Thor: Ragnarok (2017)

[BetterButter]

[rmontro]

I was watching the trailer.  Hulk battles a direwolf?

The team concept is interesting.  Hulk and Valkyrie were members of the comic book version of the Defenders, and Thor was a member of the Defenders on the Super Squad cartoon.  So it's almost like another version of the Defenders here.  And I believe Doctor Strange is in the movie, isn't he?  He was a founding member of the Defenders also.

[Captain Carrot]

22 minutes ago, rmontro said:

I was watching the trailer.  Hulk battles a direwolf?

I'm assuming that's Fenrir:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenrir

[rmontro]

22 hours ago, Captain Carrot said:

I'm assuming that's Fenrir:

Fenrir, yes, that makes more sense.  Sorry, too much Game of Thrones, I guess.  As if there could be such a thing.

[Wynterwolf]

I can't honestly say I feel much of anything about Jane and Thor as a couple, so this won't have any impact on me, but I think it's cool that they'll actually address it:

[BetterButter]

[Morrigan2575]

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I can't honestly say I feel much of anything about Jane and Thor as a couple, so this won't have any impact on me, but I think it's cool that they'll actually address it:

Never cared for Thor/Jane but, I'm super bummed we never got Thor/SIF explored. 

[SimoneS]

I liked Jane with Thor, but Odin was right, what kind of relationship could they have with her a human and on another planet? I am excited to see how Tessa Thompson's Valkyrie plays out on the screen. It already sounds like the character is a better match for Thor, but I am in wait and see mode.

Edited September 19, 2017 by SimoneS

[DollEyes]

  The Nerdist trailer is hilarious.  Knowing the MCU verse, the only thing missing was a title card saying "And Stan Lee as...."

[VCRTracking]

The First Reactions to Thor: Ragnarok Live Up to Your Hulk-Sized Expectations

Consensus is that it's hilarious. VERY hilarious. Some fans already hate that it's more a comedy and want it to be more serious but after Thor: The Dark World I'm fine with it being more fun.

Edited October 9, 2017 by VCRTracking

[JessePinkman]

This movie is going to make so much money. Escapism is definitely in right now with the way the apocalypse is slowly creeping up on us.

[frenchtoast]

1 hour ago, VCRTracking said:

The First Reactions to Thor: Ragnarok Live Up to Your Hulk-Sized Expectations

Consensus is that it's hilarious. VERY hilarious. Some fans already hate that it's more a comedy and want it to be more serious but after Thor: The Dark World I'm fine with it being more fun.

Caveat: I have not seen this film. But, given Chris Hemsworth's comedy skill and Thor's general outsizeness as a character, I'm happy to see a comedy. The first one was uber dramatic and Branagh handled it well, mostly. My favorite part, though, is Thor striding into a pet store demanding a horse. I'm really looking forward to the movie. And if it gets compared to Guardians of the Galaxy, that can only be a good thing for me. 

[magdalene]

I am looking forward to this one.  Chris Hemsworth is a funny guy with very good comic timing and instincts.  It looks like they are playing to his strengths here and steering away from dour and too serious stuff.

[SimoneS]

8 hours ago, VCRTracking said:

The First Reactions to Thor: Ragnarok Live Up to Your Hulk-Sized Expectations

Consensus is that it's hilarious. VERY hilarious. Some fans already hate that it's more a comedy and want it to be more serious but after Thor: The Dark World I'm fine with it being more fun.

I am so glad to hear this. Chris Hemsworth was so funny in Ghostbusters and looked like he was having a fabulous time. I can only imagine that he had even more fun doing a comedic Thor movie. I am also glad that to hear all the positive feedback on Tessa Thompson as Valkyrie. I can't wait to see this movie.

[benteen]

21 hours ago, VCRTracking said:

The First Reactions to Thor: Ragnarok Live Up to Your Hulk-Sized Expectations

Consensus is that it's hilarious. VERY hilarious. Some fans already hate that it's more a comedy and want it to be more serious but after Thor: The Dark World I'm fine with it being more fun.

That's not a surprise that some fans already hate it as fanboys like that tend to be the most humorless people on the planet.

While I do wish we'd get a full-blown epic Planet Hulk movie, I'm looking forward to Ragnarok and am very glad to hear about the strong early buzz.

