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Josh & Anna Smuggar: A Series of Unfortunate Events

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galaxychaser

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35 minutes ago, BradandJanet said:

I hope this problem oozes slime all over Jim Bob, Michelle, and Josh and swallows up aspiring politician Jed's family-values campaign. They have no values except to judge other people and take for themselves. 

As for the Rodriguii, even TLC won't put up with narcissistic, uneducated, openly bigoted Jill, her unemployed, not-photogenic husband, and their emaciated, uneducated, dull kids. TLC has to consider who would pay to sponsor such a mess. 

Even Jesus would not sponsor the Rods. 

Maybe Lucifer?

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hoosier80
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New show title: 10 to 20 Years and Counting 

MargeGunderson
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Someone on Reddit just described Josh’s face as a glistening glazed ham. I am considering divorcing my husband and marrying that poster. 

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Well, for many of us, it's the difference between 'imperfect' and 'non-PC' and being a criminal.  Josh is a child molester and his parents actively intervened in his situation to avoid him being punis

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Oldernowiser

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14 minutes ago, galaxychaser said:

Even Jesus would not sponsor the Rods. 

Maybe Lucifer?

Beelzebub’s Car Wash and Pizzeria.

(Featuring the Hellzafire Special: a large deep dish with ghost pepper sauce, jalapeños, blackened shredded goat and extra Pepper Jack, served on a flaming platter.)

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Churchhoney

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44 minutes ago, MsJamieDornan said:

As someone on Reddit posted "This has tax evasion written all over it."

It does. Seriously.

I can't think of the name right now of that sovereign-citizen super-Christian tax evader that Boob went to meet when the guy got out of prison a few years back -- and happily escorted him back to his home. His shtick, of course, was telling Christians that they shouldn't have to pay taxes and devising schemes and coaching them to help them evade......

Seems too much to hope that one such Duggar scheme finally caught up with them....but I'd be so happy if it did...

Okay -- Kent Hovind --

https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterjreilly/2015/07/11/raw-story-notices-when-kent-hovind-seen-with-jim-bob-duggar/#639ed47c6595

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Barb23

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Wouldn't it be something if the raid involves the limos they showed in one of the earlier episodes of this season?  The ones they drove home to Arkansas from (I think) the DC area. 

Years ago, the small accounting firm my sister works for did the books for a small car lot business. The owner ended up in the federal Big House for a couple of years for odometer tampering.   If Smuggs & JB could be so lucky.  Could you imagine those two going  up against the Joe Giudice type of guys in the slammer?  Well at least the Kellers can visit them as part of their ministry.  

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tabloidlover

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2 hours ago, BradandJanet said:

I hope this problem oozes slime all over Jim Bob, Michelle, and Josh and swallows up aspiring politician Jed's family-values campaign. They have no values except to judge other people and take for themselves. 

As for the Rodriguii, even TLC won't put up with narcissistic, uneducated, openly bigoted Jill, her unemployed, not-photogenic husband, and their emaciated, uneducated, dull kids. TLC has to consider who would pay to sponsor such a mess. 

You’re insinuating that David is less than photogenic?   🤔

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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Jeanne222

Jeanne222

5 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

Google say, "The HSI investigates human rights violations, immigration crime, human smuggling, export enforcement issues, cybercrime, financial crimes, and the smuggling of weapons and other contraband."

Hopefully it's financial fraud. They could be cooking the books. Maybe making cash deals and not reporting it on their taxes. Or they could be making a lot of large cash bank deposits. Any amount over $10,000 in cash must be reported by banks. If the Duggars are depositing more cash than a typical car lot of their size, that could prompt an investigation.

I know I'm grasping at straws here but I'm hoping it's weapons or finances.

Just my opinion..I think it's Josh and some kind of porn and I'm betting they are checking computers everywhere!  

He's a sex addict.

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Zella

Zella

5 minutes ago, MsJamieDornan said:

Zella, Ride out there and check on the car lot, please.

Haha If I had known all this when I was in the Fayetteville area on Monday, I would have totally done a drive-by!

I have a friend whose sister bought a vehicle there at some point. He told me she said it was a lemon. 😂

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Just now, awaken said:

They must feel so betrayed that their sweet friends at People and In Touch are publishing this negative news!  Not quite the exclusive they were hoping for!  

Because I am a bitch, I am cracking up thinking about how Lauren's birth thunder has been stolen by a federal raid. 😂

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hathorlive

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Just now, Zella said:

Because I am a bitch, I am cracking up thinking about how Lauren's birth thunder has been stolen by a federal raid. 😂

Somewhere in heaven, Baby Asa is weeping.

