But if you think that as a personal favor to you, you can persuade the masses to do something they would never consider doing in the first place ... more power to you. 

I just can't with her anymore. 

But if you do, she’ll owe you one. 

[Celia Rubenstein]

I'm not sure how useful being owed one from Cathy is these days .... apparently she's been back in the hospital which means she's on Jesus's shit list. Doesn't seem like she's going to be in a position to pull any strings for me for a while ...

[Sew Sumi]

I guess this is part of Derelict's "homework?"

[ginger90]

“Had a good time nonetheless “ ?  ? 

[kokapetl]

4 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

I guess this is part of Derelict's "homework?"

Isn't that the outfit he got married in?

Why do the kids have stickers on their backs?

Edited February 11, 2018 by Kokapetl

[PradaKitty]

That suit is too big for him and the shoes are the wrong color.  He looks like an idiot...

[Arwen Evenstar]

Would you have rather seen his interpretive dance?

[ginger90]

I wonder if Jill was in the room.

[Sew Sumi]

5 minutes ago, Arwen Evenstar said:

Would you have rather seen his interpretive dance?

The kids might have understood that more than a straight up lecture. WE, OTOH, would have cringed. And snarked, of course. 

Edited February 11, 2018 by Sew Sumi

[Arwen Evenstar]

2 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

I wonder if Jill was in the room.

Who took the photos?  

[Sew Sumi]

I also wanted to point out that Derelict is definitely lying about his position at the church. The following is a list of staff at Cross Church. You will not find his name amongst these people. I did find out that the Fayetteville campus is offering the financial training seminar twice a week (two different seminars, not one seminar twice a week) starting at the end of February. 

http://crosschurch.com/staff/

He's delusional about his role at the church. 

Edited February 11, 2018 by Sew Sumi
felt the need to re-state the obvious

[Celia Rubenstein]

46 minutes ago, Kokapetl said:

Why do the kids have stickers on their backs?

It has the kid's name on it. So when they pass out face down on the floor from boredom, you can just call their parent over to carry them out of the room without having to roll the kid over to identify them or anything.

[GeeGolly]

50 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

I guess this is part of Derelict's "homework?"

None of this makes sense to me, not the hashtags, not the power point with 5 year olds, not the suit, nothing makes sense.

[DragonFaerie]

21 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

I also wanted to point out that Derelict is definitely lying about his position at the church. The following is a list of staff at Cross Church. You will not find his name amongst these people. I did find out that the Fayetteville campus is offering the financial training seminar twice a week (two different seminars, not one seminar twice a week) starting at the end of February. 

http://crosschurch.com/staff/

He's delusional about his role at the church. 

I am curious and wonder if anyone at Christ Church - the staff that is, knows that Derelik is advertising himself as staff.

[DragonFaerie]

13 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

None of this makes sense to me, not the hashtags, not the power point with 5 year olds, not the suit, nothing makes sense.

 

1 hour ago, Sew Sumi said:

I guess this is part of Derelict's "homework?"

If this is homework, he's gonna fail his course.  Giving a "power point" lecture to young children - fail.  At least this power point - it looks like files or something?  Not interacting with the children and facing the board - fail.  Horrific fitting suit, with pants that look like they haven't been ironed in a year - fail.  Those shoes - fail, fail, fail.   And the I got stuck working with kids but I still, somehow found it within myself to have a good time - WTF??

[Sew Sumi]

Cross Church likely has no clue that Derelict is passing himself off as "staff." The place is pretty big, and I doubt his 'professors" follow his twatter. 

Had to post this gem of delusion that he retwatted w/r/t millenial women choosing to become SAHM over working. 

Edited February 11, 2018 by Sew Sumi

[Celia Rubenstein]

11 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

None of this makes sense to me, not the hashtags, not the power point with 5 year olds, not the suit, nothing makes sense.

If you zoom in on the screen, you'll understand. On the left side is a column headed "perfectly reasonable questions." The middle column is headed "perfectly reasonable answers" and the column on the right is headed "how Derrick would respond."

He's been teaching a class in how to frustrate the piss out of people on Twitter.

[Celia Rubenstein]

2 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

Probably not. The place is pretty big, and I doubt his mentors follow his twatter. 

Had to post this gem of delusion that he retwatted w/r/t millenial women choosing to become SAHM over working. 