[JustaPerson]

In case you wanted to hear the first ten minutes of the film from Mark Ruffalo's pocket.

[Wynterwolf]

LOL, Mark is like a one-man spoiler machine!  

[JustaPerson]

For anyone who's interested, Thor: Ragnarok currently has a 99% rating on Rotten Tomatoes! 

Edited October 26, 2017 by JustaPerson

[slf]

8 hours ago, JustaPerson said:

For anyone who's interested, Thor: Ragnarok has a 99% rating on Rotten Tomatoes! 

Damn. That's much better than I was expecting. I'm sure that rating will dip a bit once more reviews come out but that's the highest score of the franchise. Some of the reviews made me roll my eyes though; "it may be too funny"? Not every superhero movie has to be doom and gloom all the time. Thor is not naturally that sort of guy anyway and, frankly, you don't have a lot of options when it comes to the world of Thor and Asgard. You can either go Greek tragedy/Shakespearean with it or play up Thor's charm, neverending delight and good humor, and boundless love for his family, friends, and people. This franchise could never really figure out how to do the former - it was often bogged down by the cheesier and/or cliche aspects, and those are actually the least of your problems if you tackle the more serious, dramatic material - and every other MCU film is depressing so why not do something a bit lighter? Chris Hemsworth really shines in comedies and I have a feeling I'll be able to tolerate Loki so much more when he's cracking, and being the butt of, jokes than when he's going all My Father Hath Forsaken Me.

I'm thrilled for Tessa Thompson that she's getting such good reviews. Some people have been a little shitty about her being in the movie but it sounds like she's one of the highlights of the film. And it seems like Valkyrie is a better fit with Thor (and Thor's friends and family) than Jane was. I've enjoyed Natalie Portman in other movies but huge blockbusters with a lot of green screen acting is her weakness; her Jane worked best on earth which kind of limited the possibilities for her.

[Bruinsfan]

I'm far less worried about Tessa Thompson's impact on Portman's role than on Jamie Alexander's, as the latter always left me wanting to see more scenes with Sif rather than thinking "you can go any time now, I won't mind." It's weird to me that the Marvel people didn't seem to recognize how awesome that character (and actress) is and feature her more. They were clearly able to do so with Peggy Carter/Haley Atwell.

Edited October 26, 2017 by Bruinsfan

[slf]

1 hour ago, Bruinsfan said:

I'm far less worried about Tessa Thompson's impact on Portman's role than on Jamie Alexander's, as the latter always left me wanting to see more scenes with Sif rather than thinking "you can go any time now, I won't mind." It's weird to me that the Marvel people didn't seem to recognize how awesome that character (and actress) is and feature her more. They were clearly able to do so with Peggy Carter/Haley Atwell.

I've been a little worried about that, too. While the Warriors Three have struggled to build up much fan interest and so I can understand why their roles have diminished, Sif is very popular as is Jaimie Alexander, as Feige and Waititi have learned. (Sif is not only my favorite Thor character, she's my favorite character in all the MCU films, tbh.) I don't understand why they aren't featuring her more, either. Sif is a major part of Thor's world and it would've been great to have three women kicking ass onscreen in Ragnarok. Waititi is saying she wasn't included because Alexander was busy filming Blindspot.

I did some googling and found a few spoilers:

Spoiler

The Warriors Three are killed by Hela. Feige said it's a good thing Sif isn't in the movie because she might have met the same fate. [x]

I'm not sure if others have been spoiled about this yet but I hadn't been so I'm including it:

"Early on in the movie when Thor (Chris Hemsworth) arrives back on Asgard, he witnesses a bizarre play that celebrates Loki's 'noble sacrifice' from Thor: The Dark World. The play sees Loki played by Matt Damon, Chris's real-life brother Liam as Thor and Sam Neill as Odin, but that wasn't initially the plan." [x]

From this interview:

Tessa, is there any chance that we could maybe see a solo Valkyrie movie?

THOMPSON: That’s a really good idea! Recently, I marched up to Kevin, with a couple other women and was like, “What about a movie with female superheroes?”

FEIGE: It was a pretty amazing moment to be somewhere and have your shoulder get tapped, and then turn around and see every female hero we have, standing there going, “How about it?” And I said, “Yes.” There’s a precedent for it in the comics because there are teams, like the Lady Liberators.