1 minute ago, Jeanne222 said:

I think it was on katies page today that one of the two car lots was completely closed!  Maybe 15 cars last week but nothing left today!

I was part of raid where a car place was chop shopping stolen cars and switching vin plates out.  They took every single car on two lots as evidence.  

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Minivanessa

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3 minutes ago, Zella said:

Because I am a bitch, I am cracking up thinking about how Lauren's birth thunder has been stolen by a federal raid. 😂

Just come right on over here and sit by me, hon. 'Cause it kinda cracks me up too. 

(I think it's another show forum around here where we pass out the gasoline-soaked panties. As in, we're snarking so bad that we're on a bus headed to hell and wearing said gasoline-soaked drawers . . . heh. Or, is it this forum? I'm easily confused.)

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MsJamieDornan

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It's on Wild Creek Road or something like that.

According to the article I posted: HSI spokesperson Bryan Cox confirmed the news to NBC affiliate KNWA on Wednesday, saying that agents went to a business at the 14000-block of Wildcat Creek Road in Springdale, Ark., 

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PikaScrewChu

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44 minutes ago, Zella said:

Because I am a bitch, I am cracking up thinking about how Lauren's birth thunder has been stolen by a federal raid. 😂

I legitimately believe they thought releasing the exclusive pictures of JoKen and their two spawn would distract people. They actually do not know how to market themselves besides "Here's a wedding. Here's a baby."

I wonder if the exclusive photo shoot for Bsa is with People or US Weekly. It's probably too late for it to be yanked mind you. 

Lauren has probably exhausted herself by cursing Josh at every turn. 

Meanwhile Jessa has probably been told to get on that baby making train. And she's probably cursing out Josh too. 

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Jeanne222

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53 minutes ago, hathorlive said:

Somewhere in heaven, Baby Asa is weeping.

I was part of raid where a car place was chop shopping stolen cars and switching vin plates out.  They took every single car on two lots as evidence.  

Hummm never thought about that!  I was thinking the duggers drove them away.  

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Temperance

Temperance

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For Lauren's sake, I hope her husband isn't involved. Last I heard he was working as used car salesman. Also @JoanArc had a claim that Josiah had sold a lemon to someone and this was before this news broke. Most of the boys have worked as used car salesmen. We'll have to change the thread to the lonely J-Birds club.

On FJ, a poster named Tabitha2 threw this speculation out there before we knew about the car dealership. 

(Speculation)"There are some wack a doo and very militant as well as heavily armed End times “Christian” militia groups out there. With the Duggar’s love for Guns and Jesus and playing soldier There might well be connections that way as to Red Flag HS." (End Speculation)

If it was bigger than crooked car dealing, I could see this being true. However I have trouble connecting this to the car dealership. 

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1 hour ago, Jeeves said:

Just come right on over here and sit by me, hon. 'Cause it kinda cracks me up too. 

(I think it's another show forum around here where we pass out the gasoline-soaked panties. As in, we're snarking so bad that we're on a bus headed to hell and wearing said gasoline-soaked drawers . . . heh. Or, is it this forum? I'm easily confused.)

@Jeeves, it’s the My 600-lb Life forum 😉. Those live chat threads are epic, hope it comes back in January. 

As for the Duggars, I hope the gravy train stops here. Ironically, it’ll be when the show money goes away and these uneducated buffoons have to join the real world of bills and jobs that they’d finally have a show I might enjoy watching 😙

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JoanArc

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The google images for Wholesale motors are downright depressing. The ‘Carlot Office’ is a tiny shed with windows. Like - a closet. It looks like the kind of place you’d be dragged to be raped or murdered. I would not stop there if I were driving by, let alone buy a car!

At least Champion Motorcars has this place to kick around. “We’ll sell you a lemon, sure, but at least we’re not child molesters!”.

 The Google comments on the business were gold too. There were several complaints of lemons and crappy paperwork, with the business attempting to defend itself here and there. The Google comments from the other car lot is where I found that report of Josiah selling a lemon, then quickly (metaphorically) skipping town. 

Unrelated, but it looks like Jeremy has an LLC in Arkansas, started about when they left Laredo. Looks like Jingle could be up to her classical eyes in it, too.

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GeeGolly

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Most wholesalers do not sell to individuals. Depending on the license, some can't sell to individuals. Wholesalers typically deal with auctions and other car lots. It's a hard grind - waking up early, building relationships with other car lots, going to auctions, moving cars from place to place. The cars are bought and sold as is, and the profit margin is much less than selling cars to the public. But there is no responsibility to make the cars 'right', so once the car is sold, the seller has no further financial risk. Some states have lemon laws which protect a private buyer, but they don't protect a car lot or auction who purchase a car.