Hold up a second ... Millenials are the first generation to be raised by working mothers? I think Derrick needs to consult a calendar. Because I'm a solid member of Generation X and I was raised by a working mother.  Probably three quarters of my class in school had working mothers. Millennials are not the first generation to be raised by working mothers. 

And believe me my mother ( who was raised by a stay-at-home mother)  didn't go to work because she had a romantic view of being some kind of career girl. We needed a roof over our head and food on the table. That's why my mother worked. Later when I became a mother myself, I made the decision to stay at home and I was only able to do so because we didn't need my income to have food on the table and a roof over our head. Not because I had overcome some kind of romantic view of being a career girl due to seeing my own mother work. 

 This is really one of the dumbest things he's ever said .... so ignorant, so patronizing .... just throat punch worthy!

[Chicklet]

Good grief these people are a special kind of stupid. Latch key kid here but I am a baby-boomer with more in common with GenX'ers than other baby boomers. My mother worked, my grandmother worked and her mother worked.

I think they just make up their own "facts". 

Edited February 11, 2018 by Chicklet

[crazycatlady58]

1 hour ago, Sew Sumi said:

I guess this is part of Derelict's "homework?"

Ok this is nuts. About  the only thing he has right  is the kids are sitting on the floor not in chairs. I wonder  how long they stayed  that way? 5 minutes ? 

[Sew Sumi]

4 minutes ago, Chicklet said:

Good grief these people are a special kind of stupid. Latch key kid here but I am a baby-boomer with more in common with GenX'ers than other baby boomers. My mother worked, my grandmother worked and her mother worked.

I think they just make up their own "facts". 

Exactly. They're acting as if boomer/GenX women were the first to work outside the home. Dumbasses. 

[bigskygirl]

My mother did not go to work until my dad left. She had to learn to drive because she was not allowed to get her driver's license due to having a seizure disorder for years before going out to work. My husband's youngest sister went back to work after her husband died because she has two sons at home to take care of. Not all women have a romantic view of work, but they work outside of home to keep a roof over their children's heads and food to eat because the husband/father has left or died or are deadbeat fathers who do not pay any type of support. Instead of running off at the mouth again, he should be going after deadbeat fathers. Of course, in his small pathetic mind it is the mother's fault instead of taking a long hard look at the father. I do remember a few of you saying he may be angry because his mother worked. I am starting to agree with this point of view.

Edited February 11, 2018 by bigskygirl
Learn proper English one day

[Spencer Hastings]

1 hour ago, ginger90 said:

“Had a good time nonetheless “ ?  ? 

I guess he does NOT have a heart for children. 

The children don’t seem to be engaged with his PowerPoint presentation...imagine that. 

[Chicklet]

I guess his statement also proves he doesn't know any history- WW2 Dreck? Women in droves, including MOTHERS, went out to work because all the men were away doing something with guns or something.

Don't they teach history at that university in Oklahoma?

[bythelake]

59 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

None of this makes sense to me, not the hashtags, not the power point with 5 year olds, not the suit, nothing makes sense.

He was probably assigned to this class because the kids are too young to understand stupid. Older kids or adults would have booed him out of the room. Poor kids look like they're waiting for a cartoon to come on, instead, they're looking at green folders. Maybe, it's a  sort of fundie hypnotism.

[Temperance]

I also think it's his wedding suit. 

Also many generations of women of my family worked when they no longer had little children and the family needed money. @Chicklet That too! 

I suppose Derick is one of those people who also has realistic and not romanticized notions of work, which is why he chooses to stay at home with his young family. 

[Totally]

I hate myself for saying this but my son would have been captivated by a power point presentation. Probably mostly because he rarely watch tv or use iPads/computers 

 

I am lost for words his “Had a good time nonetheless “ comment that’s really sad ?

Edited February 12, 2018 by Totally
To correct my stupidity

[cdp73]

That PowerPoint presentation looks less interesting than ones I've seen about governmental budgets.  My guess is he only owns the one suit (which he should trade with Jeremy since Derick's are too big and Jeremy's are too small).

If I found out that my imaginary child was being subjected to a "class" taught by Derick, I'd be long gone from that church.

[jennblevins]

As much as I think Derick is full of it, I also think that people who haven’t worked full time outside the home can have inaccurate views of what it’s like to do so.  (I’ve certainly met people who do.)  Much like I probably have inaccurate views of what New York City is like, since I’ve never been there. Or of what it’s like to be a SAH[Whatever]. 

Of course, I suppose it’s hardly surprising that they took something with a grain of truth and mangled it up until it was unrecognizable. 