[benteen]

4 hours ago, Bruinsfan said:

I'm far less worried about Tessa Thompson's impact on Portman's role than on Jamie Alexander's, as the latter always left me wanting to see more scenes with Sif rather than thinking "you can go any time now, I won't mind." It's weird to me that the Marvel people didn't seem to recognize how awesome that character (and actress) is and feature her more. They were clearly able to do so with Peggy Carter/Haley Atwell.

They did have JA appear twice on Agents of Shield as Sif but I agree, they don't seem to know how awesome a character they have there.

[HunterHunted]

On 10/26/2017 at 11:58 AM, slf said:

I've been a little worried about that, too. While the Warriors Three have struggled to build up much fan interest and so I can understand why their roles have diminished, Sif is very popular as is Jaimie Alexander, as Feige and Waititi have learned. (Sif is not only my favorite Thor character, she's my favorite character in all the MCU films, tbh.) I don't understand why they aren't featuring her more, either. Sif is a major part of Thor's world and it would've been great to have three women kicking ass onscreen in Ragnarok. Waititi is saying she wasn't included because Alexander was busy filming Blindspot.

I did some googling and found a few spoilers:

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The Warriors Three are killed by Hela. Feige said it's a good thing Sif isn't in the movie because she might have met the same fate. [x]

I'm not sure if others have been spoiled about this yet but I hadn't been so I'm including it:

"Early on in the movie when Thor (Chris Hemsworth) arrives back on Asgard, he witnesses a bizarre play that celebrates Loki's 'noble sacrifice' from Thor: The Dark World. The play sees Loki played by Matt Damon, Chris's real-life brother Liam as Thor and Sam Neill as Odin, but that wasn't initially the plan." [x]

From this interview:

Tessa, is there any chance that we could maybe see a solo Valkyrie movie?

THOMPSON: That’s a really good idea! Recently, I marched up to Kevin, with a couple other women and was like, “What about a movie with female superheroes?”

FEIGE: It was a pretty amazing moment to be somewhere and have your shoulder get tapped, and then turn around and see every female hero we have, standing there going, “How about it?” And I said, “Yes.” There’s a precedent for it in the comics because there are teams, like the Lady Liberators.

I here's the piece I like best about the speculation of a movie with female superheroes.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/the-ladies-of-the-marvel-cinematic-universe-have-asked-1819446856

The reason I like it is because it makes it clear that Tessa Thompson was the one who suggested the Lady Liberators, which impressed Kevin Feige, after Mark Ruffalo's bullshit Fevengers suggestion. And outside of Agent 33, Sharon Carter, and Sif, no other characters have received such poor treatment in the MCU. They've managed to do jack all with both of them. I think a Liberators movie might be an opportunity for Marvel to do right by their female characters.

Edited November 2, 2017 by HunterHunted

[Kel Varnsen]

3 hours ago, HunterHunted said:

And outside of Agent 33, Sharon Carter, and Sif, no other characters have received such poor treatment in the MCU. They've managed to do jack all with both of them.

I would say the character who has gotten the worst treatment in the MCU is Betty Ross. Completely forgotten; which is too bad because I like Liv Tyler. Too bad her character is too much associated with the Edward Norton version of the Hulk.

[Bruinsfan]

Well, if they'd done more than obliquely imply Betty Ross' existence they'd have had a stumbling block to the oh-so-thrilling subplot of Banner falling in troo wuv with Black Widow. Other than her barren womb, I mean. (Frankly, I think a guy saying that a relationship is doomed because he can't have children before ever actually going on a date with someone is a much better reason for said relationship to not happen. Instead of commiserating about their shared "monstrous" inability to have children, Natasha should have told him to slow his roll, she hadn't even agreed to dinner yet much less settling down and giving birth to his green rage babies!)

Edited October 27, 2017 by Bruinsfan

[Morrigan2575]

Jeremy Jahns gave it a good time no alcohol required (I think it's his lowest positive review).

 

Basically it's a fun movie but, there's some tonal disconnect between the two plots/stories.

[LadyAmalthea]

As someone suffering Marvel fatigue (didn't bother with Doctor Strange or Spiderman) this movie re-ignited my interest in the franchise.  Of course it helps that Thor was always my favourite Avenger and I think the original was the best of the stage 1 films.