Usually the cars are bought and sold quickly, and many wholesalers don't have much of an office, if one at all. Depending on your state, you may be able to park a few unregistered cars on your private property, but in most places you can't, which is one reason the cars a bought and sold quickly.

Like I mentioned above, wholesaling is not for sissies, it is hard work - every single day. So not really a suitable Duggar career.

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crazycatlady58

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9 hours ago, Jeeves said:

Just come right on over here and sit by me, hon. 'Cause it kinda cracks me up too. 

(I think it's another show forum around here where we pass out the gasoline-soaked panties. As in, we're snarking so bad that we're on a bus headed to hell and wearing said gasoline-soaked drawers . . . heh. Or, is it this forum? I'm easily confused.)

Jeeves, that's My 600 pound life, I get confused where I read things also especially when people on two different shows have the same name.

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Churchhoney

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10 hours ago, hathorlive said:

Somewhere in heaven, Baby Asa is weeping.

I was part of raid where a car place was chop shopping stolen cars and switching vin plates out.  They took every single car on two lots as evidence.  

This is the kind of thing I wonder about. I've always suspected that the origins of their cars were fishy, at best. 

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Churchhoney

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9 hours ago, PikaScrewChu said:

I legitimately believe they thought releasing the exclusive pictures of JoKen and their two spawn would distract people. They actually do not know how to market themselves besides "Here's a wedding. Here's a baby."

I think that's because everything else they've got a) involves Jim Bob and b) is for that reason either stupid, offensive to many, fishy, shady -- or all of the above. 😁

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10 hours ago, MsJamieDornan said:

Josh is listed as the "contact" for that business. It doesn't say he is the owner. Or the only person to work there.

If this is about money or consumer fraud or unpaid taxes or anything like that, it may not be only about Josh and it's possible he may even be a somewhat minor player.

My guess is that Josh "owns" that car lot as much as Jed "owns" "his" car lot -- or Jana "owns" whatever "business" or "buildings" she supposedly owns. Etc. 

My sense has always been that all the money, all the buildings, all the businesses are Jim Bob's, all the power and all the decisions involving any of those things are Jim Bob's and only Jim Bob's.

And the kids' names are just slapped onto various things partly to make it seem as if they are independent adults to some degree since they figure that would play better with neighbors, TeeVee viewers, voters, etc.....and mostly to serve as a legal smoke screen in various ways for the many "creative activities" Jim Bob engages in, moneywise. 

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hathorlive

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9 hours ago, Jeanne222 said:

Hummm never thought about that!  I was thinking the duggers drove them away.  

It could be they drove the cars away, but why? Where would they store them?  They own the land the business is on.  We have businesses that continue to run after raids.  It could be a bad actor was doing something shady but the business is legit.  It could be you have to prove what illegal activity was taking place before trying to shut the company down.  Why move the cars off a lot they own?  Of course, being a small town, someone would have seen agents wrangling tow trucks and loading up cars.  It's a circus when that happens.  

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Jeanne222

Jeanne222

1 minute ago, hathorlive said:

It could be they drove the cars away, but why? Where would they store them?  They own the land the business is on.  We have businesses that continue to run after raids.  It could be a bad actor was doing something shady but the business is legit.  It could be you have to prove what illegal activity was taking place before trying to shut the company down.  Why move the cars off a lot they own?  Of course, being a small town, someone would have seen agents wrangling tow trucks and loading up cars.  It's a circus when that happens.  

No reason.  Just what came to mind when I heard the cars were there one day and gone the next.  Those boys and I think Joy went to auctions together so I could just see them all hustling down to the car lot and moving cars if JB  beckoned!

But that's a good question.  Why would they quickly move all those cars and where???

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questionfear

questionfear

13 hours ago, Oldernowiser said:

Beelzebub’s Car Wash and Pizzeria.

(Featuring the Hellzafire Special: a large deep dish with ghost pepper sauce, jalapeños, blackened shredded goat and extra Pepper Jack, served on a flaming platter.)

Well if you go by The Good Place, it's bagels from Arkansas, Hawaiian Pizza, and soul food from Maine....also known as Josh's breakfast. 

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Natalie68

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17 hours ago, MsJamieDornan said:

This actually gives the Homeland person's name. Which makes it more real to me.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/did-the-duggars-have-their-home-raided-everything-we-know-so-far-194709917.html

Since it states cyber crimes, could Josh have set up the website/grifting site for the Bahama rumored crime spree?

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