Josh & Anna Smuggar: A Series of Unfortunate Events

[Tdoc72]

6 minutes ago, merylinkid said:

I'm surprised JB didn't coerce the sisters into writing letters in support of Josh and claiming what he did to them was totally okay and should not be held against him.

Jb will do ANYTHING and use ANYONE to save Josh.   

This surprised me also. I’m really surprised Jessa didn’t write a letter w/her Megan Kelly/Fox News talking points. 

[SometimesBites]

His smug-shot tells the truth of who he is. Under the smile he was taught to produce if there's a camera in the room, all I see is a dark husk that's been burned hollow by his horrifying compulsions and behaviors.

[quarks]

4 minutes ago, merylinkid said:

I'm surprised JB didn't coerce the sisters into writing letters in support of Josh and claiming what he did to them was totally okay and should not be held against him.

Jb will do ANYTHING and use ANYONE to save Josh.   

I'm not sure that JB is in a position to coerce any of the older sisters, except possibly Jana, into writing anything. 

With the exception of Jana, they no longer live in the house. At least three of them - Jinger, Jill and Joy - appear to be financially independent.  (I'm less sure about Jessa). With the show over, JB isn't paying them to be on TV.  

The most he can do is threaten to cut them off from their minor siblings. But to a certain extent that already seems to have happened with Jill and possibly Jinger, and, notably, JB either wasn't able or didn't try to stop Jason from showing up at today's sentencing supporting Joy, even though Jason apparently now lives in the treehouse sorta attached to the main house. 

[Kellyee]

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I'm not sure that JB is in a position to coerce any of the older sisters, except possibly Jana, into writing anything. 

With the exception of Jana, they no longer live in the house. At least three of them - Jinger, Jill and Joy - appear to be financially independent.  (I'm less sure about Jessa). With the show over, JB isn't paying them to be on TV.  

Considering they are wearing pants and cutting their hair, I don't think Jim Bob has the same power he used to. Anna still appears totally brainwashed though. 

[MMEButterfly]

I've been gone all day. I was reading to catch up, and everybody stopped. What's happening with the hearing?

[Absolom]

We're waiting for a break to get updates.

[Scout Finch]

Snarkily looking forward to Josh's letter. "Your Honor, please do not deprive my family of the necessity for my crumb cleaning up skill."

[jcbrown]

I'm surprised this is taking so long. I really thought we would know by now.

[3 is enough]

Apparently they stopped for lunch, but they should be back by now.  I keep coming back to recheck but no news.

[DXD526]

According to the Sun coverage, victim impact statements are being read.

This is sure taking a long time. Hope it doesn't stretch into tomorrow.

[zoomama]

well i am glad they are taking time for the VIP statements. those are important and should be damaging. 

[MargeGunderson]

3 minutes ago, MMEButterfly said:

I've been gone all day. I was reading to catch up, and everybody stopped. What's happening with the hearing?

The judge has been ruling on all of the defense’s objections to the prosecutions recommendations in the pre-sentencing report. The judge has overruled the defense on most of them. I think there were a few more to rule on after the break.

[Minivanessa]

Just now, Scout Finch said:

Snarkily looking forward to Josh's letter. "Your Honor, please do not deprive my family of the necessity for my crumb cleaning up skill."

Well, I thought it was reported that he helped clean up crumbs. He may need to be sent home to work on getting his skills up to the point of being able to clean up crumbs all by himself.

[Scout Finch]

1 minute ago, Jeeves said:

Well, I thought it was reported that he helped clean up crumbs. He may need to be sent home to work on getting his skills up to the point of being able to clean up crumbs all by himself.

"I'm close to completing my crumb cleaning apprenticeship."

[GeeGolly]

OMG - I expected to come back to this and it would be done.

[Minivanessa]

In case it was said that FF "helped by cleaning up crumbs," vs. "helped clean up crumbs," I apologize for minimizing his crumb-cleaning skilz. 

Of course, my dogs were the best. ever. at cleaning up any crumbs within their reach. (Now that I don't have a dog in the house, I have to sweep the kitchen floor surprisingly often!)

Maybe Anna should get a dog to take care of the crumbs.

Edited May 25, 2022 by Jeeves

[Ijustwantsomechips]

FF got 151 months!!!

Edited May 25, 2022 by Ijustwantsomechips

[DXD526]

The Sun says 151 months!

[absnow54]

1 minute ago, GeeGolly said:

OMG - I expected to come back to this and it would be done.

I'm kicking myself for clicking in here when I saw the thread was hot! I couldn't remember when the actual sentencing date was, because it seemed like it was always getting pushed back. Now I'm sitting here refreshing, like it's the trial all over again. 

[MargeGunderson]

12.5 years! https://mobile.twitter.com/AnnaDarlingTV

[JustRosie]

Will Jim Bob allow that sentence?

[anna0852]

The Sun is reporting 151 months!!!! 12.5 years

[Minivanessa]

WOO HOO! I was braced for about 10 years. Twelve and a half is better than I'd expected.

Edited May 25, 2022 by Jeeves

[merylinkid]

OH THANK GOD

12.5 is GREAT.

[lovesnark]

The Ashley just updated that court has been let out for a break. 

Nevermind.......12.5 years!!! 