Spoiler

 

Speaking of Doctor Strange, Benedict Cumberbatch's American accent is all kinds of terrible and his cameo kind of unnecessary but whatever.  Matt Damon, Sam Neill and Luke Hemsworth cameos were hilarious however and the humour really works well - I've seen a lot of commentary that they've "finally" let Thor be funny which I think it a simplistic assessment - the first Thor walked the line between playing all the fantastical stuff straight while acknowledging the ridiculous so this is more a natural evolution of the character and franchise rather than a reinvention/soft reboot.  

While I missed Jane and winced at how they disposed of her with a single line, I can't think of a way she would have fit into this film.  I always liked Lady Sif but was never as enamored with her as most others seemed to be, and really enjoyed Valkyrie.  Although why it's seemingly impossible to get female characters to actually interact in these films is beyond me - the flashback to Valkyrie's origins and personal beef  with Hela never pays off which is a shame.  

 

Re: the actual ragnarok:

Spoiler

We have Chekov's crown in the opening sequence so was expecting that someone would be sticking that thing in the fire at the end, and I was initially rolling my eyes that they would make Thor stupid enough to keep those two things in close proximity, but the payoff with the complete destruction of Asgard and Thor leading his people out into the stars was pretty satisfying.  Finally, Marvel movie disaster porn with actual stakes and consequences!  Yes we had fallout from Age of Ultron with the Accords but none of these big setpieces with cities being destroyed ever seem to have much impact on the world itself, the economy, actual people, etc.  Similarly, it was sad to see the Warrior Three offed but again, showed actual consequences .

The music was sublime.

[Sandman]

On 10/27/2016 at 0:18 AM, Jazzy24 said:

But correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Ragnarok the story of the Asgardian apocalypse? Everybody is suppose to like die in this story so I don't know how humor will fit in this movie. 

Yes: The Ragnarök myth is the end of creation in Norse mythology -- it's not Thor's biggest battle; it's not cooked-up cage match in an interstellar a stadium, and it's not even really about Hela getting big ideas and trying to make Thor her bitch. Thor and Hela and Loki all have very specific roles in the end of the universe -- Marvel's version makes me cringe, and on most levels, I am not looking forward to this movie, despite how willing I am to be charmed by Chris Hemsworth and his "It's okay! We know each other -- he's a friend from work!" nonsense.

On 1/5/2017 at 10:06 PM, Joe said:

I've been deeply skeptical about this for some time. It's Ragnarok. The twilight of the gods. The end of all songs. Götterdämmerung. Death and rebirth. This day all gods die*. And it's going to be a buddy road trip movie with the Hulk? Dr Strange is supposed to be involved too, somehow. It should look like a viking version of Rogue One, not this.

Yes. YES. Precisely!

Edited October 31, 2017 by Sandman

[supposebly]

I don't see Marvel Thor in any way related to Norse Mythology.

It's a comic where Thor flies around and plays with a guy who throws a shield really hard, banters with Loki, plays with another one who wears a metal suit that flies, and a really big angry green guy who also flies or jumps really far. I wouldn't for one second relate this to actual Norse Mythology. It borrows, it steels some some barely comparable concepts or just words, but that seems to be about it.

Every Superhero comic book or movie is more or less about the end of the world brought about by some doodaa or another wielded by some pissed of guy of some sort or another, this time they call it Ragnarök, last time they called it Ultron. If it had anything to do with actual Ragnarök, it would actually end badly. I'm willing to bet Thor and gang will win this. I'm sure the "gods" will survive this too.

Edited November 1, 2017 by supposebly

[Sandman]

So call it Thor: Hela To Pay, or something.

[Kel Varnsen]

17 hours ago, supposebly said:

I don't see Marvel Thor in any way related to Norse Mythology.

It's a comic where Thor flies around and plays with a guy who throws a shield really hard, banters with Loki, plays with another one who wears a metal suit that flies, and a really big angry green guy who also flies or jumps really far. I wouldn't for one second relate this to actual Norse Mythology. It borrows, it steels some some barely comparable concepts or just words, but that seems to be about it.