[Future Cat Lady]

2 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

I guess this is part of Derelict's "homework?"

It's so sad to see young children being indoctrinated into a cult. And someone has to be told that name tags go in the front. 

Why in hell is he wearing a suit to talk in front of such young children? And PowerPoint?

You have to adapt to your audience buddy. For a guy who has kids, I don't think he knows much about them. 

What the hell was he teaching those poor souls anyway?

[CherryMalotte]

58 minutes ago, Chicklet said:

I guess his statement also proves he doesn't know any history- WW2 Dreck? Women in droves, including MOTHERS, went out to work because all the men were away doing something with guns or something.

He can't look at the Rosie The Riveter poster - it's defrauding!  

Cripes, those poor kids - they look pretty well behaved but still...too young for whatever this is.  I'd bet that this is a 'teaching' portion of his classwork for his mission position course. 

I think he and Cathy and the other self righteous twitterpated fundie fools eat it up when they get posts or texts or comments that call them out on their bullshit, because then they can justify their holier than thou selves, and make themselves feel good for being good Christian soldiers.  Nothing but an ego stroke.  Then they just delete the opposing views away, because only their opinions matter since they are at the side of Jesus.

[Sew Sumi]

15 minutes ago, Future Cat Lady said:

It's so sad to see young children being indoctrinated into a cult. And someone has to be told that name tags go in the front. 

Why in hell is he wearing a suit to talk in front of such young children? And PowerPoint?

You have to adapt to your audience buddy. For a guy who has kids, I don't think he knows much about them. 

What the hell was he teaching those poor souls anyway?

According to his hashtags, he's teaching the Good Samaritan story and about love. Good luck with the latter, buddy. 

[Vaysh]

Ugh. The whole "women belong in the home and all secretly want to be there because history!" BS is one of my pet peeves. Until after World War II, when there was a huge propaganda campaign to get women out of the work force and into the home because governments were afraid that men would end up jobless after returning from the war, most women worked unless they were part of the affluent but small upper and middle classes. Working class women (the majority) have always had to work. And usually had to do all of the housework as well. If you were working class or peasant class you worked, whether man or woman. This whole idea of the cookie-baking, homework-helping, sweetly smiling angel of the home with her spotless home and garden who was just so fulfilled and happy with never having to go out into the nasty world and *gasp* work for pay instead of, you know, doing it for free, is essentially a 1950's propaganda piece. And the generations after that fought furiously to change that image and for the right for all women to work in all fields as well as for conditions that allow women to work even after having children (paid parental leave, subsidised child care, good pre-schools etc). I guess Derp slept through that history class.

 

tl;dr: Fuck you Derick.

Edited February 12, 2018 by Vaysh

[Temperance]

So there's a game where you put a nametag/sticker/post-it with a word on it. You have to guess what it is based on the theme (such as biblical characters) and hints given to you by the other people who can read your sticker and need help with theirs. You often walk around and ask for help. My best guess is the kids' played this game before they sat down for lecture in part to burn off some energy.

[Future Cat Lady]

6 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

According to his hashtags, he's teaching the Good Samaritan story and about love. Good luck with the latter, buddy. 

I had to look it up. I don't know much about stories from the Bible.

However, there must be some kind of picture book that exists. He should be on the floor with them telling the story. 

[Portia]

3 hours ago, Kokapetl said:

Why do the kids have stickers on their backs?

 

2 hours ago, Celia Rubenstein said:

It has the kid's name on it. So when they pass out face down on the floor from boredom, you can just call their parent over to carry them out of the room without having to roll the kid over to identify them or anything.

Haha,  Celia!  So yeah,  any church worth its salt has a rigorous security program for babies and older kids these days.  Just this morning,  walking to the parking lot after church,  I pointed to a little boy's sticker on his back and suggested that my husband should have one in case he wanders off or someone besides me tries to pick him up. 

[crazycatlady58]

1 minute ago, Future Cat Lady said:

I had to look it up. I don't know much about stories from the Bible.

However, there must be some kind of picture book that exists. He should be on the floor with them telling the story. 

There are  plenty  of guides to teach children  that  story , even  if there was not it's  not that hard to sit with them, tell the the story , have them act it out and draw pictures  of the story . He did say it was  not the class  he expected  but he needs st learn  how  to adapt .  Yes I know this is Derick  we are talking about  but if he can not make a simple  change he really  needs to change what  he plans to do for a living .