Edited May 25, 2022 by lovesnark

[libgirl2]

It might not be 20, but I will take it! 

[galaxygirl76]

I was hoping for double digits so I'm pleased. 

[GeeGolly]

Celebrate, good times ...

[DXD526]

According to the Sun - Josh Duggar will either go to Seagoville, Texas to serve his sentence, or to a prison in Texarkana, Arkansas, according to The Sun's court reporter at the sentencing.

12-13 years!!! Double digits!!!!! 

[Madtown]

FANTASTIC!

Hey Anna, have fun living with JimBoob for the next 12.5 years or longer. Great life for your kids.

Edited May 25, 2022 by Madtown

[all fall down]

From The Sun

JUST NOW

Two prison options

Josh Duggar will either go to Seagoville, Texas to serve his sentence, or to a prison in Texarkana, Arkansas, according to The Sun's court reporter at the sentencing.

JUST NOW

No reaction from Josh Duggar

Josh Duggar had "no reaction" when the sentence was handed down, according to The Sun reporter at the hearing on Wednesday.

[3 is enough]

Oh wow.  That's much better than I expected.

[quarks]

Well, that's a longer sentence than I was predicting. Pleasantly surprised to be wrong. 

[hathorlive]

5 minutes ago, DXD526 said:

The Sun says 151 months!

That's a good, fair sentence that takes into consider that he's already hurt victims in his home and the content of the CP downloaded.  I am ecstatic that it's over 10 years and beyond happy it's over 12.  To put this into perspective, my worse case ever, where the guy had terabytes of "littles" (I'll leave that your imagination), got 13 years, with three of those years coming for a chat transcript where he talked about grooming crackhead parents to get access to their kids.  That was an EXTRAORDINARY sentence for no victims.  So, Josh got a bigger sentence than normal (8ish years) largely due to the prosecutor's hard work.  I take my hat off to them.  Excellent work, AUSAs.  I think the work they did in getting his sister's abuse admitted is the difference in this case.  Without showing he's already contact offended, Josh would be looking at 7 to 8 years.  

Edited May 25, 2022 by hathorlive

[GeeGolly]

He split the difference between 5 and 20 right down the middle.

[Ijustwantsomechips]

1 minute ago, DXD526 said:

According to the Sun - Josh Duggar will either go to Seagoville, Texas to serve his sentence, or to a prison in Texarkana, Arkansas, according to The Sun's court reporter at the sentencing.

12-13 years!!! Double digits!!!!! 

Texas prisons are no joke so hopefully that’s where he ends up.

[Readalot]

12.5. Awesome. I’m celebrating later. Thanks to all for the info today. 

[merylinkid]

Just now, all fall down said:

No reaction from Josh Duggar

Josh Duggar had "no reaction" when the sentence was handed down, according to The Sun reporter at the hearing on Wednesday.

Not surprised.   His narcissistic brain is shut down.   It can't process that he actually got sentenced to prison, not sent home on probation.   

[Absolom]

I said anything more than 10 to 12 and I'd be ecstatic so I'm surprised and thrilled.  

[SusanM]

Any reports on Anna's reaction?  

[all fall down]

Also from The Sun:

Judge recommends sex offender treatment

The judge will recommend sex offender treatment for Josh Duggar, but Josh doesn't have to do it.

Judge Brooks wants Josh to go to the prison in Seagoville because it has a good sex offender program, but that determination depends on bed space.

No reaction from Anna Duggar

Josh Duggar's wife, Anna Duggar, had no reaction when the sentence was determined, The Sun's court reporter noted.

His father, Jim Bob Duggar, also did not visibly react.

Edited May 25, 2022 by all fall down

[DXD526]

The Sun says also 'no reaction' from Anna and Rim Job.

[GeeGolly]

Madyson will be 13 when the FF gets out.

[Tdoc72]

2 minutes ago, all fall down said:

Also from The Sun:

Judge recommends sex offender treatment

The judge will recommend sex offender treatment for Josh Duggar, but Josh doesn't have to do it.

Judge Brooks wants Josh to go to the prison in Seagoville because it has a good sex offender program, but that determination depends on bed space.

I hope Texas just because it’s further. I know they have planes and stuff but I’d like to make it as difficult as possible. (Although the Arkansas one is probably as far as you could get from Duggarland and still be in AR.)

Edited May 25, 2022 by Tdoc72

[anna0852]

Anna will be 45. Bye bye baby train!

[iwantcookies]

Yay! By the time he is out Anna will be in menopause! No more babiez.

He got more than I thought!

[SusanM]

Just now, anna0852 said:

Anna will be 45. Bye bye baby train!

Aside from him getting a long sentence this is the best news today.  We all know she had every intention of surpassing the 19 kids count.

[Madtown]

Apologies if this has been asked and answereed and I missed it.

Will he actually be serving all 12.5 years? I'm hoping he doesn't have a chance to get out early.

Edited May 25, 2022 by Madtown

[lovesnark]

2 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Madyson will be 13 when the FF gets out.

Where does that M fall in the birth order? Is she the newest?

[crazycatlady58]

I have some people who work in the prison in our area shop in my store. Fun fact the prisons have no AC and it gets hot and humid in Texas. 

Edited May 25, 2022 by crazycatlady58
Wanted to make sense