 

The mythology thing is pretty easy to work around even within the mcu. The Ragnarok legend for earth was written centuries ago by human norse people. I would expect humans to get it exactly right, just like they think Thor is a god not a really advanced nearly immortal alien. It's like an intergalactic game of telephone.

[supposebly]

Well, Norse Gods were a religion/believe system hundreds of years ago. So, for me, one is fiction (Marvel), the other is something people actually believed.

Very different concepts in my head. 

Anyway, back on topic: I hope he gets a new hammer!

[Which Tyler]

I think how much anyone cares about the mangling of Norse mythology is the same as for an other translation of source material to another medium.

Some people get upset because the comic/book had a couple of changes in translation, some are fine with it being ripped to shreds and sharing only character and place names.

As a rule of thumb, the more beloved the story, the more upset people are by the changes.

 

Some of us grew up with the stories of Norse mythology, Arthur and the round table, Robin Hood, Bilbo and Thorin, or real-life history. We tend to get upset when we see the horrific depictions of our favourites on the big screen.

Edited November 2, 2017 by Which Tyler

[HunterHunted]

On 11/1/2017 at 8:57 AM, Sandman said:

So call it Thor: Hela To Pay, or something.

 You know that this will be in the Thor: Ragnarok Honest Trailer.

[Kel Varnsen]

21 hours ago, supposebly said:

Well, Norse Gods were a religion/believe system hundreds of years ago. So, for me, one is fiction (Marvel), the other is something people actually believed.

Very different concepts in my head. 

Anyway, back on topic: I hope he gets a new hammer!

Well both are fiction one is just much older. And the MCU is slightly different as Thor is a real alien and the stories written about him are what humans guessed his story was 100's of years ago. I also kind of wonder if the Norse religion has become more popular in the MCU since Thor came to Earth and saved the world from his brother. 

[Sandman]

2 hours ago, HunterHunted said:

You know that this will be in the Thor: Ragnarok Honest Trailer.

And speaking of MjöInir, I can't help but imagine that Hela will drop some remark along the lines of "... Ehh. I've seen bigger." Either in the Honest Trailer or, possibly, the theatrical release itself.

[Kel Varnsen]

22 hours ago, supposebly said:

Anyway, back on topic: I hope he gets a new hammer!

He has to get a new hammer so Cap can pick it up at some point in Infinity War or Avengers 4.

[anna0852]

I just got back from seeing this tonight. I'm sure I'll have more thoughts tomorrow.

Hela just took center stage as best villain for the MCU, at least until we see Killmonger in February. Cate Blanchett was perfect casting.

I felt bad for Hulk in a way. In his time on Saakar he was happy. The big green rage monster was totally accepted, had a nice apartment, people who were impressed with his abilities, heck practically a cult following. He was at peace with being Hulk and didn't want to revert to Banner. I'm actually glad Banner didn't really remember it. I think he'd be sad to know what he'd lost.

Love the small shout-outs to the previous movies. The Quinn Jet Hulk was last seen in. Natasha's message playing. That Bruce had to wear Tony's clothes left aboard. New Yorkers wanting selfies with Thor (they haven't forgotten him). Even that Thor's voice activation for the Quinn Jet was Point Break. And the lullaby!!!! Of course Thor's going to think to try it.

Valkerie was awesome and she need meet Gamora and Nebula like, tomorrow. They're going to get along so, so well.

Heimdall continues to be all the awesome.

[scarynikki12]

That was really fun!  I have a lot of affection for the first two Thor movies, because they make me laugh, but this one is good as well as funny. 

I like how everything was set out piece by piece so that Thor's realization that they had to leave Asgard and let Ragnarok happen as the only way to defeat Hela made sense. 

I hadn't heard that Thor was going to lose an eye like Odin so that was a twist.  Maybe that's why Infinity War trailer hasn't come out yet? 

Speaking of trailers, I like that Marvel didn't hesitate to show us different things in the movie.  Nothing major, just the background being different when Hela first shows up, him having two eyes that glow with lightning on the bifrost, stuff like that.  The trailer had everyone speculating on thing and then it turned out to be just different enough so that we would be surprised.

Fenrir is a mean wolf but he's so cute!  I want to shrink him and give him cuddles. 

I guess Matt Damon's a fan of the MCU?  I laughed at him playing Loki even though I was confused at his appearance.  I didn't even realize that was Luke but now it makes sense why he was doing such a great Chris-as-Thor. 

The movie is legit good but I'm also not above being happy that they gave us a (short) moment of shirtless Hemsworth.  Yum.

I'm guessing that gigantic spaceship that showed up belongs to Thanos?  It's the only thing that would make sense.

Goldblum was a hoot.  Glad he lived to the end though I suspect those Star Wars knockoffs (seriously, they were wearing Padme's clothes from Episode 1) will turn him into food very quickly.

[MadyGirl1987]

This was such an awesome movie! So hilarious, yet exciting and action-filled! Chris Hemsworth is an amazing comedic actor and I think having Thor be more humorous plays to his strengths.

Hela was an amazing villain. From her entrance to the end, she was threatening and entertaining to watch.

Loved Loki’s reaction to when the Hulk showed up. He would carry a grudge over the Hulk beating up on him during Avengers.

The Hulk on Sakkar was fun to watch but I was waiting for Banner to show up and Mark Ruffalo didn’t disappoint. I find Banner to be more entertaining then the Hulk, crazy as that may seem.

Hela declaring the Infinity Gauntlet in the vault fake has to be Marvel’s most obvious “wink-wink, nudge-nudge” to the audience but it was still hilarious.

Even though I found Doctor Strange my least favorite of the more recent Marvel movies, I loved him here and have hope for the character in future films.

Edited November 3, 2017 by MadyGirl1987

[thuganomics85]

Saw it a few hours ago and waited a bit to process it.  Definitely think it is the best Thor movie, even if some might argue that isn't saying much (even though I actually enjoyed the first one and thought it was good mixture of origin story, a fish out of water one, and a Shakespearean tragedy, and second one wasn't awful by any stretch, but just kind of forgettable), so I will go further and say that this could be one of my personal favorites yet.

Not really familiar with Taika Waititi's past work, but I can see why he seems to have a solid following.  This might be one of the best looking and most distinctive Marvel movies yet.  It might have come close at times to the look of James Gunn and the Guardians feel, but even then, he gave it a slightly more eccentric and fantastical look to it.  In particular, The Fall of the Valkyries scene was both beautiful and haunting.  But I think the way he shot just a lot of the character interactions also had a different feel.  At times, I felt like I was watching a New Zealand comedy, only with a much bigger budget and A-list actors.  It had a looser feel compared to the others, and I was pretty much digging all of it.  Also didn't realize he was the one voicing Korg, which is pretty cool, and the character was hilarious.

It was great seeing all the returning characters again, but I'll stick my neck out and say that while I did think Tom Hiddelston stole the previous films and he was certainly good here (especially his reactions to Hulk), this was the first time where I felt Chris Hemsworth actually walked away with the film.  Maybe he's just grown as an actor overall or he simply had better material to work with, but I was really loving his performance here.  He really nailed down a less arrogant, and more carefree Thor, but still had the confidence and charm from the previous films.  I just felt like he commanded and even carried the film in a way he didn't quite do in the previous films (although I always enjoyed him, but I did feel like he relied more on the other actors; especially Hiddelston; to help him.)  Overall, I'm sure he's still limited on some levels, but I do feel like he has more then a solid career ahead of him, once he ever decides to hang up the cape.

Great seeing Bruce/Hulk as well, and I did notice smaller but noticeable differences with actually having Mark Ruffalo do the motion capture work for Hulk this go around.  But I never realized how perfect Thor and Hulk are together until now.  Their interactions were hilarious and Hemsworth and Ruffalo seemed to be having a ball.

Tessa Thompson was freaking awesome as Valkyrie.  One of my few complaints is that I wish we got more of her backstory and had a better payoff with her issues with Hela (I got the sense that the Valkyrie who saved her life was suppose to be her lover), but the moment we did get were fantastic.  They better have plenty more of her going forward.

Jeff Goldblum was pure Jeff Goldblum as The Grandmaster.  I loved where I read somewhere that he was like Jabba the Hutt, if Jabba was Jeff Goldblum!

A little disappointed that Hela had the obvious "Marvel villain" motivations of wanting to conqueror the universe, but damn, if Cate Blanchett didn't make that complaint almost obsolete.  I enjoyed every minute of her sneering, snarling, and camp.  And, yes, she looked sexy as hell while doing it!  That alone probably makes her my new favorite villain (especially since Loki has really became more of an anti-hero now.)  Equally enjoyed Karl Urban as Skurge, even if I figured it was going to end with him seeing the error in his ways and sacrificing himself.  I hope one of these days Urban finally gets to headline a big franchise himself, because he is one of the most underrated actors out there, in my opinion.

Glad they worked in Heimdall here and gave him a decent amount to do.  Kind of bummed over how The Warrior's Three got taken out.  I get they were showing just how badass Hela is, but it still felt like it went down way too quickly.  And while I understand the reasonings behind it, I'm still bummed there wasn't even a mention of Sif.

Kind of glad Odin is gone, because I do feel like Anthony Hopkins is over it.  Although he did have a spark during the "Loki as Odin" scene.

The Doctor Strange cameo was fine.  Favorite part was Loki's "I was falling for THIRTY MINUTES!!"

Hard to pick what was the funniest moment, but if I had to, it was probably Thor's story about Loki trying to kill him as a child.  The way Thor told it and Loki's smirk at the end just had me howling.

The action scenes were well done and fun to watch.

The cameos from Sam Neill, Luke Hemsworth, and Matt Damon were hilarious and unexpected.  Obviously, Luke was funny because he and Chris are brothers, but I wonder if Damon being Loki was because of Kevin Smith's Dogma, where he played a fallen angel named, yep, Loki.

I did like how the final battle was different where instead of them taking on Surtur (Clancy Brown!) and have another big "Heroes take on a big CGI monster", it was actually Thor and Loki that had to unleash him and destroy Asgard, in order for Hela not to take it.  I guess sometimes you have to fight evil with evil.

Overall, I loved it.  Also credit to the marking team, because the trailers really did a good job at hiding some of the surprises, like showing scenes where Thor looses his eye in the film, but he still has it in the previews.  So, it was very shocking when that actually happened.

Edited November 5, 2017 by thuganomics85

[LadyAmalthea]

7 hours ago, anna0852 said:

I felt bad for Hulk in a way. In his time on Saakar he was happy. The big green rage monster was totally accepted, had a nice apartment, people who were impressed with his abilities, heck practically a cult following. He was at peace with being Hulk and didn't want to revert to Banner. I'm actually glad Banner didn't really remember it. I think he'd be sad to know what he'd lost.

Well, he was also killing people on the regular, so yeah, probably best that Banner doesn't remember.

3 hours ago, thuganomics85 said:

The cameos from Sam Neill, Luke Hemsworth, and Matt Damon were hilarious and unexpected.  Obviously, Luke was funny because he and Chris are brothers, but I wonder if Damon being Loki was because of Kevin Smith's Dogma, where he played a fallen angel named, yep, Loki.

*smacks forehead* I can't believe I didn't make that connection.

[benteen]

I saw it last night and I really enjoyed it.  It was so much fun.  Thor was so completely humorless and joyless in The Dark World so it was nice to see that characterization completely thrown out the door in the opening minute and him being really funny.  The entire cast was fantastic and it's always great to see the Hulk on screen.  Tessa Thompson makes an impressive debut in the Marvel Universe.  Unlike Dark World, Anthony Hopkins doesn't mail it in and Tom Hiddleston continues to be one of the most fun characters in the MCU.

Speaking of villains, Marvel went 3-for-3 with their villains this year with Cate Blanchett providing another strong one to the mix.  He's clearly having a ball with the character and makes her a lot of fun.  Also want to add that Jeff Goldblum was a ridiculous amount of fun as the Gamemaster so we get two good villains there.

Loved the stuff on Skaar even though it was basically a barebones version of Planet Hulk (I do hope we get a proper Planet Hulk movie one of these days).  I also enjoyed the Asgard plot a great deal.

[inmyeyes]

I laughed way too hard at this.

(Thor 4D has spoilers for the actual plot, so don't watch until after you're seen the movie!)

 

[Raja]

21 hours ago, Kel Varnsen said:

Well both are fiction one is just much older. And the MCU is slightly different as Thor is a real alien and the stories written about him are what humans guessed his story was 100's of years ago. I also kind of wonder if the Norse religion has become more popular in the MCU since Thor came to Earth and saved the world from his brother. 

I can't think of any MCU character thinking of the god status of Thor and Asgardians.  Probably because when he went public and was not just a rumor of a Roswell like story that another alien race was also there as foot soldiers for Loki. Now Agents of SHIELD did have folk effected by Asgardian tech as they searched it out after The Battle of New York

[mojoween]

18 hours ago, thuganomics85 said:

Hard to pick what was the funniest moment, but if I had to, it was probably Thor's story about Loki trying to kill him as a child.  The way Thor told it and Loki's smirk at the end just had me howling.

“And then he stabbed me.”  [smirk]

God Chris Hemsworth has charm in spades.  

I had not seen Doctor Strange so I was super disappointed that Benedict Cumberbatch sounded like...that.  They scrubbed his sexy, sexy voice!  He is the best when he sounds like Smaug/the Star Trek baddie.

I liked the funny parts but felt that they did overdo it, I mean not everyone has to have a quip every time.  Like when Cate was blathering on about herself and the guy says “who are you” and she says “ugh were you even listening.”  Less is more, writers.

I love that there was no romance.  

Chris and Idris and Tom are SO FINE.

I’m so not quick and at the beginning I was like there is no way Odin is going to be watching a play and eating grapes when he would be still mourning his wife.  Until Thor said it I didn't get that it was Loki.

It’s going to make so much money and it’s worth it, IMO.

Edited November 4, 2017 by mojoween

[NumberCruncher]

"Get help!!!" That was just a whole lot of fun though I have to say I'm surprised people are under the impression that humor is the only thing Thor: Ragnarok has going for it.  The overall Ragnarok story was quite heavy and even violent.  Yes, there's humor but there's also a handful of rather touching family moments sprinkled in.  The highlight of the Thor movies has always been the chemistry between Hemsworth and Hiddleston and that's probably at its very best here.  Cate Blanchett is amazing (and I daresay sexy) as Hela.  A lot of the reviews have rightly pointed her out as a highlight along with Tessa Thompson as Valkyrie, though I must say, the true scene stealer is Taika Waititi as Korg.  His matter-of-fact commentary about everything was a delight.  That's not to say it's any one actor's movie.  I felt that all the major players were given solid material and really maximized their screentime, unlike the earlier Thor movies where it sometimes felt like some of the actors were just there to collect a paycheck.  I think that's why this movie worked so well for me.  Everyone looked like they ENJOYING making it and you could feel that energy.  I may need to pay to see it again.

I do have one complaint--though it's a relatively minor one--in that Marvel tends to insert random characters in their movies who serve no real purpose to the story at hand.  That was especially evident here in the case of the superfluous Doctor Strange scenes which, had they been left out, wouldn't have changed the plot one bit.  All it would have taken is two lines of dialogue with Heimdall telling Thor where Odin was and we could have saved ourselves a 10-minute nothing burger.  It's clear that Strange was shoved in there simply so the audience doesn't forget he knows an Avenger and therefore can conveniently make an appearance later in the Infinity Wars.

[Raja]

4 hours ago, NumberCruncher said:

"I do have one complaint--though it's a relatively minor one--in that Marvel tends to insert random characters in their movies who serve no real purpose to the story at hand.  That was especially evident here in the case of the superfluous Doctor Strange scenes which, had they been left out, wouldn't have changed the plot one bit.  All it would have taken is two lines of dialogue with Heimdall telling Thor where Odin was and we could have saved ourselves a 10-minute nothing burger.  It's clear that Strange was shoved in there simply so the audience doesn't forget he knows an Avenger and therefore can conveniently make an appearance later in the Infinity Wars.

I just think the tone of the scene changed too much from

Spoiler

when it was in the Doctor Strange mid credits slot

There it felt more like Doctor Strange issuing a warning. In Ragnarok he was just playing with Thor as we have seen Loki do many times before.

[mojoween]

The Ragnarok fireface reminded me of a cartoon villain but I cannot put my finger on who.  I thought it was someone Jafar created but that’s not it.  It’s driving me bonkers.

[coppersin]

1 hour ago, mojoween said:

The Ragnarok fireface reminded me of a cartoon villain but I cannot put my finger on who.  I thought it was someone Jafar created but that’s not it.  It’s driving me bonkers.

The coloring is different, but he kinda reminds me of Chernabog from Fantasia, especially around the eyes.